That clone did not get access to the GI bill. But seriously the scene with Kenobi looking at a clone of the 501st, who massacred the Jedi at the temple, and still giving him credits out of kindness, hit different
@SsgtTucker2 жыл бұрын
Seeing that he was 501st tore me up.
@moderndemon842 жыл бұрын
I believe it was intentional.
@itsblitz44372 жыл бұрын
Well they are all lost ones now.
@levicarpenter5509 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is nice to see that obi knows that it isn't their fault
@NotNormal654 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think he looked back to order 66. The clone trooper reminded him of Anakin and the good times before order 66. I think Kenobi gave credits to the clone to thank him for his service to the Republic.
@grandinquisitor83352 жыл бұрын
I think the clone shows how much Vader changed from Anakin, the 501st was his men, friends, even family Anakin would never let his veterans be reduced to homelessness. But Vader would.
@s7robin1052 жыл бұрын
I'm sure he kept a few who were loyal but as time went on, as we see in bad batch, I think many also started to question what was going on, even with the chips some of them knew it was wrong.
@sanemaniac74162 жыл бұрын
@@night6724 i hate it too. Disney just took the "Evil space nazi" thing and sprinted away with it.
@jennparker54822 жыл бұрын
Only... it's not really a retcon. Before they became Legends, multiple books and stories made a point of mentioning Palpatine's xenophobia. In the original Thrawn books, Thrawn was an exception and one of the very few non humans who rose to power and favor. Sure Disney may have ramped it up, but it's not something wholly new.
@Mouse_Metal2 жыл бұрын
@@night6724 Well, the Republic wasn´t the Empire. Palpatine never cared about his apprentices, he just used them as tools. Hitler also made deals with non-Aryans when it was advantageous to him.
@grandinquisitor83352 жыл бұрын
That's only the tip of the iceberg, when you really think about the empire logically the entire story honestly falls apart ngl. I really dislike how "in your face" authoritarian they're in lore and on screen. Real life authoritarian governments were never this "in your face" they at least pretended that they cared about the greater good and had endless propaganda to keep control of the population but here they just forget you need to at least trick people into following their shitty ideology. To me the Fel Empire was infinity better and more sane than whatever palpatine was doing.
@Viperfish90002 жыл бұрын
"Help get a veteran a warm meal" So I probably didnt get the quote right but you get the idea, its soo awful to see a solider who was born into his cause with no choice, discarded for the thing he had complete blind loyalty for. Once a proud man and powerful and now a beggar on the streets and a low life, this scene almost makes you feel the forgiveness obiwan has for the trooper in you, as eventhough he probably helped kill the jedi you still feel sympathy knowing that he probably didn't have a choice.
@baki4842 жыл бұрын
You summed it up perfectly.
@Viperfish90002 жыл бұрын
@@baki484 cheers mate
@indianajones43212 жыл бұрын
Well said
@thechroniclegamer42852 жыл бұрын
Either he was garrisoned on that planet with another 501st detachment (but where are the others?) Or he fled there in search of work and found nothing
@blackblack11672 жыл бұрын
If anything, that makes me feel for Obi-wan more than the clone trooper
@TheWarmachine3752 жыл бұрын
"Well, I've known no other way. Gives us Clones a mixed feeling about the war. Many people wished it never happened. But without it, we Clones... wouldn't exist." - Captain Rex
@captaindc38892 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately child soldiers don’t get a retirement fund
@ReVocals2 жыл бұрын
Yeah.... "unfortunately"
@Alfanumericablate2 жыл бұрын
Hey. They're also slaves.
@Shygiverqueen2 жыл бұрын
😔dang right.
@peabrain68722 жыл бұрын
they arent children. they are mentally and physically adults
@abdelrahimmohammed18142 жыл бұрын
Property of the galactic republic
@hunterkiller14402 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered if those clone chips were still working. Part of me was hoping for the Clone to join Obi Wan, another part of me want to see his chip take over with Order 66 activated.
@s7robin1052 жыл бұрын
From my understanding I think he needs to hear the order for it to activate again, he also likely did not recognize Obi Wan after so many years and mental degradation
@nehemiah84962 жыл бұрын
Would be touching though if after Obi Wan gave the clone credits and left, the Clone then quietly said:"Thank you general, thank you....always.... "
@paulangelopineda25342 жыл бұрын
@@nehemiah8496 oh boi this would let the tear ducts spew out
@monkeyjames92852 жыл бұрын
@@s7robin105 think be from palp himself bad batch said order 66 to other clone chip did nothing not be surprised if voice activated by only palp
@ShadowGeek122 жыл бұрын
@@nehemiah8496 Man that woulda been so incredibly good
@tux752 жыл бұрын
I'd love to get a Star Wars movie about the transition of power from Clone Troopers to Stormtroopers. I feel it would bring the prequels and originals together and also get a look at society on planets like Coruscant after Order 66
@harrycheseldine98922 жыл бұрын
we got bad batch episode 14 war mantle
@finlay96162 жыл бұрын
This is unrelated but Tux, I hate your profile picture. I kept thinking there was a hair on my phone screen 😂
@TheWarmachine3752 жыл бұрын
@@harrycheseldine9892 But it was way too quick
@maxxor-overworldhero67302 жыл бұрын
@@TheWarmachine375 Season 2 seems to have more in store.
@antr74932 жыл бұрын
You want more Gov administration and paper work in start wars? come on. we got enough of that int he freaking prequels .
@indianajones43212 жыл бұрын
The whole scene really hit hard. I really want the clone veteran to get a better life by the end of the series. The clones gave the war their all.
@flakzuludeusex23652 жыл бұрын
This is a presentation in real life history, some or most of the first world war are left like this in real life, the up said at least real life soldiers get some benefits for aftermath of world world 1 and racisms included.
@indianajones43212 жыл бұрын
@@flakzuludeusex2365 yup the “land fit for heroes”
@warlordofbritannia2 жыл бұрын
@@flakzuludeusex2365 Indeed, trench warfare gave us the first identified cases of PTSD, often characterized as “shellshock” Of course, they didn’t yet know enough to differentiate between PTSD and combat fatigue (the former is a discharge and (ideally) medical care, the latter means the soldier can return to duty given some time and relatively mild treatment). Plus, when it first started cropping up en masse there was an immediate reaction to label them as malingers and cowards. It wasn’t until the problem became too big and too constant to ignore that officials (both military and civil) started taking it seriously.
@warlordofbritannia2 жыл бұрын
The clones got treated worse than the VA treats veterans
@xTK421x2 жыл бұрын
@@warlordofbritannia the VA treats me very well. Kaiser Perem, now that shit show. I chose my outside care. I get a check every month to help w/my disability, I call it my ill-perceived ability. Negativity hits the road. The US VA are not baby sitters. I am the master of my care and destiny. I have no problems there. Wait, I need new knees....gotta wait I am not old enough or the pain is not bad or your MRI's suggest this first. Hoops suck but cost is a factor. I am not defending HC in America, just saying I get GREAT care (mostly given by veterans) I feel safe amongst my brothers and sisters AND I get a free dumb-dumb loli for walking out the door. I get respect and I can talk freely about War with other vets if I need it. Joking around about sweaty sandy gear and long watches in the sun for no fing reason. That can be therapy. I seriously invite you, mindfully, to share your negative experience with me and we can talk. I am a Peer counselor. I will respect you and if you need some guidance in the VA I am your brother and I got you holmie. 360/365 Army? Airforce? NatGuard or little cousin I will help you I promise. Feeling like you want to hurt yourself or another:18002738255 is the crisis line. Talk to me? Until I know you are safe I will be your nanna! Wiping things is not my job tho.
@chengzhou87112 жыл бұрын
“At the end of the war and with it, the republic, it was becoming apparent that the military was beginning to change and was actually filling most of its ranks with that of volunteer citizens. This was when the realization hit many of us, that the new empire had no new work cut out for us. So, stemming of my previous connections in the senate, I secured a decent pension fund for the officers in my battalion and I started a business, and If I see a clone out of work, I try to hire him on the spot, but I know there are countless clones out there who have no place or work anymore for them. We deserve better.” -CS/CT-8711-12 “Cheng”, former Captain and Scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion
@ovencake5232 жыл бұрын
oh wow wats this from?
@chengzhou87112 жыл бұрын
@@ovencake523 OC
@rexlumontad56442 жыл бұрын
@@chengzhou8711 I would love to read your story about the Clone Cheng helping out his brothers.
@michaelandreipalon3592 жыл бұрын
At least you're doing the best you can.
@baki4842 жыл бұрын
Won't lie my heart sank seeing that 501st clone man.
@indianajones43212 жыл бұрын
He’s a soldier he deserves better -Fives
@kennyplop2 жыл бұрын
I was so surprised it was a 501st, likely one of the many who was transferred to the battalion that was made for the mandalore campaign before the end. I can't believe Vader, even if being turned, didn't care for his troopers. The only way he wasn't kept in the 501st was not being assigned back to them after the battle and order 66, just forgotten
@FalconWindblader2 жыл бұрын
@@kennyplop You need to remember that Vader is decidedly NOT Anakin. The once generous & loving kid turned into a heartless selfish git after he slaughtered the younglings & after Padme died. Unlike Anakin, Vader cared by then, only for himself.
@WolfeSaber99332 жыл бұрын
This is what Padme was trying to fix when she was on Alderran as an assassin was trying to kill her in Season 3 of the Clone Wars.
@justiceadams66232 жыл бұрын
Respect to padame
@enriquehartmann86422 жыл бұрын
Regrettably , soldiers in real life can wind up lost and homeless. I know this because i am a veteran. And for a while I was homeless. I am much better now. Kudos to Kenobi for using art to reflect reality.
@shariqhasan62202 жыл бұрын
I think he is a deserter. He still has his coloured armour while the Imperial clones wear only white. Maybe his chip was defective so he didn't carry out the order and just fled during the chaos. Just a theory.
@themelon_17852 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, in the SW comics, its shown that the 501st never got rid of their colored armor unlike other clone groups, so he mightve just been given a leaflet 1 day that he's "freed" from slavery and can now go out to the unforgiving galaxy to get a job or most likely go homeless
@blackc14792 жыл бұрын
Yeah, definitely 501st. Personally I'm guessing he "reacted negatively " to his "retirement package" from the empire and did a runner. Though honestly with that skillset bounty hunting or merc would have been a natural fit.
@qxuto85452 жыл бұрын
Out of universe, they may have given him the armor to identify him as a member of the 501st. His probable role in the attack on the Jedi temple makes the situation particularly impactful. In universe, it is hard to see why he’d still have his armor. If he’s a deserter, then he’d not want to identify himself so openly. If the Empire discarded him, then I don’t see why they would let him keep his armor. They discarded the clones because they no longer had a use for them. I would assume that the armor could be broken down into raw materials at least. And why leave the armor somewhere that it could wind up being used against them? Even if the clone didn’t betray them, he might sell the armor to someone who does. Letting him keep his armor risks it falling into the “wrong” hands. While it might be obsolete, it would probably be better than no armor. The rebels don’t have any armor except a helmet in many cases. Painting the armor and not wearing the helmet would be enough to avoid friendly fire.
@xTK421x2 жыл бұрын
Tech=we are all deserters now.
@moderndemon842 жыл бұрын
A deserter or he got decommissioned.
@z-man12372 жыл бұрын
I figured members of 501st would still be serving as part of Vader’s Fist after the Clone Wars and during the empire. It really is sad seeing a member of a favored battalion casted out.
@spaz.twelve2 жыл бұрын
My thought exactly. So I'm wondering what happend to this clone since his still in 501st armour.
@Cowboycomando54 Жыл бұрын
@@spaz.twelve He probably was left behind.
@dgray37717 ай бұрын
It's pretty simple. Clones exist to fight nothing more. They are not useful in other capacity and they age faster making them less desirable in the long run. Men of military age are best between 20-30. Clones age twice as fast. Meaning 5 years is all a clone has for peak performance. The clone wars lasted 3 years. This is set 10 years after the war. This clone if 20 at the end of the war is in his 40s. But if you look at him might be closer to 50. They simply don't have a long shelf life.
@inquisitorgarza3122 жыл бұрын
The sad truth is that the Clone Army were pawns to Darth Sidious rise, and they were meant to be sacrifice, used, and then discarded by him. They were a slave army who sole purpose was to fight in a war that was rigged from the start, and they were never going to be a part of the Galactic Empire in any way shape or form. Really if the clones were a bit more independent they would have realized that the Galactic Empire was going to replace them with the Stormtroopers, and maybe even stage a rebellion to at least die fighting as they breed to do.
@moderndemon842 жыл бұрын
Some of them were part of the Galactic Empire.Other than that,there was a Clone rebellion in Legends.
@dgray37717 ай бұрын
Slaves are bond by chains and force. These are not slaves. They are more like machines. A clone is created with a single purpose. In this case war. And with no war they are useless. On top of that they have accelerated growth. So they are fast into action at half the life span but half the shelf life. Since they grow old faster too. Within 9 years a clone is 18, combat ready. Let's say 10 years to make him proficient then you got 5 years for it to be at peak performance. And then they start to lose quality. Like every human does. But regular humans live twice as long. On top of that they are modified to have no fear, follow orders blindly and keep going without complaint. Not much of a democratic citizen. They do not disobey orders. They cannot solve complex problems. Which makes them useless outside of combat.
@mraverage.95572 жыл бұрын
I mean I've obviously got sad in a few parts when I first watched Clone Wars and Star Wars movies. But nothing have hit me harder than this.
@Kingofportals2 жыл бұрын
Those babies in the tubes we saw in Bad Batch that were taken out and likely moved to another planet will likely be the last batch of Clones introduced into the Imperial military, strange that so many clones never even fought in the Clone Wars, by A New Hope that last batch of clones as well as some officers from the first few generations are likely all that remains of the Clones in the Imperial military, the destruction of both Death Stars and the Battle Of Jakku also likely took a huge toll on their numbers for what remained.
@tristankawatsuma89622 жыл бұрын
I doubt they were ever fully developed. By the time of A New Hope, clones were a rarity. Maybe between 1-5% of the Imperial military at most. Sure, the Empire spans the galaxy so maybe they just have way more humans than a few million clone troopers, but most source material has the clones by this point be very old. So I don't think baby clones and a lot of kid clones are going to live to the age of ten, the normal age for a clone to be deployed when they have the body of a twenty-year-old human.
@JustTheJames2 жыл бұрын
You're the first other person I've seen to point out this guy is wearing 501st armor - this guy stormed the jedi temple, was involved in killing Kenobi's close friends and destroying everything he believed in... And yet he still gave the guy a few credits - I think this tells us more about Kenobi than you might see at first glance
@captainrexofthe501st92 жыл бұрын
Your note about the wreckage of the war made me remember the quote “Oktaro was a battleground during the Clone Wars. Imperial history books say it was just a skirmish, but I grew up in the rubble, and believe me, it was more than a skirmish to us”
@BleachFan98912 жыл бұрын
I was actually pretty bummed to see that clone in such a sad state
@lerneanlion2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what was Obi-wan seeing at that moment when he encoutnered the Clone trooper turned beggar. A dangerous man who may try to kill him if hw knows who he is? Or just a broken beggar who posed little to no threat to him after he has been used by a madman in his quest to obtain unlimited power?
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp94782 жыл бұрын
As Yoseph Calvert from Astral Chain so coldly put it, "Pawns go back in the box when they are captured". The clones were disposable pawns through and through. The Empire just disposed of all those pawns at once after they served their purpose. It's really sad, but reality is often disappointing.
@michaelandreipalon3592 жыл бұрын
Ah, reminds me of "The king and the pawn go in the same box after the game is done" adage. (Learned that from Halo and its expanded lore.)
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp94782 жыл бұрын
@@michaelandreipalon359 That is also surprisingly fitting with this video. I was not aware that Halo had quotes like that.
@michaelandreipalon3592 жыл бұрын
They're from the novel The Fall of Reach. It's an Italian adage said by Catherine Halsey's mother to her own daughter as a lesson on victory, life, and control, and in the years gone by, they became her smart A.I. Cortana's very first words.
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp94782 жыл бұрын
@@michaelandreipalon359 Well, that's really cool
@xTK421x2 жыл бұрын
What trooper or sailor isn't?I n the eyes of the commander in chief we are tools. How you treat your tools is a factor, but if a drill takes a shit we go get another drill. G.I.= General Issue. I am a sailor, we say S3 will provide!!!
@antr74932 жыл бұрын
10 years later and he is still wearing his armor lol INteresting. In Bad Batch Tarkin talked about how storm trooper were cheaper. MAde me think. I assume they have to pay storm troopers? would be interesting a break down of costs between Storm Troopers vs Clones. Weapons armor, salary etc.
@tristankawatsuma89622 жыл бұрын
It probably is cheaper. When the Republic bought clones, they had to pay for genetic modifications, their upbringing and development for a full decade, and simply the effort of making them in the first place. Compare that to just paying a stormtrooper normal wages, stormtroopers would be cheaper than clones.
@spastictreefrog2 жыл бұрын
Realistically I think the Empire would either keep using the remnant of Clone Troopers until died in combat or died of natural causes, it doesn't make sense to for the Empire just release what they consider their "property" into the wild, especially knowing the Clones still have their inhibitor chips, skills and knowledge /experience. They could be considered a liability to the regime. Also, if you're concerned about their aging, just have be trainers for the Stormies like the Commandos are. I think that seems more like something the Empire would do.
@thelaststormtrooper43262 жыл бұрын
And they did use the clones for the first couple years, remembering that only a few million clones were made during the clone wars & between the clone wars & the rise of the empire fighting against separatist holdouts & rebellious planets, most of the clones would of been killed at this point.. The Empire would hunt down any clone traitors & deserters, any who would qualify for “retirement” would have to be “loyal” & agree to certain terms like not taking up arms against the empire & report seditious or jedi activities.. Commander Wolf in REBELS reported the jedi/rebels when they first met with Rex’s group for example.. I agree that they could of used the clones for something, the problem with the clones are they are unmistakable symbol of the republic, like all republic symbols you need to be replaced with imperials.. So you don’t remind the citizenry of the “before the empire” times.. The empire was more concerned with loyalty & political alignment in training that the clones weren’t needed for trainers of stormtroopers after the first generation of natural born humans took the field.. With the Empire & the Imperial Army & Navy coming into form, I don’t think the empire cared about the few clones that remained.. By 0BBY all remaining 1generation clones would be entering their 60s, still capable but showing significant wear and tear on their bodies & minds..
@tristankawatsuma89622 жыл бұрын
Actually, the inhibitor chips wear off over time. That can be seen in clones like Captain Grey. Eventually, the inhibitor chips would stop working. If Howzer could do what he did with his chip still activated and if Rex was forming a clone rebellion, the clone army would quickly become a major risk. After all, a majority of the clones did serve under the Jedi and the Republic. If free from their chips, things could get nasty. While a clone uprising could be quickly put down, the Imperials wouldn't want to risk having a fraction of their army rise up. And racism is a strong motivator for phasing the clones out quickly. Plenty of people had low opinions of the clones, though it wasn't just because they were from a planet located outside the galaxy by aliens nobody had seen for centuries. The clones also cost a lot of money just to make, money that came from taxpayers and made a lot of people poor. There would be a lot of animosity between stormtroopers and clone troopers. Also, the clones served as a symbol of the Galactic Republic. The Empire wanted to wipe everything about the former government away. Yes, the Imperials like to have the tactical and strategic advantage in battle, but not everything about the Empire was efficient. It was a government that bathed in bigotry and inequality. What would be considered parts of other governments like the Republic and the Separatists, was the core of the Empire. If everything was done for efficient sake, the Imperial Senate would still be around to keep planets loyal, the Death Star would never have been remade, the TIE Defender project would have been continued, and the Empire would get rid of its bigotry side so that it can utilize non-human populations who have people just as great at stuff as humans like Thrawn from the Chiss. Empires can make a lot of stupid decisions for ideological reasons. Take Hitler calling off the Invasion of Britain so he could invade Russia. Take the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Take the US invasion of Iraq. Take the Russian invasion of Ukraine. In fact, you don't have to be an empire to make the wrong call for reasons that shouldn't be taken into consideration for utilitarian sake.
@spastictreefrog2 жыл бұрын
That's a good point
@spastictreefrog2 жыл бұрын
@@thelaststormtrooper4326 👍
@qxuto85452 жыл бұрын
@@tristankawatsuma8962 If they were worried about a clone rebellion, then why would they let them keep their armor?
@brandonoltman44112 жыл бұрын
I always wondered if Clones ever idolized Jango as their true creator? What did they feel when Jango was killed by Mace? In that regard how do clones look at Boba Fett and I am surprised no other clones have tried to off branch to take the throne as the most feared bounty Hunter in the universe- but know those inhibitor chips probably held them back in many ways.
@midnightgod1232 жыл бұрын
In Legends the clones tended to idolize their trainers more that Fett
@rexlumontad56442 жыл бұрын
@@midnightgod123 And those trainers were Mandalorians hired by Kamino
@midnightgod1232 жыл бұрын
@@rexlumontad5644 not all of them. Some were Corellian which led those clones to tend toward a rebellious streak
@rexlumontad56442 жыл бұрын
@@midnightgod123 Ah I see
@ShinoYomo2 жыл бұрын
@@rexlumontad5644 wrong, Jango went out and hired them. He even hired (much to his dismay) deathwatch. They were not to be seen or talk to anyone until after the war was over. Some Null Arcs and Clone Commandos created a settlement with one of the Mando Trainers who they deemed to be father and they even called a female mando "mother" but it's unknown to me if they created a settlement either.
@PenguinofD00mxxx2 жыл бұрын
I really want to see Nar Shadaa*, or Nal Hutta in live action, Daiyu was a great addition. When i saw the homeless CT, i immediately thought of this channel and that Fan Art that we've seen on here a bunch.
@TheWarmachine3752 жыл бұрын
0:59 I hope that Captain Rex picked the homeless Clones up and gather together into a Rebel cell where they fight against the Empire for what's right and also payback too as well.
@CT5555_2 жыл бұрын
"I don't know sir, but what I do know is one day this war is going to end."
@jamiewalsh33492 жыл бұрын
I wonder if The Bad Batch season 2 will show more and more clones ending up like that poor homeless clone
@shirosaki152 жыл бұрын
I think we might see more about the cadets that were shipped off Kamino.
@duran46892 жыл бұрын
I loved fallen order because of the lore and little bits that were contributed to the clones. Those little details were amazing to me.
@craigmorris40832 жыл бұрын
That scene in Obi-Wan...that was a literal stab right to the feels. A true commentary on modern society, and one we should discuss more.
@ryanmann14162 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see Empire lovers justify this treatment to the clone troopers
@blackblack11672 жыл бұрын
I don’t love the Empire, but he served his purpose. He isn’t needed. It’s a government and their soldier, there’s no obligation to take care of them, especially not in Star Wars
@maxxor-overworldhero67302 жыл бұрын
"Flesh droids, nothing more than property of the government." And frankly, a ton of the wider Galaxy thought along those exact same lines.
@rexlumontad56442 жыл бұрын
@@blackblack1167 No wonder the Empire fell to a bunch of Rebels and their Stormtroopers suck
@turkeygod66652 жыл бұрын
They aren't human lmao. Only a dickweed wouldn't understand that. They're organic property, through and through. They might have even helped the terrorists down the line. Besides they were a bunch of overpriced factory farmed fetuses, whatever man. The real one already died anyways. The real thing the empire can't justify is blowing up Alderaan, what a waste of resources, dumb move tactically.
@turkeygod66652 жыл бұрын
@@rexlumontad5644 stormtroopers are based
@chriscasias2702 жыл бұрын
I expected to see some remnants of the clone wars like old broken down walkers or ships maybe clone armor but i didn't expect to see an actual clone and if I'm honest it broke my heart to see him so destitute and tossed aside like he was nothing.
@jacobredfield13862 жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure about "degradation" and all that myself... the fact that Rex lives all the way to the destruction of the second death star, without any noticable health issues, and is still fit enough for war, makes me wonder if degradation is not canon under Disney. At the very least, it's plausable that the clones' rapid aging somewhat slows after a certain point.
@tristankawatsuma89622 жыл бұрын
Rex honestly could be called an exception for clone troopers, even if he is from the first generation made. Maybe thanks to his service with the Rebel Alliance, they did something like Clan Skirata did in Legends to slow down or even stop his accelerated aging.
@FalconWindblader2 жыл бұрын
Normal humans in our world, without ample physical training, starts degrading physically at an age as young as 25, & i'd assume that that much works the same for Star Wars. You don't have to get to the point of legs too wobbly to run & hands too shaky to hold a blaster to 'have degraded physically'. On the contrary, a human maintaining physical training all the way into their advanced age would allow one to even fight in a war in their 60s, with said degradation taken into consideration.
@andrewrash19312 жыл бұрын
Total Fan theory here as to who that homeless clone is, nothing I’m aware of in Cannon disproves this theory so I’m going to assume it to be true until proven otherwise. I suspect that clone we saw maybe Trooper Sterling from Clone Wars Season 7 Here’s my reasoning: For starters both Stirling and the homeless clone have a similar blaster mark on their armor above their heart. Coincidence? Stirling was a named clone trooper in the 501st that may not have been ordered to execute order 66. Partial reason as to why he didn’t attack Kenobi (Other than assuming he even recognized him, he simply was too drunk to notice or order 66 had warn off by now) Last we saw him in Cannon he was injured while attempting to stop Darth Maul on Mandalore. We do not know that he died of his injuries, we also don’t know that he was transported on to the venator with Ahsoka, Rex, and crew that went down with all hands lost. He could have been kept at a medical facility on Mandalore or taken off world via a separate shuttle to have his injuries cared for when order 66 happened and because no Jedi were directly around him and possibly being in a hospital bed he was never issued the order. And because we know the empire immediately started to phase out clones after order 66 happened it’s safe to assume they just abandoned him and any other wounded clones who were healing with the hope that without medical attention the clones would all die of their injuries and help expedite getting rid of clone troopers. Which could lead to why he came to the position that he was in Another theory that backs this is his armor. He’s still wearing blue marked 501st armor. If he’d stayed in the empire for any duration of time he’d have been required to turn in his armor and replace it with shiny white armor as clones were not allowed to have individuality under the empire’s rule. The only clones who kept there armor, Rex and Wolfe both left the empire early on (And anyone that’s a named character they didn’t wanna have to keep saying the names for like Howser and Scorch). Something Important Gregor does not have his colored armor as we know he did stay in the empires service for a few months after order 66. (He was wearing white armor in the Bad Batch when he was rescued) Presumably he stayed in the Empire a lot longer than Rex and Wolfe did. Based on the real world and my own experience with the military, you 100% are not going to be allowed to keep body armor when you “retire” from military service. They’re gonna take that from you and reissue it out to the next person. Which helps back the theory this clone didn’t “retire” from military service and either went AWOL or the Empire abandoned him thinking he’d die, supporting the theory that it’s Sterling. Pure speculation I know but it would be cool if he’s a clone we’d already met!
@qxuto85452 жыл бұрын
If someone is a deserter, then wouldn’t they also get rid of their armor or at least repaint it? Desertion is a crime right?
@ramblinnernd59052 жыл бұрын
I like to think they were given severance pay considering they were also given temporary leave during the war where they went to bars and such. This clone may have spent all of his pay on vice after getting depressed with knowledge that his his purpose had been served. (Thanks Geets!)
@masteroftheassassins2 жыл бұрын
The Clones deserved better!
@indianajones43212 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@thelaststormtrooper43262 жыл бұрын
Sure, but when you age at twice the rate & are a unmistakable symbol of the republic, like all republic symbols you need to be replaced.. So you don’t remind the citizenry of the “before the empire” times.. Really the only outcome for the clones were to be used as expendable shocktroops for the empire till they are all wipe out or test subjects for weapons or euthanized by a anti-clone virus.. The fact that the empire allowed some to leave/retire shows how badly they wanted them out of the way & forgotten.. The empire knew that clones that didn’t pick the life of bounty hunters & Mercenaries [Most dying quickly] or form small clone settlements would be unable to find work & would either die in the gutter or would find work in criminal circle or Rebel groups justifying they’re replacement.. Clones did deserve better, sadly they didn’t have many good options..
@alwaysplotting20962 жыл бұрын
Who would have thought an evil empire would abandon those who helped them get into power?
@justiceadams66232 жыл бұрын
Not me
@exploit02672 жыл бұрын
I paused and had to take a second to wipe away tears. My boys deserve better. I really hope more clones than we know joined the rebellion. For the republic....
@HHLucifer6662 жыл бұрын
I certainly didn't expect to see a clone of the 501. I expected some unnamed clone division or perhaps an unnamed member of the 212th that wouldn't recognize him
@neofulcrum50132 жыл бұрын
Star Wars Rebels does a good job highlighting how no one won the clone wars. In the end the Clones and Seps were discarded like common trash.
@CloneScavengerVulpin83892 жыл бұрын
I to felt sad watching that scene, maybe if this clone ever gets off world he could find work as a farmer clones like cut lawquane and hock malsuum became farmers. But it's unlikely he will find a way off planet but possible, i hope he gets back on his feet. Also it was nice to see obi-wan a being generous person his heart never changed.
@vitorpereira95152 жыл бұрын
Well at least the clones fate in legends is much better. In legends the Emperor knew the clones were an asset too important to be cast out. The Clones during the order 66 killed more jedi than Darth Vader during the entire Jedi Purge. If you played Battlefront 2 you know how truthful this is . And one clone called X1 even became an dark side adept with his own super star destroyer and ruled an imperial faction until be defeated by his brother X2.
@SupremeKingToshiro2 жыл бұрын
Someone played elite squadrons
@vitorpereira95152 жыл бұрын
@@SupremeKingToshiro i still play my friend.
@tristankawatsuma89622 жыл бұрын
Um, didn't the clones in Legends just get phased out later than they did in Canon? After all, the Kamino Uprising really threw Palpatine off. Not to mention the fact the clones were still serving the Empire who were only seen as useful for their skills and still treated as lowly as Imperial clones were in Canon. I would say in Legends, the inevitable was just delayed by less than a decade.
@vitorpereira95152 жыл бұрын
@@tristankawatsuma8962 What happened is that after the kamino uprising new facilities were created away from kamino and the clones created there would be from different genetical material. And combined with the recruitment the imperial army grew, diversified and the clones that were once the majority were supplanted in the growing imperial army.
@mightza37812 жыл бұрын
That's exactly why they were phased out. A cohesive army is a useful tool for a dictator to seize power, but a liability once in power. If Clones could overthrow the Jedi, then Palpatine has no chance if they get the idea to rebel, so toss them quickly. Imperial corruption is not a flaw, but a feature.
@MatthewChenault2 жыл бұрын
Homeless Clone Trooper of the GAR: “I’ve got nothing to my name except my armor. Homeless Union Veteran of the GAR: “Same.” Homeless Confederate Veteran: “Wait, you guys can wear your uniforms still?”
@Mourtzouphlos2402 жыл бұрын
Union Veteran and Clone Trooper: "Fuck off Slaver!" (Yes, CSA soldiers were 1000% aware that they were committing treason to defend slavery. Even if we didn't have personal letters and diaries saying that they did, they named their units things like "Tennessee Lincoln-killers")
@MatthewChenault2 жыл бұрын
@@Mourtzouphlos240, south man bad for “defending slavery” (not really). Clone man and north man good for defending a tyrant.
@MatthewChenault2 жыл бұрын
@@Mourtzouphlos240, rebellion to tyranny is obedience to God. You can rant and rave about the south all you want, but they ultimately opposed tyranny and, in turn, they suffered disproportionately worse for it. Your support for the union and, ironically enough, the Clone Army after they both effectively fought to maintain a tyranny that destroyed their respective republics shows you haven’t learned much from history.
@TheWarmachine3752 жыл бұрын
1:14 It's a shame that we will never see the Kaminoan rebellion with Anti-Troopers as Rampart arrested and/or executed Lama-Su and his fellow Kaminoans before they even started it
@tristankawatsuma89622 жыл бұрын
True, but it does at least show us the Empire isn't completely incompetent. While bigotry and economics were major motivators to phasing out clones, there always was the risk of a clone rebellion led by the Kaminoans in the minds of the Imperials. The sooner they eliminate their enemies along with potential ones, the better.
@robertagu55332 жыл бұрын
For the first decade or 2 after the Clone wars can just picture regular people driving an walking down streets of random planets an seeing signs held by random former Clone Troops saying "will "X" for food" or shelter, etc... Imagine an elderly former Soldier Slave, most of them, were lucky if a non Clone hired bunch them for bodyguarding an Security an other such tasks.
@soopakoopa64612 жыл бұрын
Even Rex, for as much focus as he gets, didn't get much after the war. Remember, when we meet him in Rebels, he's basically living in a camper in the desert, with nothing but a bed and his old wartime equipment to his name.
@soulsurfer64382 жыл бұрын
He forced the bond with them while he was Anakin so the 501st stayed active for a low time Commander Cody stayed working for the empire training other imperial soldiers.
@zexalbrony47992 жыл бұрын
Four days in a row of Geetsly videos. A surprise to be sure, but a welcomed one. Also, that poor Clone. How much you wanna bet since he's a 501st member, that he's one of the survivors that Rex managed to convince to join his Clone Rebellion, and after it failed many of the survivors lived like this, because that would make this even more sad that it already is.
@TheWarmachine3752 жыл бұрын
3:34 Cut Lawquane is a very lucky man to have a loving Twi'lek wife and two kids and a farm as a family together.
@isaackim76752 жыл бұрын
You should definitely talk about Obi-Wan’s hand to hand fighting skills
@ronhan92 жыл бұрын
i were under the impression that most if not all of 501st were remade into vaders fist so i was a bit surprised that the clone wars veteran were a) from the 501 and b)were allowed to keep his armour (and that he hadnt sold it for credits before he started to beg)
@stephendaley2662 жыл бұрын
It's kind of obvious in retrospect, but the entire prequel trilogy hits differently knowing that every clone was essentially a slave. Yikes!
@warlordofbritannia2 жыл бұрын
Want me to make it even worse? Anakin commanded child slave soldiers.
@michaelandreipalon3592 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the Clone Wars should be deemed as "the Drone Wars" with this in mind. Clone slaves, the Jedi "acolytes", and droids are, after all, drones of war.
@UnversedXIII2 жыл бұрын
No one wins in a war, only the rich. Really hurts to see a homeless clone even worse one from the 501st
@justiceadams66232 жыл бұрын
Sad but true
@magnustherad32912 жыл бұрын
I really hope that the 501st clone trooper gets more of a part in Kenobi. Especially if he helps him out
@frostburn37362 жыл бұрын
"Spare any credits?" 😢
@terrified057t42 жыл бұрын
Honestly not a bad cameo, but I'd expect Vader's Fist to have murdered him one year in...
@avidityrar2 жыл бұрын
The clones are one of the best (if not THE best) part of the prequels and TV shows; so when these new shows give us depth to the GAR it honestly makes Star Wars untouchable as a franchise. Also whilst I may be a Rex fanboi... oh wait nope that is it.
@DorsenFilm2 жыл бұрын
COMMANDER CODY IS BACK IN BAD BATCH SEASON 2! WHOOO!
@mikkelnpetersen2 жыл бұрын
I would like to imagine a company of clone troopers deserting the army right after order 66, and forming a mercenary band/company.
@shitikishitiko Жыл бұрын
Im a Infantryman in the US Army im genuinely scared on what my life will be like when i leave the military there isnt alot for an infantryman to do outside besides becoming a cop or going into swat which is what im considering
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp94782 жыл бұрын
Oh my, it's been a long while since the longer Geetsly's intro from Battlefront 2 I believe was used in a new video. I'm glad to see it back.
@randycheow42682 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we got to see more of this in The Bad Batch Season 2
@sindr12 жыл бұрын
I thought that the men in the 501st were turned in a stormtrooper battalion named “Vader’s Fist”. It makes sense why waste troopers that have already killed Jedi. Maybe that was in legends tho
@jordanhendrix26192 жыл бұрын
In Legends they continued to serve, becoming the backbone of the Stormtrooper Corps. The 501st, or Vader’s Fist, remained purely made of Fett clones. Many older clones were forcibly cybernetically enhanced to continue fighting, and others were retired and shipped to a couple planets made for retired troopers.
@itsvalentine7783Ай бұрын
GI BILL - no retirement pension - no VA benefits - no Twi lek Jedi GF - No Kamino - you guessed it, No
@kittycat08762 жыл бұрын
Especially the younger clones they were severely diminished in quality genetically and educationally
@Rook_Elrahm2 жыл бұрын
I somewhat expected to see the clone playing a part in the latter part of the episode, that was a pity
@evavidal19802 жыл бұрын
Me choco mucho ver a un soldado clon en ese estado. De hecho pense que apareceria Cody para ayudar a Kenobi en algun momento en Daiyu pero ver a un clon x vagabundo, fue muy inesperado y chocante para mi
@thellord93602 жыл бұрын
love geetsly content, by far the best Star wars channel. Something that really intrigued me in this video is the idea that clones get ptsd. I'd like to hear of the stories, if there are any, but I always had a different conception when I thought about clone mental illness. Considering PTSD is a real world diagnosis of an actual mental disorder, not just bad dreams from a bad experience or something lesser like that. We also know that a certain percentage of our population is physically incapable of getting PTSD. So when I thought about clones, I figured the Kaminoans genetic engineering would've made them incapable of getting actual PTSD. Now the closest thing I've seen is the inhibitor chip symptoms but those are obviously attributed to the chip and not the psyche of the clone
@calemmcelwee-wise58822 жыл бұрын
Republic Commando series tells the story of Kal Skirata and his efforts to set up a plan for retirement for his boys and their clone brothers
@JuanGomez-bs6ue3 ай бұрын
Clones are one of the most tragic beings in Star Wars. 1. They were child soldiers, growth accelerated, forced to fight a war they didn't understood, fully aware they were completely expendable to the republic and the kaminoans, which viewed them as products, not people. 2. Forced to comply order 66, which meant gunning down in cold blood their generals and commanders which most clones viewed them as mentors and friends. 3.Slowly being decomissioned by rank and file troopers, forced to retire or being used as a lab rats by Hemlock, or end up being homeless like many vets in the real world. The clones deserved the best, yet they only received the worst.
@cfcblue83 ай бұрын
Thankfully the Bad Batch were able to get a happy ending
@justjordyn67292 жыл бұрын
I thought it was such a good scene to show how Kenobi still cared enough to help out. Despite what happened, he didn’t hold onto resentment and betrayal from order 66.
@adrianeck6552 жыл бұрын
I have been trying to get some kind of idea about how many clones there would have been. First, during the entire production of clones and second, when all of these clones would have been thrown out in favor of stormtroopers.
@tristankawatsuma89622 жыл бұрын
Okay, I kind of doubt the child soldier remarks hold water anymore. After all in a galaxy like Star Wars, species age at different rates. Kaminoans for instance become adults at the age of eleven. Sure, the clone troopers are clones of a human, but that doesn’t mean their mental state and minds age at the same rate as a normal human. I know real life child soldiers can fight in battles and use weapons, but if clone troopers in the war would be called children, they would have to be the smartest ones ever since they could operate warships, starfighters, and walkers at the mere age of ten. Would I still consider them younger in a sense compared to other Star Wars characters? Probably because the Clone Wars was the first time any of them got off world. If experience outranks everything, then the clones could be considered children in the sense they know nothing about the galaxy, at least nothing they were taught in training. They are like Jedi Padawans who finally get to leave the Jedi Temple and explore the galaxy. Basically, I think the clone troopers are just too intelligent in a utilitarian sense to be called children, especially given other species like their creators don’t age at the same rate as humans. However they could also be called children in the sense they have little experience with the galaxy, like a Padawan finally emerging from the Jedi Temple with their Jedi Master.
@Sub2Cider2 жыл бұрын
"Thank you General"
@jameswalker67242 жыл бұрын
We also have to remember that some of the clones were forced into the Dark Trooper Program which also sucks
@Dan__S2 жыл бұрын
The star wars universe is a kind of hell for these characters, which only exist for our entertainment. The more these stories play out, the more horrific and grotesque it all becomes.
@clickboat47902 жыл бұрын
To the Empire, they’re all just expendable
@nicaln51042 жыл бұрын
Imagine having the best army the Galaxy had ever seen. Made from a remarkable template, just to cast them away to replace them with conscripted losers that get their ass handed to them by farmers with blasters… Like it’s hilarious the Empire just phased out one of their greatest assists. Clone’s in the time of New Hope would’ve been devastating to the rebellion.
@leolog_huggie_the_protogen25792 жыл бұрын
well i have 2 things to say 1: Clone Live's Matter. 2: I have a friend that made his own Star Wars backstory and in that back story their is a Clone called Sam and he is a clone who uses his hart more then his mind and he is a clone who is helping one jedi master and one ex Sith train a young kid and in this backstory my friend made Sam still has his chip in him yet he tries to use his hart to fight the never ending order that has been stuck in his head. I have to say Clones have had a hard live
@paperpopper25862 жыл бұрын
“Star wars being for kids, episode 483”
@ChaoticEmperor012 жыл бұрын
It’s likely that there are clones who made an adjustment, such as the maintenance clones, or clones who somehow made the transition, but the homeless clone is probably more the norm. I’d love to see this explored more. Even something as small as a club with a clone bouncer
@CaptainHowzer3252 жыл бұрын
My brothers 😢
@SonnyBLightSun2 жыл бұрын
At some point in to future there better be a Trilogy of movies or a limited series where it focuses on Omega Squad and the 6 Null-class Advanced Recon Commandos with Kal Skirata on finding a cure to Accelerated Aging and sending it out to the clones in the galaxy. As well as helping Clones like the 501st Veteran. Most of us Grow up with the Clone Wars show and I can't even express the sheer love we all have for the Clone Troopers, they deserve a definitive happy ending where we know that they, at some point gain the cure for Accelerated Aging and go on to then be Mercenaries, Bounty Hunters, Mandalorians, farmers, Law Enforcement, etc. Go on to find love and have families and create communities. To go on and Experience a Long Life. They deserve Peace and Happiness. To have them just Die and be forgotten, to be left on the street with not even enough money to eat is just Heart breaking. The beauty about Fictional Worlds like Star Wars is that Escapism it offers us from the Real world. Fictional Worlds allow us the opportunity to show how there is happiness waiting for all of us even if life can sometimes be absolutely egregious you always have to push through, stand tall and win a fulfilling life. You cannot allow Depression, Hardship, Anger etc. to win. Otherwise if it allows did the world would be a lot Darker and less full of Color.
@nickpelzer566 Жыл бұрын
I almost cried seeing that clone begging
@ge0arc2442 жыл бұрын
Fantasy imitating Real Life, This is exactly how alot of U.S. Soldiers end up. Go serve your country for pennies, Then get tossed aside and abandoned. After I joined the Army Reserves during the Iraq War I got fired from my job at the Rockwall County Sheriff's Office. They didn't even try to sugar coat it. Just told me since I wasn't making them Top Priority, I am disposable. I have little hope for the Future of Humanity on this Rock of a Planet.
@nickj9052 Жыл бұрын
The homeless clones had it good compared to what happened to the others. I know 1 trained soldiers. Alot were dissected and turned into the fist version of the dark trooper robots. Later they removed the "human" part. And that's what we see in the mandalorian
@bait6442 жыл бұрын
If I was in the Star Wars universe, and had enough credits rolling in, I'd take in all the Clones I could and basically let them have a place to come back to after their jobs. Encouraging them to be hunters or physical labor for construction if they had no objections.
@Cwronaga2162 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you noticed but in episode 1 of Obi-Wan Kenobi the Porsche Starfighter appeared in the episode but it looked almost like your version of The Fighter
@metadude1234 Жыл бұрын
Honestly surprised we don't have more Clones, especially Commando's or Arcs, becoming Bounty Hunters or hired muscle
@shadowknight09792 жыл бұрын
I hope we see other Clone Troopers that joined the Rebellion to fight the Empire.
@warlordofbritannia2 жыл бұрын
So, in the Star Wars universe, is there a hit song by Bruuce Springsteen called “Bred for the GAR?”
@scottpolk80002 жыл бұрын
You have to think that many clones became mercenaries and hired guns for crime lords. They would have been an invaluable resource for any groups that needed a security force.
@gaddaitherage82042 жыл бұрын
When I saw that scene I immediately thought of your previous video.
@gerardomunoz67252 жыл бұрын
another major the reason clones were phased out was because they were expensive and it was cheaper to recruit from the general population.
@nightdragonx1232 жыл бұрын
The Clones are my favorite thing about Star Wars. I've decided to walk away from Star Wars because of Disney but the clones and the Clone Wars keep bringing me back to a world (universe) eith so much coherent and consistent political and violent conflict that I can't get enough of
@snafu46962 жыл бұрын
Discarded and forgotten about just like our own veterans
@warlordofbritannia2 жыл бұрын
Huh, it’s almost like art tends to reflect reality…anyways, back to the lightsaber show 😂 Tbh, I wish we got more of this kind of thing, the life of an ordinary sentient being in the Star Wars universe
@morganadamo47062 жыл бұрын
The clone army is basically George Lucas’s allegory for u.s. or just simply military vets and how they are treated
@justiceadams66232 жыл бұрын
Sad
@Hrod2462 жыл бұрын
The clone scene in Kenobi is the one that has hit the hardest and think of often.