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Very happy to hear that you both own and enjoy the plugin. Thank you for sharing your experiences. Allow me to clarify on some things brought up here: "I tested it against gclip (free plugin) hard clipping its exactly the same, they null." This is great news. That's exactly what they should be doing when hard clipping. You can also get limiters like Ozone to null on hard clipping too, with specific settings. This doesn't mean they're broken. It just means that they're rendering hard clipping correctly. "And when you put it at 95% and the other one softer at 5% when you flip the phase you only hear noise and its really really low in volume." Clipping is fundamentally not going to sound drastically different, unless a creator has specifically injected an artificial 'enhancement' curve. We could do this very easily to fool the 'null-testers' into thinking the plugin is doing something radically different, but that would serve no purpose for the professional mastering engineers looking for transparency and world class maximization - which this plugin was primarily designed for. Mastering is a game of 0.1% changes making all the difference. My suggestion is that, rather than null-testing, to simply use your ears and listen for the musical qualities of the material being processed. This results in a far more relevant comparison for day to day use. This is why we provide a free demo, so that people can decide for themselves whether Flatline is their right tool, before they commit to anything. Thanks again for sharing your experiences.

But flatline sounds cleaner, almost no harshness, and I can get to white pony levels. Gclip hurts my ears at half the gain reduction of flatline.

@@VVVY777 if thats what you feel go ahead :) I think its the opposite, but everyone has different ears. I also use flatline.

Is it because there's no AA filter when the waveform is converted from analog back to digital?

That's not true. Every halfway decent analog to digital stage must have a filter to keep out frequencies higher than the Nyquist frequency of the digital stage. If you're sampling at 44.1KHz, you gotta have a filter that keeps out frequencies higher than 22.05KHz (half the sample rate). Since filters aren't perfect, they are designed, most of the time, to filter out 20KHz and higher. That's why 44.1KHz was chosen: to give a clean 20Hz to be 20KHz frequency response in the understanding that inexpensive filters would often be used. I'm quite surprised that this plugin offers only up to 4x oversampling. Even if higher wouldn't always be used, it's pretty silly not to at least offer the oversampling rates (many offer up to 128x) that would be necessary to prevent all audible aliasing. It's an expensive plugin, you can't not at least offer it. If it's detrimental in some way, explain how ("too much CPU" is not a valid explanation, especially as processors get faster and have more cores).

Would also love a readout of the new wave post clipping. Seeing pre vs post peaks would be amazing

Heck, I already own flatline. Would pay for a "premium" version

I'm a big fan of the default 'Warm', and in the recent version the 'Linear Phase' mode is excellent at not over-congesting the mid-bass frequencies!

I used KClip 2 extensively, and am good friends with Shane. He makes great plugins.

@@SystematicProductions is it a bit different compared to Flatline?

Absolutely, they sound quite different. You can test them for yourself and hear it.

Everything on their website

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@@SystematicProductions not enough for a student like me man, sorry. Thats where neural dsp and ggd makes it easier. even fab filter has 50% off for students. But respect 🤘. Your mastering is awesome.