Me too ❤

Same here, thanks James! Didn’t know this album existed!

Me too. And 'Night Train' is sooooooo funky... Actually most of the grooves on here remind me of Porcupine Tree, 2002 onwards??? Only problem is , This is a couple of years before that type of PT groove that we all like??? Not so original Steven Wilson - Gavin Harrison.(you ain't the Only Ones that can do that dirty Groove. And that's what your famous for???😂😂😂

Same mate!

Likewise! How?!?!?

Same here😄

Same mate after watching that video on the rise and fall

Yep. Same here. Fkn glad though

Can’t believe this!!!

This and loads more are available on John's website. Someone's also dug out their last gig at slane

@@keithmcclenaghan4469 have you got a link for the site? I’ve tried searching but it just keeps bringing up his site for his artwork etc.

It's such a banger too, can't believe they didn't release it.

David Ross the debut album did at least go platinum I guess, but they deserved to at least replicate the Stone Roses success.

@@marcuslavaggi-bowen6539 Totally agree mate

100% agree man, criminally overlooked at the time

1st album is a phenomenal debut album.

@@marcuslavaggi-bowen6539 I don't think so. Did The Seahorses make an album as likeable as The Roses self-titled album ? So why did they deserve to replicate the Roses success ?

If the singer was in another band that band would never get signed. He just doesn’t have it. He’s crap.

@@cabcitychelmsfordtaxi1584 crap is harsh but i disagree with the original comment, hes a capable but unimpressive singer. Listening for anything other than John's riffs just doesnt even compute with me, he made that band.

Brown was/is a crap singer and is legendary. Helme has a voice that is night and day more accomplished than the vocals on The Stone Roses. Still wouldn't change the sound of the Roses for anything, but to call Helme a crap singer is a bit of a reach.

They did form their own band called the yards.

@@J8D2 nice troll attempt. Shame u didn't catch any fish though. 🤣

I saw them in London back in '97 I guess it was. They were fantastic. I remember just being happy that Squire was making music again.

I reckon they were better than the cribbs I just think they needed a heavier sound, nothing wrong with the tracks, just one of those albums that ordinary blokes should be brave with noise As it is, lightweight production with optimistic songs that should be heard by the fans in disappointment

Squire (the guitarist) loved Zeppelin, Hendrix and that kind of stuff at the time so you can hear it in his riffs :)

Me neither, sat here just and came across this...OMG

Underrated band, had unique sound that had in-depth quality Promising stuff, just needs a bit of luck and re-do to promote Hardly here their material on music 6

Sounds like a Ride b-side, and I love the Roses...jus' sayin'

Like Cressa said...John is is strange individual, who cuts people out of his life for no reason...John does it to everyone including this band.

Seriously ?

This must have been when they played the citadel in st Helens as well

True facts: I used to rehearse at that studio - and all the Seahorses' gear was there for months.

Really?

@@69birdboy Yep - we used to hang around a bit hoping to see JS, but never did. All their gear was stencilled

@@ianfreud I lived in wrenthoroe around that time..and now in ossett..where was the studio

@@69birdboy It was called Riverside Studios and was at Healy Mills (which I think they've converted to flats now)

Les Paul guitars a heavy guitar

Yes a bit like how the Wonder Stuff went early to mid 90's.... A bit Pearl Jam in places

the man can play!

yeh but where is helme nowadays ...he had it good with squire but threw it all away

anthony truman Squire split the seahorses because he didn't think they were good enough - truth is they weren't really. John also wanted to write all the songs and claim all the publishing...it was never going to work long term with the other members - especially Helme.

@@tc8066 Rubbish. Helme developed an ego, wanted to work in collaboration despite being hired for his services as a vocalist, not a writer. He frequently turned up to recording sessions drunk and belligerent and insisted on pursuing a solo career parallel to The Seahorses despite knowingly signing a contract to tie him down to the band. Squire couldn't be bothered dealing with a prima donna and walked away effectively ending all their careers and resigning Helme to the pub circuit. Shame because Heaney and Fletcher are excellent musicians.

@@SeahorsesJay What is wrong with an ego? Did Jagger and Bowie not have an ego?

@Alaska Music Fair enough!

Seen em live in Doncaster dome Was pretty good ....the crowd shouted more 4 squire than Chris....but well u know !!!

It would have bombed because the songs are poor and Helme was spot on in refusing to do it as an album

@@AK-pr2nk theres some proper ......... Stolen riffs in it il say !!!!!!

I was at the Tivoli that night too. Fun Bus from Chester…great times ❤

Barn Crow me to. Av just discovered it now. Nice wee surprise for a bank holiday

They officially only did one, this one went unfinished although these demos were somehow leaked or released on a promo disc during recording?. Either way, I’m glad it’s out there.

Marcus Bowen cheers. What actually happened to this band?

Barn Crow there’s a little bit here which somewhat offers background. Squire walked out of the sessions also, then they split up leaving this album unfinished web.archive.org/web/20131005012538/www.cultfound.org/chrishelmeinterview2.html

Barn Crow a bit more here en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seahorses

Please stop this you clown. This is half of the songs, and most of these are guide takes. There’s words you can’t even make out on this. Honestly an embarrassing claim.

@@-cityinthesky99 Oh fuck, it’s miles better than the majority of things you hear on the fucking radio. If nobody told you it was unfinished you wouldn’t know it was.

@@keithwellerlounge74 yes you would ffs. Some of the tracks are layered well and sound fantastic but come on, a fair few are just guide tracks and you can hardly make out some of the lyrics

@@-cityinthesky99 Hardly make out some of the lyrics? That’s common on many if not most released records. Especially if they put track upon track of overlays to make it really loud. Some even dull the vocals for effect. Now, if you subjectively did not like this album/playlist then that’s your personal feeling. But objectively, what we are hearing here are songs played by a band. The simplicity of good songwriting played well has value to the listener and in my opinion this was good enough to be released unfinished rather than not at all. By your logic, all live performances (including live albums) are not good enough for public consumption. I’m sure the band would have re-recorded these songs because that’s something that professionals do. But most people do not give a shit about minor imperfections, the particular artist’s vision, or terms like ‘guide tracks’. The average person just likes good music. This is good music. It would have worthy of being released because people would have enjoyed listening to it. Regardless of what the artist intended, I’ve listened to these track’s numerous times since I discovered it and have loved it. What’s more, when I shuffle The Seahorses on my IPhone I can’t tell which songs are from which album (being too young to have bought the first album when it came out.)

@@keithwellerlounge74 look at my channel. I’m a huge seahorses fan. I love all of these tunes, but don’t talk shite. That’s the bottom line. You said this “album”doesn’t need mixed, that’s foolish nonsense.

It’s on here elsewhere but a live version, check out “Moth” also.

Thank you for mentioning it, will check it out.

You'll only see it listed, maybe, as a bootleg. Officially, it's unreleased, if not unfinished. This is also the first I've seen it titled as "minus blue", so there's no telling how many bootlegs exist under how many names.

Jonathan Ettinger indeed, “Motorcade” was one.

They also played the unreleased songs City in The Sky and Moth that day, neither are on this bootleg but the TITP 98 recording isn’t too hard to find

@@-cityinthesky99 700 Horses, Tombraid, City In The Sky & Moth ;)

There's not a lot accurate about this upload unfortunately. Especially the "Complete" bit. Ha Ha

Chris said in an interview that he didn't like the lyrics and felt it was hard to get feel out of them if he's having to sing about lara croft so I assume that they did an alternative take with different lyrics

... and “Moth”, although those both are on KZfaq as live versions👍👍👍

Yeah, no stand out tracks really.

The first 2 tracks to me are absolute standouts and I'd wager would probably have been the first 2 singles. The rest of the album besides Dolphin is a bit forgettable though.

I think that is a great album, his voice is sh@te though

I wonder if it’s got owt to do with Rolling Stones documentary

Let’s hear some of your songs then superstar 😂

@@daveshaw7953 Am I not allowed to give my opinion then?

@@dalehanson7398 are your opinions usually that salty or do you have a particular disdain for The Seahorses? Did John Squire snub you in the 90’s? Chin up hun, do you need a hug? 🤗🤣

@@daveshaw7953 So because I don't agree with you you insult me, nice. I love DIY, one the best albums of the 90's for me, but I don't rate this, is that not allowed? Jeez, are you related to one of them or something.