I just realized. Nine’s character arc is basically just a reverse of Tails’ character arc, and also they are called the “Chaos Council”.

It’s pretty interesting that Nine actually has the opposite problem Tails had. Where Tails at times kinda became too dependent on Sonic Nine became too independent to the point where he trust no one but himself.

I cant believe Netflix could do Tails soo much better than what Sega did, multiverse version or not. This Tails is arguably one of the best, hes independent, has his own goals, fights off them robots epicly and is just overall the opposite of being helpless or "cant defend himself" AND HE LOOKS COOL TOO

I also want to point out the big foreshadowing we got from episode 1: When Sonic go through the Shatterverse for the very first time, we see multiple characters saying different things, most of them foreshadowing what happens and how things change without Sonic around (such as Amy mentioning how the forest is the most beautiful place in the world, or Knuckles being ready to fight) The second thing Tails says in this sequence is "I don't need an army when I've got a friend like you, Sonic !" And Nine doesn't have a friend like Sonic.

I always thought that smile was suspicious. Whatever he's up to means he wanted to get caught on purpose. Also Nine is shown to be somewhat SMARTER then the council themselves by showing he's the first to actually make a machine that can warp realities AND the Chaos council couldn't even figure it out or fix his machine. You don't want to mess with him.

Nine is a very intriguing character, one of my favourite versions, if not my favourite version of Tails.

Oof. That line though. “When independence turns into isolation.” I feel like happens a lot in American culture

Nine could potentially be a secret antagonist of the show. He seems very untrustworthy and manipulative, and only looks out for himself Edit: the way this comment aged so well 😂

Nine only becomes a villain if Sonic's goals contradict with his. He doesn't really want to shape a world in his own image. He wants his own world and he found it. Its that Grim place. Mostly because he wants out of New Yolk City. If Sonic's goal is to combine the prism shards and it wipes out Grim, then Nine becomes his enemy. But at the moment, only Nine understands the shards. Its why he's using the Eggmen to maybe gather all the shards for whatever reason. His plan is still not clear.

Not for nothing he looks like a Kyubi or Ninetale, a mythological creature that represent calamity or misfortune. Nine is clearly a potential antagonist.

Nine isn’t a bad person, he just wants to have a good life, he can’t be a villain.

If Nine turns out to be the true villain of the show, that would really subvert expectations in a clever way. I'm all for it.

Yay!!! He finally got an analysis, amazing video dude! One thing I do want to add though, I think a lot of people like him because his moral ambiguity makes him more realistic. Hear me out. In typical Sonic games there's a villain and a hero, a protagonist and an antagonist. However, from what we've seen of Nine so far, I'd say he fits the role of the deuteragonist. While variants are clipped back to and given screentime it's usually because a. Sonic is in that world currently and b. Sonic mentions them. However after Sonic leaves in the pirate dimension, we see nine again, with no reference really by Sonic. I think Nine is, and will be the deuteragonist of future seasons. Because there are some things to consider. 1. He's actively important to the plot 2. He's a genuinely engaging and interesting character 3. What he's doing isn't entirely wrong but also opposes SONIC'S goals For the last one let me explain. While you said that Nine wants a world he can rule over, I disagree. Nine wants a world that SONIC TOLD HIM ABOUT. A world where he's loved and happy. Why did he invite Sonic? Because Sonic was the one to give the other him that life. I think what Nine thinks of Sonic is a genuine love and affection (their bond can NEVER be broken) however it might be that Nine only stays with Sonic to coax him into staying with him because Sonic makes him happy, Sonic makes him feel loved. Only problem is he can't stay with Sonic forever because the hedgehog wants to go home, while Nine doesn't try to help him anymore. What's worse is that their goals can't be achieved at the same time where BOTH of them can be genuinely happy. Sonic wants to go home to his REAL friends, Nine wants a world where it's just him and SONIC. Based on how stubborn they both are, it can lead to a MUCH BIGGER CONFLICT. What Nine wants is understandable to, and actually needed for him. He wants to be loved, he wants affection and safety. So even if he does end up becoming the main conflict in the show, I wouldn't write him off as "evil" or a "villain. Because while he's not a hero, he's not a villain either. He's a horribly love/touch starved kid trying to achieve happiness and that's why EVERYBODY who watched this show ROOTS FOR HIM.

I'm loving this exploration of Tails' character through this alternate version of himself. Stripping away one of his defining characteristics--his connection to Sonic--and making his independence into something that holds him back from growing as a person makes me really excited to see what this show has in store for us.

Something I love is: Tails’ body language vs Nine’s body language. While Tails will usually have his twin tails in motion and spread out, I noticed that Nine always has his bio tails guarded by his prosthetic ones. And we rarely see Nine use his bio tails, except in the rare instances where he needed to fly rather than crawl. To me it feels like Nine completely rejected (or never thought of) the idea of turning his “defect” into a strength and instead took to covering up/guarding himself with his literal and figurative defensive measures.

This is like a non sidekick version of Tails and I love it! He helps Sonic but he also has his own goals. Edit: A good example is the fact that he sometimes denies Sonic's requests unlike the real Tails for example.

4:15 the moment I saw that smirk, I confident that he'll be the last boss in this series or at least this season...

Another legend about a Kitsune’s number of tails is that they sprout more as they grow older and stronger. That makes me think they symbolize how Nine forced himself to stop being a kid.

I find it funny how in an alternate universe, this one version of tails is probably able to outsmart 5 different versions of Eggman at once

Seeing this after watching season 2 You were spot on! Nice going! 👍

I didn't think about Nine being a Villain honestly it would be cool.

I feel like Nine being a "final" antagonist/BBEG for the first season is pretty plausible. Or maybe right at the end of season 1, he reveals his true colors to carry the show over into season 2. We've seen how he's different from Tails in terms of Personality/Character, and he's already laid out his big plan, "Start over and 'get the world right'." by making a new world. With Sonic choosing the greater good, maybe Nine will claim the reconstructed Paradox Prism at the last second and create a whole new reality in his image. As a consequence, a darker, crueler "Sonic" would be Nine's "friend" / obedient henchman. Maybe a completely robotic Sonic, a Metal Sonic. After all, a robot is programmed. It would neeeever betray it's master, right? Not like /people/ do, at least.

Man just predicted season 2

i love nines character and i also loves how he moves like a spider and spiders are often portrayed to be manipulative and cunning due to the fact that they spin their own traps so that is also interesting

I believe your contradiction was spot on big time season 2, if you watch the episode 8 you know what I'm talking about

I cannot believe how INSANELY ACCURATE this video was…You saw ALL the angels that Nine was gonna a dangerous antagonist.And it shows how good these writers were when creating this story.Cannot wait for the last season.

…..I need the Ninth Episode of prime to literally just be called “Nine” and have it focus on him.

Interesting analysis, thought there is something i feel that needs to be pointed out: Nine didn't say he wanted to make the world in his own image, he said he wanted to make one like Sonic's. Except, of course for the part where it would be just the two of them. (also it's never outright stated but i personally think Nine was looking for Sonic). That plus the first time nine came to rescue Sonic he only seemed concerned to get him, specifically. I don't think Nine is trying to isolate himself from Sonic, at least, and am sure their bond is gonna be pretty important for Nine's story going forward.

The big thing with 9 is he is likely the only character who can fix the circumstances of sonic prime, unless the chaos council has a change of heart

While nine is sure is an interesting character he's neither a hero not there yet at least neither an evil mastermind he just wants to feel loved and respected by the people around and just like OG tails sonic gave him that

After finishing the second seaon in viewing all I can say is OOOOOFFF, not in a bad way but how accurately you called his character. I can't wait to see how this boy operates in the third season.

I have a feeling at the end Nine will join the Rebels realizing you can’t get through life alone, if they are still a thing when Sonic leaves.

If you ask me, tails nine is the shadow version of tails. Both characters dealing with the harsh reality of life and become independent only relying on either side to fit their goal. So shadow and nine are neutral characters than good or evil.

Genuinely feel like Nine dominates as a character in this show, though. Basically every scene and scenario he's involved in is improved by his actions.

Nine may be the main antagonist at the end. Especially with his dream of starting to live anew in the Void.

I see him becoming the main antagonist in the series.

You are have seen the future...

The chaos of all councils is inside Tails. He is basically the best character after Shadow.

I love Nine but I am a little worried about what he's really planning... He did make it pretty clear that he wants Sonic to be a part of this "new world" but does that mean he's ready to turn against the others for that to happen? Then again he could just be just using Sonic but we don't really know yet... I have so many questions and ideas but I still hope everything ends well

I suppose then this would make him an even more menacing villain than Eggman ever was, because unlike Eggman, Nine is luring Sonic into a false sense of security and trust, then he least suspects it, Sonic will be disposed or used up as Nine’s means of conquering the multiverse or “Shatterverse” in his own image.

I really like the idea that Tails was an actual kitsune. It would explain why he can fly when he spins his tails, he is using wind magic (equivalent) to fly. Nine is a bit terrifying because who knows what his limits are, and who knows what he can or can't do.

I think there's a VERY good chance Nine is the final villain of the show, or at least the first season. That Eggman council just isn't very threatening, and Rusty Rose is just a goon. But a version of Tails with questionable intentions and no real moral compass? Scary. I feel line Nine is going to betray everyone and emerge as the true final villain.

I enjoy Nine a lot, but even with his "Build a better world" moment (which I no doubt think he can pull off flawlessly), I still don't see any of the evil in him. And I think it's too soon to label him as such. Honestly, he's a complex character because he has so many layers, but maliciousness isn't really one of them. The only character he actually trusts is Sonic. Because unlike the rest of New Yoke, Sonic's the only one to have complimented him. I don't think he's using others for his own self gain. He's just troubled and genuinely wants a better life. Thole only people he's using is The Council. Other than that he's just not good with other people, but he'll work with if he has too.

Nine is my favorite character in this show by miles. His arc of how revenge can consume anyone is so well done, and I really cannot wait to see more of his arc!

Nine is my favorite version of Tails. I don’t think he’ll be a villain as in the end he choose to fight for his world otherwise he would stayed in the new dimension. An interesting thing to note is how fast Nine was able to utilize the Crystal power and travels through dimension, something that the Egg Council didn’t thought about and were unable to figure out how to make a machine to manipulate that power.

I came back to this after watching the last episode of season 2 and you was correct 🥲 bro done betrayed sonic

Hey, I'm from the future. Just Finished watching Sonic Prime season two (SPOILERS). I've come to say that you were right about Nine.

Nine is pretty much "Where Was My Hero" Tails, and I'm all for it.

Very good video. I saw a theory a while back that predicted that Nine could be the final boss of Sonic Prime, and based on what I've seen, combined with this video, it's certainly possible. Nine's dubious morals after years of isolation in a harsh world; Thorn's drive to protect her home turned to mutually-destructive rage; Dread's lust for treasure backfiring to cowardly fall, then potentially back again. I wonder what Prime will do with Rouge, maybe Big too; they promoted her to cast member, so it would be strange if they didn't have her play a lead role in one of the verses.

I absolutely adore Nine. I love the fact that he's ambiguous, and morally grey. Years of mistreatment took their toll on him, and Sonic's kindness just scratched the surface of his hardened armor. Yes, he wanted to create a new dimension based to their wishes, but how? Just shrugging about everything else: the rebels, the Council's tyranny, the pollution that literally ate that world alive. Nine isn't generous, he doesn't care about anyone but Sonic, yet Season 1 doesn't seem to have ended on a very high note on their relationship, given that the fox is prisoner of the Eggmen and bitter about Sonic's leaving (again). We still don't now if he resents his decision to open up to him or not, and Sonic still has to correct his excessive impulsiveness. Honestly, I like how Sonic is struggling with the alternate versions of his friends just as they kept struggling with his own headbutting into problems. Tails is his closest friend, so Nine will probably be the source of main angst. I'm so into it, I love this new side of introspection.

What's interesting about Nine is that he's unpredictable. You can't really tell what he'll do next, but i do think he's on the brink of being villain material.

It's insane how accurate this video turned out to be after watching the end of season 2, lol

I dont believe Nine wanted to be captured. He looks surprised and concerned while the light immovilized his craft, even when nobody was seeing him. But i believe he knows he is smarted than the Council, so he thought in that moment he will be able to manipulate them. Nine isnt this way because he wanted, its becaused he needed in order to survive. He wish to trust and feel protected by a real friend. Anyway, Nine was an amazing character. Damn you netflix for keeping us waiting...

i don't think nine is evil at all, he's grown up in a bad world and sometimes he does bad things. he's a loner who doesn't trust anybody, but it doesn't take super long for him to befriend sonic, showing that he's not bad. it might take some convincing, but i'm certain sonic can get nine to help the other freedom fighters! also yes, tails' design was inspired by the kitsune, so it makes sense they went even harder into that concept with nine :D

Nine is a great for prime. He is my favourite character

You really predicted Season 2 😔

Also a bit of foreshadowing in episode eight might lead to Nine replacing Rose as the CC's goons, before nine ditches them and goes on his own path. There is a lot of thought put behind most of the characters in this story

Thank you. THANK YOU!! FINALLY SOMEBODY MENTIONED THE NINE TAILS AND KITSUNE MYTHOLOGY!! Like, for the longest while as I got more and more into Tails as a muse, I was always wondering about the connection between a fox with more than one tail. Yeah, it’s a mutation, but that paired with intellect is no coincidence when it comes to the ‘significance’ of tails in kitsune mythology. I always felt that Tails is probably one of the most dangerous characters because he has tons of undeveloped potential. And. In the wrong hands, he could do a lot of damage. Also. He is a fox and foxes are predators. From a biological standpoint, he could eat every main character. The only other threat to him is probably vector because he’s a croc. But other than that, everything about him can make him their greatest enemy. And Nine being warped like this just backs it all up. A mind like that can easily be corrupted by the cruelty he’s had to face growing up. Scars and trauma turning you towards spite. It’s beautiful, honestly. There are so many possibilities with a character like him and the fact that he’s still impressionable. But also. Cute fluffy precious boy, I adore him. HES TOO CUTE!!!!

The finale opened my eyes. The variants aren’t individuals, but parts of a whole. Nine is just tails. Without the compassion , loyalty or sense of adventure. Those are somewhere in the other variants.

Nine is definitely going to become a villain, but then he’ll have his redemption. It seems he’s growing very fond of sonic he always was from the beginning. But I bet he’s going to try to get all the crystals, and make his own world, where there it be just him, because he feels he doesn’t need anyone, and when he did put his trust in sonic ,he didn’t accept it. Like sonic left instead of trying to restart with him, and I bet that tipped him off. Now he thinks he dosent need anybody so he’s going to try to get rid of everybody’s one can be by himself again

bro got it EXACTLY on point

I see I'm not the only one who isnt blinded by Nine being "a Tails" who are extremely adorable, yay!

I feel like Nine might be getting set up as a twist hero. It could be that he's actually just a twist villain like it looks like he is, but... That twist is so easy to see a mile away that it's not really a twist anymore. It would probably be better from a writing perspective for him to be cast into doubt in the eyes of the audience, only to end up proving himself later. He doesn't have to fix everything by himself, and his character arc could end up just being that he has to learn the lesson that he has to learn to accept others by his side instead of bearing his burdens on his own.

This video aged well.

Tails and Eggman are normally on the same level of intellect, the big difference it ones good and ones evil but the bigger difference is one is young and has more time to grow then the old one, Tails will not only outlive Eggman but become stronger then him in more ways then one. Tails could not only be the smartest and the strongest as time goes on whether he's good or evil but he could also be the richest and influential person in his world, if tails ever goes Anti-hero Eggman is done for 100%. One thing i love about sidekicks is they almost always have more story and potential then the main hero.

Hello. I come from the future to deliver the news. Nine might have just become the true antagonist of the series. At the end of season 2, episode 8, he stole all of the prism shards from Ghost Hill and is now gonna use them to finish the Grim. You were right. We just experienced the scariest character of Sonic Prime reveal his true colors.

Nine was definitely the best character in the show I could tell immediately that he was going to be well written and I love how they are exploring both sides of tails as a character

What if his other variants (Sails and Mangy) try to reason with Nine? Then this show transitions from Sonic saving Tails (and the rest of his World) to Tails saving himself...

I am actually so glad how well this aged!!!

If Nine ends up being an antagonist or even the final antagonist, it sure would be interesting to see Tails from Sonic’s world go up against Nine in a final battle, where of course his friendship with Sonic proves to be the deciding factor.

now hes the antagonist

Tails is a smart kid who was bullied but saved by someone stronger than him. Nine is a smart kid who was bullied and had to toughen up and learn how to defend himself.

Bro predicted S3 in 5mins

Not gonna lie. The fact Chaos Council caught him and he smiles. Makes you think he could be the final villain

Not only would a Tails betrayal be shocking and cool, but it would beautifully portray the themes of the series. True freedom and self-determination sound nice, but to embrace them completely, you have to abandon the companionship of others. Even Sonic himself isn’t so free that he has no friends.

After watching season 2 this theory is right! He isn't evil he's the antihero. He's proof Tails could've survived without Sonic. And become something more than his original self, very liberated to his full potential and scary.

I interpreted Nine’s ultimate goal as less of “reshaping the world in his own image” and more of just getting away from everyone and everything that he despises. The shatter space he lays claim to is uninhabited, and according to him that’s why he chose it. So he can start over with Sonic away from all their troubles and the things that hurt them. It’s not a grand conquest of the multiverse, it’s a withdrawal into the one place he can finally be alone

This really aged well

Sonic: Hey Nine, your mechanical days are over. Give me the crystal emeralds. Nine: If you want it. Then you’ll have to take it.

Some days ago, Nine looks like that one tails from that one comic thing called "Where was my hero" It gave me chills after that

Reminds me of "where was my hero" Tails, but he didn't die, wasn't a villain, and were just alone.. *Amazing reference or not, it's still awesome*

I believe that when the situation gets worse, that Ashleigh Balls’s performance will get harsher and more hard hitting. I also believe that unlike the quick fix scene that we see in the first episode between the two, that Nine will be less likely to take Sonic back as he has grown-up in a more fearful world and is more out to defend himself. He might even be more critical of Sonic in doing so. And as seeing as how Rusty can easily be reprogramed, I wouldn’t be surprised if he, switched her over to his side both for her knowledge on the Chaos Council and as a defender at some point. With saying that with Amy being robotized it really puts her character in a manipulative state and with how Nine used her before and with him being a tech genius, it’s just not a good mix. With Rusty being filp-flopped around so much it proves just how little control and say that she has in her life and I hope that when her turn comes, I hope that she gains control over that factor as that doesn’t look good for her character. Also, that’s just very sad. Lastly I hope that when Nine’s true colors finally do show, that The Chaos Council is rendered utterly shocked. Mouths all hanging open and everything.

There was so much foreshadowing for Nine becoming the big bad! I can’t wait for the second half of the season

The funny thing is what they did for Nine, is basically what I wondered if they were ever going to do with Tails. Because I always felt like if there was any instance of Eggman brainwashing Tails. The two tailed fox would be the actual threat over Eggman at that point.

This video only makes my love of tails and respect for Nine only grow. Yes,he's a really strong,chaotic wild card but as the show has stated,his heart is in the right place. He WANTS to live in a world re-written by him,but he wants to be with Sonic as he does so. I can honestly can see a plot twist in where he would reform the prism and pull a "Thanos" of nearly whipping the other universes clean and rebuilding them to his liking. But I'm also kinda rooting for him as I want to see him bond more with Sonic. I'm curious of how the writers are going to develop his character in Season 2

Something that should be mentioned is that unlike the rest of the variants,Nine isn't a 'what if these character traits are focused on or pushed to an eleven,' but an instance of a minor backstory change that has major effect with any and all changes being due to the lack of a key moment for his original characterization.

Nine actually took all the shards in the end and took them to the grim

Nine is amazing, I’ve always loved Tails (that sounded wrong), but Nines? Nines is amazing! He’s so ambiguous, and I love it when characters are like that

Yeah, I wouldn't call Nine necessarily evil; more like running on his survival instincts and dreams of a better life due being bullied and outcast. But, he does sit in a weird grey area where depending on which points are hit as the story goes on, he could either he can be the final kick to the Chaos Council's regime [and Shatterverse] or a way larger threat than all of them to the heroes [and Shatterverse]. There's even a case where BOTH could happen. (I can totally see him lay waste to New Yoke City; the question is, is it done AFTER the civilians are evacuated first? Since this is the closest we got to an potential antagonistic Tails that isn't done in a bizarre or brainwashed matter, I want to see what they're able to pull off before he ultimately has the redemption arc.)

Now i feel like cyber tails could be a plot twist in sonic prime .

I love Nine. The Alternate Worlds are all very believable facets of each character with Tails and Nine being two halves of the same coin. Sonic was the first one to befriend tails and save him, so he became dependent on his savior. Nine never had a savior and shut everyone out. Both are very real paths for the Fox and in my opinion acceptable reactions for someone who dealt with what always seemed to be extreme bullying. Tails wasn't always strong like Knuckles, or confident like Rouge, so it makes sense out of everyone environment would have the strongest impact on Tails because unfortunately, he's weird, he NEEDS someone to help him have a place, because it is so much easier to push everyone out and make your own space, a space you won't let anyone else ruin, where everyone is a threat.

This is the tails I would do everything I can to keep him on his good side. I wouldn't want to enrage this tails. Man those extra tails can do serious damage. I think this tails might be an anti-hero type through out the story. I wonder if we'll get a twisted version of Sonic soon.

Nine was literally my favorite character in this.

I always enjoyed the contrast between innocence and efficiency... Perhaps I should give this show a try... Let's see how Nine conquers my interest. Tails caught it because he's looks like a fun prey to play with. But Nine is no prey. Yet that doesn't mean he can't show me how he plays.

I’m not a sonic fan I’ve never played any of the games or watched any of the shows except sonic prime and I’m glad I did it’s an amazing show great character’s great writing love it I can’t wait for season two

Regardless of whether or not he’s actually a bad person at heart, his portrayal in Prime was amazing imo, definitely the best version of Tails we had in years.

This is the most badass version Tails we ever got I think him Nine vs Adventure games Tails would be just a great match to watch

Its even more tragic when you think about the fact that he became nine when he was like 4, and he is cononically 8 in all the games 😢

Nine is hands down my favorite sonic prime character, and I also agree that he doesn't take a side. I feel like he deserves some love, because original tails stops tails from being bullied, but in the other universe he had to take the hits for the time being. Sure, it's a little suspicious that he wants to "fix" the world, but come on if I went through that I would want a better world. Also sorry if this seems like a whole essay, I just have a lot to say about him.

It came out and you were right