Yeah LOVED/LOVE Tomata!!! We were fortunate enough to meet him. I had/lived this lifestyle and I didn't see it!!!

man that shit's just masterpiece..

Just watched it again today

I keep visiting 122 hrs of feat. Love tomata!!

I bought art work at "You've Got Bad Taste" (Excene's store). I still have the t-shirts she designed and sold at the shop. Was good while it lasted. I prefer the seedy Silverlake, as opposed to the gentrified one!

Who are you? I was in SFAC. 924 Lincoln Road was the office. There was only one black girl who managed the office back then. I'm sorry I forgot her name. TJ? You were there when Jane Gilbert was the director? I was at the 800 Building, painting still lifes. Do we know each other?

It's so true. Most of the early 1st wave punks were well above average intelligence, and extremely creative. After hardcore took over it got really dumbed down. Don't get me wrong, I love a lot of the early hardcore bands, and many of those guys were pretty smart too... but the scene as a whole really took a nosedive in the IQ department in the 80's.

@@Brewzerr Thanks for your comment to my own ditto that I wrote eight (8!) years ago! I've just rewatched the Du Plenty video, and I must admit I like these 1st wave punks/punk bands more and more as time pass. And definitely way more than what came after. I agree on your hardcore comment.

@@GyntherMeyer I'd be a liar if i said i was involved in that early scene in the late 70's. I saw my first punk gig in summer '80. I got into it just as the big transition from 'punk' to 'hardcore punk' was starting to take place. I'm a 2nd generation punk, but I did get to see a lot of those early bands and knew/know tons of the original scenesters. There was definitely a marked difference between them and the crowd I was coming into it with. A big rift opened up around that time between the older punks and the new, more suburban younger 'hardcore' kids. I honestly preferred the older crowd, but most of them didn't want much to do with me or my peers back then. It's understandable looking back. We were pretty violent (not so much me, but a lot of my peers and friends) and we looked a bit different and danced different. We had to go through that too when an even younger and MORE violent crowd started showing up around late '83/early '84.

@@Brewzerr I didn't start going to punk gigs until '88 and this was in London (UK) so it was very different. But I watched the new(ish) (2019) four part tv doc on punk recently and basically everyone mentioned that there was a big gap between the original punks and the hardcore punks. Ron Reyes said he left Black Flag for Canada because of the growing violence.

@@GyntherMeyer Black Flag gigs were the most violent of all during that time (1980). Violence followed them everywhere they played, and a lot of that had to do with them being targeted by the cops. I was at a few BF gigs where the cops inevitably showed up early into their set and started busting heads. Us punk kids, not being the type to back down or run away, would start throwing whatever we could find at the cops or busted out windows and headlights on their cars (in a few cases), and it would just escalate from there. I could say that was fun, but honestly it was scary as hell. I got beat up pretty badly by the cops more than once, and so did all my friends. The cops singled out a few different bands, but none more so than Black Flag. They were like public enemy #1 as far as the cops and the local media were concerned. It got so bad at one point that they had no other choice but to hit the road and tour all over North America. If they had stayed home in L.A. they would have all ended up in jail and done hard time. That was literally the main reason why Black Flag constantly toured. They were trying to stay one step ahead of law enforcement.

AGREED...

No, the correct pronunciation was 'ToMAYta', which is what his mother called him. Somehow the public changed it to 'ToMAHta' and he thought there was no use fighting it, or so he said.

You and me both. I've always said "To-MAH-tah".

Cuz they Never recorded anything.

They are part of the global punk rock compendium from 1975 to 1978, when the Sex Pistols, broke up in SF, it all became "post punk", at that point.

Tomata was living at a place close to the OMNI with Eddie Mac. Was that your friend?

truth

Jestifer Chalice but Picasso’s art was bad too

No such thing as bad art if you're putting yourself into it.

You're not a speller if you spell it "your".

it never was part of the academy!