The Riddle of Ancient Sparta: Unwrapping an Enigma - Professor Paul Cartledge

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Gresham College

Gresham College

6 жыл бұрын

Ancient Sparta has been handed down in a tradition radically conflicted and confused by rival political and social ideologies. A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma, one might say. This Spartan tradition is still alive and lively today.
This lecture seeks to shed light rather than heat, by assessing just how odd (different, exceptional, peculiar) Sparta really might have been.
The transcript and downloadable versions of the lecture are available from the Gresham College website: www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-an...
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@Rog5446
@Rog5446 6 жыл бұрын
I am a consumate youtube surfer, always on the lookout for educational improvement. Sometimes I get lucky and find something that is not just educational, but thoroughly entertaining, but sadly my searches are mostly fruitless. I'm happy to say that this was well worth sifting through the chaff to get to the wheat with the additional bonus of being highly entertaining.
@mrdeurknopp
@mrdeurknopp 4 жыл бұрын
Listen to the In Our Time podcast by BBC, he's a regular speaker whenever they talk about the Ancient Greeks
@hmax1591
@hmax1591 4 жыл бұрын
Well spoken. I agree. How appropriated your comment a year ago and is still more true today during the pandemic.
@jgunther3398
@jgunther3398 3 жыл бұрын
he makes three gratuitous political digs at the u.s. in the first half hour. he's leftist first, and historian second. it's like an engineer ignoring what he knows and saying i'll just attach this thing here and that thing over there...
@GabrielSoares-ju9yq
@GabrielSoares-ju9yq 3 жыл бұрын
@@jgunther3398 by your comment i assume you enjoyed the lecture.
@TheHalflingLad
@TheHalflingLad 3 жыл бұрын
@@jgunther3398 He's just throwing semi-relevant jokes into his lecture to retain the attention of his audience. Completely standard for teachers and public speakers. His jokes aren't counterfactual, either. Maybe a little mean, but so what? Doesn't devalue the research, regardless of someone's bruised feelings.
@jimmypellas5937
@jimmypellas5937 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation from someone who seems passionate about Ancient Greece and also knowledgeable on Modern Greece
@georgenorris2657
@georgenorris2657 3 жыл бұрын
He hardly referred to notes. This guy really knows his stuff. Such was his delivery that I could happily have listened to him all evening!
@georgenorris2657
@georgenorris2657 2 жыл бұрын
@Hoa Tattis Yes but difficult in a lecture hall.
@joek600
@joek600 2 жыл бұрын
@Hoa Tattis lets not hold against Paul Cartledge the fact that he is not a milf
@flashcar60
@flashcar60 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite Spartan exclamation at Thermopylae is this. Upon hearing Xerxes's boast that his archers would make the sky dark with arrows, Leonidas responded: "We'll fight in the dark then."
@dorianphilotheates3769
@dorianphilotheates3769 3 жыл бұрын
Sam Samuels - “...in the shade...”.
@flashcar60
@flashcar60 3 жыл бұрын
@@dorianphilotheates3769 Oh yeah; looks like I had a brain-freeze. Thanks
@dorianphilotheates3769
@dorianphilotheates3769 3 жыл бұрын
Sam Samuels - 🙂
@bigalsnow8199
@bigalsnow8199 2 жыл бұрын
Same thing guys. Lighten up.
@AlexandrosPanagio
@AlexandrosPanagio Жыл бұрын
Actually it was DIENIEKES
@peterward5538
@peterward5538 2 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant man, excellent video. I thoroughly enjoyed this.
@raphaelandrews3617
@raphaelandrews3617 2 жыл бұрын
thank you to prof Paul Cartledge for a great presentation about Spartan history..
@FIRSTKAPOKMAN
@FIRSTKAPOKMAN 6 жыл бұрын
Great lecturer and an excellent lecture. Much obliged.
@stevendern2543
@stevendern2543 3 жыл бұрын
I was told I was Laconic once. I took it as a compliment. Teacher said it wasn't a compliment. It was.
@SuperMookles
@SuperMookles 3 жыл бұрын
You're talking too much.
@stevendern2543
@stevendern2543 3 жыл бұрын
.......agreed.
@Apple_Teck
@Apple_Teck 2 жыл бұрын
“If…”
@danalaniz7314
@danalaniz7314 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I've read a lot about the Peloponnesian War but I learned so much from this excellent presentation!
@gatesofhades534
@gatesofhades534 5 жыл бұрын
Read the sources: Plutarch, Herodotus, Xenophon.
@stephensinclair3771
@stephensinclair3771 3 жыл бұрын
Can't remember the name of the historian but he wrote something which I have always found very interesting in regards to the Spartans (words to this effect) "....I can't SEE these people. I can read ancient Greek and I've read all the sources. But. I can't visualise, can't imagine these people. I envisage a cross between various people's....."
@jimmcgettigan4826
@jimmcgettigan4826 2 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed this presentation interlaced with the rare dry humor.
@chrisball3778
@chrisball3778 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen the shield at 51:46 in the Agora museum in Athens. Rather than one of the captives, I like to imagine its the shield of Brasidas, a Spartan general, who according to Thucydides, dropped his shield when he fell, severely wounded during the battle. He was carried back to a ship, recovered and went on to have a ridiculously storied military career during the Peloponnesian War, roving around the place liberating cities that had been conquered by the Athenians. There's no actual evidence it's his shield, but it's not completely impossible, so it's a fun daydream.
@asatru_8888
@asatru_8888 2 жыл бұрын
You’ve played too much AC odyssey
@chrisgrech7992
@chrisgrech7992 10 ай бұрын
That shield belonged to Perioikoi not a spartiate therefore could not be of Brasidas.
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 4 жыл бұрын
An enjoyable lecture. More on the Helots will be interesting.
@aragorn1780
@aragorn1780 2 жыл бұрын
"I went to Oxford for my doctorate... We all make mistakes!" I died 😂😂😂😂
@michaelmcilrath9466
@michaelmcilrath9466 2 жыл бұрын
Love this little bit of sardonic cynicism.
@Erkynar
@Erkynar 6 жыл бұрын
Great talk. Thank you!
@kaarlimakela3413
@kaarlimakela3413 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the academic value in the Gresham presentations ... and just as great to me is the very good strong volume, enough to overcome the most annoying weakness of this decade old laptop. :)
@99IronDuke
@99IronDuke 4 жыл бұрын
Churchill had taken that phrase from Lord Palmerston who used it in connection with the Schleswig Holstein, then part of Denmark.
@2adamast
@2adamast 3 жыл бұрын
While he took the Gulags to the empire
@pininfarinarossa8112
@pininfarinarossa8112 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I live in Schleswig Holstein-no riddle, no mystery, no enigma so far!
@natmanprime4295
@natmanprime4295 2 жыл бұрын
Fancy meeting you here! Lol
@pininfarinarossa8112
@pininfarinarossa8112 2 жыл бұрын
@@natmanprime4295 🤯 what do you mean? Do U live in Schleswig Holstein/ Germany as well?
@natmanprime4295
@natmanprime4295 2 жыл бұрын
@@pininfarinarossa8112 no I was talking to Duke
@danielleboyd3070
@danielleboyd3070 Жыл бұрын
Such a wonderful presentation! Thank you.
@cristianespinal9917
@cristianespinal9917 2 жыл бұрын
Nice presentation. A lot of basic info I'd heard before, but the bits on the geography of the southern Peloponnese, boar hunting excusing a Spartan from the mess, and on Menelaus' palace were new to me and very interesting.
@tommacdonald6295
@tommacdonald6295 2 жыл бұрын
77⁷⁹>⁰
@75dobs
@75dobs 2 жыл бұрын
@@tommacdonald6295 Can you explain? Please.....
@mauriciopalacio6713
@mauriciopalacio6713 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t think 🤔 I would sit through the entire lecture... But I did, very interesting. Thanks.
@peterpadazopoulos2954
@peterpadazopoulos2954 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your lecture
@HeIsNakedLunch
@HeIsNakedLunch 2 жыл бұрын
I was definitely listening. Thank you!
@nathanroberson
@nathanroberson 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I grew up in East Lansing Mi. Home of Michigan State University their mascot is the Spartans.
@relefunt
@relefunt 5 жыл бұрын
Little known fact: Dr Cartledge’s father sculpted the famous ceramic “Sparty” statue on the campus of Michigan State.
@johnmesser522
@johnmesser522 2 жыл бұрын
The Gift of Communication... great presentation..
@Diwana71
@Diwana71 2 жыл бұрын
A great lecture and talk.
@segurosincero4057
@segurosincero4057 2 жыл бұрын
Splendid talk. Nicely done.
@terencemagee
@terencemagee 5 жыл бұрын
Great lecture, lively and explained well. The Spartans inspired me to write a story ´Spartan School´of many episodes some years ago for a girls´comic ´Tammy´and it was very popular. The Spartans have always fascinated us.
@jtveg
@jtveg 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏼
@uncatila
@uncatila 3 жыл бұрын
I went to the little Museum in Charillon Sur Sein. I was told that it was a copy. Wow. I didn't know it was greek.
@JohnnyBlaze5100
@JohnnyBlaze5100 11 ай бұрын
Excellent Lecture, thank you very much indeed!
@JimiHendrix998
@JimiHendrix998 2 жыл бұрын
Great lecture. Thank you.
@PPanossss
@PPanossss 4 жыл бұрын
There are many examples in Iliad ,where the heroes fought on moving chariots , throwing spears and arrows and other ,where the chariots where used as taxis.Mainly to transport a character fast to a duel with a significant enemy
@bigalsnow8199
@bigalsnow8199 2 жыл бұрын
@Hoa Tattis your point?
@branislavtrninic4505
@branislavtrninic4505 2 жыл бұрын
Was that all over the shop or it's only me?
@coreyjblakey
@coreyjblakey 3 ай бұрын
This the most AI sounding title I have ever seen that is 100% not AI, well done, love the channel
@TheOrigamiPeople
@TheOrigamiPeople 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@johnboro64
@johnboro64 3 жыл бұрын
Without any real knowledge, I’m fascinated by your talk, your voice makes whatever you say interesting and I thank you.
@bigdogpete43
@bigdogpete43 5 жыл бұрын
The demand and the answer will always be the same.
@HandmadeDarcy
@HandmadeDarcy Жыл бұрын
Who were the two who survived Thermopylae? Surely we have some idea, no? Thoroughly enjoying the Gresham channel and the rabbit-holes it sets me down! 😆🤪
@neomagneto84
@neomagneto84 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@righteousred723
@righteousred723 3 жыл бұрын
8:05 rent free
@christopherbowen2547
@christopherbowen2547 2 жыл бұрын
Academic roundabout ultimately adding not much to our understanding of Sparta. ‘Then we’ll fight in the dark’ is the best quote he didn’t mention.
@zodinthara7925
@zodinthara7925 2 жыл бұрын
Wasnt it '.. in the shade'?
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl 2 жыл бұрын
That is a myth
@Laocoon283
@Laocoon283 Жыл бұрын
It's literally ancient history why would you be expecting some kind of new take on it? Lol
@AlexandrosPanagio
@AlexandrosPanagio Жыл бұрын
In the shade - DIENIKES
@ch355_
@ch355_ 2 жыл бұрын
an interesting talk. also a masterclass in digressions.
@jessesquer4204
@jessesquer4204 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent lecture and presentation. Full of detailed information and yet easy for the audience to follow. Brilliant and I fully enjoyed it.
@lb_reflections
@lb_reflections 6 жыл бұрын
Ancient Greece is utterly NOT my thing..... ....but I sat through this from start to finish. Interesting!!
@fotiskosmos3009
@fotiskosmos3009 2 жыл бұрын
Now you know the truth, what doesn't exist in your country... If it's not your thing, why have you seen it? so it's interesting... your word shows you like it but your ego as a muslim doesn't... never mind... get well soon with the story beautiful greek dreams.
@TheBaronOfBromley
@TheBaronOfBromley 3 жыл бұрын
nice talk
@chrisbricky7331
@chrisbricky7331 2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation, thank you for sharing this. Chris
@dewayneweaver5782
@dewayneweaver5782 3 жыл бұрын
Second Amendment A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a FREE STATE, the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
@lorrainemoynehan6791
@lorrainemoynehan6791 2 жыл бұрын
seriously mate? these guys were fascists
@3LGAutodetail
@3LGAutodetail 2 жыл бұрын
Yep he sort of pick And chose what words and phrases he would use from the second ammendment.
@bigalsnow8199
@bigalsnow8199 2 жыл бұрын
" Come and get them"
@aaronthompson192
@aaronthompson192 2 жыл бұрын
@@lorrainemoynehan6791 And yet fascists/authoritarians confiscate private arms when they come to power.
@zodinthara7925
@zodinthara7925 2 жыл бұрын
India is a free state, the largest democracy.we dont need private arms nor militia.
@joshua3171
@joshua3171 5 жыл бұрын
11:20 looks like an Image of Orion the beard on the older man pharaonic
@joshua3171
@joshua3171 5 жыл бұрын
the imanage of the hunter in this case the bow being the rear of the animal??
@fusion451
@fusion451 2 жыл бұрын
How did Greek Simonides poems Rhyme in English ie "Go tell the Spartans, stranger passing by, that here, obedient to their laws, we lie."?
@joek600
@joek600 2 жыл бұрын
Actually in ancient Greek it does not rhyme, but the translation is accurate, its a happy accident.
@ioannisfugazi6952
@ioannisfugazi6952 2 жыл бұрын
This was an absolute joy. Very gifted speaker and I look forward to reading some of his work. Thank you for this upload☺
@kangaxx4396
@kangaxx4396 3 жыл бұрын
Who is that Rasha he keeps talking about?
@mma4179
@mma4179 5 жыл бұрын
A movie needs to be made about all this.
@williamneumyer7147
@williamneumyer7147 3 жыл бұрын
I very much enjoyed Professor Cartledge's lecture on this always fascinating topic. And, indeed, very many of us in the United States feel that an armed citizenry as a counterweight to political tyranny has not lost its relevance.
@amazinggrace5692
@amazinggrace5692 2 жыл бұрын
I’m the benefit of your free educational lectures and how lucky I am. But no one benefits from watching the speaker when a slide is up, especially if the speaker is pointing to something. My eyes are no young and even on full screen I cannot read the names on a map if the screen shows half with speaker in it. I’m sure this speaker notably would. Ot care to have his image shown if his material cannot fully be appreciated because the slide image is so small. I beg all the academic institutions (and art galleries, etc) who offer these wonderful lectures to p,ease have the camera show the slide full screen, even if only when the lecturer is referring or pointing to it. Please! Thanks. 💕🐝
@user-cs6yd8dc8d
@user-cs6yd8dc8d 2 жыл бұрын
Εφιάλτης-Efialtis in Greek word have also other meaning... nightmare !
@kilowhiskeyalpha6078
@kilowhiskeyalpha6078 2 жыл бұрын
The tuna appearing on the funerary urn relates to the speed with which they are renowned this characteristic representing the hunters superior ability, the bird also depicting agility.Oversized male genitalia symbolises virility, that capability to Foster and propogate an enduring genetic line.
@brodeyheil5194
@brodeyheil5194 2 жыл бұрын
my neck hurt watching his neck sit like that for so long
@rattrayc
@rattrayc 3 жыл бұрын
TIL the leonidas statue is amish. the war on mustaches goes back 2500 years
@The30Free
@The30Free 4 жыл бұрын
Molon labe the most gangster responses in history 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷 long live greece ✊🏼
@donfox1036
@donfox1036 5 жыл бұрын
Can’t help remembering the Merican hero Hoplite Cassidy.
@zodinthara7925
@zodinthara7925 2 жыл бұрын
Aint it Hopalong Cassidy?
@gpan62
@gpan62 3 жыл бұрын
Re the chalice painting...it could be a father and son. New evidence has been found of a Spartan father coaching his son in wrestling and accompanying his son to tournaments. This was at a lecture I attended. The lecturer also pointed out that what we know is largely from sparta's rivals. He also mentioned a spartan king born with a clubbed foot. Hmmm infanticide? They must have missed that one.
@varanid9
@varanid9 2 жыл бұрын
Just what I always thought. I wonder when they stopped practicing infanticide? Perhaps by the end of the "Peloponnesian War"?
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl 2 жыл бұрын
@@varanid9 you do realize that even Aristotle called for infanticide
@varanid9
@varanid9 2 жыл бұрын
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl but was it still a regular practice by then?
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl 2 жыл бұрын
@@varanid9 yes it did happen how much we are not sure
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl 2 жыл бұрын
@@varanid9 what people did not want to know is that Aristotle was a terrible person even by standards of that time
@stephenlight647
@stephenlight647 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent and entertaining lecture. Doesn’t really solve the riddle of Sparta, but the Professor probably did not write the thumbnail!
@Grenadier311
@Grenadier311 Жыл бұрын
You don't need to be an extreme capitalist or libertarian to empirically note the deprivation of freedom and agency in Russia or be leery of global implications following the Soviet takeover.
@jamiescott1080
@jamiescott1080 2 ай бұрын
Or indeed in countries which operate uncontrolled and unrestricted capitalism.
@johnbeardshall2898
@johnbeardshall2898 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I see a English documentary I can't help but thinking of montypython
@Laocoon283
@Laocoon283 Жыл бұрын
Life of brian still holds up
@mattrommel9521
@mattrommel9521 3 жыл бұрын
The type of Englishman who talks in a whiny voice about getting his doctorate at Oxford is absolutely my cup of tea
@Laocoon283
@Laocoon283 Жыл бұрын
Lol i cant not hear karl pilkington when I think of whiny brits
@rogerlynch5279
@rogerlynch5279 2 жыл бұрын
0:50 That is right It is also why the reasons for the Peleponaian War had been so much anayst by Historians to find ways to defuse the threat of an Antomic Bomb attack in the Cold War.
@pininfarinarossa8112
@pininfarinarossa8112 2 жыл бұрын
Very funny!❤
@fotiskosmos3009
@fotiskosmos3009 2 жыл бұрын
did you look in the mirror?
@LivingLaconian
@LivingLaconian Ай бұрын
Enlightening presentation. I have a lot of respect for Professor Cartledge, but he doesn’t seem to understand that without the individual’s right to bear arms we wouldn’t have had the minutemen militias necessary to send the British back across the pond
@elizabethjohnson7677
@elizabethjohnson7677 6 жыл бұрын
Well, I should try to say something erudite, but guess I shall reveal my true female/helot nature: "Awesome, Dude!"
@rtk5891
@rtk5891 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Elizabeth Johnson, don't sell yourself short, please say something erudite. This is the age of the Woman after all.
@donfox1036
@donfox1036 5 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Johnson, better a helotbthan a hellraiser.
@donfox1036
@donfox1036 5 жыл бұрын
Of course as the speaker mentioned, at least at one point in time, even the helots became hellraisers.
@katherineprongos3929
@katherineprongos3929 4 жыл бұрын
My family derives from actual helots, so tread lightly please!
@elizabethjohnson7677
@elizabethjohnson7677 4 жыл бұрын
RTK 58 just being silly.
@michellaboureur7651
@michellaboureur7651 2 жыл бұрын
Anecdotically interesting, doesn’t measure up to its title however. Looks like it was tailor-made for the american lecture circuit. Talking of dispersion (diaspora)… But it doesn’t detract from the speaker’s talent and competence.
@georgekosko5124
@georgekosko5124 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, what he said about the ancient Greek diaspora is correct. There were however some other small mistakes which I didn't expect a professor to make
@parsnip82
@parsnip82 2 жыл бұрын
My sentiment exactly!
@deckiedeckie
@deckiedeckie 2 жыл бұрын
What college is that?......any of the students there can find Sparta on a map?
@richardthelionheart5594
@richardthelionheart5594 2 жыл бұрын
Are you sure that isn't Trojan headgear ??? Some alleged "university" "U"SC seems convinced that is Trojan headgear.
@c.a.willie434
@c.a.willie434 3 жыл бұрын
As a historian it might interest you to know that at the time of the writing of the US constitution, all men were considered members of the militia. The idea of a militia being a specific group was not codified in the US until 1903. Thus at the time of writing, the distinction of being an official member of a militia was irrelevant, making the right to private ownership of arms universal among all American households. US laws are not allowed to curtail rights granted by the constitution without formal amendment, thus the militia act of 1903 has no effect in the universality of the right, even if congress formally changed the definition of militia.
@julianmarsh1378
@julianmarsh1378 2 жыл бұрын
All men were not considered members of the militia; they were potentially part of the militia...at any rate, we no longer have state sponsored or community sponsored militias; we have a national guard. There was an effort by Congress during the administration of John Adams, to establish a law that all males between a certain age had to own a firearm...which John Adams endorsed...but though passed it was never enforced.
@egilskallagrimsson2941
@egilskallagrimsson2941 Жыл бұрын
They still are, and it might be helpful for this guy to learn what a clause is.
@benquinney2
@benquinney2 3 жыл бұрын
Chain of command
@alexp.2897
@alexp.2897 3 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to hear a lecture on the class system in present day England. From what I read on the matter, elite universities in UK, are deliberately built in poor regions; so that the upcoming elite class feel like it as well as they react to their surroundings. And the surroundings are usually poor underclass working people who have zero chance to enter those elite schools.
@doriangrayapologist
@doriangrayapologist 2 жыл бұрын
my counselor: where do you see yourself in ten years’ time? me: a wimpy, liberal intellectual
@taylorbullard2118
@taylorbullard2118 2 жыл бұрын
There's worse things to be....a Maga dipstick for example.
@benquinney2
@benquinney2 3 жыл бұрын
Bismarck Richelieu Yamato
@constantindumitrescu593
@constantindumitrescu593 2 жыл бұрын
A little correction just to clarify those mirages. They are not unreal but quite vary basic facts of optics. The stick in the water appears to be bent at a certain point and that point is on the surface of the water in the glass. That happens because of the refraction of the light beams through which we see the portion imersed in water. Those light beams have to cross a few boundaries of materials with different densities: water, glass and air as oppose to the light beams coming from the unimersed portion of the stick which travel to our eyes only through air. The second mirage is a phenomenon of interference. A light beam can be seen as a line of photons vibrating in random directions in a plane normal to the light beam. At certain angles of incidence, the reflected beams contain only some of the photons, the rest being absorbed by the reflection suface because they vibrated in directions not parallel to the reflection surface. So, there are no mirages here, just optics.
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 2 жыл бұрын
Natural Choice substance
@theoveskoukis466
@theoveskoukis466 3 жыл бұрын
The word nightmare in modern Greek is "efialtis" (ΕΦΙΑΛΤΗΣ) which is the name of the man who betrayed Leonidas and his 300 men in Thermopylae. His treason was never forgotten
@AbuHajarAlBugatti
@AbuHajarAlBugatti 2 жыл бұрын
They were dumb anyway leaving a entire pass unguarded that scouts wouldve found anyway sooner or later
@joek600
@joek600 2 жыл бұрын
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti it was guarded by the Phoceans, they were forced to retreat onto a hill when they faced the much larger persian force. But the persians ignored them and bypassed them. You had google with a gazillion sources at your fingertips, before making this comment. Now who is dumb?
@AbuHajarAlBugatti
@AbuHajarAlBugatti 2 жыл бұрын
@@joek600 No defense = unguarded. But yes, keep playing smartass. While you at it tell me a recent example of how the ANA "defended" kabul
@AJZulu
@AJZulu 2 жыл бұрын
Remember his name. Remember his shame shall be remembered forever.
@garyoak317
@garyoak317 2 жыл бұрын
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti Quiet 💩
@johnmclean8167
@johnmclean8167 2 жыл бұрын
I got through 30 minutes of this posh windbaggery and didn't learn anything I didn't know from my grade 12 history class 25 years ago. This "chap" could learn a bit from laconic speech
@gregorysmith2379
@gregorysmith2379 2 жыл бұрын
It may be that you are more interested in class warfare. I can't say that I blame you. You could just try to improve your accent.
@andrebarbosa224
@andrebarbosa224 3 жыл бұрын
what a tortured analogy between the soviet experiment and ancient Sparta
@Laocoon283
@Laocoon283 Жыл бұрын
It's funny cause I recently starting watching some videos on Sparta and the thing I kept thinking of was man this really reminds me of 1984
@lewisticknor
@lewisticknor 2 жыл бұрын
High velocity rifles....LOL...not sure if that is a boar either, but anyway
@davidedbrooke9324
@davidedbrooke9324 2 жыл бұрын
Socrates an Athenian hated democracy as it was so perfidious.
@myparceltape1169
@myparceltape1169 10 ай бұрын
Scottish roads have produced lakes of imaginary water. You prove it by listening to the engine note. Slightly off load going into it and on load again coming up but no water sound.
@Hugh_Morris
@Hugh_Morris 2 жыл бұрын
I might be chattin nonsense but this guy speaks like an English Werner Herzog
@wernerretief4569
@wernerretief4569 2 жыл бұрын
Most entertaining.
@fotiskosmos3009
@fotiskosmos3009 2 жыл бұрын
Oreos o Professor-os
@gurglejug627
@gurglejug627 2 жыл бұрын
Another example of a professor/well educated person talking nonsense due to lack of actual experience. Wild boars are hunted Europe wide, and traditionally in various ways, often to provide 'sport' with associated risk, but for meat hunting it is (was) mainly with traps, or with a bow. One clean shot to the heart and the animal will be down in seconds and not pose a danger, and this is done with the hunter's skill in getting close to the animal in order to get a short range (and thus more definite) shot in, usually, and sometimes with dogs to distract the animal, strategically or tactically.
@greg0879
@greg0879 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t put too much stock in what Cartledge says. In another lecture he makes the disastrous error of claiming Athens lost the battles of Pylos/Sphacteria to the Spartans. At the risk of sounding ageist, at some point these old scholars need to exit the lecture circuit while they still have the mental capacity to get the basic facts correct. It’s saddening to see scholars beclown themselves at the twilight of their careers.
@illuminatisos
@illuminatisos 4 жыл бұрын
Women in Sparta had more freedoms then the women in Anthens. This is a fact. Women were treated terribly in Anthens.
@bilbildautaj5418
@bilbildautaj5418 4 жыл бұрын
illuminatisos It's because Spartans were illyrians.Women enjoyed freedom in illyrian tribes as well as among etruscans.Some ancient greek and roman authors considered illyrian and etruscan women as too libertine and imoral.
@TheLacedaemonian
@TheLacedaemonian 3 жыл бұрын
@@bilbildautaj5418 And they were albanians too (facepalm)
@bilbildautaj5418
@bilbildautaj5418 3 жыл бұрын
Lacedemon Maybe!Half of greek people is made of albanians,1/3 of vllahs and the rest of slavs,turks and a few others.What ethnicity do you belong?
@charlesfenwick6554
@charlesfenwick6554 3 жыл бұрын
@@bilbildautaj5418 Fact, the Dorians were not Illyrian.
@Garapetsa
@Garapetsa 2 жыл бұрын
That is true.
@archonpanagiotis6158
@archonpanagiotis6158 3 жыл бұрын
You can see in youtube: (the exterminator of ancient Sparta).
@rogerolsson7303
@rogerolsson7303 2 жыл бұрын
For Churchill, the russian events were of course neither a riddle nor enigma. He spelled it out in a newspaper article 1917.
@TheEedjit
@TheEedjit 2 жыл бұрын
1.25x speed is actually better.
@philliprobinson5490
@philliprobinson5490 4 жыл бұрын
:
@maxb4074
@maxb4074 2 жыл бұрын
Can't bear arms if convicted of a felony or certain domestic violence misdemeanors, or under court order for certain mental illnesses. Must pass a background check, have a waiting period, obtain a gun license, usually must pass a safety course, and many other restrictions exist for firearm possession in the USA. I don't like guns either, but please research the US system before commenting about it.
@aaronwilkinson8963
@aaronwilkinson8963 11 ай бұрын
The truth is. It's probably easier to get a gun on the streets illegally than it is to obtain a gun legally.
@ProffyChaos
@ProffyChaos 5 ай бұрын
But given the loopholes in many states, the lack of enforcement and widespread availablity of weapons do not render the point made incorrect.
@sophrapsune
@sophrapsune 6 жыл бұрын
Winston Churchill was not hesitant to ally with the Soviets in World War II out of mere prejudice. Prior to Operation Barbarossa in June 1941, the Soviets and Nazis were bedfellows. The Soviets cooperated and celebrated the invasion of Poland. They invaded Finland, Lithuania and Estonia. They stood by and watched France, Belgium and Holland fall to the Nazis while Britain fought for its life. They do not lift a finger, yet when they themselves were invaded they begged for that front to be reopened. So Churchill’s position on the Soviets was based on sound geo-strategic concerns, their duplicity and militant expansionism, not just his own political views. It is a bit ingenuous to not mention the geo-strategic issues.
@davidgurarie6712
@davidgurarie6712 5 жыл бұрын
Prior to 39 Chamberlain and Hitler were bedfellows, scheming to destroy communism
@ktom5262
@ktom5262 2 жыл бұрын
Rambling and chaotic.
@RamismTamoid
@RamismTamoid 2 жыл бұрын
Sparta made a decision over time but executed in one day enslaving a part of their own race, HELOTS, by the warrior class; it was a deliberate decision by council; if you have the strength, prowess, members, organization you can enforce by dispersion of the helots the domination of the the Spartan ELite Warrior class.
@eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807
@eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807 2 жыл бұрын
Voice, sounds similar to ...
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