That 11/4 bar is the most heavy metal thing written. Some of these versions are particularly savage, almost like: the virgin's gonna die, all the maidens are gonna die, the whole village is gonna die... 😱😱😱😱
@rftuba3 жыл бұрын
Agreed and check this out kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fax3apOYq8jaf5s.html
@ImAnBoosterBaby3 жыл бұрын
@Alex Tejada Why so judgemental?
@ejb79693 жыл бұрын
He's being very defensive. You'd think he feels threatened for some reason. Heavy metal is a fair description, if anachronistic. But Stravinsky was clearly out to kick ass in this one.
@ImAnBoosterBaby3 жыл бұрын
@Alex Tejada Actually, you are right. Comparing any western classical music, with it's history of male and white supremacy, it's elitism and it's completely outdated, ancient restrictions of limited theory can, under no view point, compare to the rich culture the americas have produced over the years. And to think that so much wonderful art has come from there, even through the hardships of colonialisation, slavery, segragation, exploitation, apropriation etc. is truly a pathetic comparison to this ok'ish piece of ballet. The artform just struggles to bring this emotion to the stage per se. It really isn't stravinsky's fault, he just was born in the wrong century, in the wrong country. But who knows, maybe some metal bands listened to his music and were inspired to do better....
@KR-mm4el3 жыл бұрын
@Alex Tejada agreed
@johnfowler76603 жыл бұрын
@ 0:56 I don't ever recall seeing choreography in an orchestra before. After the shock, I kind of liked it.
@jefolson69893 жыл бұрын
Added to the strangeness
@ImAnBoosterBaby3 жыл бұрын
Had the pleasure of seeing Kristian Järvi with the Baltic Sea orchestra at the Elbphilarmonie, ironically also with Stravinsky, but the Firebird in that case. The whole concert was choreographed with most pieces having fluent transitions, composed by Järvi himself. It was outlandish and outstanding.
@highstimulation24973 жыл бұрын
love it. like a drum corps visual, but far far far less cheesy and meatheady.
@kieronmakwili12042 жыл бұрын
Also the Colombian Orchestra played the Rite of Spring a semitone higher than normal
@wormswithteeth3 жыл бұрын
Stravinsky conducting: *I'm just vibing*
@semhak3 жыл бұрын
I wish Stravinsky could see this. To see his music celebrated and performed so absolutely furiously and with such earthly spirit. Especially hearing recordings from his time when orchestras clearly weren't ready for his music.
@harounel-poussah69362 жыл бұрын
He did : he only passed in the early 70's.
@tidnid18693 жыл бұрын
The Colombia youth orchestra take the cake - they are incredible
@jasonc52393 жыл бұрын
Those staccato timpani mallets in San Francisco are intense! Also, the Colombia Youth Orchestra is rocking it!
@matthewv7893 жыл бұрын
David Herbert (on the right, who later left for Chicago) is incredible. I’ve always loved that performance from the proms (more intense than their own video from back home). Among these, besides Orozco-Estrada (the Colombians!!!!) I thought Bernstein/LSO and Salomon/LAPO were incredible, with MTT/SFS and Gatti/Concertgebouw also particularly good among the slightly more sedate interpretations (relatively speaking).
@Theloniouspunk13 жыл бұрын
Hearing Stravinsky as conductor is very cool.
@camillehocde81953 жыл бұрын
And also very ear raping because this performance was awful
@fredericchopin64453 жыл бұрын
yea but stranvinsky isn’t very good as a conductor
@harounel-poussah69362 жыл бұрын
@@camillehocde8195 : mostly due to terrible recording gear from 1929.
@domeonce90063 жыл бұрын
National youth Orchestra of Colombia~1:00. The ENTIRE ORCHESTRA is FLAILING, almost out of their seats! Plus I like the thing the strings were doing with their bows building up to the first blast! The power and energy of YOUTH!!
@schneiderFFF3 жыл бұрын
I don't think i have counted to 11 in 9 minutes this many times
@IceOfPhoenix883 жыл бұрын
That youth orchestra performance was the most intense
@erringman3 жыл бұрын
I like the Stravinsky version, you can really hear the rests and the details of the orchestration that are lost when it's played faster. I'd like to hear a modern orchestra take an energetic approach at that tempo.
@maxwellhanks4751 Жыл бұрын
The silence at 6:53 is like no other, I feel some of the others seem to rush straight into the section.
@alexpaxton13363 жыл бұрын
I could watch orchestra clip comparisons all day. Faves were Bernstein and Salonen
@mrclean0973 жыл бұрын
This is such an incredibly cool compilation! As an HS orchestra director, I'm always trying to get my students to listen critically to different interpretations of the same piece, so they "see" there's not just one way to play something. I will be sharing this with them. Thank you so much!
@christianbaldiniofficial3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm delighted to hear this. If you enjoy this compilation, I can also recommend this (Beethoven) one, which your students might appreciate too: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/otqqish_3rK7nmw.html
@mrclean0973 жыл бұрын
@@christianbaldiniofficial Excellent! Thank you!
@design70543 жыл бұрын
Jesus H Christ, the Bernstein one takes it on the visuals. Terrifying.
@richardwilliams4732 жыл бұрын
The timpani playing from the San Francisco Symphony is outstanding!!!
@detectivehome33182 жыл бұрын
Agreed!!
@kaleidoscopio52 жыл бұрын
Bernstein is the man.....he just went into the craziness of the piece with no fear 😁
@dieterammann43 жыл бұрын
Although I very much appreciated the collaboration with Gergiev and especially with Pierre Boulez, the first place here goes to the National Youth Orchestra of Colombia.
@metalheadjock35133 жыл бұрын
Yes, their ferocity was AMAZING. I've adored this piece since 1988. Violent, chaotic, abstract. I completely agree with you. Would love to see the entirety of their choreography.
@dieterammann43 жыл бұрын
@@metalheadjock3513 Yes, the visual element would certainly be an exciting additional aspect in the live concert- situation.
@Matthew-nv2wy2 жыл бұрын
Yes, sir!
@AtlantaMusicCritic3 жыл бұрын
Great compilation. The National Youth Orchestra of Columbia is aggressive and untamed! Loved it.
@adrianpavlov78453 жыл бұрын
To me, most convincing from the rhythmic and energetic point of view are Bernstein, Salonen, and Tilson Thomas. The transition to the last dance in their interpretations happens the most natural way.
@jmwoods190 Жыл бұрын
I think Jaap Van Zweden's rendition isn't far behind either!
@misterchrissy Жыл бұрын
those 3 were my pick as well.
@Bobbnoxious3 жыл бұрын
I had the pleasure of seeing both Michael Tilson Thomas and Pierre Boulez perform this piece with the Los Angeles Philharmonic during the1980s. Boulez was probably the only conductor in the world who could get through it without breaking a sweat.
@Olivier-Jaquet Жыл бұрын
For me Boulez really nails it especially in terms of tempo change and timpani volume during the heavy beat part. But Boulez had the advantage of being one of Stravinsky's best friend and spent much time with him so it makes sense he could really capture what the maestro wanted.
@Emilien-hy3sy10 ай бұрын
Orozco-Estrada and the youth orchestra of Colombia are by far the best, definitely unparalleled
@Mur4dMusic3 жыл бұрын
It's a bit sad that Stravinsky's recording is the worst among these. He probably couldn't get what he wanted from the orchestras of that time :(
@JonathanSao3 жыл бұрын
The orchestral instrument of that age was what he know. Maybe, all others just run and not feel "the glorification".
@Geoff_Tuba_UK3 жыл бұрын
Early days of audio recording directly on to a wax master. Technology in those days was limited and costly. Each performer had to be within 20 inches of the recording device. 100 musicians! Bit crowded me thinks.
@camillehocde81953 жыл бұрын
Well in fact, Stravinsky was a very bad conductor, the musiciens were just completely lost because having a conductor who cannot clearly lead you in a piece that crazy is just awful
@TheVoitel3 жыл бұрын
No, Stravinsky just wasn’t a particularly good conductor. There is a more modern recording by Stravinsky done in a big series with the Columbia Symphony Orchestra. Which is an interesting thing, because you see that Stravinsky does somethings very different to most renditions, particularly he spaces the music unevenly. But regarding the rendition there are multiple versions here I would not take over the Stravinsky. My personal favorite is the Les Siècles/Roth rendition.
@barney68883 жыл бұрын
@@TheVoitel Roth is one of the great conductors of our day
@jamiepastman55943 жыл бұрын
if it's too fast it loses it's weight. stravinsky's version tempo shows it was important to him not to rush it
@JohnJApanovitch3 жыл бұрын
Stravinsky made even the most odd time signatures sound like a horror film. 11/4 is something you don't really see, but it's evident here. 11 quarter notes, one huge dynamic. Great job to these orchestras (and pianists)! :)
@fingerhorn47 ай бұрын
ALL of these recordings are great performances (well, nearly all) and what is evident is that variety is essential, so I think it is pointless to say which one is "best". Also we only hear one limited section so there will be strengths and weaknesses in other sections we are not hearing. I must have seen/heard this piece live and recorded at least a hundred times and each performance brings something fresh. Of course the acoustics of each venue is also really important and can sway opinions as much as differences in pace, balance and conducting styles.
@nogo40228 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this, my favorite orchestral piece. I had the pleasure (and frustration) of singing under Stravinsky (Symphony of Psalms) a million decades ago & found him a really confusing conductor. It was so interesting to see those same head-scratchers in the Stravinsky conducted piece. His other recordings of the same pieces often really differ from year to year…almost as though he’s making edits to his own music throughout his long career. No matter. Le Sacre changed music, dance & theater forever & I love him for this.
@gerrittpols81313 жыл бұрын
Pity there’s no performance with Seiji Ozawa in this compilation. IMO the performance with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra is the absolute pinnacle.
@AlexSzell Жыл бұрын
It really is! Best recording ever of TROS!
@Nuxunumo3 жыл бұрын
That moment when you realize Bernstein conducted them score-less 🐐🐐
@khinthan29233 жыл бұрын
Yeh. Also Simon rattle.
@GrumpyStormtrooper3 жыл бұрын
I want to see the Rite of spring live. My local philharmonic doesn't play this music, I'll have to travel somewhere.
@kiltlvr3 жыл бұрын
Martha Argerich kicking ass on the piano affixes her goddess status.
@Ekkie1012 жыл бұрын
I understand that Stravinsky presented the piece to the head of the Paris Music Conservatory (or something along those lines) in a piano reduction played by him and Claude Debussy.
@jamestierney25312 жыл бұрын
Get it on. Bang a gong (or whatever else you can find) but whatever you do, don’t miss this amazing collage of/homage to this breathtaking masterpiece. Fasten your seat belt…it’s going to be a bumpy ride.
@isa5104 Жыл бұрын
Loved Mikko Franck. The frantic tempo makes it feel like you can’t catch a full deep breath, which I feel really adds to the experience of the listener. It’s like 11 aural slaps to the face lol
@BucurEST19892 жыл бұрын
Wow. Mad love to all the musicians making the world a better day. Favorite
@StyrofoamCancer3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interesting comparison. My previous favorite performances were Gergiev and Dudamel, and after a blind listen, probably still are. Going to have to check out Esa-Pekka Salonen's full recording now though, so cohesive!
@este.bahn923 жыл бұрын
Why does nobody like Rattle? He's got the cleaner sound imo
@kimsteel3663 жыл бұрын
I like Rattle's version very much. Clean articulation and high energy/intensity without it going overboard.
@matthewmosca50023 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting together this marvelous compilation, illustrating the different approaches to this, the most shocking piece of music ever composed! [my opinion there!!] Loved it! Of course, having been first exposed to the Rite of Spring through Disney's Fantasia [1940] I envisioned the arrival of the Tyrranosaurus Rex!
@jakebaker105110 ай бұрын
The theatrics at 1:00 sold it for me
@radudeATL3 жыл бұрын
Bach Beethoven Brahms are cool and all. But this is right up my alley!
@harounel-poussah69362 жыл бұрын
Same for me!
@harri26263 жыл бұрын
What a splendid comparison, thank you. I suppose it was the poor recording quality in 1928, but the Stravinsky version was the least satisfactory. His timing just seemed wrong..... but he should know! For me, it has to be the Bernstein/LSO version which crackles with life.
@jackko90MI3 жыл бұрын
How can you say Stravinsky itself timing is wrong. The guy conceived the piece in thr first place. Maybe it's you that are too used with faster interpretations.
@2piee Жыл бұрын
@@jackko90MI Stravinsky was an amazing composer but a terrible conductor
@owlcowl Жыл бұрын
@@2piee He became a better one over the years, but never a great one, even for his own works. The irony of this slow 1929 performance is that later on he was always urging musicians to play his compositions at a faster tempo, crisp and dry, and complained that most conductors played them too slow. So this laggard first recording of the Rite is entirely due to the technical shortcomings of the players he had to work with. His earlier programming of the piece on piano rolls uses a faster tempo than we are used to hearing, especially in the closing Sacrificial Dance, which runs at nearly twice the speed customarily used in 20C recordings, including the composer's own! He couldnt play it as fast as he wanted to (no one could at the time) but he could program it mechanically for posterity and all top orchestras can now perform it as Stravinsky originally heard it in his head.
@user-wp4ju4hp5w9 ай бұрын
At 6:09 we see David Herbert playing timpani for the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra who went on to play for the Chicago Symphony Orchestra now
@jonathanfinney78213 жыл бұрын
I watched all of these; saw one where the conductor was actually helpful, especially in the 11/4, conducting small precise beats, with no grandstanding. Looked to see who it was, and it was you, CB.
@Bugleur3 жыл бұрын
Colombia, Les Siècles and London for me it's the three best !
@leer42774 жыл бұрын
Nice! I love this, so much passion! also, I promise myself to never, ever downplay the bass drum again! I love it, who cares if it's the most simple of instruments, it also has a lot of boom!!!
@rnhtube3 жыл бұрын
I consider this piece of music to be a bass drum and alto flute concerto
@rickythe2nd633 жыл бұрын
Sacre bleu! The story of the premiere is as wild, crazy and deliciously weird as the bombastic, rambunctious music itself!
@novagerio92443 жыл бұрын
Roth's was a surprise; the "Zäsur" before the 11/4, and the Tam-tam glissando, wich for once was audible!
@padredemishijos123 жыл бұрын
My preference is Gustavo Dudamel and the Simon Bolivar Youth Orchestra followed by Orosco Estrada and the Colombian Youth Orchestra.
@py8554 Жыл бұрын
The youth from the two orchestras gave the most energy.
@antoniovisioli44603 жыл бұрын
Bellissimo e intelligentissimo video. GRAZIE!!!!!
@jamesmcleish69903 жыл бұрын
Esa Pekka Salonen takes the cake for sure
@flimi3 жыл бұрын
The Bernstein clip brings out the brute force of the piece as the best. The Roth clip is unfortunately too fast, for no reason.
@rnhtube3 жыл бұрын
The faster the better. This part is supposed to be frenzied and chaotic.
@IceOfPhoenix883 жыл бұрын
When the music is modern you have recordings of the composer himself conducting.
3 жыл бұрын
LA Philharmonic with Esa-Pekka Salonen rocks🤘
@Volt100C3 жыл бұрын
the rest in François-Xavier's version is so cool!
@pearlchan444 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot !
@srothbardt2 жыл бұрын
And the winner is....Esa-Pekka Salonen, followed by Michael Tilson Thomas, Semyon Bychkov, and Lenny (poor sound prevents his from being on top).
@urswaechter3 жыл бұрын
No doubt: Andrés Orozco-Estrada is the best!
@Balfour.3 жыл бұрын
Most cringiest performance ever
@tiekoe3 жыл бұрын
Lol, use your ears, not your eyes
@Balfour.3 жыл бұрын
@@tiekoe sure, that's what they told to the audience in the theatre lol
@tiekoe3 жыл бұрын
@UCmzNI7K3TDiyXpRLhEeAIIw I'm agreeing with you Balfour, relax haha
@Balfour.3 жыл бұрын
@@tiekoe oh sorry XD
@douglashernandez3316 Жыл бұрын
3:20 the best
@tonyrowe47013 жыл бұрын
so happy I have 11 fingers :)
@stevoglez3 жыл бұрын
I like Stravinsky’s version, sounds primitive and retrograde, the string section is specially good
@cjrr1243 жыл бұрын
Bernstein and Salonen.
@PhilistineTheArtLuvr Жыл бұрын
It seems as if everyone upped the tempo except for Stravinsky himself!
@soliduswas7 ай бұрын
Salonen with the LA Phil will always be the definitive play through for me. It’s great to see so many interpretations - but no one nails the transition as smoothly, and maintains the rhythm’s urgency. While Mikko plays at an exciting speed, I can’t help but feel such speed lacks a nuance or gets ahead of itself. Slower interpretations like Bernstein, while powerful and dramatic, lack the energy (brought on by such large breaks) to invest me.
@louisemccarthy11102 жыл бұрын
Columbia Youth Orchestra - Fantastic stuff!! King Kong is coming for the virgin.
@vacuumlover1 Жыл бұрын
Dudamel is my favorite, but I’m Biased. He’s an idol of mine
@LordHaveMercy3 жыл бұрын
Salonen wins
@joycedelrosario22182 жыл бұрын
0:57 So Intense!!
@QuizKid4 ай бұрын
There is a certain kind of strong menace to this part when played a bit slower. Like the Simon Rattle version.
@highstimulation24973 жыл бұрын
3rd one, trippy thing they do with their bows there....
@ASclassical Жыл бұрын
please could someone send me the full version of Salonen?
@ubipatumbi Жыл бұрын
No doubts...the author's version...
@sivadepilif3 жыл бұрын
Bernstein timing by far.
@Freun2 жыл бұрын
1:09 is it just me or that the violinist expression is funny when the violinists played the hard piece
@ikmarchini3 жыл бұрын
from a conductor. Stravinsky takes it the slowest, and much like the printed score, a conductor must start there. It seems the later the recordings the faster it gets. Roth is going to miss his train. Oddly, when Stravinsky did it again in 1961 he was more middle of the road tempo. I certainly believe in 1929 he could at least have gotten the tempo he wanted, even with his bad technique and a struggling orchestra. And he uses the score, but his head is not in it like some here. That said, it remains concert music and is not really understood outside of the choreography. It was written as a collaboration and it all of a sudden makes sense - concerts are just a partial view. Check this - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oNVkpslj3LqUp4k.html
@RogerioDec3 жыл бұрын
None of the samples follow the original recording time of Stravinsky himself ... why?
@user-bi3jh1yd7r3 жыл бұрын
いつも最初に確認するところだ。
@jojeda11242 ай бұрын
What are the groupings for the 5/8, 9/8 and 7/8 bars?
@vinylisland6386 Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7SPftllpr7Niok.html Markevitch is immaculate and powerful without making an enormous ritardando and then accelerating, which seems to be the usual trick/mistake.
@harounel-poussah69362 жыл бұрын
Andrés Orozco-Estrada, National Youth Orchestra of Colombia : the Rite, high on cocaine!
@sebastian94452 жыл бұрын
Imagine if some actually started a riot mid-performance to makemore realistic LOL
@mrshovelbottom74752 жыл бұрын
they took down the rite of spring with andres :(
@icebearisicebear3 жыл бұрын
REPETITION LEGITIMIZES
@RaulLopez-bu8yk3 жыл бұрын
And where i stay Vladimir Fedoseyev
@jefolson69893 жыл бұрын
So....do we trust the composer's own recording to be the way he wanted it to sound?
@ejb79693 жыл бұрын
Not the 1929 version - the orchestra is simply not up to it.
@owlcowl Жыл бұрын
Not this early one for sure. As noted by the previous reply, the musicians couldnt handle it. Stravinsky recorded it three more times with better orchestras & better technology. But perhaps the best document of the way he originally wanted it to sound is the pianola roll he programmed in the early 1920s, only a decade after its composition, in which the basic lines are clearer, given the lack of instrumental color, and most significantly it employs a much faster tempo in the closing Dance Sacral, almost double the speed at which it was customarily played for decades, including in the composers own versions (it was challenging enough for musicians in the slower rendition). The breakneck tempo on the rolls was first adopted for performance by Benjamin Zander in his 1990 recording with the Boston Philharmonic, with truly sensational results.
@sebastiantorres25423 жыл бұрын
Extraordinario salonen, pero Bernstein es a mi entender el mejor de todos
@TheTromboneChannel3 жыл бұрын
looks like someone got the memo.
@edwardszczapow36342 жыл бұрын
Bernstein rules! Wise Old Jew... I love him version💓
@guidepost423 жыл бұрын
IMHO the youth orchestras play it best. I suppose their hormones are still on the boil.
@an-asteraceae3 жыл бұрын
They're frying. I love it!
@sidosoft3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I also noticed this.
@sammorgan95263 жыл бұрын
Rite of spring on 2 pianos sounds like legend of Zelda BOTW music
@harounel-poussah69362 жыл бұрын
Probably the contrary : the Rite is 100+ years old
@OsakaJoe013 жыл бұрын
Piano-wise, I like the Jussen brothers rendition the best. Too bad it didn’t make the cut...
@romulo-mello Жыл бұрын
Either Stravinsky`s conception is very different from the modern ones, or the old orchestra was really bad
@fredericlinden3 жыл бұрын
In every aspect of the score, from beginning to end, you must listen to this one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iLKCY8p5zarHe5c.html
@JonathanSao3 жыл бұрын
The latin ones running like salsa like stuff. :/
@adrianomondini87959 күн бұрын
Dov'è Claudio Abbado ? Insieme a Bernstein per sono le versioni migliori.