same

I don’t miss fighting them:)

back when Italy was good

The old OTO was what made me grind Italy. Also I think your radar not going down is a glitch.

Can you make a video using the tiny rim rocket?

Oh and the 40mm BOFORS HE-VT somehow does more damage to planes than the OTOMATIC 73mm

Well, soviet design game, so obviously soviet armor is best armor, and the rest is here just to feed soviets with frags.

You should leak classified documents on the War Thunder forums that will get their attention

@@tomaszmazurowski149 this, plus over 50% of gajin investors are russian. they are just pretending to not be russian while living on other countries with putin's cash.

not like the ariete armor would get a huge improvement lol

The comparison between 2S38 and Otomatic APFSDS ammo count is an even greater example

@@nevetz845 waaaaaay back some years ago I heard that the ammo count (APFSDS) of OTO was so low due to it being SPAA with the capability of defending itself. But with 2S38 in game this is a complete Bull* and cover for a nerf of a funny nation.

​@@theLaRRy333 yeah heard kinda the same back in the day when Otomatic was, like, 9.3 and it made sense, but today? It's already borderline useless against aircrafts, outshined both in BR and performance by ruski premium.. Gaijin being Gaijin

I just grinded to the top tier of Italian tech trees and I can confirm that anything beyond BR 10.0 is a joke in the Italian Ground tree while the 3 F-104s sitting at 11.0 and 11.3 are just sad.

It's the example of Italian tech tree just being sadly overpowered by any other nation, as Italian, it just makes me disappointed, especially when they make Russian ground and air just op

peak gaijin "game design"

And you'll get CAS and Heli mains who defend it.

Had 2 dudes with the 300mm Russian truck each spawn kill at least 2 players at the literal start of the match then both got the pe-8 with 5k bomb and wiped the entire team. Great game

@@HunterSteel29 " No dude you don't understand, cas players only kill campers. Spawn/ revenge bombing doesn't happen."

Do you remember the low-mid-tier tactic of rushing a cap in a BT-7, J-ing out and spawning a Pe-8 with the giant bomb? It's nothing really new.

Well of course, they're Russian vehicles.

What ever Gaijin is smoking, I want some of it 😂

I mean it’s Russian bias what did you expect

The Otomatic used to be 9.7(?) back then, and that's where it belonged.

the tunguska isnt even that good lol its rockets or missles miss 90% of target that are fly straight and 80% of the targets evading

ADATS is KA-50 destroyer though… as well as tanks.

@@nickkozak4763 true, but I was only “speculating” OTO was amazing at stealth killing helicopters it still is in a way but it doesn’t deserve to be at its current BR

@@youredad9250 Assuming they're greedy pigs who only care about money is a safer bet than assuming anything that benefits a Russian vehicle was a direct order from Putin.

I'm sorry but if it doesn't have that many sabot rounds irl, then it shouldn't have them in game either. This thing with 50 sabot rounds would be a menace.

@@giovannifoulmouth7205 There's a good bit of tanks that are inaccurate for the sake of improving their gameplay or balancing.

​@giovannifoulmouth7205 this game isn't realistic whatsoever so it doesn't matter. Planes especially have weapon and flight model nerfs in order to balance them.

@@giovannifoulmouth7205 yeah and yet HO-RI (which never been built) is somehow in the game and chew on sabot shell like it was nothing. this is a video game, giving Otomagic some re-balance with extra 12 APFSDS doesn't hurt anyone, it chew ammo like crazy with its fire rate, mind i remind u T-80BVM's era armor can eat 500mm AP round as if it was HEAT

​@@giovannifoulmouth7205As if the 2S38 could carry 100 rounds if APDS as a Prototype vehicle that performs better in literally every way is somehow worse than this thing with 12 rounds of it.

"The Otomatic is in a much better place than it was a year ago" = "The chocolate ration has been increased from 30 to 20 grams"

No matter what site it is, moderators will always power trip where ever they can.

The mods are trash, human garbage

deserved

@@whohashamburger855 Steam Forums are Great Example, I completely left WT Redit because the mods there are absolute shitheads

I hate that that’s true

Especially if its American. Because Gajin treats tanks like the third party profucts

Idk. I completed Russian and German tech trees. Currently grinding US top tier. And the best top-tier tank for me? Definitely M1A2 and M1A1 AIM. BVM is cool, but it gets outperformed by the Abrams easily. Leo suffers due to low ammo count in the turret and horrible thermal. The T80/72s are not that hard to kill. If you possess at least 2 brain cells, you can do it. They love to go boom. Sadly, the teams you get are absolutely disabled and winning is a hard task.

russian bias thing is a fad, people are just really bad at this game and the gaijin moments that happen if and only its a russian tank people scream and cream. like as a german main seeing all the people coping with the fact the leo1 is at a br it should be and not under BRed by 1 is just a reminder that most people suck at this game

@@unclesam5733 exactly seeing all my german teammates malding over bias after shooting the worst possible spot on a t80. i get when people complain about ammo not blowing up, but that happens to everyone and every nation its just gajin being bad

Its not even have proxy fuse rounds irl. Only timer fuse ones.

THERE'S NO RUSSIAN BIAS IN THE GAME, STOP IT ALREADY

don´t cry, stop it already@@ThePussukka

same yo, Italy ground could barely do anything without this combo against CAS

The whole 9.0 lineup is the least sad italian lineup

@@ugaaabugaaa6952 I'm up to that point and debating whether or not its worth it to go past

BR 3.7 Italy would like a word with you

@@scumbaggaming9418 yoooooo, another guy who likes the US leased light tank, US leased medium, hungarian tank, german premium tank, US leased premium tank???? I guess there's that _single_ semovente that's actually _Italian_ ... Yes, it's a potent lineup, but it's got a whopping two unique vehicles and only one is actually Italian

My man forgetting about the slowest firing autocannon on the 90/60

Everyone knows it's actually a tank destroyer

​@@justmarc2015 that would have been true IF 1)instead of 37mm 61-K autocannon it was 45mm 49-K that was adopted into service; 2)the vehicle had the same layout as ZSU-37 of 1946; 3)it had APCR ammo available. Then yes, would have been a beast even irl. ZUT-37 was abysmally bad in soviet reports about testing. But Gaijin doesn't care about that.

@@TheArklyte Here is your nerd emoji: 🤓. Have fun shooting planes with your ZUT-37 while I shoot tanks with mine.

@@justmarc2015 /loads 4 NS-45 with malicious intent/

He already made a video on it

gaijin try not to make broken russian premium overpowered challenge (impossible)

Yes😅

Finally!

we suppose to have DRACO at this point for our Italian top tier SPAA

How low do you actually fly then? Still catch em when I'm like 30 m above sealevel (Denmark map for example)

and thats why i have irst bound to a key :) it ignores the ground (one time I locked to a heli who was behind a mountain it is broken lmaooooo)

Ground clutter

Bprince is a fantastic anchor tank.

Spookston would lose his mind going that slow lmao

It's good when you reach the frontline before the end of the round.

Though I’ve also heard that the sabot can be used to shoot down missiles IRL, so would it not make sense for it to have more capacity for those kinetic rounds?

@@98765zach I'm not sure if shooting down cruise missiles was part of the design requirement for the Oto, and even if it were, APFSDS isn't necessarily any better suited to that application than it's radio-fused HE rounds. When it comes to shooting down enemy missiles a high volume of fire, like a CIWS system, would be preferred, and those have lower calibres, in the 20-40mm range.

@@jameshodgson3656 I don’t disagree, and I’ll not call it a good idea if true, I was just trying to give a reason I’ve seen stated as to why the APFSDS should be allowed to increase its count, as it would fall inside the options for its main ammo stowage. Kinetic projectiles do get used against missile, but those are often guided missiles themselves, Patriot is a good example

Then what about apfsds being able to be stored in the hull ammo rack?

not a great justification for game balance. APDS belt on gepard, capped at 127mm. APDS belt on amx uncapped at 110mm. S238 uncapped at 225mm.

Oh, yes, very great comrade 😅

Same, it took so long to get to them as well

really? thats pretty neat actually

Finally someone noticed

Where did you see this?

@@someone-cc7gl "It uses a remotely-operated turret and armed with the same 76 mm on the Otomatic. The gun is completed with an automatic revolver-type ammunition loading system. It can use all standard 76 mm ammunition, guided DART ammunition, C-Ram and top-attack ammunition and fully compatible with all in service 76mm rounds. Rate of fire is 80-100 rounds per minute (depending on the elevation angle). Ammunition revolver contains 12 indexed rounds and can shift from one type of ammunition to another. Twenty four additional rounds are stored in the automatic magazine located in the hull. Secondary armament could be a coaxial 7.62 mm or 12.7 mm machine gun. The turret can withstands hits from 7.62x39 mm armor-piercing rounds and artillery shell splinters. The C-RAM capability will be achieved by means of a special ammunition at present under development, designed by OTO Melara thanks to the significant experience matured in the last decade on special smart ammunition and fuses."

i just can't decide if the Conqueror, or the Churchill 7 is the most awful tank in the game

the APFSDS is hard-capped at 11, genius