as a photographer, that was the best description//analogy for focal lengths i've ever seen.

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Great video Mark. So great to see my city, Melbourne (!) pop up in your shots

Man.... you sure explain things well. I sent this video to my photography friends. Subscribed.... God bless!

that was the best explanation I’ve heard describing focal lengths with the window analogy! and I’ve seen many many videos on cameras and lenses. So, I immediately subscribed, great stuff!

Man the vein in your left arm is legit.

You have a talent explaining things. Thanks man.

Great review as always Mark. Thank you once again for showing images SOOC so we can properly appreciate the exact output of this lens. Also I applaud you for bwing honest about what you are (yet) not good at in your photography. I used to believe my strength was in landscapes but once I got to work with cameras instead of phones I quickly realized that was not the case haha.

9mm is extraordinary. I have the 10mm Voigtländer for e-mount. You can get very interresting pictures once you figured out, how to compose them. As you said, it probably should not be your first wide angle lens. Laowa produces some very interresting lenses. I own their shift lenses.

I learned more about photography lurking in your channel than in my university, thanks.

I got the 2.8 version for my Fujifilm. I love it. Supersharp when focus is nailed.

You're fast becoming my go-to guy for lens reviews, Mark!!! Great video!!! The only thing that might bring in more people to your excellent reviews, is putting the name of the lens somewhere in the description so it becomes a searchable term. Other than that... Keep up the good work!!!!

Great analogy explaining perspective.

I've used this lens to shoot dozens of vertoramas all over Europe; opera house, basilicas and cathedrals; the Romanian Anthaeneum in Bucharest, and I have nothing but the highest praise for it. It is always in my travel bag

Thanks for the review Mark, you explain things very well.

That's a great way to explain focal length. Will be helpful

Thank you for the video!

Loved your video it’s my first time here. Subscribed ✌️

Great video, thanks!

A BIG thanks from me! I've been looking for an extreme wide-angle for my Z. Indeed, I had never heard of this one, but I think it's my solution. I certainly expected to put more $ down for a lens like this, so double the thanks.

Based on this video I'm going to add this to my "save up for it" list. So thank you very much. Interested in having an extremely wide non-fisheye lens and this will do the trick. Wide angle is hard. Probably harder than telephoto. And that's why it's worth doing.

I'm thinking in getting the Laowa 9mm 2.8 ZD for my M6. Is this one (the one on this video) better than that one? because this one comes in RF and I have a R6. So, what would you do? I need a wide angle for my M6. Already have a 16mm for the R6. Both lenses look very attractive but I can only afford one

Mark thanks so much for this video. I really REALLY want to see someone through this onto some extension tubes and try some macro shots with this. Is this something you can try / do?

Know what's even better. It's also available for Fuji X mounts, which is just amazing itself. Finding aftermarket lenses for fuji is so hard to come by lol.

wong kar-wai used absurdly wide 6mm for his iconic films and they're visual gems.

Thanks a lot… when I am buying m mount and I am using an adapter then I guess I will lose field of view? What is the difference buying m mount + adapter for Fuji x to buying directly the Fuji x version? Please help 🙏

Hi Mark! Thank you for this review! My question is: using this lens on my M10, will i have focusing problems with rangefinder?

So informative mark ✍️💪

WOW This Lens is a beauty!

Suuuuper and thanks making me aware of this beauty

To use this on a Canon mirrorless (RF mount), one would have to use which adapter and which mount version of this lens?

Your lens reviews are bangers as the kids say. Amazing video again!!

Agreed, this is crazy. I own their 14mm rectangular, that's wide enough for me on fullframe. At least so far...

Hi, thanks for your review, and I agree, I had not heard about this lens. It's $600 on the website. My main concern1. absolutely very poor f rating (over 5) which means I can't use it at night or in interiors for wide angle; 2. I'm not clear from the review how this would work with the sony A6700 emount cameras. Thanks again, for alerting us :)

Nice review! How is video shooting with this lens?

Looks like a great lens to add to the kit...if not for the 5.6f :( I shoot a lot in interiors and mostly short films so this is normally a bit too dark and deep depth of field, I guess this may work great for retailing or some outdoors travel vids

Beautiful lens for Skateboard Photography.

Is a version for Nikon F Mount available?

In my search I came across to f:2.8 version, have you tested that, is it similar to the f:5.6 ?

I love that you are a photography channel and use a Lauten Audio microphone. Nice going.

Hello, thank you for your reviews! I want to reproduce your setup. Can you please advise why have you decided to switch from Sennheiser MKH50 to Lauten Audio LS-208? I want to buy MKH50 or MKE600 but want to understand your decision :)

Your analogy to explain how Milimeters work is similar to mine, but i use a sheet of paper with a cutoff the size of a given sensor, and ask the person to place their eye X millimeters away from the window made in the sheet of paper, so a 250mm lens means they will hold the paper 25cm away from their eye, perceiving very little width and height but ofc, imagine that small frame but big.

Can you mount it and did you try it on a Canaon M50?

This lens wasn’t even on my radar. Now, it’s in the queue after the Brightin f0.95 50mm for Sony, which I found through another of your videos.

great explanation re the window and looking out

I fully agree: I have the lens, and I don't use panorama stitching software with all its ghosting problems anymore. And it makes fun too when walking in a city or in nature with this lens only. I got some incredible shots in Cordoba in the Mezquita or on the gorgeous and empty beaches of the Algarve in winter during storm

What is the exact name of leica adapter you had in recording?

Compelling review. Considering wider field of view and potentially more light and dark areas of the image, what metering mode would be best? Am thinking center weighted or spot might not be optimal.

A lot of people associate fisheye lenses with distortion, but I'm personally more annoyed by the stretched-out corners of ultra-wide rectilinear lenses. It's just downright nasty esp when there are human subjects near the corners. At least with fisheye lenses that have stereographic projection, people can still have respectable proportions regardless of where you have them in the frame (making them superior for group shots).

I bought this lens for my Sony camera when it first came out and paid full price for it...and it was worth it. At the price it is going for now, it's an absolute steal! Another great review Mark!

I'm interested in this lens. For landscapes, I would use focus stacking.

Love the pics of my hometown💪

more important than millimeter is the angle. with the laowa 9mm f5.6 we get 135°. with the laowa 10-18mm f4.5-5.6 we get 130° with the option to zoom in to 102°. at the low end the wide perspective seem to be pretty close to eachother 130...135°. both are built with 14 elements in 10 groups. i don't know anything about the optical quality... if almost the same i prefer the zoom. a comparision would be interesting. i'm using the sigma 16-28mm which is 107° with the opzion to zoom in to 76°

ThankYou for Showing this 9mm lens Boston Massachusetts

Does it work on Fuji's Xmount?

Nice review, but please mention the name of the lens manufacturer also when referring to the lens.

that's a real nice lens, I'll add it to my wish list 😁

Is this a good lens for 360 photography on a canon EOS RP? Thanks.

Could panoramic mode accomplish the same wide vision…if the subjects don’t move?

I've the 7.5 mf3 version. Nice lens 📷👍

I know you have reviewed the Brightin Star lenses before, how does this lens compare to the Brightin Star 9mm f5.6 ?

awesome, all these years, i now randomly and finally understand what the "_mm" simply means LOL thank you

9 mm looks super interesting but f5.6 hurts a lot. I'm considering their 12 mm f2.8 instead.

I too prefer the M mount, but those manufacturers could offer replacement mount rings and solve those issues.

Yeah you just said the exact truth why ultra-wide lenses shines! I always find myself struggling with the exact "I can't reproduce what I see" problem in the early days. Then you heard all those saying "35mm" is the most similar to what you see, or "50mm" gives you the most similar perspective of human eyes. Then you take those pictures home, and found out that none of that represents what you SEE or FEEL at the moment! And you feel confused! Our brain is a huge post-processing machine, the human eye optics may give you a similar FOV (field of view) of 35mm, and a "distortion free" perspective similar to 50mm (no pancake face or big nose like a GoPro), but when all of those comes into your brain, what you actually "SEE" is a post-processed image -- possibly stacked or concatenated, with a huge FOV of about 175 degree, no "distortion" (we define what we see as "no-distortion" baseline), and has a dynamic range of much more than 20 stops.That's why HDR photos when done right it "feels" like that's the "actual" lighting of the scene, but in fact everything is compressed and far from what the real light intensity is. As a shooter in the early days I had some confusion about "what's right". But later on I guess maybe that's just my own "style" emerged, I always try to "recreate" the moment when I took that photo. I defined myself as a "CONTEXT portrait shooter" or "CONTEXT event shooter". I took that as my own standard to guide me through. That includes involving the surroundings, so I know when and where, just like you said in this video. This then technically translates into opt for ultra-wide lens and use smaller apertures like F10 or F8 on a full frame. And taking full advantage of the in-camera DRO (thanks sony! for this to work you have to use JPEG or RAW+JPEG) to "correct" or "recreate" the lighting to match what you actually "see" in your brain. Or do the same thing on RAW to match what's in your memory. I'm no "GIG" shooter just like most of us here. You get quickly bored about the F2.8 70mm big face with a completely blurry background people called "bokeh". You don't go for a dedicated PRO project with all the equipment to one place, do nothing but photography, wait a whole day to just "shoot". That's not the actual situation most people find themselves in. However sadly the voice of photography world is dominated by GIG shooters and PROs, the ultra-wide lens like this seldom make a significant use to them. You don't need an ultra-wide to shoot a wedding. When PROs are in the mountains to shoot for the magazines, they either opt for the better performance lenses because the target usually don't involve such wide angle, or just do a manual panaroma when they need the wide view -- which is sensible, because in this way you can have the best possible image quality, that's what I will do if I have to shoot some mountains for magazine covers. In this case the distortion of ultra-wide becomes a negative thing that makes manual panaroma hard if not impossible at all. Most importantly it's not necessary, you have to do the manual stitching, it doesn't matter it's 3 or 5 photos, the workload is the same. Now a third voice of those is the KZfaqrs and Vlogers, unfortunately the lack of AF becomes a deal breaker for almost everybody. You just can't vlog or do any video if you don't have a crew to "pull the focus". You have the hack options like to use a DJI Ronin gimbal with lidar and focus wheel to achieve AF on any MF lens... However how many would actually go this far... Now you see a wave of newer lenses towards these people get made however this particular lens or any lens without AF just won't make it to the list. Even though the 9mm no fisheye is perfect for this job. If you can get touch with the manufacturers, see if they can make an AF version, or tweak something similar to the lidar solutions you found on the DJIs. At 9mm the focus is not critical but still a thing I guess. You don't need super accurate, it will do if it's just ballpark accurate. This the only thing this lens lacks. If it has AF, it will just blow.

would this work well for Milky Way long exposure photos?

Excellent Mark. We only shoot for Virtual Tours and typically use a 12-4mm lens. Do you believe this would be appropriate for shooting on a Pano Head?

There is the sigma 8-16 .. rectilinear…. It’s amazing 🎉

How would you compare this to their 9mm f/2.8 Zero-D lens?

I love your channel and your reviews, but this one is absolutely dope! What a camera hack. I've been looking for a more universal type of mount that's easy to adapt to others and I had sort of thought Canon EF might be it... But no you have definitely nailed it with the M or L mount....whatever one it is 😂 thanks! (Actually when looking for that adapter on Amazon it shows it as L/M mount adapter, so you were both right).😊

I am curious how this would work for astrophotography. I have all the Nikon lenses except a good wide angle prime. I want to do some astro shots but love the native Nikon glass. Willing to pay more for better quality. Nikon for me.

NGV Melbourne! Nice!

Good for photography, but for video it's only good for static shots. Otherwise you'll give people a headache because when you pan a rectilinear lens, the sides move much faster than the middle.

Hi Mark, Have you reviewed the Zero-D version?

Interesting (for me)…. The wrap around perception you mention is constructed in the brain in a manner similar to constructing 3d perception. The brain amalgamates the images collected from glancing around into a a combined gestalt perception of reality…. A sense of place

This was excellent

What about Arri 8R 8mm rectified ? It s even wider than the 9....

Any chance these are ever going to be available for Canon EF?

I've had the Voitländer 10mm f5.6 for Sony FE which goes to 130° hyper-wide for many years now. This Laowa goes to 135° which is a visible difference, but not such a large difference, that they are very similar in terms of advantages and difficulties. Done well, these lenses make fabulous images, but it is equally frustrating when neither sky nor foreground are exciting. This Laowa seems to be sharper in the far corners, but the Voigtländer is much better with flare. This is important to me because with such a wide angle, it is common to get the sun in the frame. It always amazes me when I hear people say that 24mm is too wide for them, but for those of us who love going wide, these hyper-wides are brilliant. I remember being in Arches National Park in Utah with a Canon 11-24mm f4 (which goes to 122°) and wishing I had the Sony and the 10mm with me because there was one shot where I couldn't get the entire rock formation into the frame. The Voigt or this Laowa would have been ideal on that day.

Wow, 9mm is super wide! Cool video!

I own Sony a6xxx series cameras. These area APS-C (cropped frame) and I have a great time taking pictures using reduced size-and-weight equipment. You didn't explicitly say it until the end of the video, but this lens accommodates a full-frame-capable camera. As such, I'd be wasting my money and the *entire purpose* of owning this lens, if I put it on my e-mount, crop frame camera. Please affirm or correct me. Thank you.

I have Fiji x mount. Can one get an adapter for this lens?

isn't the laowa c-dreamer 7.5mm f2.0 also rectilinear?

If they're dropping the price that much they're either clearing inventory because it's being discontinued or there is a newer model coming out soon.

I’ve got the Voigtlander 10mm. It works quite well and is easy to crop in. It’s made in Japan by Cosina.

Full frame gopro fov yay!

is this over the top for real estate videos?

rectal linear got a ring to it

I'm equally surprised about the lack of noise people are making about it. If I could have afforded it when it came out, I would've bought it in a heartbeat.

Wow an amazing lens. At 9mm that means the focal center of the lens is outside the lens/ inside the camera! The flange to sensor distance of the Z cameras is 16mm (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flange_focal_distance), unless they are doing something funky here with the optical center. 🤣

that's how other brands should do . I just bought some Ttartisans lenses for Fuji and cannot use them on my Sony camera. What a shame.

Can you adapt it to RF???

It’s not Full Frame that may have to do with the lower enthusiasm. I LOVE their FF 12mm which I own.

Why not make a wide angle sensor? I mean.... Hemi sensor. Granted, this makes all lenses proprietary to such a sensor but it could be a really neat idea. At least the lenses won't need to be 14 elements but .... probably a minimum of 2.

If i can grab one under 500 gbp ill bite. I love wide angles for exaggerating the look of venues / halls.

There’s a bunch of Laowa 9mm lenses showing on the Amazon links. What is the name of this one? Well maybe not a bunch

Fuji has an 8mm lens, but it's for APS-C.

I have the 6mm Laowa Lens on my M43 Panasonic GH5 and if you think that a 9mm lens is great, get yourself the 6mm Laowa Lens and have some real fun. Then do a review of that Lens, now that is what I call WIDE !

Big fan of the 9mm.

thought the Sony 12mm was wide :P