The Rise of Competitive Giant Melee (Documentary)

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Super Smash Bros. Melee has seen over two decades of competitive play, but while the world of Melee singles has been sharpened into something highly optimized and technical, it only represents a percentage of what the game has to offer, even when factoring in competitive play.
In this video, we will explore the oft-misunderstood game mode Giant Melee, the game mode where characters are more big and meet the players who have helped push the mode to new heights in recent years.
This video was a project I started last year that kind of ballooned as they tend to do. Much appreciation to @DarkGenex, @Miffee, Preeminent, Nicki, aMSa, puunk_, ycz and more for their contributions.
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00:00 The Embiggening
02:49 The Rediscovery
05:14 To Be Big
07:53 The Undisputed Top-Tier
10:45 Large Developments
11:56 The Salty Suite
17:26 All Quiet on Giant Front
19:14 Collision 2023
42:30 Small Setbacks
44:18 Invasion by Sea
49:00 Collision 2024
1:21:43 Capacity for Growth
corrections: Avant La Fete was a british tournament! They just wrote it in frencch bc they're wild like that.

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@wusstunes Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Music list is in the pastebin in the video description! Also I know that Avant La Fete didn't happen in France.

@mechashoujo Ай бұрын

I went thru the entire play list and didn't hear the song at 15:54. If I were to guess its a SF3 song but the one track listed isn't it. Do you know which it is?

@0rio298 Ай бұрын

@@mechashoujo I could be wrong but maybe it’s from Ape Escape? It kinda has that feel to it.

@mechashoujo Ай бұрын

@@0rio298 will check it out later. Thanks!

@0rio298 Ай бұрын

@@mechashoujo No problem! I’m gonna double check the song list and make then see if it is part of the Ape Escape soundtrack.

@mechashoujo Ай бұрын

@@0rio298 AE is not listed in the track list in the desc. I checked every song and didn't find it :/

@princessjellyfish98 2 ай бұрын

amsa's devotion to yoshi in all game modes is so admirable

@mrhalfsaid1389 2 ай бұрын

That's why he's my goat

@moosesues8887 2 ай бұрын

He main yoshi in every game

@moosesues8887 2 ай бұрын

Ever made

@mcyogourt2071 2 ай бұрын

@@moosesues8887 I'm pretty sure he plays something else in ssbu

@numbers4092 2 ай бұрын

@@moosesues8887except in ult he plays roy

@Oualouidji 2 ай бұрын

Can't wait for the 2-minute long documentary on Tiny Melee

@Zoler1 2 ай бұрын

tiny ness still has giant bat, the end

@jepale2 2 ай бұрын

Amsa looked like he was having the time of his life in every single clip of him in collision 2023

@1harlo Ай бұрын

He looks like he’s having the time of his life all the time bro only smiles and I love it

@DarkGenexSmash 2 ай бұрын

This is huge. Ty for having me on again after the Giga Bowser doc this is such a delight to watch. Long live Giant Melee

@wusstunes 2 ай бұрын

You're always a very good interview. Pleasure's all mine! Excited to see where the meta goes from here.

@zdelrod829 2 ай бұрын

Giga Bowser should be legal in Giant Melee. LET THE KOOPA COOK

@sonatab2646 2 ай бұрын

The big boy himself

@nahometesfay1112 2 ай бұрын

Supergiant gigabowser

@christianwise4227 Ай бұрын

Heh, this is huge

@SSBMNicki 2 ай бұрын

Truly gigantic. Thank you for allowing me to be a part of this, if anyone in Europe or on the NA East Coast wants to play Giant Melee with me they should hit me up!

@awareclueless 2 ай бұрын

EU baby!

@ludvig.r3341 2 ай бұрын

Wayy not good enough but I am interested in learning!

@russiangenome9643 Ай бұрын

You were awesome and if you ever plan to make content in the future, follow the playbook of what Zain has been doing the past month.

@zdelrod829 Ай бұрын

@@ludvig.r3341 Same, but I am not able to travel far, and live in SE Michigan, the home of Ginger, the 26th ranked player in SSBMRank 2023

@andrewbank4696 2 ай бұрын

I love the old-school sentiment here. You can feel it in the character swaps, the gimmicks, and discovery. There's no doubt in my mind that if Nicki was around during the MLG era, they would've been a threat to Ken's #1 spot.

@jlachman381 2 ай бұрын

15 minutes in and my brain forgot what normal size characters look like.

@rorbee 2 ай бұрын

Massive video talking about Giant Melee in the larger picture. What a humongous workload, an absolutely gargantuan task. Big thanks to you wusstunes for knocking it out of the park with these feature lengths every single time.

@chiliwong6311 2 ай бұрын

Incredible video, fun fact: nana's AI scales with popo's percent, so she'll make better decisions the higher percent popo is when she enters attack mode

@heliumpai7627 2 ай бұрын

Oh woah that's wild- Does that mean Ice Climbers a little better since your percent would naturally rack up more in giant mode?

@starp7675 2 ай бұрын

So basically the first comeback mechanic

@Sunny92809 2 ай бұрын

@@starp7675in melee it was intentionally programmed that when down in stocks you can mash out of grabs slightly more easily.

@super2thesam Ай бұрын

Oh man, I don’t wanna be that guy, but someone should doublecheck that fun-fact. I think it might be a melee pop myth.

@chiliwong6311 Ай бұрын

@super2thesam go watch fictions "breaking the ice climbers" series or read through the ice climbers documentation, I promise it's all in there :)

@RedPandaStan 2 ай бұрын

i dont play melee, but what ive gotten from various documentaries on the game is that if you do anything but the competitive stage list w no items, peach becomes broken.

@GanonAutumn777 2 ай бұрын

My siblings,ever since melee's release will only play on giant mode only and hyrule temple,with them only playing regular sized smash when my cousins come over to visit

@wusstunes 2 ай бұрын

thats so cool

@JDLupus 2 ай бұрын

26:19 the double-jump armor just eating the stitchface made me laugh so hard

@Hoopryfien 2 ай бұрын

36:48 "THAT TOAD IS SO BIG" fucking killed me, I love that

@bobthebuilder9509 2 ай бұрын

My therapist: “Giant toad doesn’t exist, he can’t hurt you” Giant Toad:

@LiliumOrientalis 2 ай бұрын

"WHY?!" it's incredible

@RadikAlice Ай бұрын

"Melee is a horror game" is up there too

@PattPlays 2 ай бұрын

I just saw a falco hit a tipper on a reverse up tilt.... i've seen it all now..

@happymonkeyfish 2 ай бұрын

26:27 Hbox wishing he didn't drop out i reckon

@Aflay1 2 ай бұрын

This is it Luigi...

@guillaumechau6082 2 ай бұрын

remember, where there's smoke...

@Finikki111 2 ай бұрын

⁠…there’s fire!

@Baddaby Ай бұрын

Always remember to wash your giant f0reskin Luigi!

@imjustalittleqwerty Ай бұрын

@@guillaumechau6082They pinch back.

@Reoko77 2 ай бұрын

9:21 Peach "what did the 5 fingers say to the face?" Pichu: "please... have mercy on my soul. I just want a chance at life. To live, laugh, learn. My family needs me. I need them. Please dont ta- Peach: 9:24

@katswarrior Ай бұрын

Peach punches a baby mouse to death

@shaynehughes6645 2 ай бұрын

36:47 Me when I find a cool toad after it rains

@SSB_Seal 2 ай бұрын

Huge video! I've been a Giant Melee appreciator since Justin first got me to play it in his hotel room at Shine 2019, and I'm super glad to see it get more recognition through videos like this and even having multiple majors. It's especially awesome to see many friends like Justin, Preeminent, Ex-Girlfriend, and basically everyone else in this video all get featured for what they have brought to this game mode. Giant Melee is a world where the unbelievable becomes the norm, and it's up to each player to get out there and discover new things. Thanks for making this!

@Booksisgreat 2 ай бұрын

I remember you telling me about this lol, this is rad

@aBlackMage 2 ай бұрын

I love "LIVE HGOD REACTION: 😐"

@MarMaxGaming 2 ай бұрын

Honestly, it’s a legit and fun game mode! It’s so cool that people are appreciating it as its own thing, it’s definitely entertaining!

@thanks_605 2 ай бұрын

I used to love leaving sets on giant melee, people usually don’t notice until they start the game

@GoomySmash 2 ай бұрын

30:35 Is the nastiest combo holy moly

@direfox712 Ай бұрын

7:54 Ayo, no way. Miffee is using an old wallpaper engine wallpaper I made from years ago.

@electricspirit3600 2 ай бұрын

I think one compensation buff for ICs is that living to higher percents unlocks better CPU levels for Nana.

@gargator4888 2 ай бұрын

I kind of want to see competitive coin battle now if players are looking at special melee for alternative rulesets

@Stinkbug_Ab Ай бұрын

Its so wild to see giant melee top players say they have no idea how good yoshi is in giant melee bc yoshi was my first thought for top tier in this mode, imroved cc and a more grounded game is so good for yoshi as long as you can get around the longer jump squat

@splegoon4289 2 ай бұрын

Commentators now be like: “That was a HUUUGE upset right there!!!”

@Reilia_ 2 ай бұрын

18:06 that joke is so wild. Honestly, respect

@Mario1080p 2 ай бұрын

Video inspired me to try Giant Smash Ultimate with the custom balance setting I've been working on, pretty fun to go along with a feature that's local only. I just find it interesting that Ultimate's Giant characters have the same jumpsquat as normal sized ones.

@keeislegend 2 ай бұрын

auto play turned this on, i left it on thinking itd be a short video, an hour later im still watching, and still entertained. Cool vid

@puunk_9240 2 ай бұрын

This is giant.

@Antifrost Ай бұрын

I see you with that Pokemon TCG music, wonderful choice there. I've often enjoyed both participating in and hosting more specialized tournaments, so I do know the pain of seeing so many people sign up for one only for a large chunk to not show up. Even so, stuff like this is more than just a welcome break from the standard meta. My first exposure to Giant Melee was recent, when I came across some vods here on KZfaq while I was looking up clips for a different tournament, and it certainly caught my attention. I do think it has the potential to cement itself as a recurring event at tournaments, though the gears in my head are also wondering what other modes could make for interesting events as well. My thoughts immediately turned to Mini Melee, but my intuition tells me that it'd actually take away most of the factors that make Giant Melee worth playing, so I'm assuming that one's off the table.

@wusstunes Ай бұрын

tiny melee peach is also the best character, but in less interesting ways, is my understanding

@Shiradrenaline 2 ай бұрын

Great video with funny and lively editing. The depth of Melee is truly infinite.

@Zanphos 2 ай бұрын

This was so fun! Im loving the dedication to the less lauded aspects of melees competitive community. also- unrelated. your hair looks great!!!

@heliumpai7627 2 ай бұрын

Hehehe- yeah I gasped when I saw it, their hair is FABULOUS

@PsychorGames Ай бұрын

I'd always ask my brothers to play on giant mode because it felt more realistic and cinematic. The idea in my head went like this: The characters aren't bigger, they just functionally don't jump as high.

@xelementalsupreme9308 Ай бұрын

Amsa casually making Yoshi the first giant melee major winning character

@invalidssb 2 ай бұрын

Shout out to Puunk_ we played loads of Giant melee and he also made a fun video on giant melee :)

@DankAudioStash24 2 ай бұрын

The writing and music selection on this were awesome, thank you for making this!!

@Marinealver 2 ай бұрын

All because of Giga Bowser

@gamesincharacter5106 2 ай бұрын

Suprised that hes not in it or bower didn’t appear in this video?

@Bloubz77 2 ай бұрын

@@gamesincharacter5106 we see giga bowser in this video

@aurorasksk Ай бұрын

just wanted to say this is a freaking well put together video that made me want to try out this game mode despite not playing melee at all due to the sheer fun and accessibility for newer players. u earned urself a new subscriber ❤

@aaronsound Ай бұрын

You're so great in those documentary style videos! it just keeps getter better, such an interesting topic that i never heard about either!!!

@riceballsmashpokemongamere1705 2 ай бұрын

A 1 and a half hour video about a metagame I didn't know existed? You had my attention, but now, you have my interest.

@JDLupus 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely loved this video! Great stuff, thank you

@JH-pe3ro 2 ай бұрын

Giant Fox vs Giant Falco has been a meme for years

@queuedjar4578 2 ай бұрын

ganon down throw chaining puff was among the funniest things i've ever seen in melee

@xelementalsupreme9308 Ай бұрын

I think giant melee may promote a player's capacity to approach and to handle disadvantage, bc when a bad decision can throw away a stock that easily, you start to look more for ways to go around the opponent's options and start your offense

@barnabasbf5417 2 ай бұрын

Wow amazing video! I didn’t even know these brackets existed but I already want to get my hands on it and see more brackets pop up!

@Birdup__ 2 ай бұрын

End of meleegelion

@pandaforce6162 8 күн бұрын

this is one of those videos i open on another tab and save for later so i dont forget it. 2 months later, im glad i didnt forget. this was beast

@robertlaghiti7228 Ай бұрын

That luigi combo was the most complex combo in existence. He pressed the nair 4 times and it just works. Ganon needs something else on his b button to deal with projectiles.

@coolcool4525 2 ай бұрын

My weekly melee monday @ picante was shown at the end!!! I love running goofy side events (randoms, reverse mains, etc) so giant melee just fit right in and its mad fun! banger video :D

@Alex-vm6ef 2 ай бұрын

Sick video man, felt a little revival of the feeling i had when i first encountered this game while watching it

@adithahsan752 2 ай бұрын

So are amsa and nicki the Ken and Azen of giant melee

@Rubbly Ай бұрын

Ohhhhhh, I get it! "Giant" Melee still has room for "growth" 😂

@Ry-gt2by 28 күн бұрын

This was an AWESOME video! Keep it up because you're really talented

@noved15 2 ай бұрын

What?!!!! WHAT?!!???! I can not wait to learn more.

@Maxx00 2 ай бұрын

Another amazing doc, keep up the good work! :) (Also Pokemon TCG OST is goated)

@leonblum816 2 ай бұрын

Haven't seen the video yet but I already know I'm gonna LOVE it. You're the best!

@Haispawner Ай бұрын

I like how this turns Smash into Tekken with extra air time and falling hazards.

@wusstunes Ай бұрын

I actually felt that way too! You are almost always in range or nearly in range for a strike, your movement is more committal, combos are harder to escape, it does kind of make it more like a 3D fighter.

@Haispawner Ай бұрын

@@wusstunes What made me think of Tekken was seeing combos where like the guy falls on his ass with really high gravity and you can kinda kick him around from your standing position before they get to land. Never played Tekken myself but I've seen plenty of it.

@aidandoesmusic 2 ай бұрын

this vid was sick af, amazing work !!

@luxinfinite1394 Ай бұрын

Regardless of how either story could've ended, as a fellow gamer with a similar philosophy I am proud of Amsa and Nicki for fighting for their favorite character no matter the obstacle.

@eizzah8323 2 ай бұрын

47:20 Avant la Fête was a British tournament, the stream mentions it's in Oxford UK

@wusstunes 2 ай бұрын

excuse me i didnt know they spoke french there

@skeletongwen 2 ай бұрын

Ex-Girlfriend looking like she's taking actual damage irl during the match vs Darkgenx in collision 23 is killing me Great video!!!

@n0lain 2 ай бұрын

30:35 That zero to death was naaaaasty

@demz0c_668 2 ай бұрын

hey ? I was wondering, does someone know where that final clip "there is so much more melee to be played" at big house comes from ? thanks

@RadikAlice Ай бұрын

You could say... _They Might Be Giants_

@RedSpXder64 Ай бұрын

Ah yes another documentary to watch late at night while mindlessly grinding another game.

@xxtyphlosionxx8122 2 ай бұрын

30 seconds in and i can tell its a banger video, thank you!

@johngold42 2 ай бұрын

39:00 I had seen so much giant melee that I thought this was actually normal melee 😂

@Controllerhead 2 ай бұрын

What a ridiculously delightful piece of media. I have ...severe reservations about calling a niche regional curiosity and 2 side events at Collision as a "Rise of Giant Competitive Melee" but gosh the video was so well done i'm just enjoying this insanity propaganda roller coaster ride of oddness. Never in my life did i expect to watch a full length feature film sh!tpost on Giant Melee but my god Rock on Donkey Kong Samox and keep doing you and i will surely keep watching 😂

@Jamm7 2 ай бұрын

Very good video, like how many cool clip there

@turndownforwalt 2 ай бұрын

🅱️ig 🅱️ideo

@wusstunes 2 ай бұрын

uge

@Darentei Ай бұрын

We had a special melee side tournament once in my local scene. Every single person, and I mean every last one, picked Peach in Giant Melee. I stuck with Link. And it was perhaps the easiest bracket I've ever played. Also the only Melee competition I've ever sorta won lol.

@penny1672 2 ай бұрын

damn now i need to watch more giant melee

@Shmeve0 2 ай бұрын

Amsa is my favorite melee player

@SkyanUltra Ай бұрын

this documentary is really cool but also holy shit chaka is rocking that fit at collision 2024 it's so cool

@chillinon3263 Ай бұрын

I don’t even play melee at all but this was captivating, great vid

@outplayboy Ай бұрын

18:36 i was not ready for this tag 😂

@brycephillips153 Ай бұрын

Incredible work

@torova9065 2 ай бұрын

Anyone know the song that starts at 15:52? Shazam doesn't know what it is :c

@jazzerjaw Ай бұрын

You and me both wanna know

@AutumnReel4444 2 ай бұрын

"Ice Climbers gets hard countered by Samus" Swaps off Samus immediately. Legit people just gotta not have any opinion when they are doing anything that hasn't been extensively developed.

@savedforlater7482 2 ай бұрын

I, for the life of me, cannot find the song that plays during that last match of the salty suite. I've checked the pastebin in the description and have come out of it with nothing but a headache.

@wusstunes 2 ай бұрын

its the space fisherman song

@princeofhalcyon Ай бұрын

Ive literally never heard of anyone even playing giant melee mode, I guess the video and youtube algorithm did its job

@namenamename390 Ай бұрын

9:23 for some reason my brain interpreted the platform as a gun pointed straight at Pichu

@wusstunes Ай бұрын

it does look like a gun out of context!

@vladfi1 2 ай бұрын

Whenever they show clips of regular gameplay it looks like tiny melee.

@freeformboozler 2 ай бұрын

Giant smash is truly something special, it's like having smash 4 rage turned on at all times, and from the very little I've played in slippi it's addictive at times!

@mario4154 2 ай бұрын

Jumpscare... Fantastic video though. Melee is so sick. Thank you for covering such a fun and niche part of it.

@corbinallen4562 Ай бұрын

I saw some of your sonic the fighters content and i was wondering if you knew any good character guides online.

@wusstunes Ай бұрын

just join the discord and check out the character channels. im working on some educational material on the game rn.

@corbinallen4562 Ай бұрын

@@wusstunes will do thanks

@idontwantahandlethough Ай бұрын

whats the cel-shaded mod that some of these clips seem to be using? It looks awesome!

@wusstunes Ай бұрын

animelee!

@sunnyzett 2 ай бұрын

a blessed day when a wusstunes vid driops

@jazzerjaw 2 ай бұрын

Song at 15:50?

@MedK001 Ай бұрын

Watching Nicki lose every time he counterpicks FD and then continuing to counterpick FD was pain lol.

@Bunkgungle 2 ай бұрын

amazing video!!

@dabsol9137 Ай бұрын

what character and/or game is that at 7:10 ?

@karisasani7006 Ай бұрын

If of course we could see people get the giant variants into smash ultimate tournaments, the characters that would benefit more would of course be those with the comeback mechanics like sephiroth, lucario, and more since due to the increased weight and such they can actually get to where their comebacks are at in full swing