The Self: a Reality or a Concept? Dr. Tony Nader with Dr. Evan Thompson

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The Self: a Reality or a Concept? Dr. Tony Nader with Dr. Evan Thompson

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In this episode Dr. Nader and Dr. Evan Thompson discuss consciousness and the Self from different spiritual and scientific perspectives. How the sense of self is constructed and changes in different states of consciousness. What is the self in relation to consciousness and the nature of ultimate reality?
Dr. Evan Thompson is Professor of Philosophy at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver and an Associate Member of both the Department of Asian Studies and the Department of Psychology. He is a Fellow of the Royal Society of Canada, and his work combines cognitive science, philosophy of mind, phenomenology, and cross-cultural philosophy, especially Asian philosophical traditions. His most recent books include “Why I Am Not A Buddhist” and “Waking, Dreaming, Being”.
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@umami22 Жыл бұрын

The most efficient thing we can do is experience and enjoy what resonates best with us, and at least try to understand + educate ourselves on other perspectives! Even “opposing” ideas or beliefs. In the grand scheme of things, everything is connected and truly working together 😉 This is a very refreshing and wonderful conversation 😊

@markjohnson543 7 ай бұрын

Dr. Nader and Dr. Thompson illuminate these asic issues in a brilliant way. Thank you for sharing this talk.

@aartigandhi962 7 ай бұрын

excellent interview. thank you both.

@ashia_in_bloom Жыл бұрын

What an amazing talk! I loved hearing them talk about the Self, so interesting!

@leilagargouri591 Жыл бұрын

The Self. The Reality. An exciting and intelligent discussion, philosophical at times. A subject that can be discussed endlessly though the ages to inspire us with new questions that are just as profound and extensive, and we still see the dominant Self reigning like a Monarch . Wonderful session , thank you.

@Ewatson79 Жыл бұрын

What a great conversation. I ❤️ Dr. Nader.

@bavingeter423 7 ай бұрын

I feel like selfhood is pretty self-evident and obvious. It is a process. Think of it as a solar system, you have all these aggregates that are contained within a boundary that is You. These aggregates will find certain patterns of configuration that allow you to perceive the world a certain way, and you can reconfigure them in other ways as well. The changing aspect of the self doesn’t mean that there is no continuity of self, it’s quite the opposite. The continuity is IN the constant flux. When people say they “change” it moreso just means that you realized a different configuration, but you are still you. By growing, and changing, we fulfill selfhood, in the same way that when the flower blooms the “bud” doesn’t dissolve, it is fulfilled.

@konstantinosipov1037 Жыл бұрын

so wonderful

@tapashchatterjee4724 Жыл бұрын

Enriching /Enlightening / Empowering.......

@Lala-ww8cb Жыл бұрын

A great conversation Jay gurudev

@danistall-a8965 Жыл бұрын

So, if there is no underlying unified self, at a spiritual level, how does one explain the NDE's described in Moody, and Burke's books, which seem supported by extensive data?

@user-se8ze7tq1h Жыл бұрын

Dr. Ralph Nader, are you of Helen Keller abilities? As my colleague Rachel would suggest? Helen Keller being mute, blind, and deaf? Are you above these abilities? Like God? ❤

@towardstruth2125 Жыл бұрын

Kindly clarify that the self changes at every level as we go ahead? How can it change??

@metta1773 Жыл бұрын

Evan is simply doing intellectual analysis here. To understand these types of things, one needs to develop meditation, and cultivate sharp mindfulness - this enables one to see and understand the arising/ceasing (impermanent) nature of each experienced moment, etc. So, he hasn’t understood concepts like how even the perception of a 'changing self' is also an arising and ceasing perception. These are profound understandings that are beautifully presented in Buddhist teachings.

@towardstruth2125 Жыл бұрын

@@metta1773 I understand the self as a observer & the observer do not change. That which changes is not the self. Thank you for your explanation but if you explain more i will be even more thankful.

@metta1773 Жыл бұрын

@@towardstruth2125 I follow the spiritual path of Buddhism. It explains how each experienced moment (the five aggregates) happen due to causes. Even us observing mind-states happen due to causes (such as hearing that we need to do this) - it is not a ‘person.’ In the conventional world, it is a person, but when it comes to ultimate reality it is just a mind-state: volition, arising due to causes. We suffer due to clinging to the five aggregates by considering them to be ‘a me/mine.’ I suggest reading the work of Venerable Kaṭukurunde Ñāṇananda (such as his book Nibbāna - The Mind Stilled, freely available on the internet).

@towardstruth2125 Жыл бұрын

@@metta1773 Thank you! ❤️🙏🙏❤️

@leilagargouri591 Жыл бұрын

Knowledge is the coming together of the three values -Observer - Process of observation - Observed We call that a bit of consciousness Each bit of consciousness modifies the Observer who becomes a new Observer

@michalarad1751 11 ай бұрын

If we didnt have memorry we wouldnt be consciousn. It all begins with memmory. More like.copy paste

@robinaguenkel7534 Жыл бұрын

👍🇩🇪

@metta1773 Жыл бұрын

Evan has not grasped the deeper essence of Buddhism. He does a lot of intellectual analyses as well as information and knowledge-based study, but he hasn’t developed sufficiently sharp mindful awareness, etc., to understand things like the impermanence of each experienced moment, and also to understand things like what the present moment is, etc. - these are all very nicely presented in Buddhist teachings.

@curtisnowitzky3344 Жыл бұрын

Have you grasped the deeper essence of Buddhism?

@tanausu7 Жыл бұрын

Buddhism doesn’t produce enlightened beings, it produces buddhists, like any other organising principle.

@metta1773 Жыл бұрын

@@curtisnowitzky3344 I would say that by learning Buddhism carefully, I have come to realize that it is actually a 'science' - not a material science but a science that carefully and methodically explores the human condition.

@metta1773 Жыл бұрын

@@tanausu7 This is because you think of enlightenment as a ‘thing to be achieved’ rather than our human condition that has to be gradually understood through mindfulness and careful contemplation.

@samwebb3674 Жыл бұрын

So basically your criticism is he hasn't grasped the deeper essence of Buddhism, but that's not really an argument is it? We could say that about anything, but if we aren't clarifying specifically what someone hasn't "grasped" then these kinds of vague criticisms seem rather uncharitable.

@brianmason2368 11 ай бұрын

There is a difference between a self and an identity. It might be more accurate to say the psyche, spirit, non-physical entity is the self. 😂The self can create and display an identity. We know this when we look at individuals who through trauma or mental illness, lose their self, if they emerge with a different self, and or original self submerged. The being creates and experiences self and identifies. The belief or idea that the brain creates self, or even a consciouness is ridiculous.

@Chris-Ian 7 ай бұрын

What's more ridiculous is using laughing emojis in a desperate attempt to invalide the opinion of a professor just because you don't like it.