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I thought freestylers always wanted their own hub where people could queue, so the other hubs can be contained as normal. I don't understand why Psyonix never did something for the freestyle community to resolve this issue.💜

Musste nochmal kurz die Aufrufzahl checken als ich den Kommentar gesehen habe, aber wir sind wirklich erst bei knapp 100😂. PS to the creator: Quality content icl🔥

yoo mertzy big fan bro

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There is one. Its called accepting your wins, lol. The only thing that caused this "downfall" was purposefully tanking rank so they would be against freshies who couldn't even come close to defending themselves. All they have to do is take the W's. Easy solution that some (not all) freestylers couldn't grasp.

The way JZR would just land on his back and let the opponent walk it in was sad. Dude definitely had the mechanics to recover but was using this as a loophole to keep his 1s rank shamefully low ​@@the_str4ng3r

@@the_str4ng3rthey didnt ruin their rank in ranked, it was in casual bro, no freestyler plays in ranked unless they are a cch

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yeah but that would require someone at epic games to have to lift a finger

I was literally imagining a collab between u 2

​@@KhanTheFreestylerhi khan

@@vultho8740 yoo

just watched your video on spukeluke, loving your content!

speech and moudly shoe collab is such a W

They just gotta get more creative man, spamming resets isnt even that hard anymore, muchless entertaining

Actually youre probably right. Doesnt justify it though, but you are indeed right xD

@@strix1616”flip resets aren’t even that hard” Meanwhile me who can’t even aerial correctly: 👁️👄👁️

@@swift6347 once you’re able to aerial decently you can learn to flip reset pretty easily (easy for rocket league which is still hard)

When you have 2600 hours in the game its pretty easy lol ​@@swift6347

Everyone knows he was talking bout zenilious

@@LalaChimiAnyDayOfTheWeek bold of you to assume that tbh i thought he was talking about the professional zen until i saw this comment

@@LalaChimiAnyDayOfTheWeekI didn't know.

@@LalaChimiAnyDayOfTheWeekI didn’t know, fuck you

@@gameknight.thump1 same for me

Ur here aswell?

jhzer and mk have been freestyling in low mmr casual lobbies since the start

That only goes so far so they have to smurf at some point, Like Evample has been doing the same freestyle shots for years now. Besides his style only works in 1s where you can freestyle regardless of rank, in 2s you couldn't do that same series. Defense just gets too good at high ranks, it's not that the freestylers don't have good enough mechanics, it's just that the defenders are too good. If you are purposely being as inefficient as possible you probably won't score. So they absolutely have to drop rank in order to hit anything more complex than what people have been hitting for years now

@@ragegaze3482Yep, and it's an actual paradox. In order to create enough time and space to freestyle you're pretty much required to be significantly better than your opponent, which means you're no longer playing at your rank. Like Vamp doing 'freestyle to SSL' is still kinda heavy smurfing but people don't complain as much because maybe they don't understand just how 'tall' SSL actually is

@@thegauntlet90 People don't complain about evample's freestyle to ssl because he actually tries to win his games. He's going for crazy shots instead of free open nets, but he's still trying to win, just with a different playstyle. There's a reason why the youtube series is seasonal, because he uses the seasonal mmr reset to be a lower rank again instead of losing 50 games in a row on purpose.

@@ragegaze3482 I don't see why this makes it necessary for them to smurf. If they want to freestyle, they simply have to commit to only freestyling on their account with party members so as to not throw. That way you never rank up far enough anyway because you're not going to win very much when freestyling, and you'll just end up with an unorthodox playstyle in a rank where you win 50/50. Either that or play casuals to freestyle.

Thanks man, with time that sub count will grow, I won’t stop till it does!

Yea 100% you're such an underrated content creator 👏

Love ur vids lol, they’re a good laugh from the sweaty rl gameplay.

Me?

@@babydreggle haha yeah

Thank you, glad I could make it entertaining plus educational at the same time!

Thanks legend ❤️❤️

Thx man, haha might have to make a few more to claim that title 😅

Haha we’ll have to wait and see…but I like that ring of that

Haha thx man, good to have ur support :)

shut up jaelo

I know NRG did one late last year, but outside of that it’s been pretty quiet. Maybe check liquipeida for freestyle events and u can find more 👍

@@mouldy_shoe nah I think that's it, I had a bit of a look on liqui. From that one I could find a short video about it from Musty but not the full stream of the actual event.

I think if u check the vods on the official rocket league twitch it should be in there somewhere, otherwise just search up nrg freestyle comp and hopefully something comes up

@@mouldy_shoe sick I'll have a look

Thx, when the channel grows so will that type of equipment, but still working on mic technique haha

I love pinches :)

Yes

hey proptical :DD

You’ve hit the nail on the head, and when u couple that with LAN pressure that players haven’t experienced at all, it’s totally understandable that they don’t all their shots all of the time.

Thanks man, more definitely to come!

Rocket league isn’t dying, yall are overdramatic bro. shit’s still pulling almost 80 MILLION monthly players.

@@ripit.3457 i dont mean the player count. Rocket League is a timeless game and there will always be people who play it. Im talking about content creation, trading and freestyling. And how these aspects of rocket league are slowly losing popularity. Epic games kiled 1/3 of the playerbase by removing trading (these people still play but dont get on as much). And content creators seem to run out of ideas because all we get every season is an old map with grass on it. And freestyling is and will prob forever be fun, but overall I dont see the future in this game that we saw when psyonix was still around. And thats why it seems pointless to me

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Intimidate new players, people will get annoyed

Easier to say it than to experience it. When I started playing RL my first week was filled with mostly freestylers, I wasn't even at a bronze level and I was getting them in my games. All I could do at the time was sit in nets and watch them clip on me. I literally stopped playing and had no intentions of giving this game another shot, it was my friends who pushed me to continue playing it otherwise I wouldn't have endured it for as long as I did until I started playing more with players my own skill level.. So I'm willing to bet RL lost a good chunk of new players due to how common it was for them to run into freestylers.

@@MoreTickle when I first started playing I went against a few freestylers, I found it fun watching them and rooting for them to hit the shot. I was amazed at what they could do. Probably the only reason I kept playing

Some people just wanna chill. Hopping on when you can barely jump to get consistently reset on has turned off many friends I've had from starting the game.

had the opposite effect for me, made me wanna play even more and become as good as they were. i'd understand if it was almost every game against a freestyler but thats rare or it is for me at least, i rarely come up against other freestylers and you could always play ranked too@@MoreTickle

Thanks man, glad u liked the vid and keep freestyling!

Programming an AI to make a cool ass gamemode? Bruh just buy the Jordan sking and stfu

Lol, freestyling is nowhere near popular enough for that to happen

@@CytroBruh what? JZR has more than a millon subs and everybody has ever heard about it atleast once

That’s a cool way to look at it, can relate I love a good challenge when a pro comes into my gc2 lobbies

Couldn’t have said it better myself

I think what you’re getting at can somewhat be a result of the Freestyling exodus, which has contributed to less uploads by freestylers, I love those types of vids too!

When you freestyle at a lower mmr, some games the freestyler wins and sometimes the other player wins. Its just that freestylers want to get down to a lower rank really fast, or have an extremely low mmr which is not good. Playing against gold players works the best as freestylers only win about 50% of the time.

​@@TeamOrbitRLyes, but gold players are still hopeless against champ+ freestylers

@@Cytro As I just explained they're not. They always ballchase and score against us all the time.

I think mainly just the normal modes, ppl haven’t caught onto Freestyling in drop shot yet…

Haha nah I don’t hate freestylers, tried to present it as un bias as possible :)

The smurfing ban was in relation to ranked, not casual, and as a CCH myself I couldn’t agree more

@@mouldy_shoe a lot of my friends got banned for having low mmr in casual not dropping ranked games btw

@pr0ptic4l I thought psyonix just adjusted ppl’s mmr like in Faith’s case, but maybe I’m wrong

@@mouldy_shoe pretty sure it was because of casual from what i understood from their tweets about it. weird that freestylers would be dropping rank in the actual ranked playlist when their already -300 cas mmr

What makes u say it’s at its peak rn?

It’s another yter called “speech”

The freestyling is in casual, check 8:10.

Almost no freestylers freestyle in rank. The only ones that do are competitive clip hitters. He just said rank because casual technically has a hidden rank because it's skill based matchmaking.

Most freestylers just bakkesmod a skin onto it, but ngl developers should totally do that

it was a guy called zenulous

He wasn’t on pulse, however he was involved in freestyle tournaments

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@@mouldy_shoe wait are u actually doing it?💀

Hell no 🤣

@@mouldy_shoe I guessed that lol why would u listen to me💀

Honestly I wouldn’t be either

Freestylers wanna have fun at the expense of new players, that’s the whole issue here

They do that in casual, big deal whoopty doo. If new players want to improve then they can play ranked. And if they do play casual and encounter a freestyler, then they should just try and have fun. If I saw someone hitting crazy shots in a lobby I would be amazed, not crying over 5 minutes and pixels on a screen. First world complaining lmao.@@Pudding6714

​@@hendude127that's a skill issue on your part if you can't hit clips against people who can actually hit the ball in casual

Partly yes, but you do realize that high ranked players ball chase because it's the meta. There are freestylers who can hit clips in high GC like Henkovic and Jxsh, but what freestylers really want is as many opportunities as possible to hit clips, and they get that in low lobbies. Also who cares if it's a skill issue? It's not that deep. Freestylers just want to have fun and people are creating problems, aka "ur surfing" that do not exist. It's casual for a reason. Why is there no ranking system in casual? Because mmr does not matter. You can find diamonds in 1500 mmr casual, which is gc1 in comp. RL community is just toxic and thinks everything needs to be done a certain way, "no smurfing in casual" for example, when in reality it's really not a big deal.@@Cytro

​@@hendude127 casual is still skill-based matchmaking, if you play at a much lower mmr it's still considered smurfing...

I think it’d be wrong to say RL is dying, but it certainly is in a stagnant state atm ingame.

@mouldy_shoe I don't think fall necessary means to its death, but it has fallen from its heyday and quite considerably at that.

The game itself yes, the rlcs is probably a bit different (although this season is a bit scuffed to say the least)

@mouldy_shoe Oh my god so true, this is the most strangest RLCS season I could be supporting one team and they could be great one week and the next week just incorregible. Truly interesting

they didn't turn on freestyling. Freestyling turned on them. Don't blame the victims for crying foul.

@@MontroseChloe freestyling didnt change at all though

@@Chizinky uh.. did you not watch the video? where it explicitly states that it changed? are you... ya know.. respectfully, are you .. dumb?

Nah, I'm a champ freestyler and I do exactly what you say, hit decent clips in comp against people my own rank and hit even better clips in freeplay, never touched casual lol

this will simply just never work lol

@@l1bric Got an explanation why?

@@isaakvandaalen3899 i didnt wnna get all nerdy but a couple things 1. "but frankly the point of Freestyling is to hit shots against actual people who are actually trying to save your shots." if this is true explain to me how the point of every freestyle tournament ever is solely about giving freestylers the space to hit whatever shot they can 2. im not even saying that ur saying this, but people REALLY need to understand that freestylers aren't hitting clips on low mmr players in casual just because we like shitting on people who cant save our goals. i have no idea how this idea even started because it literally makes no sense. like bro i know that this random guy in casual named CoolPear293 will never save any of my good attempts, but im not doing it because i think it's cool or something to clip on people who i know stand no chance, im simply doing it because it still counts as a real game (i explain this later) 3. ive never understood how us playing in low level casual is considered as "smurfing." yes, there is casual mmr that determines who u play against, but it never gets associated with a specific rank like it does in competitive. in my understanding, smurfing is when you're playing in real games that have real stakes which could potentially ruin someone's real rank, of which there are none (ranks) in casual 4. this part is not a very strong argument but is important nonetheless: it is INCREDIBLY rare for a player to get into a game with freestylers. the ratio of regular players to freestylers is so incredibly small that most players in casual probably wont even meet a freestyler in the first place. however, ive seen multiple people claim that they "have friends who quit the game because they got freestyled on in casuaL!!!! OMG FREESTYLERS ARE SATANIC!!!!!!!" that's equivalent to me saying that i would quit the game because i lost a singular, trivial game of comp where i got smurfed on. but does that sound logical at all? (surprise, it doesnt). and, at the same time, i see so many people say that because casual players have no idea what's going on, it's morally wrong to clip on them... if they have no idea what's going on, what difference does it make if i hit a corner on them or if they get beat by other casual players? i need someone to tell me plz 5. and finally, ill address the extremely popular idea that freestylers should just hit clips in training because it makes no difference playing there than in games where the casual opponents cant defend. there are a few important facets to this, one being the fact that when playing in casual games you kind of replicate the flow of a normal game while still allowing for freestyles to spontaneously happen in the spur of the moment, adding a sort of randomness and luck element to it (while this is very subjective, and that many shots that are planned beforehand are still very good, i think many would agree that the best freestyle goals happen when the goal isnt planned out beforehand). also, if im playing in training or private matches, i can much more easily fake a clip than i could if i had played in a real match, especially with the tools available these days. another thing that isnt as important but is still important is that if im playing in training and i hit a clip, that eliminates the possibility of me saving the replay file for the clip, allowing me to go back and record that shot without the HUD on. yes, i could shadowplay it, but almost every official freestyle montage released in the past 2893 years has been made by using rocket league's surprisingly good replay system. YES I KNOW U CAN SAVE REPLAYS IN PRIVATE MATCHES, BUT I OFTEN FIND MYSELF HITTING MORE CLIPS SPONTANEOUSLY IN TRANING/CUSTOM TRAINING THAN I DO IN PRIVATE MATCHES!!!L>>>> to be honest with you, as long as freestyling exists, this problem will never get fully resolved, and freestylers will always hit clips in casual just how CSGO clip hitters will always use cheats to hit clips in game, but i suppose it helps to try and justify it rather than just forcing people to accept it. that being said, i know the arguments above are at times very subjective, but i still think many of them apply even if people try to argue they don't. yap session over.

@@l1bric I think a lot of those arguments don't invalidate my own argument. Most of your points are related to freestyling in Casual gamemodes - I really don't have a serious problem with this. While in a perfect world sure I think it'd be nice if every low-level casual game was filled with genuinely low-level players, I also agree that when people queue for Casual games they're doing so with the understanding that whatever they're getting into shouldn't be taken too seriously. I very regularly play against high Champs, GCs and even the odd SSL in my Casual games and while usually they handily beat me, I'm not out here complaining about smurfs in Casuals. My problem isn't with people who Freestyle in Casual playlists, my problem is with people who Freestyle against casual players in Ranked playlists. As I said in an earlier comment, my perspective here is as somebody who mostly grinds ranked. That's where most of the value in RL lies for me, and it's what I'm most concerned about. Also to address your point 1. Freestyle tournaments are obviously different to queuing online games. In Freestyle tournaments there are a set of expectations that each competitor has, which are very different to the expectations that a Gold 3 has when they Q a game of Ranked 1v1s. As for your point 2. I agree that Freestyling is not the same as Smurfing - but you can do both at once! While I appreciate that most smurfs aren't trying to ruin the experience for others, when you play against very low MMR opponents, that's effectively what you're doing. Once again, I'm talking about Ranked here. If you want to ball out in Casuals and just do whatever, that's totally cool man.

Wah Wah I HAVE to abuse new players or I have no chance of pulling off this trick shot! So they should just be fine with letting me do whatever I want at their expense! wah wah. Cause it's OK to ruin everyone elses experience as long as YOU get to make your clips? You're trash.

That’s rough, feel free to always vent in the comment section haha

maybe you should reflect on your actions and not cry about the consequences from them but instead better yourself and stop saying hate/slur/abusive comments in game. Use this as a means to become a better person.