Oliver Cromwell Did Nothing Wrong I’m not muscled to handle it. Even if the weapons still could. Let’s go at ‘im with a pointed stick!

Oliver Cromwell Did Nothing Wrong so kind of like the legion from fallout new Vegas ?

@@thegardenofesim1174 Ballistic shield with a submachine gun would be more effective

Cromwell was great.

Apparently, you have no idea how long it takes to learn to use these tools.

but we dont.

+Demon from the Mud We do but when we say roman history we usually talk about the ancient side of history.

So we don't.

also geographically

the byzantines obviously were Roman and should also count as that so yes they did last that long. and no they didn't just become non Roman because they changed there way of doing things

To add to what you said. They adopted and evolved the Spanish gladius and Spanish pilum for themselves also. They did invent Lorica Segmentata armor themselves though.

Holy pasta of perdition, you're right. I just read this comment and it made me think about... Tamriel. The Elder Scrolls. The Imperials are stated as being the best at getting along with the other races, hence their ability to unify them without bloody conquest. And... I just realized, from reading your comment here, just how much of that Bethesda derived from history. Not just the basic appearance, but the whole "adopt and unify" thing.

@@Archone666 I'm pretty sure all of the human empires were created through bloodshed, bro.

@@apalsnerg every nation we know today was created in war and blood. It's not beautiful, but it's how the world works.

@@thesenate5913 While I agree with you, what the fuck does that have to do with The Elder Scrolls?

+Nr One Chilean Thank you for watching and I am glad I was helpful ^^

+Metatron isn't the roman shield too heavy to be held with on grip?

+Metatron Are you sure that the scutum was 10 kg? That's almost triple the weight of a viking period shield that has multiple layers of linen.

Saif Ali Khan they were trained

Weeeena quliao... Un compatriota tan lejos .

No

You are the only one

I saw that too, massive fan of lord of the rings 😀 typical kiwi haha

@@thelonelyelite1 no I also noticed that

+Lupyrius Thank you very much, I am glad you do :D

The alt timeline where Jesus lives on as a historian talking about his roman friend's shield.

+Ted Striker Well thank you very much for that kind sir ^^

+lancer D Hey there, thank you very much. In Theory I know that rule, but I always end up forgetting it when I am in front of a camera. Thank you for reminding me, I will keep it in mind next time ;)

Metatron No worries, I know English is hard, and yours is really, really good. The only errors you make are very tiny things like that that don't prevent you from being understood at all, they just act as a clue that you aren't a native speaker. Your English is more than good enough, and I normally wouldn't think it was worth mentioning, but I figured that as a linguist you'd probably be interested in stuff like that, so don't worry about it too much, just keep making awesome videos.

lancer D ahah ok thank you so much I appreciate ^^

yes .. i enjoyed the free university lecture as well .....

+edi Ok I will :D Roman history is fascinating and all it's periods have so much to say ^^

+kevin rodriguez Thanks Kevin :D

+jaocheu I am 176cm so I am not too much taller than that I suppose ^^

+b33lze6u6 ahah thanks you so much :D

Metatron 10 cm thick (at 8:16)? Are you sure? Just the material or does that include the curvature (measured from the top middle)? It just seems immensely thick and that would make it very heavy.

I have double checked that mesurement and I have read it on a relieble article but I will see if I can see other refering to it, like university professors and such. I ment the thicknes of all the layers but you have to consider it's not just wood, it's three layers of wood, one of linen and one of leather plus painting. Also I have to double check they didn't mean the part which includes the metal, or even the umbo I'll let you know.

Metatron I did a bit of research myself and the thickest I could find was 16 mm, with a range from 12 to those 16. I'm not disputing your sources or your knowledge of the subject but I did take out my measuring tape and it really seems humongous! Anyway, great video as always, dude!

HeavyMetalDude26 ok thank you very interesting ^^ No it's good you tell me that because it helpm me double and triple check sources and learn more :3 As I always say " for all you learn from me I learn twice as much from you guys in the comments :D"

Marco Bressan Yes, he is indeed.

He is

He is. From Sicily I guess...

He's like the archetype of a southern Mediterranean Italian.

You are seeing it. Metatron is an institution himself.

like angling armor on a tank, more likely to richochet.

+Veltins Pilz ahahah it happens to me to sometimes xD

+Eska Quassi i think he said 10 cm deep

I remember 17 cmif i remember good from polibius description

yes i immediately thought the same when i imagined to lift 10 kgs with only your shoulder strenght. I do some home workout and i use 10 kgs only for about 20 or 30 repetitions.

+the Creative Assembly machinimas Yes they must have been very fit ^^

the Creative Assembly machinimas Me too LOL. I can't imagine keeping it in position and moving around for 30min while someone keeps hitting or kicking it.

+edi you must be some kind of super trained Rambo to do that. They probably had necks and shoulders like bulls only to be able to use those shields.

the Creative Assembly machinimas Or imagine the late middle age doing an obstacle course in full armor (stairs, above small walls, over hills, puddles of mud, laying down and getting up again and THEN do sparring). I am pretty sure it was done, just as some training weapons were heavier than the actual weapons to achieve intensive training.

its just a wild guess, but possibly from here: 4 years ago your comment, but maybe i still could helped you out. facebook.com/FabricaCacti/

+Swol BrohamLincoln Hey there good to see you again in the comments :D I play total war but only Rome and Napoleon is Attila good? :)

Metatron oh yea man yo should definately buy it playing as Western Roman empire has to be the hardest campaign i ever played in a total war game lol

+coalikesdesi I would say absolutely not, in the middleages they had better armour, and better cavalry but then again there are so many points to make that I think you have just inspired a full video xD

+Metatron I do hope you make a video like that- it sounds like wonderfully inspired content.

+coalikesdesi As a rule of thumb later armies always win over their predecessors even if they appear to be less equipped. Most important factors for victory are, training, supply, ease of maintenance, tactical leadership, and least but not last clear strategic objective that coincides with a viable political solution. Superior equipment doesn't cut the mustard as long as the inferior side has something functional.

The difficulty with answering that question is first determining exactly which type of Roman army showed up to the battle with theoretical enemy from the dark or Middle Ages. I’d say that without any real innovation that a Roman Army of the late republic or early empire would have no problems whatsoever in dispatching a Viking, Saxon or Norman army of equivalent size. However by the high Middle Ages technology of armour and the sophistication of cavalry had evolved significantly. Then even a Scipio or Caesar would be in real trouble if he turned up with 4 legions of that age supported by Numidian or Gallic-Germanic Calvary of that era. However, that simply ignores the underpinning Roman philosophy of warfare - namely a preparedness to adopt from your enemies everything that is accessible, useful and perhaps better than what you currently have. The true genius of Rome over that 1200 year span (or at least a good proportion of it) was that they were great adopters and adapters. A close study of the aftermath of the epic Roman defeats demonstrates that within a decade that the Roman military had learnt from the various disasters, adapted the useful parts from their enemies, transformed their Ramy or navy and came back to annihilate their enemy. Furthermore, by the middle republic Rome had already started a process of contracting out various ancillary functions to auxiliary allies and mercenaries: most notably cavalry, but also various ranged weapons units such as Cretan archers, Beleriac slingers, various skirmishers, mobile horse Calvary-infantry units like the Ubii and Batavians etc. The first things theoretical Caesar or Scipio would have noticed once they stepped out of the TARDIS with their legionary army and into the Middle Ages was the armour and advances in ranged weaponry. Immediately they would have hired Welsh Bowmen instead of Cretans and would have entered into negotiations with the various Dukes and other Lords that were ‘the enemy of my enemy’ to provide the Cavalry. At a stroke most of the difficulties that Metatron has highlighted have been addressed. While the armour and weapons of the heavy infantry of the legions was not of the same standard as those of the Middle Ages, but the armour and weaponry of the Middle Ages was not without its own problems. Essentially mobility had been sacrificed for protection. This provided particularly troublesome at battles like Agincourt. In fact I reckon that the Roman Caligula - even though it offered zero protection - would have been far superior to the footwear worn on that sodden and muddy field. Replacing the Scutum with a smaller Steel shield of similar design and weight (say 10-12kg of steel plate, curved in the Roman fashion but only 70-80cm high as a weight saving) in combination with the addition of a grieve on the shin of the left leg and a segmented steel sleeve on the right arm would have afforded the legionary the right amount of protection without compromising mobility and union cohesion. Swapping out the gladius for a similar sized weapon that could scone the enemies helmet, but also with a spike at the end to thrust into the visor slit would complete the deal. A legion armed and armoured thus would seriously fuck up a similar sized Middle Ages army I reckon.

+Vizzlemeister A similar concept was implemented by the Romans, not so much by mixing different kinds of wood but differenciating the thickness of the wood as to diminish the overall weight by thickening the wood only in the centre of the shield, similarly to what armourers in the middleages did with plate

u have to know that in a battle with people in formation u cant move so freely to slash and when there is a shield wall in front of u i cant see how can you slash when the shield of the other person is covering him pretty well showing off only his knees and the head with the neck back in the days the most unprotected places of someone are knees neck and little lower under the stomach area if you know what i mean these places were the most unprotected with armor places so there is no point of slashing hitting the armor and doing no damage just making your mates feel unprotected from all the moves you are doing in a 1 on 1 fight there is bigger chance of slashing and still in a formation ....i dont think so

Ivan Petrov That's just it, a Roman Legion wasn't meant to go face to face, they were about maximizing speed in formation to outflank. They were not as jam-packed together like a phalanx or a shield/spear wall in general was. They might not be far enough apart for huge slashes, they probably did have to go face to face fighting and I'm sure their were times stabbing would be a very good thing. But you have to look at each phase of the Roman Republic or Empire at it's own time and be analytical of all the evidence, not taking anyone's word for it. The only surviving rectangular roman shield is narrower and more curved, almost identical in geometry to Trajan's column, and they are holding it completely differently.

Ivan Petrov I will correct myself on the grip, sort of. In earlier mentioned surviving antique, The piece of wood that is pegged in to the shield as a grip has the sides where it is pegged narrower then the actual grip. The grip is at/inside the threshold of where the wood of the shield would have been if it were not removed. I did this to my shield and it tilts the weight of the top of the shield towards me with the weight consistently on my shoulder as apposed to my arm and wrist and gives me a very comfortable placement on the body as they do in Trajan's column.

+Alex Newson Hey there thanks for watching :D I haven't heard about it but it could just be me, I will have a look.

Many Cesarean legions used a bull as insignia as it was his official symbol

Did you find a way yet?

@@captainsandwhich7469 I'm afraid I have not yet.. I have formed a group of Latin speaking Australians though :) and a few of us are also learning wood working to learn how the shields are made.

@@serpentofares5635 Nice :)

@@serpentofares5635 how about online medieval stores?

@@captainsandwhich7469 mediaeval? Well Byzantium is pretty cool

+Adamast There are still so many videos I have to make about Rome ^^ It's already difficult to keep each video under 15 minutes xD

Bro the scutum was only on average 3 kilograms

nobody cares. stop trying to sound smart

+Anton V Ok thank you I will make sure to do that in the following videos (not next one because it's already made)