Interesting sotry

@@kolex3713 Thanks

Je opa was een held ff Nederlands onder elkaar❤️

@@tijlstoker8400 dankjewel. Het was mijn over over groot opa. Mijn overgrootopa was ook vliegtuig monteur alleen bij Fokker en KLM!

The G1's actually did take off from Waalhaven, however the G1s at Bergen militairy airport in Noord-Holland were all damaged by the Germans and could not be put in action. My grandfather used to work for Fokker before the war, during the second world war he had to work for Fokker (then unfortunately run by the Germans) in Amsterdam Noord , and he continued to work for Fokker after WWII.

Not really. The Black Widow design was driven by tyre requirements for radar operation, range, and armament

You should do a vid on what happened to Tjerk Hidde Leegstra.

Geniaal dat er ook weer wat ouderwetse fietsen in de luchtbasis stonden

Echt typisch nederlandse basis

Yes, we were rather busy at the time old chap.

No time to act like a museum for a single aircraft when thousands where used in a very hot war.

Sounds pretty much like our entire defence tbh

Pretty much your average Enlisted game… it is realistic though.

Unfortunately all G1s at Bergen were damaged or destroyed before they could take off to engage in a battle with the Germans.

Interresting

What is your source for this?

It was due to the full naive ignorance by the commands that, with the acute German threat existent, the dutch military planes where lined up neatly other airfields, ready to be destroyed, which then so happened to most of them.

Betul, dia lahir di Blitar di Hindia Belanda. Tapi waktu dia masih anak kecil (umur empat tahun) sudah pindah ke Belanda.

I truely enjoy this impressive documentary in black and white pictures. Who will pretend in his right mind that the dutch air force was non existent and did not play its part in the early days of the german offensive against the west front ??. And who will sustain that the dutch aeronautic industry was not capable to design and manufacture such a good aircraft as the twin engined Fokker G 1?What an elegant and racy machine!!!! It is a great pity that so few of them could be produced and that not even one exemplary could outlive World War Two to be displayed in an air force museum where it belonged !!!

The top speed of the production aircraft was a little over 470 km/h. In a dive it could easily reach and handle speeds of over 700 km/h. Not bad for a mid 1930s design with those Mercury or Wasp engines - certainly not when war broke out in 1939. Plus it had great maneuverability, which made up for the lack of top speed against the early Bf 109s at the time of the German invasion in May 1940. I don't know hat the prognosed top speed was had the G I been fitted with the RR engines...

Anthony Fokker spent WWII in the USA, but his reputation as a designer over there was not the best. One of his main designers, Erich Schatzki, however, also escaped to the US and helped design the P-47.

We never had, even nowadays are Dutch planes with USA or UK engines

But older

Its the other way around. Rumors go that Lockheed has used the idea of Fokker and developed it further, which was, due to the war, impossible for the Dutch. The P-38 showed the same characteristics as the G-1, fast and agile. Lockheed made the aircraft bigger and more powerful so it was capable of longer ranges and more ammo.

@@jpsholland Fokker already had designed a new twin boom fighter with tandem engines.in 1939 the Fokker D23 or DXXIII the prototype was destroyed with the bombing of schiphol , the germans later used that concept for their donier pfeil.

@@jpsholland damn you are obviously a Dutchophile .. it’s all good but other folks made twin boom aircraft as well. Pretty sure the Caproni Ca.1had a twin boom long before any Dutch plane.

@@jpsholland what ”rumors" ?

Plenty of warning, but many a pacifist in the government that believed war would pass by the Netherlands as it did during WW1. As a result they did everything in their power to smother the budget for the military that as a result were hopelessly outdated when the invasion hit.

Indeed. The military leadership was already mid 1930's well aware that war would be coming. General Izaäk Reijnders was one of the few allied generals in Europe that closely studied the German invasion of Poland and saw the massive potential of Blitzkrieg even against nations as France. He believed France would not be able to hold the Germans. As for the Netherlands he already stated mid 1930's that the Germans might use paratroopers to secure vital airfields and bridges. The way he believed how the Germans would invade the Netherlands is almost exactly how it happened. He was one of the few recognizing that a new age of warfare had started, but petty much everyone worked against him, eventually leading to him quitting his position in 1940, just before the war, after the government repeatedly refused to give him the needed resources to defend his nation. Truly a forgotten hero with a magnificent military and geopolitical insight.

@@tigervv6437 yep , Reijnders was extremely progressive and knew exactly what was coming and what needed to be done to defend against it.. as you said , unfortunately he was ran off.. one of the Netherlands best military thinkers of his time.

I have that boom to. But iat not 100% the real story ofcourse 😉

Wauw, de tekenaar van January Jones... Ken ik nog van Wordt Vervolgd 😅

@@LZ-zi3ll ...niet alleen EPPO WV & JJ (11 titels)... ik heb nog 40 titels gemaakt. Vorig jaar de Max Havelaar in stripvorm...

@@ericheuvel7864 Oh dat wist ik niet! Kende January Jones nog van vroeger maar wist niet dat er nog recente albums waren (of dat je ook andere dingen tekende). Is voor mij jeugdsentiment haha, net als Franka en Storm. Ik zal binnenkort eens kijken! 😅

@@LZ-zi3ll ... als je mijn naam Googled en bij afbeeldingen kijkt zie je meer dingen die ik heb gemaakt. Vorig jaar de stripversie van Max Havelaar. January Jones kent inmiddels elf titels waarvan de laatsten ook door mij geschreven werden. Martin Lodewijk schreef de eerste 6 delen. JJ deel 11 heet Jachtkruiser... met de Fokker G1 dus... mooi toestel...

Rumors go that Lockheed has indeed used the idea of Fokker and maybe even got their hands on the actual blueprints. With the USA's resources they could improve Fokkers idea to build an even more powerful version. The P38 Lightning

Die hadden ze toch? Die gebruikte ze voor veel nachtmissies boven de Noordzee en Duitsland. Het was ook het eerste vliegtuig met ingebouwde radar. De vleugels waren van hout, wat het toen lastig op te sporen maakte voor Duitse (latere) radar vliegtuigen. Kan even niet op de naam komen.

@@jouniairplanevideos mosquito was de naam

@@williamkersbergen o ja, thanks

@@jouniairplanevideos Volgens mij was de Mosquito helemaal van hout. Het idee erachter was dat hout een niet essentieel materiaal was in WWII en dat er een enorme hoeveelheid kennis was onder de gewone bevolking voor het bewerken van hout. De Mosquito zou gebouwd kunnen worden zonder enige druk op de productie van de metale vliegtuigen uit te oefenen. Brilliant idee eigenlijk.

Net als jouw opleiding. Zelden zoveel spelfouten in zo'n korte zin gezien....

Yup

How do you mean?

@@Tidebo1 What*

Is there a G1 mod for gta 5?

@@Tidebo1 it is called Pyro. Google it.

The G.I was not far better than any German fighter in 1940. The Bf 109 was faster, more agile and better armed. The G.I had a lot of potential and could have been excellent with a different armament and better engines, but it was never to be. The Fokker D.XXIII also had a lot of potential, but the invasion cut short its development.

No. Denmark bought 12 g1 fighters and manufacturing lisence but not a single aircraft had been delivered before Germany invaded Denmark.

(who cares you're from denmark)

@@whoknows8225 I do !

The Danish G.Is would be armed with two Madsen cannons and two Madsen machineguns. They were actually delivered, but were still in their crates by the time the Germans invaded Denmark. At that time the Danish Air Force had not even finished their license built D.XXIs.

Well the p38 was designed in 1937 and only flew in februari 1939 The g1 was designed in 1934 and flew in 1937. And there was another twin boomed single seat fighter of fokker that was designed in 1937 The fokker DXXXIII or D23 also shown at the paris airshow as a mock up and flew its first flight in may 1939.even lindberg was impressed. That aircraft with the Rolls-Royce and daimler engines it could reach speed over 615 km/hr However do to export embargo on aircraft engines at the time it uses walter sigati engines making it only fly 520 km/hr as it was a prototype and was destroyed in may 1940. it had triangular laning gear , engines in tandem and even a ejector sear was in development as the pilot needed to be clear or the rear propellor to eject. Later the germans copied the features of the Fokker D23 and used it for the DO 335 fastest piston engine driven fighter of the war. See the specs and old rare footage below. www.dutch-aviation.nl/index5/Military/index5-1%20D23.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7SCfcWDmr-1gnk.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kNOAaLxqyLa5h2w.html

@@marcusfranconium3392 very useful details.thanks.

The Italian Caproni Ca 1 flew in 1914 , predating Fokker by a long time

@@guaporeturns9472 Well the caproni ca1 didnt fly in 1914 it was 1910 and it was a bomber not a fighter, secondly twin boom dubbledecker aircraft where not new every aircraft with a pusher engine was a twin boom aircraft even before the 1910s The concept of a twinboom twin engined mono dekker heavy figther/light bomber concept was new.

@@marcusfranconium3392 my info says 1914 , if 1910 then so be it. I didn’t say it was the first , just using it as an example to show that twin boom was not a new concept. I’m not sure why you feel the need to tell me stuff I already know..I know the twin boom heavy fighter concept was pretty unique , and as I said earlier the heavy fighter concept didn’t go anywhere.

Yeah , and next time you want the best engine call Pratt and Whitney , area code R , number is 2-8-0-0.

But, the Dutch engineers really wanted the best ... Rolls-Royce engines !

@@Jester-Riddle Rolls-Royce are good for sure. So are Daimler-Benz , but P&W R-2800 are pretty darn good.

@@guaporeturns9472 The Dutch wanted the Rolls Royce Engines, but they couldn't get them ... as explained in the video. I am not going to fight over which engines would have suited this particular aircraft best, but Dutch engineers seemed to have wanted the RR engines for their design. I would say that unless all 3 engines were tried in comparison, we shall never know which engines would actually have been the best for the aircraft performance and for which roles, as they all had different performance benefits and setbacks. Are you aware that some of the 'American Engines' at this stage of the War were actually Rolls Royce Engines modified for manufacture in the USA ? Furthermore, as part of the free technology transfer as part of the massive payment Britain made to the USA for it's help in the War, Engine technology was provided to the USA ? Britain finished paying it's financial debt to America for a War ending in 1945 finally in 2006 ! Yes, the United States assistance was a great commercial deal ... but an essential one at the time. Britain, on the other hand, let Germany off it's WWII Reparations cost to enable Germany to re-build as it's population was starving ... Britain was also starving post war, but was made to pay back the USA ...

@@Jester-Riddle yeah I am very aware of the American copies of RR engines. Probably was aware of that before you were born. Original comment said DB , not RR so not sure why you wasted your time typing stuff that I already knew and that doesn’t pertain to this thread.... I simply like radials best.. not sure why you brought up nationalities ? Oh you must think Im a national flag waver like you appear to be.. nope , just love radials and of the radials of the time the R2800 is my fave. Go try to start an argument with someone else , as I already won this one and I didn’t even argue. Adios.😂

Soesterberg 1 compleet en een half afgebouwd

Money is the simply reason. Building Dutch planes was cheaper i think

The Dutch thought they could stay out of the war like they did in WWI. So spending on war equipment was unpopular. The joke is of course that the Germans only invaded The Netherlands to get to France. We're still recovering from that insult ;-)

Im a Dutch descendant in South Africa. I see them as one of the most peacefull nations on earth. Dutch are genetically programmed to farm, trade and mind their own business.

@@awardfoto1 the dutch were not so peaceful in the far east. check out the history of indonesia.

Wiki ww2: "a vast majority of the indigenous Dutch East Indies population first welcomed the Japanese as liberators from the colonial Dutch empire, but this sentiment quickly changed as the occupation turned out to be far more oppressive and ruinous than the Dutch colonial government" I can say that about the new South Africa as well.

Since when? Anthony Fokker was Dutch, also when he built fighters for Germany in WWI…

100% Dutch.

We're already invaded and sold out by our government once again, it's called the EU.

Alle linkse partijen gaan niet in defensie investeren, dat wordt wat....

You can't blame the goverment back then, they had managed to stay out of the first world war, saving an entire generation. This led to great support in pascifism in the Netherlands and thus many decisions on rearmement were neglected and unpopular by the people. So it isn't the goverment's fault, it's a combination of the two probably. Besides since 1936 the Dutch budget had gone way up, that's 4 years of preparing! The problem wasn't the money, there just weren't countries that wanted to sell weapons when they themselves were going to need them real soon.

@@lukamichels2186 Also we thought Germany wouldn't attack us.

@@lukamichels2186 The government could read the writing on the Wall. It was clear The Netherlands couldn’t remain neutral. So Fokker could build a good plain, but not in the right Numbers. And the government failed the train sufficiënt pilots. Indeed neglected because of pascifism, and not haring a seance of reality..

I really dont think they care one way or another.

@@Wolf1354 When have they ever?