Up until she says the words "you could work for me" it's ambiguous because she's obviously having second thoughts but once she says those words I don't know how anyone could interpret what happens next as anything but full on brain smashing. Those words definitely triggered her. She's not the cleaning lady anymore. She's the captain. She's not going to work for her. It's a sad ending for Abigail though because there is no future scenario that doesn't end badly for her.

The ending scene feels so on point... At the moment Yaya realizes she found back her social status, when she is in her element again (the luxury resort hotel), she does not fear death anymore, she does not even look to Abigail when proposing her to work for her. At the moment money means something again, she feels untouchable once again.

The grenade scene was so satisfying.

Whether you believe she let her live or killed her says more about your relationship to the status quo. How people will ascend to power the moment they are given the chance and how they are not willing to let go of it. I did not expect this movie to be what it was. I went in without watching a trailer and im glad i did.

I think the real question we should be asking isn't if abigail killed yaya or not, but rather, why was the ending ambiguous? I think the film doesn't show us the outcome because it doesn't matter, what matters was that abigail was willing to kill yaya in order to maintain her privileged social status, in a similar fashion in which they killed the donkey earlier, social status is something so integral to us that maintaining it is comparable to an act of survival, in much the same way we have to kill to eat, Abigail had to kill to avoid losing her value in society. Yaya also is using her social status to survive (literally). very interesting and entertaining film

The fact that the actress of Yaya passed away shortly before the film released is what kills me

Just finished this film. Genuinely amazing to see how a film can tackle such a conceptual topic and still be so stupid entertaining.

rest in peace charbli ❤️‍🩹

So went back and watched the whole ending again, from the time yaya knocked on the life boat, as I found it very intriguing. The ending rings differently once you realize that yaya 100% knew that Abbie was about to attempt to kill her, on her second attempt to get her to go toward the elevator, on Abbie’s second refusal, yaya’s facial expressions show that she now is fully reading the situation: what the beach experience has meant for abilgail, and what going back into a resort means for her. The elevator symbolizes the end of this parallel life she’s created where she’s on top as “captain”, and a return to normalcy, where she’s seen as mere disposable help, the rich/spoiled guests who were just forced to submit to her are back to being seen as priority and firmly “above” her, and the real captain is a negligent drunk. What the elevator symbolizes for yaya, is a call back to after the dinner scene, when Carl was irate at her audacity and manipulation, and she was cornered in the elevator, as he kept opening the door at the last second to continue yelling and pointing aggressively with his hands. Basically symbolizing that if he wanted to get violent and hurt or kill her there, she would be screwed. And plants in her head that if she tries to run for the elevator to escape Abbie, she will likely fail. Yaya is now sitting in the rocks, internally seeking a way to empathize with and hopefully manipulate abbie into not killing her. She asks about her kids - abbie has none. When Abbie says she needs to use the bathroom before she goes, yaya is right there mentally, anticipating what’s next. She gazes off into the distance, pretending she is not processing the situation, the same way she pretends earlier in the film to not process it being time to pay for the bill. She hears abbigail’s footsteps in the rocks, they are loud and audible. She continues to stare off. Just as she hears the footsteps getting closer and speeding up for the attack, she begins to bargain. “I can help you Abigail.” She is now attempting to do the same thing that Carl accused her of at dinner. Pretending she did not see the waiter delivering the bill (now Abigail with the rock), instead, using her manipulative skill to say something at the right moment that would force the other person to behave in her favor. Whether her manipulation here is once again successful, I think is meant to be open ended, as while it seems to be having an effect initially, the final comment she makes about “you can be my assistant” is seen as both a “generous” offer and also a giant slap in the face to what Abigail wants to escape from and who she has become while on the island. It could even be seen as a passive aggressive dig, the same way she told Carl “well I do make more than you” when he was addressing his frustrations with the money situation. Carl running I believe is simply his slow-to-react processing of why Abbie was insistent to follow yaya, and to do so alone. And perhaps, why yaya even came to the boat and announce her intention to walk in the first place (to manipulate Abbie into coming with her). He was visibly pensive about it at the onset, and it finally dawned on him that one of them might be in danger. I’m not sure the goods peddler was meant to indicate Carl’s knowledge that the island was populated, as it could also make for an interesting situation, where the one person who is aware, is the one person who cannot move well or communicate. In that sense it could lend to the idea that Abbie kills yaya and goes back to continue her island fantasy, keeping everyone away from that part of the island deeming it “dangerous”, and the woman who had the stroke simply has to sit there and bask in the irony of it all, judging Abigail. At least I think I like that version better, haha. I have a few additional thoughts. I don’t think yaya was actually jealous of Carl hooking up with Abbie as she acted, because she had told him early on during her “ask me anything” honesty hour that this relationship was nothing more than a tactical decision. I think she was more so jealous that it was his looks and sexuality that was coming in handy to get what he needs and elevate him up the hierarchy, and not hers, as she was accustomed. This lends to the idea that it was her manipulating Abbie to come hiking with her, and that she is more in tune throughout the film than she lets on, like when she informed Carl he was being too aggressive with his hands while explaining himself to Abbie, and that the simple act of defending himself was bringing Abbie pain. In a way, she was the one there in that moment who instructed him to submit himself to Abigail. I have a theory that is far-fetched, but hear me out. It becomes clear that the black guy was most likely one of the pirates, as they accused him of being initially, when he somewhat acknowledges it with the Russian. He is the one who initially suggested that he and Carl sneak some pretzels from the bag that Abbie left. Abbie also was strangely the one to randomly orchestrate leaving them on the beach with the bag, while the women slept in the lifeboat. Abbie was quick to then use this to her advantage, by starving Carl as punishment, and then saying “since you didn’t eat, you come with me”, and basically extorting him sexually, basically saying if you want to eat, you’ll have to please me. The whole thing with Abbie showing up later than everyone else in the beached boat, loaded with water and snacks (things she could use as leverage). It just seemed very peculiar… all as a result of this random pirate attack… using grenades manufactured by a guest on the yacht… maybe the guy Carl got fired was her lover, and this was all her revenge, lmao. Also I think the watch the peddler has on was stolen off of one of the rich guys

Wow what a film so sad she passed so young what an epic last film to be in

The twists and turns in this film... And that ending!

Carl and Abigail getting together fits with all the things he tries to explain to yaya as thé equality of genders and him thinking its not about money or beauty or anything and wants a deeper connection. Hierarchy, classism, capitalism, gender roles and human nature depictions and thé ephemeral or absurdity of it all is so well depicted in this film. I really enjoyed seeing where it took us. It was original and different. I feel like the vendor from the resort who wonders at the end tries to sell the german lady who can’t speak English or well due to past stroke is seen by the others and carl realizes the outcome of yaya and Abigail already knowing about it too from their hike hence his frantic running to find them fearing what they could fatally do to one another to keep him.

It shocked me to the core when I found out the actress who played yaya passed away soon after this oh my God :(

I believe that Carl's running at the end can be interpreted in different ways, depending whether you believe Abigail kills Yaya... Either way, Carl is finally making a decision on his own, finding a way to escape the system he seems to be stuck in between (the Triangle of Sadness, if you will)

Abigail killed yaya. She came back and told the others that yaya slipped down and hit her head and died from bloodloss. Carl is running like that because he wants to see her. Notice how he's face is cut and bleeding. He don't seem to feel the pain because he's feelings numb and is overwhelmed that his lovergirl is dead.... He's running to find her

in the Philippines btw from where Dolly of abigail was... Yaya means maid.... literally lol abigail got triggered when she was told she could work for her....she was now the tribe queen... and i guess.... abby would not tell anyone they found the resort.... unless the merchant man was gonna see them all again that is when they will all find out

Best movie of the year!

One thing i'd like to point out: The scene where Carl and the black due were forbidden to eat fish, Carl smiled at Yaya and tried to charm her for some food. He smiled like wearing H&M not Balenciaga because luxury face is not affordable when you're not fed properly. On the yacht, Yaya took pic of her eating spaghetti and dumped the plate said she was gluten allergic but on the island she swallowed a full bag of pretzels sticks😂

this all gets very creepy once you know the actress who played yaya actually died after this

The true ending is Carl running away from both

What if Yaya was manipulating Carl to sleep with Abigail , so she could eat those pretzel every day? Think, for her, Carl was disposable, he was there with her in part one and in part two, cause It was "good for business" , why would be diferent in part three, actually, none of then changed their essence, except for Abigail. So it is plausible that she manipulates Abigail, cause she didnt have changed at all, but this time, she manipulated her last victim, she gambles her life purely for the satisfaction of been manipulative, but she probably dies like the donkey and Carl was running because he knew that facade is about to ending when the survivors met that salesman, he was trying to prevent at least Abigail to tell they were together, but he knew since Abigail left the boat to go for a walk with Yaya that Abigail was a threat to Yaya.

I loooooved Dolly as Abigail, what an interesting character. That is how you incorporate people from different backgrounds into a film.

May she rest in peace charlbie❤️

Yeah i think abigail kills her and yaya also screams in pain like the donkey which is why we see carl running at the end. He had decided to follow them because he realized something could go wrong or he was just worried about them talking about him and he started running once he heard yayas screams of agony. The ending makes no sense if you assume abigail kills her in one hit but it wouldn't be one hit because the donkey scene is a foreshadowing

Why is everyone confused by Carl running? He simultaneously realized that a resort was closeby, thanks to the trinket salesman, and was running up the trail to tell Yaya and Abigail as fast as possible

From Captain to the Assistant of a gluten free social media influencer model would be quite the fall. It's indicative of how she truly sees Abigail however nice she thinks she is being.

Think about the fact that Yaya knows Abigail has been sleeping with her boyfriend and you don't think that Abigail would give him up or put herself in a position where Yaya can get her revenge on her by manipulating her role as her "assistant"? No. I think she kills Yaya.

I disagree. YaYa (?) had said she's so manipulative at the start of the film, and we see her side eye Abigail and fully understand the situation. She probably weighed up she couldn't run to the elevator and fight Abigail off. So she puts an offer out there that's too good for Abigail not to take. It's a gamble, but Abigail knows she probably can't keep up being queen of the desert island for much longer, this is a way to get real status and money. YaYa is good at getting the measure of people and manipulating them for her own means. If it worked, of course she would be nowhere near Abigail again.

The most morbid part of this entire thing is, because of the ending everyone is wondering if Yaya is dead and what's crazy is, she actually died in real life before this movie came out this year, just insane how art imitates real life

O Captain, my Captain!

That’s Dolly’s personal take. What I appreciate about this film is it’s like a “DIY” ending. It is left to the audience to decide for him/herself how the ending should be and there is no right or wrong. My personal take is that Abigail did NOT.

whats the name of the song that was playing in that scene

The last images of the film are Carl running frantically through the jungle. What could prompt him to run in their direction? Maybe the horrific screams of his girlfriend? It doesn’t seem ambiguous to me. Abigail killed Yaya.

Rip charlby 😢

I think the other way, Abigail didn't kill Yaya, because if she killed Yaya when Abigail came back everything would be different, Abigail wouldn't get what she got before

"Above all, man loves freedom. He loves living to himself. He loves to belong himself." Leon Battista Alberti - L'inventore del Rinascimento

The thing is, the film makes it a point that everyone can have their own interpretation. Personally, it's actually rare that I see people discuss Yaya. It has been established from the start that she is manipulative. Who knows, she could have had a hand in manipulating Carl into sleeping with Abigail in order for them to get more food. More importantly, Yaya already knew that Abigail did not want to enter the elevator. And she realized that Abigail wanted to kill her. I believe she also weighed her chances of getting to the elevator and thought of a plan to save herself. Her putting up that offer could be a fail-safe plan but a huge gamble nonetheless. She put it up knowing Abigail is already sneaking up with murder behind her. I like to think that she is being incredibly observant of and listening to her surroundings at that very moment. The moment she hears any indication that Abigail still wants to proceed to kill her, she would get up and struggle to fight for her life.

All of you who said that Abigail didn’t kill Yaya - you got it wrong.

this movie is a massive mind-fuckery

There’s not way Yaya’s dead in my imagination of the ending, she knew Abigail didn’t want to leave the beach, she’s trying to convince her not to attack, and even if she did Yaya is younger and fitter. Also the woman who had the stroke could easily tell the others by written word about the vendor. And Carl running was in response to this information maybe, or he realised the threat to Yaya. Finally taking agency into his life.

Who knows song name from ending ?

I think that the ending makes you question why Carl ran 1. is it because that Abigail told him when she came back? or 2. Does he know what she is about to do when she leaves the ship? (that question is not fully true because Abigail before leaving said she needed some time with her (Yaya), which means that she needs time to explain to her what is happening between her and Carl) or 3. Abigail didn't do it and when Carl know that there was a way out of there he ran? but no from the video we know that Abigail did it

I was more curious about the "elevator & island resort" . . . Is that literal? A mirage? Or symbolic of the need to explore one's surroundings, put more effort into discovering the local resources in your "own back yard". I feel that the yacht's crew lady would have known about any resort in the area, but of course this isn't a film to taken absolutely literally or without some plot holes. Great film & exceptional tone, pacing performances & direction.

So weird that Charlbi died so unexpectedly after the film was released. RIP Charlbi Dean Kriek

RIP Charlbi…

That ending was definitely unexpected. Glad it didn’t have a happy sort of ending, more thought provoking then The Square too which I didn’t understand why that won the Palme D’or, this one I did.

The big question for me is was she planning to kill her from the moment she insisted on joining yaya or did she decide it after yaya saw the elevator.

For me, I think Yaya didn’t die and they went back with the survivors and told them about the resort. Then that scene where carl was running was him regretting what he did to yaya about their relationship.

If the answer is clear cut, you need to show the audience! If it’s ambiguous, don’t explain it. 😂

Well this interview foreshadowing irl, doesn't aged well

RIP.... Too soon

I think this film is all about what we think we need, vs what we actually need. And what we think we've got, vs what we've actually got. Yaya thinks she needs a rich man to provide for her. Only when she loses her man, and drops her idea of needing a man, does she finally decide to explore a little to find that she can in fact save herself without anyones help. But then her ego takes over, and she instantly gets so full of her own power that she forgets their entire situation. She think's she's won. As soon as she realises she's been at a Luxury Resort this entire time, she thinks she's back to her old life. Abigail is just a cleaning lady again. Her demise comes from her being so entitled that she doesn't even consider the danger she's in

in den wolken

It should be called the triangle of art

Basically; power (privilage) corrupts and absolute power (privilage) corrupts absolutely.

Abigail killed yaya because she said the wrong question she asked her if she could be her assistant

Just finished the movie and it was a wild ride. I loved the themes and comentary present in the movie... The directing and cinematography were absolutely fantastic. But I have to say I'm still bitter about that ending. I'm sorry, why can't we just have a conclusion to the story?! That movie didn't need an open-to-interpretation ending at all. It didn't really fit. But sure... as long as he's happy I'm happy I guess.

Yaya offering a Filipino an assistant job. Ironic since in Filipino, a "yaya" is a person who looks after someone.

I have an additional theory: Maybe Yaya is pregnant because in many african languages her name translates to mother or babysitter. Maybe she is testing Carl in the beginning if he is suitable as a dad and can provide. And when they are stranded on the beach, she is just trying to survive for the sake of the baby.

I thought the vendor and the elevator was just hallucinations

Carl and Abigail are so cute together!

I wanna know why Carl was running at the end?

I figured Abigail would be set up for life, the Russian salesman would repay her for saving him with a few watches and jewelry. She could sell the rights to the story. Her circumstances changed from the beginning. Killing yaya basically undoes any goodwill she would have had in the day or so before everyone sorts out they could have been "rescued" a day or so in. Felt like there were hints Abigail knew early on they were near a resort as well. Regardless, i know most of what we see wasn't really the point.

to me she comes out alive because Harris's character realizes what's going to happen & runs to save her.

Regardless of the ending we think it would be. I think it goes to say that power and position corrupt people. The fact that Abigail was one moment away from killing Yaya is enough proof of that. So, I believe as much as we want our kids to be of high intellect, we should also put as much effort to develop their sense of morality and ethics.

Charlbi is dead in real 😭😭

It’s not for no reason he was interpreting the donkey she drew saying she wants to be a leader but in a way scared and right after that she tries to fight over Karl! Abigail most likely killed her the way the donkey was killed after trying to be a leader but scared

So love harris dickenson.selos q sau ate nahalikan mo c harris.

Reminded me of Werner Herzog’s movies, because of the absurdist tone. But yeh all over the place indeed, there is an effort to get on the wave. Sad goddamn ending, ya ya was so honestly herself, most non belligerent frail people get hurt by the hollow and angry

To me, Abigail was close to killing Yaya however, she couldn’t manage to kill her after Yaya’s manipulative offers. She found the only way to preserve her statue in island is to kill Yaya, who has just found a way out. So that she could take the advantage of the situation longer, but not till death since there would be people out there searching for them as Dimitri had said in a scene. Carl had already sense that there was a tension between Yaya and Abigail, besides, he already have started to feel over with what’s between Abigail and him. He was running to prevent Abigail from causing damage to Yaya. I’d say in the end he caughts Abigail with that rock behind Yaya, and Yaya manipulating her. I am wondering now that if he’d risk his life to save Yaya? I think Abigail is strong enough to take two of them in a row 🤔

Cinematography wise, i think the running scene of Carl is going towards the direction where Yaya is, who screamed after Abigail hit her. You can observe in the previous scene that Abigail is going from the left side of the screen, hence the direction to the elevator is towards the right of the screen, same as Carl's direction. And yes, i think Carl already knew that Abigail would be a threat to Yaya when they left him in the lifeboat. He is convinced when he heard Yaya's scream. That's why he said the F word while running.

It's her opinion not director's😊

Maam Paula

As a leftist I don’t believe that Abi would kill Yaya. But the film makes it very clear that people are petty and cruel and even given an opportunity to start fresh will choose to do evil. No point in making it seem ambiguous.

Jajaja gente pensando que Abigail no mata a YaYa? Por favor! La mata porque se acuesta con Carl y si ya le robo el amante a Yaya? Pues si la mata según ella ya nada se interpone entre los dos.

Meanwhile, in real life ......

Aged like milk

She killed her own future.

So they killed a donkey that probably belongs to the resort or workers there.

De bara inte visar Ove Sundberg

I think Yaya is hallucinating about the resort - there is no resort (remember, I started with, I think). Abigail now the new leader and now structured in the new society they have formed, is jealous of Yaya, wants Carl only for herself, and hence murders Yaya. This shows the eventual form of greed we all come into in our social status. Carl running in the end is for us to guess and form our own opinion if he is running to save Yaya or Abigail, because he is sure one of the women will murder the other today. He may still be in love with Yaya, or he may now be in love with Abigail, or maybe he just sees his relationship with Abigail as so much luxury that he fears what will happen if Yaya murders Abigail. The movies intends all our interpretations to be correct depending on what we see and feel.

two women walking in a forest... well... one kills another.... sure

lmao she's funny

Shameful/hiteric laughter at the evil reveal

It’s not a secret. It’s just deeply stupid. The whole thing was stupid and a waste of time. I’m Embarrassed for everyone involved

Then thank God it is not up to a random actor. So dull.

Put simply the ending was terrible and too many writers these days and in the past 20 years think not giving a worth while ending is creative. Leave it to the viewer, no its a sign of poor writing. A story is nothing without its ending!

I found the ending to be a weak shortcut to wrap up the film. Even Hitchcock's The Birds accidentally faked an artistic ending with more flair. This one fell flat. A true pity because the rest of the film did what it tried to do.

i fell asleep on this movie 😂😂😂

I have seen this film, I cannot understand that it has received various awards, including the best film 2022 that the European Film Academy has awarded it?? This movie is NOTHING extraordinary, nor interesting, and the actors themselves, nothing spectacular, the story: irritating, inconclusive, confusing and incongruous! a mediocre movie, that would be my definition, I was about to leave the theater twice, but it was raining outside the premises! The ending is one of a movie... nobody understood it, well, it irritates me so much that it is, I think, and without exaggeration... one of the worst European cinematography of this 2022, I do not/do not recommend it at all! It hurt me to have paid 7 euros for such a bad movie! The best thing was the coffee after this bad movie that after 5 min. forget!

The pacing and editing was all over the place, a lot of it was jumbled and meandering. - The narrative was clumsily taped together and took way too long in places and far too short in others. Also,.. you forgot to make an ending to the film,.. as a viewer,.. thats fucking irritating. - you owe me 2 & an half hours AND one ending.

This movie is stupid and probably one of the worst movies of all time.

Yaya knew Abigail was going to try and kill her, that's why she said she could help her and Abigail is portrayed as a smart character and I think even she understands theyre on a luxury resort and will be discovered sooner or later and she would lose Carl if he learned Yaya had died