Dude. Pacman was a great add to the show

The Baltimore Ravens are always doing promotional things and Honors for their Former star players. The Ring of Honor, each home game there’s a former star that leads the team out on the field before the game. Half time honors and I’m not talking just about Ray Lewis and Ed Reed. I’m talking Haloti Ngata, Matt Stover, Jamal Lewis etc. Ravens have only been around since 96’ but they do a great job honoring past players.

Major universities do a great job of honoring tradition and past players/coaches, etc; it's a huge part of fundraising from alumni; UNC for one does an amazing job; it's a huge driver of team apparel as well. The college teams that do the best job with preserving tradition are most often leaders in team merchandise as well. It's also a huge billboard for recruiting, which begats more wins. Colleges that ignore their past glory do so at their peril.

I can definitely relate. I played, then coached at my high school. Once that era of players I coached were gone... I felt distant from the program I helped build. I haven't been to a game or practice in years. Just cause that connection isn't there anymore 😢

Packers have always been big on remembering greats. They always have former players at home games and I think Favre not being there much is more a Favre thing than a Packer thing.

Pacman and AJ...you'll always be Bengals to us. Regardless of how the team treats you. RIP SLIM

AJ Hawk: 'I still feel a connection to the building, but it's a new era.' PMS: 'Teams abandon their players.'

This is exactly why being a Pittsburgh Steeler fan is the greatest. The standard is the standard, going all the way back to Mean Joe. Those names and legacies from 50 fuckin years ago will never be forgotten in Steeler culture... Chuck Knoll Terry Bradshaw, Lynn Swann, John Stallworth, Joe Greene, Mike Webster, Jack Lambert, Jack Ham, Mel Blount. And they didn't stop there.. Bill Cowher, Troy Polamalu, James Harrison, Kevin Greene, Larry Foote Brett Kiesel, James Farrior Joey Porter, Heath Miller, Jerome Bettis, Casey Hampton Alan Faneca, Hines Ward, Bryant McFadden, Ike Taylor, Ryan Shazier... just to name a few. The Rooney family has curated a culture and legacy that cannot be understated and I believe was epitomized by Ben's farewell. I really can't describe the pride I take in being a Pittsburgh Steeler fan.

49ers do a great job of bringing back players and honoring the legacy

Green bay is so entrenched in history it will never "new team" the building. The history if you ever do a tour is insane. There is about a 15 ft long by about 4 ft wide section of bricks in the packs walk out tunnel that is from the original tunnel of the first actual stadium. Theres shrines of the old guys everywhere. The press section is very old school style. Hell the stadium itself still has bench seating through most the stands and one of the huge bath rooms is a massive troft the guys piss in. So its very much history based.

The journey means nothing if you can’t remember how you got there

Sounds exactly like what our government and country does to our veterans.. abandons them completely.. only our vets have it way worse and weren’t famous nor made millions of dollars playing a game in front of thousands of people..

Man, have always been a Longhorns fan, but WVU was my favorite team to watch in those days. The spread option they ran was so insane.

Just realized I only know 4 QBs in GB during my lifetime.Majkowski,Favre,Rogers,Love. I'm turning 52.

Wait why did Green Bay not have a parade after winning?

Got to get pat and owen on some time. Wvu fans haven't forgot what you guys did.

Honor your alumni instead of forgetting them. I believe that's what Pat is saying. .o

The part I feel sorry for the players about. At least here in australia in the NRL coaches and clubs cottonwool the players so much from 13-15 that they never grow up and become men. They have the most impressive physical attributes on earth but none of them become men, and they do it because boys to question the coach. Men will. But that kid that joins the Brisbane broncos at 14 and retired at 34. Well mentally he’s 14 and the real world hits em and the clubs aren’t interested in even talking to em. Just you’re off the books not our problem. Unless it’s an absolute legend of the team then they tend to get jobs for life in development or advertising or what ever. It’s hard to go from the NRL to real life. I imagine a similar thing happens in the nfl.

Great show! Love dudes being dudes and going sideways on topics.

That is messed up they painted over it in Indy!

Man I just realized that I've been confusing AJ Hawk with Clay Mathews this whole time 🤦😅😂

I think most of us Mountaineer fans want all of the legends back as much as possible. We miss winning.

Pacman will be a Bengal for life!

I cant wait for everything DB next season with PAC there as well! You have to bring back that segment next season!

As a packer fan, the team itself feels different, but the TEAM does not. The packers are always the Packers and AJ HAWK is always going to be a Packer and a great to us. The fans are what built the packers into the team they are known as now as well. Aaron will always be a packer, just like Brett. We understand the business of the sport, especially more so now with Aaron, so that doesn’t sting like the Brett trade. Aaron has said he loves the Packers as well. Lambeau is a special place and any player that wants to come back will be welcomed with open arms at any time.

As a part owner of the green bay packers...i can confirm packers dont forget their legends! Never will. Maybe visit their stadium and u will see for yourself....they honor history.

I will always love pats interview style. Ask 6 questions and then randomly “that’s a real question”

That is one thing that Stanford and the 49ers have always welcomed the former players to every event …all alums invited back. Ed MacCaffrey has been invited back to SF after even playing one year. That’s another reason CMC ended up with such an easy transition. He also has a locker at Stanford along with Luck, Sherman, etc…it’s great to see the pros come back to campus and workout occasionally ❤🌲🏈⚾️🏀🏐⚽️🎾⛳️

I think the Ravens should have Ray Lewis at every home game damn the cost. I have been at games when he is in the house. They show him and the roof goes off that place it is a shot in the arm like no other and to everyone on the shows point people like Ray have put these teams in the positions they are in.

Unitas got covered up?? Wtf

Well all of us MOUNTAINEER Fans will NEVER FORGET you guys!!! GREAT TIMES!!!!

Seahawks are amazing about bringing people back. Not only that players are wanting to come back. Seattle legends are constantly in the building. Maybe not Russ tho😅

I used to be a fan but couldn’t even tell you the last time I watch more than a highlight reel. Growing up I could tell you names of people in a team, but only a handful. I’m not trying to be rude. Heck, I don’t expect anyone to ever care who I am or even what I say in a comment. I can say this about WVU and most colleges for that matter… if they advertise for a specific player and they put his name on a jersey with his number, what happens when he decides to go pro at the last sec.? Or if he gets traded or injured? For them, they know the player has a shelf life. Even if he starts his first game as a freshman and plays till he graduates. It’s still a finite amount of time. These days guys don’t even bother with finishing a degree. They can do that after they make a few million and retire…for fun.. Add up how many players have gone through those locker room doors since you started playing there. Just players? How is a place suppose to stay in business with that many guys wanting to feel “special”? Now a pro that puts in a decade or more of work for that one team… yeah I guess he has some pull. But that pull is limited. But after a certain amount of time that welcome starts to run out, and that’s a guy who played with the same team from rookie to retiree. I know guys get hurt and screwed over. You have guys living off pain meds and there’s a conversation to be had about injuries a player received playing for a team, that leave them handicapped in some way and the roll an organization should have to help them. But, football is a sport that each player at that level should know comes with risks. The risk versus reward is up to each player. If a player feels like he isn’t being compensated for his risk he can bring that up, find a better deal with another team, or just quit. Unless your contract states it, you should not expect it. I signed a contract, I served 10 years. During that time I received a spine injury on the job and now I live with constant pain. They medically retired me and I became the VA’s problem. The way I got hurt was unexpected but it happens more than most know. As much as I didn’t want to leave I had no choice. My shop couldn’t expect me to just show up and hang out all day. In fact I went back to see a friend one day and I didn’t recognize anyone. Once the USAF medically retired me, my contract was void and I was no longer there problem. It stings, because you feel used. It’s hard to get past it. But it is what it is. I guess if your lucky as a player to have a long career or maybe help win a championship your able to hold onto some of that glory but only so much. At least in those cases you stamp your name in a history book. And of course all that money… setting your children up for a better life at the very least. My son will never get to see me at work or wearing my uniform. That gets to me sometimes, that and being told that because of my injuries I’m unemployable(a real classification by the VA). But I can’t stay focused on that sort of stuff. It’s not healthy. I’m surprised I never met you Pat. I partied pretty hard back home in WV. From Morgantown all the way to Clarksburg and everywhere in between before I decided to join the service. I was an OU fan though, first game I ever saw was in Okla back when the Boz was playing.

Dude, that's wrong if they painted over Johnny Unitas. If you're name is in the ring of honor at the stadium, their mural should be in the building. And new guys, work your butts off to try and be that.

The NFL is all business. Businesses don't care about tradition they only care about revenue stats. If you don't make the playoffs consistently and put asses in seats then a refresh is coming. Have a few year slump and it's getting gutted.

The Packers did the same with Favre

Packers are one of the best at honoring their former players.

Abandoning the Pat White era was all Holgorsen's doing, he was an ass. I had a friend who was an athletic training/sports science major and she got to work with the training staffs of all the big sports except football because he wouldn't let girls on the training staff around the players

Most of the new owners/conglomerates buying the teams don’t care about football, they care about money. They will still make money even if old players are not involved. Simple as.

Obv Pat hadn't been at Lambeau lol dude! The entire atrium as a shrine to the team and players, current and past!

Isn't this exactly what dion sanders did at Colorado? Everyone stood up and clapped for that. Every new regime believes they will be better than the last, not true very often.

The Packers have an alumni suite where ex-players can come and watch games.

Lol welcome to any workplace in the world 😂😂

Pacman act like he wasn’t a Titans first 😂

Brett Farve single handedly destroying a link in the chain..

Interested in why Pac Man Adam Jones had him in his Broncos gear for the thumbnail. Think he played one year there. Just very random

Giants are great with this, between LT,Tiki, Banks, and Eli they give the legends their roses

Eric Dickerson is an example. Its half-assed effort from the Rams

Cincy loves Pac.

The teams paid them $40 million and just abandoned them. Poor players.

Its crazy how favre and aaron didnt or dont like each other and they had the same career basically.

Players abandoning teams/fans for $$$$, two way street.

hopefully wren baker gets sht figured out at wvu and recognizes you all. alot of work to be done at wvu.

Pat Mcaffe needs to do his homework on this topic. Packers are always Honor the greats. And Ty knows this he should've checked them on that

I didnt think pacman was gonna be a good add but hes grown on me haha at first i was like "damn they have pacman as a guest again?" 😂

The Lions don’t just welcome them back into the building, they hire them onto the staff!

I actually watch less of the NFL because of this. Making a revolving face of franchises instead of respecting the legacy former players have built. Even to the extend of excluding players from coaching which is hilarious. These legends have forgotten more football than any of these assistants combined. (Generally)

PATT got that ESPN money and got a knew tank top 😂

Yoooooo Pat is proof that the Uni alumni scene is a nuclear wasteland.

What about the sad reality of players forgetting how to play the second they get paid?

Great show

Bummer PAC didn’t make it to Tahoe.

The millions and millions of dollars didn't transmit appreciation eh?

Leroy Butler is GB all-time leader in tackles (AJ is 2nd)

It’s literally a business with a bottom line and a budget. Teams have to dump guys that are asking for too much because winning rings and sustaining 10-15 years of success isn’t won with one guy asking for too much money. Dynasties are had and built by stacking good young cheap talent on rookie deals and then having team oriented veterans that are willing to restructure their contracts to get paid later if they have to so the team can constantly build the team. Tom Brady did it for like 10-15 years on the pats. Dude restructured his deals all the time so they could bring in guys like randy moss.

Rodgers always complaint about the veteran treatment but in fact i dont see another org dothe honoring of past players act better than Green Bay actually.

Idk if I missed it, but what do they want teams to do more of?

Great addition of Pac Man.

That's the law of the jungle...

I really appreciate Pat, but if we are talking about legacies, I should be clear as a man from Baltimore: there is no such team, and there never will be such a team, as "the Indianapolis Colts". It does not exist and never has. You may call them the Indianapolis Irsays if you absolutely wish, but I certainly wouldn't wish my team to be tainted with that name.

All-time leading scorer at WVU...also the guy that during the '07 Pitt game, botched two kicks from 20 and 32 yards, respectively, and cost his team a shot to play in the BCS championship.

Man the dana holgerson era was just dumb man

This is dumb lol I don’t like that the Rodgers era ended but I feel like the Pack did alright by him over the years with contracts that he got.

Y’all looking for a co-op wherein by working you become owners lol

ABANDONING YOUR FORMER PLAYERS... is Latin for "the Green Bay Packers."

The broncos owe Pac-Man something?

Unless you're a key franchise player owners could care less

Pat Mcafee...Caleb Presley. Make. It. HAPPEN!

Business… it’s a business… get over it 😅

Pat. I NEED YOUR HELP!!!!! ESPN shows highschool football games every year. This year there is history in the making. The #1 team in wins plays the #3 team in wins of ALL TIME. In Massillon Ohio the birth place of football. Please help me get this out to ESPN this should 100% be covered. First time in history

It’s a business

Oh yea......we got pat white......he can run he can gun it's a wonderful site....Steve s

Screw wvu we are Marshall

AJ will always be a Packer

“Abandoning” former players? The real question is for the players: What do you think the team owes you after your career? These teams are trying to move forward and win games and be successful, and that cannot be done while looking back. The former players aren’t being “abandoned”, they just can’t handle the fact that their playing days are done.

Businesses fire employees every day. Sometimes for no reason other than a salary dump. Suck it up, frat boys.

Pat doing push-ups while watching the baby?

It’s a business who cares people don’t trip if somebody demands a trade loyalty goes two ways

If someone is no longer helping generate profits, they are no longer needed.

PAC has the best wuts

Here’s a Packers fact I bet Ty doesn’t even know, maybe AJ doesn’t. George Papa Bear Halas had to FUND the Packers back in the day so that the bears could have a rivalry. George Halas kept the Packers lights on just to go whoop on em. Without Papa Bear their is no lambeau leap, no titletown, nothing. So when you speak on Da Bears, speak with some damn respect

3:20 SHITHOLE!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Yall get paid millions of dollars to play a childs game, stop crying all the damn time smh.

Can’t wait to see him run out at a WWE event. Lol

Wow so sad

You guys abandoned your fans. Hope the money was worth it

Guess what? My former employer’s don’t do a damn thing for me either. Imagine that

espn time

Pac-Man could still play

Players are a commodity. Use then discard.