The secrets of Apple Lightning - Part 1

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stacksmashing

stacksmashing

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Apple's proprietary Lightning connector is very well known. But do you know how it works? How is a cable authenticated? What can you do with Lightning? In this video we dive into the details of Apple's Lightning protocol - also known as SDQ and IDBUS!
Links:
- Twitter: / ghidraninja
- Patreon: / stacksmashing
- Nyan Satan's Lightning page: nyansatan.gith...
- My DEF CON talk on Lightning: • DEF CON 30 - stacksmas...
- Saleae Logic Analyzer Plugin: github.com/nezz...

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@JohnnyUtah488
@JohnnyUtah488 Жыл бұрын
Like all true professionals, you make it look so easy! Can't wait for part 2!
@xy4489
@xy4489 Жыл бұрын
It is easy, tho.
@tomikun8057
@tomikun8057 Жыл бұрын
@@xy4489 only for professionals
@CloroxBleach0
@CloroxBleach0 Жыл бұрын
@@xy4489it is not
@DeyaEldeen1
@DeyaEldeen1 Жыл бұрын
part 2 please!??
@MR.BONES007
@MR.BONES007 Жыл бұрын
@@tomikun8057not really he just showed you how to do it
@DodoLP
@DodoLP Жыл бұрын
let me guess its just USB that is missing U
@Leonard_MT
@Leonard_MT Жыл бұрын
They should've called it the ASB cable, Apple Serial Bus. At least that would be honest because it's not fast nor universal.
@RC2225
@RC2225 Жыл бұрын
@@Leonard_MT shouldn't it then be called adb?
@lesoup-mxd
@lesoup-mxd Жыл бұрын
@@RC2225 not to be confused with Android Debug Bridge
@WalterMan
@WalterMan Жыл бұрын
@@RC2225 Apple already made a connector called Apple Desktop Bus (ADB) and it was used for keyboards and mice.
@wesleymays1931
@wesleymays1931 Жыл бұрын
@@RC2225 What would the 'd' be short for?
@rikschaaf
@rikschaaf Жыл бұрын
stacksmashing: See you again soon * Five months later... *
@Tyranosaurus_Xer
@Tyranosaurus_Xer 6 ай бұрын
Its been six now
@hampus23
@hampus23 3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@webluke
@webluke Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see the results from cheap knock-off cables and other 3rd party cables to see what they spit out and if it is legitimate. The extra stuff in the cable and the communications explains the licensing Apple pushes and the increased costs. It also explains why Apple would not want to go USB-C because they would lose money, data, and control over the cables.
@Henry14arsenal2007
@Henry14arsenal2007 Жыл бұрын
Doesnt help when their shitty cable works with speed standards from the year 2000.
@HoloScope
@HoloScope Жыл бұрын
They did a gotcha and limited their new iPhone 15 base models to USB Type C with USB 2.0, but with the Pro Model having Thunderbolt. Touche Apple
@madog1
@madog1 Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering the same thing, Apple cables are the worst for durability at the stress area where the cable meets the end. Some manufacturers do a much better job on the cable build, they last a lot longer.
@m7mdzuhair9gamer61
@m7mdzuhair9gamer61 Жыл бұрын
They will soon
@Atixtasy
@Atixtasy Жыл бұрын
@@HoloScope the EU hit them once AGAIN with their bullshit and said they cannot limit any of it. lol
@Th3W1zz4RD
@Th3W1zz4RD Жыл бұрын
I always kind of knew there was something going on. My "genuine" apple cable would only briefly show a charge symbol before the phone would no longer respond. It seems the "genuine" chip in my cable was "taught the wrong response" hehe. Brilliant video, even a simple user like me can understand, and your graphics/editing are top notch! Another sub for your stack ;)
@StarmenRock
@StarmenRock 6 ай бұрын
this is so insane. the cables are a genuine and certified scam and people are so jolly about it
@_yaseen
@_yaseen Жыл бұрын
I always get excited when I see a new stacksmashing upload! Looking forward to the rest of this series
@ME0WMERE
@ME0WMERE Жыл бұрын
stack smashing detected (core dumped)
@Jamboreeni
@Jamboreeni 9 ай бұрын
Waiting for part 2 😋
@DanDan-zs6wg
@DanDan-zs6wg Жыл бұрын
Where’s part 2? :(
@hellopsp180
@hellopsp180 7 ай бұрын
part 2 when :(
@ballsdeepgamingcommunity9928
@ballsdeepgamingcommunity9928 10 ай бұрын
Excellent instructions/explanations. Your voice clarity,tempo, and video presentation for some reason makes it easier to understand, learn, while also retaining the info. I had to sub and comment with my thanks for your work and expertise for me the layman.
@john.dough.
@john.dough. Жыл бұрын
I haven't done much research yet, but I'd be very interested in comparing the advantages and disadvantages of USB-C vs Lighting. Anyway, great video!
@makuru.42
@makuru.42 Жыл бұрын
Advantage: more money for apple Disadvantage: literally everything else
@JamesR624
@JamesR624 Жыл бұрын
@@makuru.42 Advantage; More durable than USB-C since there is no middle part to break. Advantage: Smaller than USB-C and takes up less space.
@griffin8062
@griffin8062 Жыл бұрын
@@JamesR624 Is it more durable? At least in my experience, USB-C has been way more durable. Lightning cables tend to short out between pins 7 and 8
@operator8014
@operator8014 Жыл бұрын
​@@JamesR624 Lol! I have 9 year old USBC cables that still work like new. My Grandma has gone through another Apple branded lightning cable every other month since getting her polished turd of a phone.
@fiirasmusic5366
@fiirasmusic5366 Жыл бұрын
@@griffin8062 not the cable, it's the port
@duncanw9901
@duncanw9901 Жыл бұрын
Having worked on embedded projects that communicate with iOS devices before, I'm very interested to see where this goes. Some of this I recall from the spec; other parts it seems they don't even share with their MFi partners. I will not be sharing more information, as I don't even remember what I can and can't legally say.
@kwamenaplays5899
@kwamenaplays5899 Жыл бұрын
MFi NDA
@Niosus
@Niosus Жыл бұрын
They were doing funky stuff with the 30 pin cable back in the day as well. A mix between analog and digital. I may be recalling this incorrectly, but I believe you had to do some dance applying different resistances to different pins in a specific order as part of the handshake. Really finicky stuff to get right. Different devices would react slightly differently to that handshake, to the point where even the different storage options of the same model of iPhone/iPod had an effect. You really had to test every permutation many times (50+) to be sure it worked. But take the details with a large grain of salt, I just did the testing. I remember this from hearing the engineers complain about it back then. I could be wildly wrong on the handshake part. I'm not worried about an NDA because I never signed anything like that with Apple. And the company where I got experience with this went bust a long time ago. Plus I don't think they really care about the 30 pin connector anymore, as long as you're not going around putting it on commercial products...
@rahuls4863
@rahuls4863 Жыл бұрын
True. Like your exp, even in future, even for USB they are circumventing the standard protocol. USB already has data, power, fast charge etc. as standard - Apple is using only basic power from standard set, and they are using proprietary specs for other things (usb 3.1+ data speed, fast charge etc). All in the pretence of customer safety :)
@KiwisCassie
@KiwisCassie Жыл бұрын
@@rahuls4863 as louis rossman quotes, "safety and security!"
@teknikal_domain
@teknikal_domain Жыл бұрын
@@rahuls4863 I have a feeling the EU will strike them down for that.. or at least try and say "you know what we meant, we're not tolerating *malicious* compliance, do it like everyone else does"
@johnadams6249
@johnadams6249 Жыл бұрын
fun fact, iPad Pro gen 1 and 2 use all 16 pins on lightning for usb 3.0 speeds (in conjunction with a usb-c to lightning cable)
@stacksmashing
@stacksmashing Жыл бұрын
Interesting, I didn’t know! Thanks :)
@GadgetUK164
@GadgetUK164 Жыл бұрын
Cool =D You've made excellent progress there! Looking forward to part 2 =D
@matusholek1364
@matusholek1364 Жыл бұрын
The algorithm just gave me this gem that I didn't know I needed to see. What a great video.
@Bromon655
@Bromon655 10 ай бұрын
“Part 1” *_dips for 7 months_*
@TheXnyu
@TheXnyu Жыл бұрын
Great video! It's really interesting to learn about the technical details of Apple's Lightning connector and how it works. I appreciate the clear explanations and diagrams, and the various links provided for further exploration. Looking forward to Part 2!
@stacksmashing
@stacksmashing Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@mika-racing
@mika-racing Жыл бұрын
Being a software developer in the automation industry, i love this kind of reverse engineering videos. Looking forward to the next parts ;)
@Termynat0r
@Termynat0r Жыл бұрын
I love your approach to reverse engineer the protocol. Waiting for part 2 :D
@seanho123
@seanho123 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for pt.2 for 6 months now
@Moker49
@Moker49 Жыл бұрын
"in the next video?" what!? fastest 9 mins ever. what an awesome video.
@stacksmashing
@stacksmashing Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@seanperez1210
@seanperez1210 8 ай бұрын
This is great part 2 can’t wait … there are some interesting other projects that might be able to be integrated with that tamarin cable, not very sure what “level” of signal processor / logic analyzer is required. But I have seen some open source logic analyzer on hackaday that use the PIO cores to get up to 24 channels , 16, 8… pretty sure you could pipe the GPIO that’s handling that communication into the other cores and have the ARM cores act like a TCP server to send the data through the USB connected to the PC to double as tamarin / logic analyzer . Very cool project hope there is part 2 , and maybe some Lightning peripherals? Like lightning to usb hdmi hubs ? Get the readings from those ?
@nicknorthcutt7680
@nicknorthcutt7680 6 ай бұрын
You are super good at reverse engineering. Extremely straight forward and informative.
@TheTotallyRandomGuy
@TheTotallyRandomGuy Жыл бұрын
This is really cool! Also, side note, would you do this same analysis on one the old 30 pin cables? It would be really cool to see the differences between the older technology and the newer!
@altayakkus4611
@altayakkus4611 Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing, just before they are forced to use USB-C :D
@-aexc-
@-aexc- Жыл бұрын
let's hope they dont manage to get around it
@altayakkus4611
@altayakkus4611 Жыл бұрын
@@-aexc- I think that they announced that they are going to follow it.
@klafbang
@klafbang Жыл бұрын
@@altayakkus4611 They have confirmed they will follow the law. The law mandates USB-C for charging. USB-C connectors are already a clusterfuck used for many different standards, and rumors are already that the USB-C cables Apple plan on the next iPhone will need Apple certification for full functionality.
@jonasthemovie
@jonasthemovie Жыл бұрын
@@-aexc-Everyone should have been forced to use USB Micro.
@DamienBOURSAUX
@DamienBOURSAUX 5 ай бұрын
Wow. As an Apple employee at a Genius Bar, this video brought me a lot. As I love giving my customers some details about their products, this is a lot! Until now, just said that their cable is not only a cable. Now I can explain that there’s a real chip with which the iPhone is talking to. In an other way, can’t understand why we have not tools to determine if a cable is genuine or not.
@schmidvid
@schmidvid Жыл бұрын
Didn’t understand a single word, but hey man, nice video, enjoyed it 😄
@ranjanadissanayaka5390
@ranjanadissanayaka5390 Жыл бұрын
Having a knowledge like yours just seems like rocket science. Just awesome
@nooranshdhaka
@nooranshdhaka Жыл бұрын
This was such a dope video when part 2 gonna drop it’s been 4 months
@seanho123
@seanho123 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for pt.2 for two months now
@shubhambora6758
@shubhambora6758 Жыл бұрын
awesome man!! eagerly waiting for part 2
@noone31337
@noone31337 Жыл бұрын
Great Video. Already waiting for Part 2 :)
@aathish04
@aathish04 Жыл бұрын
Hey, awesome video, loved all the technical details! On a side note, what kind of logic analyser would you recommend for someone just getting into hardware security? The Salae ones you showed are a little outside my undergrad budget ;) Will an ESP32/Raspberry Pi Pico suffice for most beginner usecases? What if I'm dealing with negative voltage signals? Many thanks for your videos! Got here after LiveOverflow recommended them :)
@stacksmashing
@stacksmashing Жыл бұрын
You can get some very cheap ones on Amazon (like $10) - I think those are great in the beginning (and I still often use them)
@aathish04
@aathish04 Жыл бұрын
@@stacksmashing alright, I'll have a look at those. Thank you so much!
@Neywiny
@Neywiny Жыл бұрын
@@aathish04 I've used micros in the past, they're nice but one bit me when it pulled my i2c lines low when it wasn't powered. I use a digital discovery at work and it's amazing, especially with its high speed adapter kit. Very clean signals.
@newmonengineering
@newmonengineering Жыл бұрын
Personally I bought a 70$ one on Amazon and it does more than enough for me. Have used it a good bit. Probably the 10$ one would be enough for most to be honest
@JLenival
@JLenival Жыл бұрын
I need the next video! This seems like a series episode and I want to watch all the episodes. 😂 Nice video, bro. I like to brush up some bits, and this type of video is very pleasant to me.
@Nathan123Bhi8
@Nathan123Bhi8 Жыл бұрын
Algorithm sent me here, and I’m glad! Can’t wait for the rest!
@alexnoha
@alexnoha Жыл бұрын
Before watching the video, I thought that embedding the chip in the USB cable was stupid, because it costs more and creates more waste. Now, I'm waiting for the next part.
@l0udPL
@l0udPL Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see message exchange with some cheap, knockoff cable and see if there is any difference in responses.
@stacksmashing
@stacksmashing Жыл бұрын
Great idea! Will see if I can get some
@venoradev
@venoradev Жыл бұрын
Tell me you're german without telling me you're german: Him: "Just talking"
@yaghiyahbrenner8902
@yaghiyahbrenner8902 Жыл бұрын
very nice I love the breakout header you made.
@andrewdubose9968
@andrewdubose9968 6 ай бұрын
I like the USB-C connector, but the fact that there are so many different types of cables that use the USB-C connector creates a confusion that didn’t exist before. Still, it is the most meaningful progress we’ve made towards a uniform standard in a long time.
@sudomc
@sudomc Жыл бұрын
I understood absolutely none of this but i watched the whole thing
@dogedog2447
@dogedog2447 6 ай бұрын
This dude is pretty cool 👌 you have earned a well deserved sub 😁
@shp4rk
@shp4rk Жыл бұрын
Omg the part you ask to ChatGPT is just mind blowing
@hoangnguyen6162
@hoangnguyen6162 6 ай бұрын
Love the way this guy uses Logic Pro to analyse analogue signal
@Marvinzock34
@Marvinzock34 Жыл бұрын
Congrats to the 150k subcribers! and realy nice video !
@gomalsiahaan4125
@gomalsiahaan4125 Жыл бұрын
I dont understand a single thing. But i look cool in a coffeeshop watching your video 😂.
@nullptr.
@nullptr. Жыл бұрын
I wish you would do longer videos instead of these 10-minute parts, thanks for the content though, keep it up. Looking forward to making my own cable.
@stacksmashing
@stacksmashing Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean - it’s pretty intense to produce though :) I might try some longer content Thanks for the feedback!
@Scyth3934
@Scyth3934 Жыл бұрын
10 minutes is ok in my opinion
@miwer2010
@miwer2010 11 ай бұрын
Please continue! Your work is great!!! When is the second part coming?
@ty2k
@ty2k Жыл бұрын
Great explanation, thanks so much for all your hard work.
@matrixmodexp
@matrixmodexp Жыл бұрын
Woah this is amazing. I just came from watching Exploring The simulations video on adding USBC to airpods. This is amazing to see
@jaishankarm5920
@jaishankarm5920 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for the next part of video
@parimalarenga92
@parimalarenga92 Жыл бұрын
you remind me of Ben Eater, not comparing efforts here, great video. subbed.
@Ganesh_Sh
@Ganesh_Sh Жыл бұрын
You should try teaching profession! Your simplicity in presentation and effective communication makes it easy to understand and learn.
@1fattyfatman
@1fattyfatman 6 ай бұрын
I have no interest in this space but LOVED this vid because it as so clear and well produced.
@mobile22222
@mobile22222 Жыл бұрын
When is part 2?
@suncrafterspielt9479
@suncrafterspielt9479 Жыл бұрын
would love a second part if you have time :D
@tosch9057
@tosch9057 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to part two!
@Muhammed.Yaseen
@Muhammed.Yaseen Жыл бұрын
WOW!!!! This is such a unique video! Never seen something like this before in my feed.
@Suidloc
@Suidloc Жыл бұрын
I like the 1:03 version of the lightning cable.
@RafaelScarpa
@RafaelScarpa Жыл бұрын
I heard Apple recently updated the firmware on their cables somehow. I hope this series helps me understand that.
@xluumu
@xluumu Жыл бұрын
It wasn’t for Lightning cables, the update was for a MacBook MagSafe charging cable.
@jeroentjemulders
@jeroentjemulders 7 ай бұрын
Part 2???
@benservey9295
@benservey9295 Жыл бұрын
fascinating. Neat how you can figure out so much from so little
@Hot.sausee
@Hot.sausee Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! When where is part 2?!!?
@AKG58Z
@AKG58Z Жыл бұрын
Awesome detailed video now I want to see Type c power delivery and other protocols as well from you.
@elkanasback8743
@elkanasback8743 28 күн бұрын
Can you please talk about the lighning earphones in the process ? great video by the way
@isaacewing
@isaacewing Жыл бұрын
i want the next video NOWWWW
@compu85
@compu85 Жыл бұрын
Great video - lots of information and well paced. I'm looking forward to part 2!
@stacksmashing
@stacksmashing Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@garydunken7934
@garydunken7934 Жыл бұрын
Wow, nice one. For how long did this channel exist? Subscribed.
@frequencymanipulator
@frequencymanipulator Жыл бұрын
This video got me all charged up. Positively electrifying.
@1blendercraft1
@1blendercraft1 Жыл бұрын
Wow thats amazing! Looking very forward to the next part
@BD7PA
@BD7PA Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your very detailed technical sharing, why can't I find the second part, thank you.
@matoatlantis
@matoatlantis Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Loved every bit of it (pun intended).
@TimMug
@TimMug Жыл бұрын
That was the first time I've actually seen chatgpt being used, and it wasn't for a joke it was for actual information??? That just blew my mind
@JRis44
@JRis44 Жыл бұрын
Guess I have to subscribe to stay tuned!! Also what analyzer do you use?!?!
@InfinityFnatic
@InfinityFnatic Жыл бұрын
I am firmly convinced that the German people are some of the smartest people in the world. The video was amazing! Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@shaclo1512
@shaclo1512 Жыл бұрын
I‘m german and I have no idea what this gentleman is telling us.
@jacobblomquist5288
@jacobblomquist5288 Жыл бұрын
Great work! Can't wait for part 2!
@miweneia
@miweneia Жыл бұрын
I cannot believe you asked chat gpt and it found an answer within seconds… it’s truly revolutionary
@anthonya824
@anthonya824 Жыл бұрын
My mind is blown. This video (these videos) are awesome. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.
@victornpb
@victornpb Жыл бұрын
I'm curious to see why apple never upgraded lightning to support USB3.0. From what I can see Lightning has 2 differential lanes and Power and that could carry a USB3 signal. I wonder if theres any other limitation.
@CoteaGeorgeC
@CoteaGeorgeC Жыл бұрын
Lightning could do USB 3 at one point. Pre 2nd and 3rd gen iPad Pros could do it.
@meco
@meco Жыл бұрын
They did, there’s an official lightning to usb 3 adapter but it doesn’t do that speed with current gen devices anymore
@michealfunickrr3717
@michealfunickrr3717 Жыл бұрын
I want my iPad Pro 3rd gen to have a 3.0 lightning connection. It's got Hexxa plus.
@seanperez1210
@seanperez1210 8 ай бұрын
Has anyone analyzed / tear down one of the lightning to usb camera adapters ? Haven’t found one anywhere, it would be interesting to see the difference between the normal cable and the “otg” cable? Or does it work the same as if you get a usb-c to usb-a female adapter ? Would that work
@DEMENTO01
@DEMENTO01 Жыл бұрын
this is so interesting wow! im now very curious about a few things tho. 1- How do splitters work? for example i have a very cheap aliexpress splitter that basically lets me plug in both charging cable and lightning earpods on my iphone at once, im guessing this thing is 100% passive but i have no ide and im not about to destroy it rn tbh. but if its passibe how can it communicate with both things at once? and if active, how does it get to split these two things? 2- does the cable reply to the device which charging capabilities it has? like if it can do fast charging or not, or is that linked to the modle number or name itself? 3- does the cable also talk to the charger it connects to? like does the apple PSU get any information about the lightning cable or device? apart from power delivery on fast chargers that is, especially curious on the old usb-a 5w and 10w ones and 4- how do fake cables work then? ive had bad luck getting some knockoff ones bc they would charge very very slowly and im thinking if it might be bc the controller was answering stuff wrong and the iphone has some sort of anti-illegitimate mehcanism or something or if it just replied as if it was the slowest charging cable that exists, i really hope youll check this stuff at some point plz! btw for reference this is the splitter i have (different store same thing tbh, not great bc it requires regular cleaning for it to work, also if u dont have experienc with aliexpress choose the aliexpress saver shipping unless its wayy too expensive for u bc at least in spain that option takes 2 weeks but the caniao expedited economy aka tghe default one for this takes months) www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004576959652.html
@venjsystems
@venjsystems Жыл бұрын
absolutely fascinating, can't wait for more videos!
@phire0
@phire0 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for yet another fantastic video!
@desidark1243
@desidark1243 Жыл бұрын
Take this subscription, you deserve it. Quality content.
@ra1nmaker001
@ra1nmaker001 Жыл бұрын
Eagerly waiting for part 2!
@kagandemirarslan872
@kagandemirarslan872 Жыл бұрын
amazing video, cant wait part for other parts
@ShiroKlein
@ShiroKlein Жыл бұрын
Hey, I love this video, cant wait till part 2
@zUltra3D
@zUltra3D Жыл бұрын
This was honestly really interesting to watch
@stacksmashing
@stacksmashing Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@zoltanujszaszi
@zoltanujszaszi Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, waiting for part 2!
@xntumrfo9ivrnwf
@xntumrfo9ivrnwf Жыл бұрын
Super interesting! looking forward to the rest of the series. Also, I didn't know you were German :)
@TIMHOK_
@TIMHOK_ Жыл бұрын
So the serial number for each cable is unique? I can basically smell information gathering from this. Got a new cable from apple store nearby - they know where you have been, even if you left your phone home and paid with cash. Forgot your cable home, battery got low, friend passed you his cable - now apple knows that you connected with this person and contacted physically, even if you was on airplane mode. There is so many scenarios!
@kingoflossantos959
@kingoflossantos959 Жыл бұрын
even lightning earpods have their unique serial numbers. thats how you can check wheather your cable is legit or fake......when you take a closer look to your iOS device console
@dabdoube92
@dabdoube92 Жыл бұрын
gib part2 today pls. thks
@rouuuk
@rouuuk Жыл бұрын
im sold, new sub over here, im waiting for part 2
@Scyth3934
@Scyth3934 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the next video!!!
@kritikusi-666
@kritikusi-666 Жыл бұрын
Great to see you back on the scene. Superb content delivery. Are you planning on working on a possible jailbreak?
@beingatliberty
@beingatliberty Жыл бұрын
How much variance is there from USB just enough to be proprietary?
@stacksmashing
@stacksmashing Жыл бұрын
There is no USB until it’s enabled via SDQ :)
@saschakaupp
@saschakaupp Жыл бұрын
Great explanation and neat graphics!
@N-hunter
@N-hunter Жыл бұрын
Will you be exploring how the lightning dongles such as 3.5mm audio and HDMI adapters function? Interested if they communicate over the USB bus or one of the other channels
@stacksmashing
@stacksmashing Жыл бұрын
Mayyybe… I don’t have any yet :) Maybe I’ll buy some
@seanperez1210
@seanperez1210 7 ай бұрын
If you got the usb camera adapter and or Ethernet , would be nice to know how they work. How they communicate with the tristar to use HID devices or Ethernet. There is no documentation on anything except for a handful of lightning charging cables ( like this video ) and some on the Haywire HDMI. But I have not been able to find any docs on usb camera adapter or the Ethernet. In your tamarind cable I notice you break out all the lightning pins. Without JB phone or any demoting ( for non debug use ). Can you just plug in a usb-HID device into the usb port, without sending / spoofing the lightning cables ID to tristar? And the HID device be recognized by the iOS device ? If not I would assume the tamarin cable firmware would need to be modified to send the ID for triggering the proper data lanes and/or the service in lockdownd ? Or iAP?
@Schimnesthai
@Schimnesthai Жыл бұрын
This is excellent!
@mytubbie67
@mytubbie67 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I purchased a dongle DAC to play Apple Music on my stereo from my iphone but discovered that only 4 lightning to usb-c cables in the world can pass digital music stream. Most such cables pass power and some pass digital files but very very few pass digital audio stream. To be clear the cable is lightning male on the iphone end and usb-c male to the input of the DAC. Otherwise you need the apple camera adapter and use a usb A to usb-c cable between the iphone -> camera adapter -> the dac. So lightning cables have lots of hidden protocol checks. I’ve also uncovered that my car’s stereo unit usb input isn’t apple friendly. When i plug my iphone to it, iphone says it doesn’t recognize the accessory. Again passing digital audio stream seems something apple is not making easy.
@mataznuiz
@mataznuiz Жыл бұрын
id appreciate lightning more if the port was more durable. pins should be on the cable imo, hence i prefer usb c. regardless, really informative video
@zachb1706
@zachb1706 Жыл бұрын
I've never had a problem with the port breaking. I have had many cables break.
@xluumu
@xluumu Жыл бұрын
I’ve never had problems with Lightning. However, I have a phone with a USB C connector which broke within a month. I have a laptop where the connectors are loose. Mechanically USB C is terrible.
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 Жыл бұрын
Lightning ports are FAR more reliable and durable than USB-C. The plugs are not so good, as they tend to snap the PCB if over-stressed. EDIT: I mean that the Lightning plugs are not as durable as the Lightning PORTS. However that is by design, since any impact will only affect a $20 cable rather than a $1000 device.
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 Жыл бұрын
@Phillip Banes - so you agree with me. Therefore, the first word in your comment needs to be "Yes". I have added an edit to my previous comment to clarify what I meant.
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 Жыл бұрын
@Phillip Banes - I haven't got time to dumb it down and write an essay to cater for the lowest intelligence levels.
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