The Secret to Clapton's 80s Tone
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Күн бұрынToday, we’re recreating Eric Clapton’s iconic 80s rack tones, using gear that can be bought right off the shelf at your local guitar shop. Using a rack system like the one Clapton used is almost inconceivable today. With the help of guitarist James Deprato, we’re showing you how to imitate the tones used on songs like “Bad Love” and “Pretending” with gear that you can purchase and gig with reliably!
Table of Contents:
00:00 Introduction
00:40 Clapton's Rack Rig Breakdown
03:10 What Gear are We Using?
06:11 "Forever Man"
07:59 "She's Waiting"
09:49 "Bad Love"
12:01 "Pretending"
13:59 Conclusion
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@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
What gear have you used to recreate some of Clapton's iconic guitar tones? Let us know in the comments! Table of Contents: 00:00 Introduction 00:40 Clapton's Rack Rig Breakdown 03:10 What Gear are We Using? 06:11 "Forever Man" 07:59 "She's Waiting" 09:49 "Bad Love" 12:01 "Pretending" 13:59 Conclusion
@scottoharamusic 3 жыл бұрын
I was a big fan of mid80s Clapton and did it in 1987 or so with a mini rack setup: Ibanez UE405 Compressor and chorus then out to the Quad- patch I made under the name 'Clapton was God' eq to scoop the mids, touch of single slap delay, reverb and the all important LESLIE SPEAKER simulator - back to the UE405 for a second longer delay when needed...all in the FX loop of my frankenboogie (NZ made mesa boogie clone branded 'Rockit'.) with singlcoil pickups this produced a sound very close to the mid-80s clapton sound (nb Soldano was not a thing until 1988 so was not part of his sound on those mid 80s albums). For dirt there were two options - dirty channel on the amp, or TS10 upfront. Either worked for different types of his sound - e.g. TS10 for playing slide a la the 1985 live version of Motherless Children kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btaBgLJ3nraxgac.html and the amp for heavier, fuller distortion. I still have all this gear and still use the patch!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottoharamusic Nice...sounds like you were locked in! Amazing!
@scottoharamusic 3 жыл бұрын
forgot the Jim Dunlop Wah was at the start of the chain - gotta have that too
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottoharamusic yes indeed!
@daviddonlon4218 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry lol.
@blaskode Жыл бұрын
Some clarification: (1) There was no overdrive on the guitar, just the 25 db midboost. (2) He didn't have the Soldano rig in the studio until "Journeyman." "Behind the Sun" was recorded with Marshall Amps. (3) A big part of the Soldano Clapton sound were the Electro Voice EV12L Speakers he was using in his Marshall cabs.
@chrissterrmusic 3 жыл бұрын
When I was 15 I got the book, “Eric Clapton: The Complete Recording Sessions, 1963-1992” and used to sit and obsess over it. It has what guitar(s) he used for each session and was so cool to read/look over and over again while listening to one of the session calls he was doing listed in the book. It doesn’t mention amps and effects, so this was really fun to watch. Nice job, Mason and James!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and big shout out to James on this one!
@Treadplate367 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Journeyman was my first Clapton album, and I’ve always loved the tone on that era’s songs. I never realized he used so many of the positions on the Strat’s 5-way switch! The guy playing nailed it!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Heck yea!!! He’s mostly a middle position guy.
@gavinsomerville7690 2 жыл бұрын
There’s no Clapton like 80’s Clapton!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! No snow, no show ;)
@paristhalheimer 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the Journeyman and Rush sound track albums. Also, John Mayer's new song reminds me of 80s Eric Clapton.
@zhangke1350 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Rigs Doctor! I have been waiting for tips like this.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
You bet!
@antonioabad11 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for posting! Great vid and incredible playing.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! James killed it!
@everonlyallforthee 3 жыл бұрын
Killer stuff, Mason! And James is a monster. I love that era for Clapton. The Journeyman record from '89 is also great. That year he also did one with Elton John called "Runaway Train" from The One, and these kind of tones were all over it.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed! Thanks so much for watching and the support! James is the BEST!!!
@tompauljones2318 3 жыл бұрын
I had totally forgotten about some of these songs. I immediately opened up Spotify and went back to the 80s.Must adds fo sho to the Rock playlist! Thanks!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Mission accomplished
@PetriSyvakangas 3 жыл бұрын
What a great video guys, enjoying every sound!!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@gcoller 3 жыл бұрын
Got to see Eric and Mark Knophler when they did that tour back in 1988 I think. I was a teenager but it was so great and both men were each having a creative peak in that era.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Classic!! That would have been something to see!
@caleshtcincredibles 2 жыл бұрын
This great as I'm about to embark on Clapton Project band covering those 80s tunes , outstanding information thank you !
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Have fun!
@lamagique6336 Жыл бұрын
Behind the mask - give it a listen and listen loud!
@jm879 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy we have pedals now and we don't have to haul rack gear around. Great video Mason🤘
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Thank you!
@LeftyFenderman Жыл бұрын
Great video nicely done
@ccfmafia3301 3 жыл бұрын
Love me those 80s/90s strats with lace sensors 😍😍😍
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
All day
@snazzyarchitect 3 жыл бұрын
Good video my man, really enjoyed it!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
So glad you dig it! Thanks for watching!
@Musicology1975 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, tone and feel. Well Done👍🎸 thx
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@AndrewLynchMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, had no idea about that parallel gain stage thing! Great playing from James as well
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
It's one of the keys for sure!
@jasoncarmichael8588 3 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be great!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed!
@randykeown2062 3 жыл бұрын
That was great. Keep up the good work.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@micktheman6 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone else is making videoes about John maters tone on last train home but he was influenced by claptons 80s tone for that song so it’s great to see a video showing where it came from in this first place thank you
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Always good to reference the source!
@coondog209 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the cool Demo guys!😊
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TommyFedak 3 жыл бұрын
Latest John Mayer tone!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
He's definitely gotten into the 1980's Clapton for sure. Sounds great though!
@johncox2552 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode. Some of my favorites from EC. Great job.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏 thanks for watching
@Wileylikethehawk 3 жыл бұрын
This is really making me want to break out my Clapton Strat again. Fantastic work!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
You should!
@rhoff7272 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, excellent song choices, subscribed
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@SeanCorpuz31 3 жыл бұрын
Andertons was just talking about this earlier as they were doing a segment regarding "Last Train Home" by John Mayer. Nice to see the parallels. :) thanks Mason and Vertex Team
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!!
@curtischurch1905 3 жыл бұрын
I was just listening to these tunes thinking about how to comp them! Thanks for the video
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@johnwave2827 3 жыл бұрын
Just awesome!!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@miaoupha2370 3 жыл бұрын
Great playing!!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
James is amazing!
@SimpleManGuitars1973 3 жыл бұрын
For my Father's Day present this year I'm getting to see Clapton live in Nashville from the 11th row. Can't wait just to be in the same room with him.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
OMG, amazing!
@berkc06 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@bwm5150 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, always loved this period for Eric too! The fact that some hate this era of tone makes me love it even more 😅
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
I love it...great tones here!
@gregmize01 3 жыл бұрын
NAILED IT!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@jasoncarmichael8588 3 жыл бұрын
Great playing for sure!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed!
@donjoefonzarelli9785 3 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable and informative video thanks
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@randyharrington7530 3 жыл бұрын
Damn great video Mason. This era Clapton is very special for me. Holy Mother tone is great too
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Me too...great tones!
@jerryvahnknight218 3 жыл бұрын
This was awesome! Went by way too quick! I’d love to see all eras of Clapton, and maybe a deeper dive on this one where it gets into greater details, like really geek out on it! Thanks so much!! Fantastic!!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes...a Clapton retrospective over the eras!
@jerryvahnknight218 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc thanks! I’ve already watched this a half dozen times. You guys really nailed those lead tones!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@jerryvahnknight218 James killed it!
@johnpandolfino8663 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job guys.....bravo
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening
@alexguitarfan6447 3 жыл бұрын
This was excellent really enjoyed thanks :-) be great if you did a full 80s era detailed rig rundown style video on E.C eg going through each rack piece one by one...
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed! Rig Autopsy!
@alexguitarfan6447 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc :-)
@fabriziopolonia4156 Жыл бұрын
if on the one hand it is right to congratulate you for this very interesting work of sound research and effects setting... on the other hand I think of the magnificent, visceral and simple sounds that Clapton obtained in his best records of the seventies with Blackie, Brownie , two pedals and simple combo amps and I realize that the super-racks of the 80s were a mix of advertising contracts and status symbol ostentation (the more stuff, leds and knobs the better!)...but d 'besides that was the time and that's how it worked. Clapton currently tours the world with two Fender Bandmaster combos (replicas built by Dumble), three Strats, a wah and a Leslie, and the sound is still excellent. 😅
@GazMoz78 3 жыл бұрын
Playing is fantastic!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Heck yea...James Rules!
@philf4086 2 жыл бұрын
Bad Love sounded the best, and kudos to James for those bends!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
James is amazing, thanks for watching Phil!
@santrixhimself3679 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds great! I especially like the forever man tone. Sound kind of modern and kind of classic at the same time
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed! Thanks for watching!
@paddykirkman872 10 ай бұрын
Love the Clapton tone from this era and I was a proper Clapton fan than... i thought Behind the sun was done with the old blackie and Marshall amps as he toured after that and did Live Aid with his Marshall JCM 800s and even an old Roland Space echo during that tour... love that sound.. Layla on Live Aid got me hooked on copying his stuff...then August and Journey Man saw the Soldano and the new rig? Great video tho... Love your stuff...
@markvanslyke294 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a pianist, organist, keyboardist, and we use our pedals a little differently obviously but i could swear that on She's Waiting, he's using some kind of chorus pedal or rack module... there was a resonance his tone had in the 80s that usually sounded like some chorus was present, you can especially here this in live 80s versions of Wonderful Tonight with the Soldano rig, but maybe it's just me
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
And that's why we used chorus on many of these tracks and talked about that in the original rig.
@alexguitarfan6447 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait :-)
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, me too!
@jaredthode562 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Clapton shirt James is wearing!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
No Snow, No Show.
@simply3141592654 3 жыл бұрын
I love those tones - especially into August and Journeyman before he did the From the Cradle album.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Heck yea!
@roddersonfire 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Great video. Thanks for the images showing the pedals you used on each section of each song. Just wondering if you could give us some direction to the settings you used. I understand there was to be a link somewhere? Keep the great work Rod
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Here are the BPMs and keys for each song: Pretending Key: A BPM: 98 Forever Man Key: D BPM: 111 Bad Love Key: G BPM: 125 She’s Waiting Key: C BPM: 95
@Official_Cyberwolf_Ledgic 3 жыл бұрын
OMG Thank you @VertexEffects Mason for putting this together and putting this out! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Now I’m constructing this together.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏 my pleasure
@bobbaumeister5243 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Now I bought a huge Board to build this EC-System! Clapton is god!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Right on! I dig your style!
@immortalobelisk6302 5 ай бұрын
Man I love the rack era - so much equipment for such dull tones 😂
@mitchellwiley9377 3 жыл бұрын
Can't help but notice that when talking about the 6L6s you showed a pic of the tonemaster Fender which I believe is solid state! Killer video though, you've helped my rig in so many ways!
@paulcowart3174 3 жыл бұрын
Well the original Tonemaster was 4 6L6's Just started watching Will see
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t catch it, I just told our Videographer to put a twin reverb on there, that was probably the first clean image that he saw there was a PNG - he’s not a gear guy to know the difference. If that actually send somebody down a rabbit hole, I’ll be shocked.
@mitchellwiley9377 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc a small error in an otherwise flawlessly video
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellwiley9377 we'll take it out the videographer ;)
@JordanAF808 3 жыл бұрын
7:21 sweet move with that pinky cranking up the volume and then adjusting it again!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
trick of the pros!
@simply3141592654 3 жыл бұрын
Wow - they nailed that on Forever Man.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
James killed it on that!
@safuan3573 3 жыл бұрын
This is very cool.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@andrekovacs7954 3 жыл бұрын
What a great review of what I agree was EC’s best tone, and also awesome impersonation from James! I hoped you would also cover the tones from From The Cradle, particularly the ones using hollow-body Gibsons. Cheers
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Full credit to James on this one, he did great!
@andrekovacs7954 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc I think that EC also used an Univibe effect for the solo of Bad Love (the Hendrix style with a Wah), but I never managed to find out if Pete Cornish rack-mounted one for him, like he did for David Gilmour. Cheers
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrekovacs7954 there was no Uni-Vibe on this rack...you might have been hearing a Leslie simulation or a slow chorus.
@andrekovacs7954 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc Sorry, I meant Univibe in the solo tone from Pretending and not Bad Love. Cheers
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrekovacs7954 Pretty sure it's Leslie or Chorus.
@jchabo82 3 жыл бұрын
This wouldn't have anything to do with John Mayer's new song would it? Lol! Cool video man.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, you can easily verify this by seeing our social media ans that we were posting about this over a month ago when we filmed it.
@jcjohnson80 3 жыл бұрын
👌👌exactly what brought me to this video dude
@jaycareaga9929 3 жыл бұрын
Eric’s first rack was a Bradshaw rig he got after seeing Steve Lukathers during the recording of Behind The Sun. Luke is playing on Forever Man with Eric.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes...similar set up however, with some changes. Still used the Tri Stereo Chorus, Roland CE-1, Roland SDE-3000 in a parallel mixer with 2x Dean Markley amplifiers that we're like 120W JCM800's with Reverb. Still the same basic overall tone.
@barkeater9606 Жыл бұрын
I always liked his tone on Bad Love 👍
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
The best!
@corbinbyler6332 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so excited I can hardly stand it!!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in!
@trevorgwelch7412 3 жыл бұрын
This is a truly excellent video . Could you do one on Robin Trower 's 1975 Winterland Concert . ?
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! We'll have to check it out!
@simply3141592654 3 жыл бұрын
I see videos like this and wonder if Clapton will see it at some point. Hope he will bring out some of his 80s hits again live while he is still playing on stage. Maybe even bring out the Soldano one more time.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed!
@GuitarSmartsPodcast 3 жыл бұрын
The SLO100 Head came out in 1987, two years after Forever Man was released. Clapton was still using MusicMan Amps up until around 1987 when the SLO100 came out. Blackie was still his main guitar on the Behind The Sun album also, no Clapton Strats yet. Great approximation of those tones though, and recorded so well!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Correct, however there were versions of the Clapton strat and mid-boost that were being used at that time and have been confirmed by his tech. The overall sound from that era is what we were going for, not one specifically and the Dean Markley amps that he used in the mid-80's were pretty close to a Hot Rodded Marshall JMP/JCM800 type sound - but I think that rig was just in stereo, but used the SDE-3000, Tri Stereo Chorus, and DBX160x compressor...so many of the same elements in the rack. Our attempt was more "broad" but I think we're in the ballpark in spite of that in any case.
@GuitarSmartsPodcast 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc I think your attempt is awesome, sounds fantastic and I've always loved that mid-boost sound from back then! I think his 80's tones were the best, a lot of people disagree but the live sound he got on the 13 piece band nights on the 24 Nights live album are just beautiful. I think it's really cool that you've done this, and shown everyone a new approach to achieving those tone without having all the gear. Thanks for making superb content!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@GuitarSmartsPodcast I'm with you 100%, great tones there!
@Diax1324 Жыл бұрын
It's really interesting how different Eric's Soldano rig was to Mark Knopfler's. I was perusing a fan site, and I was surprised to learn that Mark Knopfler's rig involved the two Soldano heads being utilized one after the other, with the guitar tech needing to drastically change settings between the amplifiers between songs. They used both Marshall cabinets whilst in use, and were simply switched back and forth between each song. Can you imagine that? Having enough "fuck you" money to ask for ". . .an expensive reverb." (Mark's words) and just having a tech do all of your channel switching and sounds by hand song-to-song. A fascinating example of pre-midi amplifiers and what went into enormous stadium shows.
@bouzoukiman5000 3 жыл бұрын
Good job
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@allancrow134 3 жыл бұрын
Clapton's "Just One Night" double live album with Albert Lee was his best tone.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
👍 nice
@pabloperez4063 Жыл бұрын
There, the guitar was straight into the amp, which was a music Man. But it got better through the years until 1983. The same rig. There are some bootlegs in KZfaq, which are very similar to JUST ONE NIGHT, but the guitar sounds much fuller, and Eric is also more powerful
@allancrow134 Жыл бұрын
@@pabloperez4063 I read somewhere(back then) that Knopfler was using MM amps around that same time. I went out and bought one. Dire Straits 'Dire Straits, and JON were very inspirational for me when I was younger, still love them. Cheers Bro. :)
@12nicky34 Ай бұрын
That album has some of Eric’s best playing on it too. Double trouble is one of the best live guitar solos ever recorded in my opinion. Just like a prisoner from behind the sun album is the best guitar solo of all time for me.
@cobowe 3 жыл бұрын
I use a 89 Clapton strat with a peavey delta blues.... job. Done
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
That's still a cool rig!
@tmitz73 2 жыл бұрын
Great Episode Mason, I saw Eric at the Medowlands in the 80's on the Journeyman tour.... was mind blowing!! Influence on me till this very day!!! Stay Groovy!!!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
I bet it was amazing!
@michaelmattson3515 3 жыл бұрын
Gibson SG, Fender 40th anniversary Stratocaster with Lace Sensor pickups, Vox Wah, Boss compressor, Boss overdrive, Echoplex & a Fender Tremolux amp head with the 2 x 10 cab. I even blocked my Stratocaster bridge.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!!!
@ndrsplvdvlll 2 жыл бұрын
Looking for some help on setting Cream and Clapton's tones on Boss GT100..
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm...probably use some old Marshall amp settings with 4x12 Greebacks and a Fuzz sound into it.
@jackppursel 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mason, I've got a Boss ES-5 and a Strymon Mobius. The Strymon Mobius has a send/return for putting modulation before or after other pedals. I just got the idea of putting the Es-5 in the send and return loop of the mobius in order to free up a spot in the ES-5's loop. Do you foresee any issues with this?
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
You can do that and use the send and return around the input and output of the entire switcher and use MIDI to control it and turn it on/off.
@Corporations8MyBaby 3 жыл бұрын
1. The push to use chorus was really big among those tasked to help Eric produce hits in the 80s when he was, let’s say… Not as inspired…🥃🥃🥃… even he mentioned that it kind of harmed the legacy of those recordings. But it led to the best tone of his whole career live… In the 90s! I’m glad you’re not overdoing the chorus in these examples. 2. My Boomer family and mentors are always complaining that he sounded best with his Les Paul and the blues breakers in 1966. But if you turn off the chorus, he is kind of playing Gibson (mid circuit) into Marshall (SOldano) … they kind of got their wish! 😂
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and for sharing this comment! Hope you dug it!
@paulcowart3174 3 жыл бұрын
Love these types of demo's....I'm just getting on a journey of streamlining my gear and effects To start I got a lovely hardtail Troposphere strat and a Tone King amp and starting my board up with a Strymon Deco which can handle the modulation/echo and saturation that I need w an always on pedal Basically trying to keep pedals to a minimum so a good wah pedal and lead boost Don't even think I'm going with fuzz Haven't bonded with one yet after a dozen tries so F it LoL I've an Xotic Super Clean boost which might fit the bill but definitely trying to go with quality not quantity on this journey So really thinking about going w a Vertex boost for lead Hearing good things about them Good stuff Mas keep em coming
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
its a good one, I think you'll love the Boost and it's transparency and the volume EXP control is cool too.
@paulcowart3174 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc Probably wouldn't even use that function so was wondering if version 1 is the same circuit just w/o that feature ?
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulcowart3174 v1 is the same, also has the EXP feature but is almost twice the size, v2 is much smaller.
@jonorourke4857 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Forever man was recorded with Blackie and god knows which amp in the studio though likely to be his tweed twin or indeed a JCM800. I have been chasing that particular tone for some time. Taking into consideration production mods - it is very similar to the tone he had on the soundtrack for Edge of Darkness. At home I have a Marshall 50w Vintage Modern combo (purple tolex!) and as well as an EC strat with Noiseless, I have a vintera 50s strat. The vintage modern has a tone stacking option with two channels and a dirty great 'fat' type switch for more mids. I can get that tone using that set up (the V50s pick ups are weaker than the Noiseless and easier to get a rounded 'older' sound - sometimes the noiseless can be a little sterile.'. I would also highly recomment a pedal called a Vertex Ultraphonix which is basically a dumble clone - as well as (trust me) a Joy Taichi dumble clone. Good strat pick ups through either of those into an amp with good Middle EQ will get you clapton tone of circa 83 to 85 and then turn the pedals up and fiddle with their mid response and you will get a more modern (say 2004 to 2016) EC tone. The Soldanos are hard to emulate. EC had so many clean and crunch options on those amps that I guess you needed to be in his head on stage to know exactly what he was doing. Add to that he was using a JCM 800 to drive a leslie pedal and that again is another tone.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Jon! Thanks for the feedback, so glad you dig the Ultraphonix! It never leaves my board! A lot of the Behind the Sun was a Dual Dean Markley 120W set up which was basically a JCM800 with reverb.
@jonorourke4857 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc That’s new info. I knew he had the DMs but thought they were for stage only as it was around 84 he was using a mixture of amps (Pros and cons tour with Roger Waters in stage was different to what he used to recording the album. One of the engineers told me he used a Twin in studio for pros and cons and Edge of Darkness).
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonorourke4857 I read that there were even some JC120's in there during the recording as well as four 4x Input JCM800's.
@zeusapollo8688 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonorourke4857 good album
@SimpleManGuitars1973 3 жыл бұрын
Forever Man is by far his best 80's sound to me and one of my favorite solos ever. When that solo kicks in it's one of the most gut punching tones ever from a Strat. It's brilliantly simple but ridiculously effective. It's a perfect example of how something as simple as "attitude" can make more of a difference than technical wizardry.
@ducacalainho 3 жыл бұрын
Those lace sensor gold sounds fantastic.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Total sleepers
@ducacalainho 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc I had one of those sets in the 90’s and trade it for some EMGs :-(
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 we’ve all been there
@miaoupha2370 3 жыл бұрын
I hated those pickups because I thinknthey needed a full effect rack to sound good. Straight into an amp, not so much.
@ducacalainho 3 жыл бұрын
@@miaoupha2370 they are pretty much like the fender custom shop 69, with low resistance (about 5,9 k). I agree that straight to the amp they are kind of thin, but since they are “humbuckers” they handle overdrive very well.
@nedward5871 3 жыл бұрын
Really nice - Pretending lead guitar is missing the wah but otherwise nailing the tones.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Shucks...
@nedward5871 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc No worries - that whole album is drenched in wah, as is the follow up "24 Nights Live" album. Love this video of how with a few pedals you can get pretty close...
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@nedward5871 For sure, and with just a Deluxe Reverb resissue no less.
@nedward5871 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsIncSo good - helping to lay waste to the "if only I had xx amp and xx rack effect..."
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@nedward5871 Where else does Clapton's dual SLO rig get paired down to a mixer and two $200 guitar pedals and reissue 1x12 Fender...pedals have certainly democratized a lot of these big rigs over the years and just keep getting better and better in my mind.
@aintgottime2bleed78 3 жыл бұрын
The middle tone control is the TBX, a passive tone control that rolls itself out of the circuit as it approaches 10. Fender has used it on several guitars. The BOTTOM tone control is a 25db active midrange boost. While these guitars are hotter than a passive strat with the volume on 10, there is no built in overdrive.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Well...sorta...there are two stages and each adds a different distortion. This guitar uses dual gang pots for the guitar tone control. I think the "sound" is in the electronics, not the passive tone up front. There is a dual pot tone control, then a gain stage treble boost, then a volume control that feeds the mix control on one end and also feeds another boost circuit. The mix control mixes the treble boost on one end with a low and high cut circuit (mid boost). The second stage has a topology for a totally different distortion so the mix circuit changes from treble boost with a distortion spectra to a mid boost with a different distortion spectra. The output impedance is very high and varies with the mix control setting. However, since the pickups are buffered (do not see the cable capacitance) the high output impedance will be treble cut only like a tone control, not the frequency peaking shift, Q and amplitude change with rebel rolloff that you get from normal passive guitar pickups and guitar cable.
@m0j0b0ne 3 жыл бұрын
I'd use a TC Nova Delay or Nova Repeater; the latter has a subtle modulation available and both have the essential ducking delay. Klark-Teknik still sells a rack chorus that's under two bills and does the Dimension C/D thing, likewise one of TC's smorgasbord line, the Boss Dimension re-issue and the Waza CE-2 which doesn't quite have the desired thickness of the venerable CE-1, but might do. Absent Lace Sensors and a TBX circuit, I'd probably stack a Nobels ODR1 and TS9 and see where that leads; might be better with something like a Klon clone replacing one of the other two, (for greater transparency) but I wouldn't run the whole mess through completely clean amps, and I doubt Clapton did, either. He may in fact have used different gear live than in the studio to get essentially the same sounds, but he certainly got them, because I heard them all on the Journeyman tour.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Nova is cool, one of my faves in fact, but not as 2290 as the Flight Time. None of the chorus’ you mentioned are like the 1210 or the Tri Stereo. I think we could have got closer with the TSC choice with something like a Lil Wave or even a Neunaber Tri Chorus. But the SCF is very 1210 ish. You can buy a disaggregated TBX and house it into a pedal if you want. I’ll also show you how to do it in a future video.
@TheyreStillOutThere 3 жыл бұрын
That drive sound on Pretending is thiccccccc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Heck yea! The Clap-Tone!
@paulcowart3174 3 жыл бұрын
Journey Man was my favorite along w Dominoes
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Two greats!
@rikmcrae 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the setting in the flight time? I didn’t realise EC used much delay.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
We just set it to the BPM of the song with a few repeats on I think only one lead tone. Pretending Key: A BPM: 98 Pretending Key: A BPM: 98 Pretending Key: A BPM: 98 She’s Waiting Key: C BPM: 95
@simply3141592654 Жыл бұрын
Gotta try the new SLO pedal from Soldano now. Try also the Keeley Dyno My Roto
@adam159 7 ай бұрын
Dyno my roto is the one for this tone 🙏🏼
@ashleygriggs7392 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best Clapton tone vidio iv seen
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks! All credit goes to James' playing!
@simply3141592654 3 жыл бұрын
The Keeley "Dyno My Roto" is great for 80s style chorus. check it out. A Keeley Katana boost can also help get the sig model thing.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
It's not very TSC, but the look of it is. The closest I've found is the Red Seven Wave, Neunaber Tri Chorus, or the Free The Tone Tri Avatar. All of them are digital except the Red Seven, which is analog but mono.
@paulcowart3174 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that D-my-R is cool...does it get just Leslie if you want that ? I'm looking to mix the chorus from my Deco w a rotary pedal for a UniVibe alternative Thanks
@simply3141592654 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc The Keeley Dyno My Roto is attempting to reproduce the sound for a mono signal
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@simply3141592654 I don't find it that close, I've had a few come through.
@sidewaysrain7609 3 ай бұрын
No mystery here. Lace sensor pickups in a strat Plus!
@geo5772 3 жыл бұрын
I feel totally inadequate, I thought I pretty much nailed most of these sounds/tones with an MXR Red Compressor, a fuzz face box and my 64 white Fender Bassman...oh well, just don’t have the bux to do any closer.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
A scooped OD/distortion pedal will definitely do a lot.
@scottrand9767 3 жыл бұрын
Nice wah playing. Tone is in the foot!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
As the old saying goes...
@pertrot 3 жыл бұрын
Just my 5 cents; the old Boss LS-2 is great for parallell mixing in two effects in to your dry signal, and its a 50$ pedal!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Not exact the same as this since you can't control the mixes of both loops and the dry I don't think, but you could choose several parallel mix options.
@llamasjosue 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mason. I just bought a FTT Future Factory to get close the the sound of those 80s rack delays. Should I have gone with the Flight Time instead?
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
I think they sound pretty close. The Future Factory is stereo so that's cool too.
@philipreeves5465 2 жыл бұрын
Be great to see u get these tones on the HX stomp. Most folks can afford one of them units
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
You can do the parallel signal paths here for sure using this blueprint on the HX pedals.
@RodrigoRockChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Behind Sun was a great CD... a lot of great songs there...If I remember right Phil Collings produced that album.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed!
@jaycareaga9929 3 жыл бұрын
3 songs were produced by Lenny Waronker and Ted Templeman.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaycareaga9929 great tunes!
@CaptPostmod 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I stopped watching That Pedal Show. I'd mentioned Clapton's tone from this era in the comments. And they took the time to personally reply that nobody liked that tone. And then I didn't want to be friends with them anymore :D
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe now that Mayer’s on board with it they’ll change their tune
@stevenvandemsky7290 3 жыл бұрын
But they were right! Clapton never had a good sound imho, but his generic cheap plastic 80s sound has got to be one of the worst guitar sounds of all time. Rigdoctor did a great job to replicate it though, but I can‘t think of anyone who wants to sound like that?!?
@jasonkina7208 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenvandemsky7290 John Mayer slowly raises his hand
@stevenvandemsky7290 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonkina7208 Hahaha. Like him or not, but Mayer has a great sound…
@genethomas2000 2 жыл бұрын
Forever Man was recorded using the original Blackie and a Boss Heavy Metal pedal. Way before the Claton strat came out.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
With 2x Dean Markley's in parallel akin to a Hot Rodded JCM800 with his Bradshaw system.
@robmerrill9894 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the Music Man hes plugged into you can see at 2:25 behind him is fake
@robmerrill9894 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zs10qbVi2MCaeWg.html
@guitardave 3 жыл бұрын
Not wanting to be pedantic, but the photo at 0:45 - that’s from Knebworth 90. Great video though :-)
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
If there’s an Armani suit and loafers, it’s really all the same look for about a five year period
@Starch1b2c3d4a 3 жыл бұрын
Cool
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@maxsimmons1175 Жыл бұрын
I'm totally new to pedals. I'm chasing a Layla (1971) tone. I've got a Clapton Signature Model Strat (with 25dB boost) and a Fender tweed 57 Champ reissue. What do you recommend for between the guitar and the amp?
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Honestly, he used nothing, just the guitar and amp...not much more. You could use a boost to get some more break up out of the amp. You could try out Vertex Boost for more of a colorless boost that's just going to drive the amp harder, or something like a Treble Booster to get a little more gain and grit.
@maxsimmons1175 Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc Thanks! I never thought of a treble boost. I've been told just to "turn it up," but I already can't stay in the room with it much above half. Even loud I can't get the rough and dirty tone of the power chord section especially. I surmise that the new Clapton strat just can't get as gruff as Brownie. Thanks again!
@aphotosyntheticworld Жыл бұрын
@@maxsimmons1175 there are quite a few products to regulate actual volume of your amp so you can crank the amp but still keep it as a reasonable volume. Just look up on KZfaq "how to play a loud amp quietly."
@matt_mullins_guitar 7 ай бұрын
@@maxsimmons1175 The modern Clapton Strat probably gets considerably more gain than Brownie. You'd probably have to really crank the Champ. Gotta remember that Eric was used to playing much larger amps (100 watt Marshall stacks) with Cream and so a cranked Champ compared to a cranked Marshall stack was still very quiet in comparison.
@VBarre 3 жыл бұрын
Guess we are all jumping on the same train now
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Cause of the Mayer song? Well...if you look back at our social media, you'll see this was recorded over a month ago, not a reaction to anything "of the moment".
@VBarre 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc but me watching this is XD
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