The Right Way To Teach Cross Controlled Stalls

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The Right Way To Teach Cross Controlled Stalls

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Жыл бұрын

AOPA Safety Institute research found that 4 in 5 Cross Control accidents resulted in an onboard death. Cross Controlled Stalls are considered one of the most lethal stalls that can happen, so knowing the cause of it is crucial for any pilot. Liz Brassaw (Chief Flight Instructor) demonstrates how to do a Cross Controlled Stall in this video. She shows why it is caused and how to fix it. For more in-depth detail watch our ground explanation of Cross Control Stall Here: • 3 Stalls That Could Je...
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@TheAirplaneDriver 8 ай бұрын

Use of opposite rudder in a base to final turn is NOT a realistic scenario based training setup and it should not be taught in that context. The problem is skidding with use of excessive INSIDE rudder to accelerate the turn. This is clearly stated in the AFH. Inside rudder, when slow and with excessive back pressure, will induce a yawing motion in the direction of the low wing causing the low wing to stall leading to a spin. Students need to be taught that this is a killer maneuver. It is not demonstrated in primary flight training and should always be avoided. Stalls from opposite control inputs and excessive back pressure would occur in a slip, not a skid. Slips are safe maneuvers and stalls in a slip are relatively benign. Students should be taught use of both forward and side slips properly and should not be afraid to use either to help reacquire the glideslope without building up excess airspeed.

@rileybullen4961 7 күн бұрын

Cross controlled and excessive back pressure would occur in a skid, not a slip.

@TheAirplaneDriver 7 күн бұрын

@@rileybullen4961 That is not true. A skid is excessive rudder in the direction of bank (turn). Cross control is the application of opposite rudder and is the very definition of a slip. You can have excessive back pressure in either case.

@rileybullen4961 7 күн бұрын

@@TheAirplaneDriver In the cross control demonstration you are skidding with the ailerons cross controlled because you are fighting the overbanking tendency and trying to increase the rate of turn by adding excessive rudder.

@johnwise497 9 ай бұрын

Great demo. I teach this in a Citabria during tailwheel and spin endorsement training. One thought though. I’m 67 and you kids are obviously 40 years younger than me. the comment that you never want to start a conversation with “I have a story ““ is the problem with flight training. I have had many many close calls, including two off airport landings with injury in the last two years and multiple engine failures in a variety of aircraft in the last six years. We need people to tell those stories because it’s the real world. you can’t just avoid everything.

@fortheloveofcake93 9 ай бұрын

Airplane flying handbook recommends not using flaps for this maneuver.

@javarenas 6 ай бұрын

but the airplane flying handbook is just generalized, its very aircraft dependent. for example, the piper tomahawk requires one notch for this demonstration. but it can be done either way!

@CocoEspada Жыл бұрын

Great work guys, solid instruction

@ThrustFlight Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

@rapinncapin123 3 ай бұрын

Really good video

@martiniv836 Ай бұрын

Do NOT put in flaps, almost busted my CFI ride because of this video. AFH specifically says clean configuration flaps and landing gear down

@bcfreedomfighterbcff167 Ай бұрын

Aren't we supposed to clear to the left first?

@michaelshannon6134 10 ай бұрын

I dont understand why anyone would do this, why add opposite aileron when trying to bank steeply towards the runway? Really this is just a forward slip but without paying attention to airspeed, and forward slip is one of my favorite maneuvers.

@IvanskiYakinovski 10 ай бұрын

The maneuver is to practice a scenario where you overcorrect for a mistake without maintaining coordination. Doing a base to final turn is the most common scenario where someone would make this mistake.

@ladoe7239 10 ай бұрын

What I guess is, the pilot try to use left rudder to increase the left turn(left aileron bank), the airplane goes to skip with low airspeed, gets into skip stall ---- not cross controlled stall. Then pilot feels uncontrollable left-wing drop(spin), he tries to use right aileron to bank back to balance(sounds like cross control with stall/spin speed), but not work. No time no height to recover. Life wastes.

@archerpiperii2690 Жыл бұрын

Fancy new Archer you've got there! ;)

@SuperAirplanemaster Жыл бұрын

I go-around reset

@Tyleraviator99 Жыл бұрын

you should not be using flaps to avoid exceeding aircraft limitations

@backcountyrpilot 6 ай бұрын

I think the flaps on some C172’s can blank out the rudder at full flaps, but she’s demonstrating a stall while landing with just 2 of the 3 notches.

@natalino4495 Жыл бұрын

I would love to fly with you Liz Brassaw !!

@prathamchohan4817 Жыл бұрын

Is there any other solution besides a go around?

@taytayflyfly7291 Жыл бұрын

If there is enough room, you can simply maneuver back to the extended centerline of the runway AND stay coordinated. The key mistake in the cross-controlled stall is using "bottom rudder" aka inducing a skidding attitude (as opposed to slipping, which is safer). The other huge mistake is increasing the angle of attack by raising the nose. #1 lesson should be to never skid the airplane. #2 lesson is always be aware of your angle of attack, or just keep the nose down when low and slow.

@dwaynemcallister7231 8 ай бұрын

In the last few flights before my flight test for the PPL I had to fly with the flight school chief pilot before getting recommended for the flight test any way the instructor asked me to land "no flaps" as I turned base, I didn't pull power back enough for no flaps so turning final I employed full top rudder, that fixed the " too high problem beautifully but instructor say's " you can't do that " . " That's a advanced maneuver". I didn't say anything back but my normal instructor said if something doesn't look right fix it. Anyway I fixed it, my landing was beautiful, but the chief didn't care for my solution, you can't please all the people all the time!@@taytayflyfly7291

@JSFGuy Жыл бұрын

🤔... How about some upset recovery? Full tilt?

@javarenas 6 ай бұрын

for reals, that was not a full cross control stall, how is a student supposed to recover from the real full on wing drop if they dont know to expect it so they get scared.