The SECRET Anamorphic they WON'T discuss: Lensworks Legacy

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Nick Salazar

Nick Salazar

Ай бұрын

Okay, this is one of the coolest but simultaneously most bizarre things I saw at Cinegear 2024: the Lenswork Legacy anamorphic set. They had this front and center on their very public display, but wouldn't say anything officially on camera about it. So here I am, part of the hype machine, lapping it all up. But as it is a high-resolution rotating astigmatizer design, I'm happy to do so. This looks very interesting.

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@Herfinnur
@Herfinnur Ай бұрын
I don’t know about a discussion, but a proper video essay on sharpness and resolution and how many different things it can mean, with examples, is sorely needed
@nick_salazar
@nick_salazar Ай бұрын
I completely agree with you.
@neurojitsu
@neurojitsu Ай бұрын
Definitely want to learn more about this!
@Sodacake
@Sodacake Ай бұрын
i'm surprised that a Chinese manufacturer hasn't grabbed that patent into and made a set of anamorphic lenses of this time. they know there's a big demand or vintage lens recipes. just look at light lens lab, astrhori and thypoch re-making old Leica lenses.
@zebius4157
@zebius4157 Ай бұрын
I mean vazen sort of did by going with the Todd ao method for the 28mm and full frame lens
@cineflares
@cineflares Ай бұрын
Thanks for the shout out!! and agree these lenses are one of the most exciting lenses shown at Cinegear. 5:34
@nick_salazar
@nick_salazar Ай бұрын
Markus, is that you? I saw you poking around at Lensworks and just didn’t recognize you in the moment or else I would have said hello. Cineflares.com is a wonderful resource! Thank you for making it.
@markusforderer_asc
@markusforderer_asc Ай бұрын
Yep. Thank you. Always happy to hear people appreciate interesting lenses and understand their value as a storytelling tool. We are expanding the features on the platform to compare and learn more about specific lens attributes. Lots of lenses in the post pipeline. We will release more lenses soon. Love your channel.
@nick_salazar
@nick_salazar Ай бұрын
@@markusforderer_asc even if you didn't add a single lens or feature ever again, Cineflares.com would STILL be an invaluable tool and worth the price of admission. There's simply nothing else like it.
@OliKember
@OliKember Ай бұрын
You missed Caldwell Chameleon which are counter-rotating 1.79x - a cleaner version of the Apollos with slightly less squeeze. Thanks for sharing this!
@nick_salazar
@nick_salazar Ай бұрын
Oli, thank you so much! A quick search indicates there isn't much public footage, but what I did see looked very interesting.
@HeliosAnimation
@HeliosAnimation Ай бұрын
Someone asked the Atlas guys and apparently they said that rotating astigmatizer designs are really cool but prohibitively expensive
@nick_salazar
@nick_salazar Ай бұрын
I have a hard time believing that the design can’t be replicated economically, lo these 56 YEARS after the introduction of the Panavision C-series!
@ForestCinema
@ForestCinema Ай бұрын
That’s me. I asked their chief designer directly, he said the accuracy required is on par with high end watchmaking, and each lens requires in-depth tuning/setup.
@nick_salazar
@nick_salazar Ай бұрын
@@ForestCinema I believe the quote. I just have a hard time believing that's the final answer. There has GOT to be a way to make this work at prices lower than "so expensive that we will never sell a single lens to anyone on planet Earth." Manufacturing has come SO far in the last 60 years, in terms of our ability to make precision equipment at scale. For crying out loud, Xelmus can make rotating astigmatizers in the midst of active war! I guarantee that if enough people understood what they wanted (i.e. not just "anamorphic" but THIS KIND of anamorphic), and made it known, the manufacturing side would respond. Someone would find a way to do it. It's just that there isn't YET market pressure. Only a few fringe and very dedicated people, but fortunately that fringe is growing larger.
@MaxKissler
@MaxKissler Ай бұрын
@@nick_salazar The astigmatizer element has to be focussed nonlinearly in conjunction with the spherical elements. If you want only one focus ring on the lens it's a cam nightmare inside. It really isn't feasible to built one that you can buy unless you're paying a lot for it.
@BootStrapTurnerVideography
@BootStrapTurnerVideography Ай бұрын
@@nick_salazar It's a lens conspiracy! Manufacturers create a false price floor and carefully control to maximize profits versus releasing them less expensively. Sadly, you have to pay to play.
@aregal
@aregal Ай бұрын
Hey, Nick! It was great when my fiancée and I briefly ran into you and your wife at the Cooke booth on Saturday. It’s great to see that you’re super enthusiastic and curious about our art. Keep up the awesome content, Brother!
@nick_salazar
@nick_salazar Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! It was great meeting you too, and I think you and your lovely C70 setup are going to appear in some upcoming B-roll of mine :-)
@aregal
@aregal Ай бұрын
Oh sweet!! The flares on the 35-105 are “crazy”….probably because I have an ICE IR/ND on it that I got for dirt-cheap. Haha.
@epochfilmandphoto
@epochfilmandphoto Ай бұрын
Hey Nick, it was so great to meet you at NAB this year in Las Vegas. Thanks for posting this video. Your content is amazing. Please keep it coming. By the way, the interview that we shot with you at NAB was posted to CineD's KZfaq page as a short. If you want to go hunt it down and check it out. Thanks again.
@nick_salazar
@nick_salazar Ай бұрын
Great meeting you too! Thanks so much for the kind words. I'm at risk of being a random blowhard just ranting senselessly from his basement. But as long as there are kind people like you who want to hear my hot takes, I'll keep pushing them out. Thanks again!
@toneohm
@toneohm Ай бұрын
the Panavision C series lenses are 'thee' ultimate anamorphic lenses.. nothing compares.. so if companies can clone the design and sell it at consumer prices with PL mounts,.... that's a huge win for everyone.. what a dream scenario.., id be so happy
@Imhotep397
@Imhotep397 Ай бұрын
One thing I’ve wondered is what if you need a focus setting between the extremes? How do you even calculate the desqueeze of that?
@Shido_Lin
@Shido_Lin 18 күн бұрын
Is this a lens that normal people can buy or a lens like Panavision you can only rent?
@basekicks1133
@basekicks1133 Ай бұрын
It's not that simple. Counterastigmatisers are difficult to use mechanically. It uses expensive to manufacture, tiny, precise parts. Normal lenses have inexpensive, simple helicoids. The glass itself must also have excellent optics because it has a significant influence on flares and image characteristics.
@nick_salazar
@nick_salazar Ай бұрын
I get that. But we have precision manufacturing at consumer prices everywhere. Just look at semiconductors for crying out loud! Nothing more complicated than that, yet we’ve found a way to churn them out for next to nothing. If there’s a will, there’s a way.
@joshsmith3219
@joshsmith3219 2 күн бұрын
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