I understand an album they were working on before they died but then releasing unreleased material in album form years after the fact? Defo a cash grab

because that’s exactly what they are most of the time

Not circles tho.. that shits beautiful

@@ytho8245 circles definitely gets a pass

Pretty much how it be especially in X's camp

That’s actually false, only a small percentage of dead rappers get the exposure juice, pop, X, Mac did.

@@thefinalflex0_o877 that doesn't mean you have to be getting millions of streams etc. If some rappers had 10k listeners before, the moment they die, plus the news and everybody tuning in, they would even rise up to 30k listeners. Not everyone had the buzz as juice wrld did alive, much less dead. But that's beside the point. When rappers die and news circulates, their fanbase increases because these people are curious of what this dude was like when he was alive. When, for example x was alive, I saw thumbnails with his eyebrow shaved etc so I thought he would be some dark punk style rapper but after he died I found out how awesome his music was.

@@thefinalflex0_o877 You're lying to yourself.

@@thefinalflex0_o877 no all rappers get lots of exposure after they died what are you talking about, if they were a local act everyone in the city I’ll be talking about it, if they were regional artist or semi hot they get a good amount of coverage, if they are big or were getting big they get massive coverage. I don’t know what the fuck your talking about their exposure like goes up 100 fold I may be gassing it a bit but it’s a lot more than what they were normally getting just because ur not into the music scene don’t think people aren’t getting more exposure. Just say you didn’t hear about them cause they weren’t mainstream

“Prolly find ya man dead in the ocean (he’ll be aight tho) you know dead rappers get better promotion” 😭

So I just tripped on 🍄 and listened to the album start to finish. I still stand by what I said, what an incredible body of work fr 💯

@@itscoachmorphius123 Now I'mma have to listen to Circles.

@@gezeo750 listen to all of his art man you shouldn’t be disappointed

@@itscoachmorphius123 hhhgg gtg

That album is meh

facts

No even then that album is not something to replay daily, too rushed n doesn’t seem finished for obvious reasons. Post humous shouldn’t exist at all unless the album was close to being done. 95% of the time it just sounds like shit or isn’t even remotely good

@@JCSproductions123 I could’ve swore I read that Jon Brion said Circles was 90-95% close to being finished before Mac passed away.

@@JCSproductions123 From a music perspective you definitely don't know what you're talking about, production on Circles is insanely good and it's one of Mac best albums, and no, it doesn't feel rushed, the album was basically finished, so much that some of the songs were filtrated before the album even came out, those versions of the songs are the actual unfinished ones, the lyrics are exactly the same and so is the rhythm of the song, they were basically already finished. Even this video said it, Mac started development in Circles alongside Swimming, and not only that, but the albums are connected to each other, Swimming was the first of three albums that were gonna be connected, It was gonna be Swimming, Circles and Infinity...Swimming in Circles till Infinity. So not only had Mac basically already finished Circles, but he already had another album planned

on god

Fr

Fr

They are milking his music so much that in 5 years they are gonna release a single with him talking smh

🍼 🥛

I like Pop’s album too. But now it’s getting out of hand.

agreed RIP mac.

Agreeeeed, juice and pop smoke were also done well

@@cassiusclay6202 tiktok ruined it lol

And Juice

Same. After the awful Bad Vibes Forever I stayed away from posthumous releases.

Facts shit pissed me off

Very true blame it on his mom

@@Dblup I stayed away after that Members only project. His posthumous stuff traumatized me so much that I can’t even go back to listening his old songs

Same shit they did with 2pac, remixing all his unreleased, unfinished music and making half assed beats that pac wouldn't want smh. I stay away from posthumous albums too

they signed those deals before they blew up so their gonna keep getting milked 🤑

@@stokmarket743 yeah I understand that but you could be an independent artist as well

@@devante_topdawg491 independent artist still have stuff drop after they die. And I would agree with this sentiment but stuff like Pop Smoke's Album. Most of it was the Huncho Woo project with Shoot For The Stars being a song with him and Quavo and he said he wanted to release a Huncho Woo project literally one day before he died. Offset and Cardi B promoted him, and be has unreleased stuff with Quavo, Takeoff & Offset. So with that also Enjoy Yourself and Diana was snippets that he wanted to release soon. So that's like half of Pop Smoke's Album already, Lil Tjay was close with him so Mood Swings was probably going to release as both artist said they were going to try R&B in the future. So I feel like his album wasn't extortion. But XXXTENTACION's posthumous albums were extortion

@@stokmarket743 unless they found their way out but maybe that’s why only dead rappers in deals have late release

But what about situations like Juice

Facts, at least said people had sense on how to handle the artist's work finished or unfinished most important when it comes to the features chose who can deliver a cohesive verse or someone the artist was friends/knew of them

Yes and ppl like juice wlrd’s were wasted🤧

@@amareb7701 one of the biggest albums

@@amareb7701 legends never die was still very good

@@amareb7701 Huh? LND sounded like something juice would’ve released

Pop Album was 80% done they just needed to add features, which they were gonna do for the album anyway. So it couldn’t have been too bad.

He did a great job. I was relieved, too.

I’m unsure whether it was actually done right. The drill sound from meet the woo 1 and 2 was barely there on the album. A lot of the original versions of the songs came out and they were 808 melo (uk drill) beats but they got switched.

Duh, that's his son.

@@ssc1232009 it was done right this was the kind of music pop wanted to switch to because it’s what he grew up on with his family

Shame for the ones who didn't have a lot of material like Big, Pun, L. Watching that Biggie doc on Netflix, man he made this shit look easy...just wish we had more material, and not just claims from various people.

Yeah juice wrld’s unreleased catalog is just massive

dawg there's so many artists that a small whose families decided to release the music the artist had finished ,it doesn't just happen to big artists

Right, both juice and mac have hundreds of unreleased song

@@ytho8245 juice has thousands

I feel like Cleo's role in X's music was intensified by the fact that she was kind of absent in Jah's life as a kid. That's why she's overdoing it now, which is sad because she's ruining his legacy and it's not like what she's doing is filling the void inside her. That's probably why Members Only aren't saying anything especially Craig and Ski.

she is trying her best to please the fans, she was not abusive towards him, she was just not able 2 take care of him because she was young and didn't have money, so she had to work. jah said he didn't fault her for that. she misses her son and is trying to please the fans

So u think xxxtentacion wouldn’t be happy that his music is making money for his family??

She’s horrible that’s why x death hit the hardest

@@jpminerali7600 facts, sad that people don’t actually know what the truth is

Except for 2pac because he still alive

@@trashboat6822 wow

@@trashboat6822 tupac in serbia... tupac maek fast ra in serbia... he giv serb gold and rich...

😭😭😭😭😭

You win😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🔥🔥

🤣🤣🤣

Stole the "that's an awfully hot coffee pot" from lil windex. You're not creative.

His posthumous albums might be his highlights as he's been shit his whole career

Honestly if they did the hologram thing it should of been at a place where they solely celebrated hip hop as a whole and have Pac come out at the end

2pac is alive!!

Those songs should’ve stayed in the vault too. Hendrix was by far the worst example I ever saw.

You do know after the first 2 albums his mom fought death row for the rights to his music and won, and that she used the money from the albums for the tupac foundation which does great work helping inner city youth turn from gang life and violence and giving them a chance at life right? I feel tupac would've been okay with that but that's just me I guess

Yea and none of the albums were to Tupac’s standards either. They also released a bunch of films. The Eminem album had him shouting out Obie Trice etc which I always thought was lame for them to do

Should’ve just moved his SoundCloud stuff to bigger streaming services

Yeah that shit was bad. I miss x man

@@a3pilot880 thats a great idea and they shouldve just ended it there

x is better than juice bc he has a quality over quantity discography

@@xxxod imo I never liked X but I'll respect that

Galaxi hell no that last album bad vibes forever had some of the worst x songs by far. Damn near all trash. Every juice wrld album to come out will be golden

​@@ericshepherd7786 cause he wasn't even near finished with bad vibes forever. Notice how we don't have any X songs left. He didn't make 10,000 throwaways, he made 220 with purpose. Plus Juice is carried by the beat.

@@xxxod juice has so many songs better than any x songs

They got some right lol. I personally prefer better dayz's my block than the og

He’s not dead and if he did die he wasn’t even buried. But he’s still alive.

@@trashboat6822 you people who believe so and so musician is still alive even though they are clearly dead need a spoonful of reality.

@@christianjohnson7228 The only musician that I believe is alive is 2pac. I have proof. Search up 2pac and look for his neck tattoo, and then look at his autopsy and look for his neck tattoo. And find footage from the night he was “shot” and listen to when the lady said”who I learned was 2pac who was taken away in a helicopter”. And search up Akil the Mc. Tell me if you still think he’s dead after you search that stuff up. You’re the one who needs to take a spoon of reality, sheep.

@@trashboat6822 I don’t see it, true. But how do you know that it isn’t on the other side of his neck? How do you know it wasn’t removed? I’m not a 2pac fan, but he doesn’t sound much like Akil the MC. I need more proof. I’m sure you read this online somewhere and was like “woah this is so true!” I get it man, it hurts that we don’t have 2pac! I miss Kurt Cobain and Dimebag Darrell, but we gotta let go sometimes.

That's exactly what I've been saying for awhile, but from what I hear I think it's a matter of how many samples that would have to be cleared. Underground X sampled a lot, so I could imagine how many artists they would have to reach out to before any of his mixtapes see commercial level platforms.

@@kingroka5870 yeah that’s the only problem I see as to why it hasn’t been done already, sample clearances. But truly if the people in charge of his estate wanted to they could achieve it I believe. Wouldn’t it just make them all more money? Seems that what BVF was all about anyways.......

@@myra-yves That would definitely give them the money they're looking for rather than the subpar material that's out right now. I don't think X would approve of any of what they have released because he was very precise about his craft. Unfortunately they wanted to fulfill his contract and didn't care to keep the integrity of his vision in mind while doing so.

Kinda agreeable

Fr, I think about that too. It's so sad.

Mac is one of the greatest artist of all time... He was a comet of an artist... Rip legend

Depends where u live. Personally everybody was talking about Pop smoke and Von before they death where I live

@@jsmoov3._ everyone knew von where I’m at

i knew about pop smoke the day before he died but his music was semi popular and well von was already getting popular before he died especially on tiktok because crazy story and some other songs were doing good.

Same! I’m not in school, but same

I had a couple of people talk about Pop Smoke before his death

Asf bruh

Fr, Circles is on another level

That's because Premo was his long term partner. It's actually Gang Starr, they brought in the Gang Starr family, had his son in multiple music videos. You can feel the love in the music. I've seen DJ Premier live , you can tell he's doing everything possible to keep his friends legacy alive. Moment of Truth !

@@keith819 Plus Preemo makes sure that Guru's family has everything they need. And it is beautiful because it shows that it isn't just business but also something more powerful. I also found it so inspiring that J. Cole said it would be his last feature on an album.

there was even a simpsons episode (hallween special) were homer had to kill celebs so companies could use them in adds without paying for it...

Macs was handled really well too and juices sounds really good but they could do way better. They literally can’t mess it up for juice💀

the deluxe was kinda meh but I de why they did it. deluxe trend lmao

Still better than Juice's catalog (that includes the trash Juice released when alive).

LL6D

Ye and the unreleased mixtapes on the show w E4 although I heard that they stopped it cuz doom didn’t enter

And it never will be

tbh id rather not i love DOOM but it feels grimy listening to unreleased music that may have never even meant to be released 🤷‍♀️

7DT is another great example of posthumous release 🔥

7DT was almost done and planned, the Eminem produced album was the worse putting his agenda (G-Unit) and joining him with Biggie when they (sadly) had bad blood before dying was disrespectful

@@rimaq_ that "running dying to live" is legendary imo it jus showed how amazing a Collab between them 3 would have been .. R U Still Down and Until the End of Time were unplanned by pac but it's still heat cause it was all finished songs by pac, everything after is mainly cash grabs

@@rimaq_ the Em produced album obviously had love and care put in, but Em twisting Pac's vocals to shout out G Unit was scummy. He should have just left the vocals the same and just mixed and made the beats, because the shit's good, but Em having Pac shout out G Unit when Pac died before that was even a thing was clearly pushing an agenda. Just let the man's vocals remain unchanged. Em's production was also obviously rushed, as he was on drugs and producing and recording his own album at the time. However, it wasn't bad. Just not as good as Em's other work in the production department, so to speak. I just wish Em didn't push an agenda as hard. I have Soldier Like Me on a playlist, though, so that's an indication as to the quality of production, but the agenda thing is shitty as fuck. Edit: not defending em for having good production on the album either. The way he handled the whole thing was shitty, with good production being really the only major benefit.

Ikr

Facts very disrespectful

Right smh now why would they do that?!😔💔

What do you mean?

@@daan1196 people glorified his death, especially the way he died

Same with X

And juice

LEGACY? DA FUX

Hey you're cute

@@mary468 tf

Well

lol

@@47dark i dont think my comment aged well

i found it ironic that that quote was on a lil peep song, when they didn’t mess with each other

@@ivyx7346 I think X was referring to Peep with that quote.

@@huracan360 Yeah i think so too. Its ironic he's saying that on a peep song when they weren't even cool.

@@huracan360 yea he was

There was a posthumous kurt cobain album. You know right came out after his death

a lot of dead artists have posthumous albums it’s not a hip hop thing.

Just because they died doesnt mean the labels shouldn’t release new music. It’s not fair to the fans

@@adamwilson2002 the fans deserved the albums they paid for. Nothing more. And they got every album they paid for because as far as I know none of these artists are funding their projects through gofund me. Fans deserve to honor and appreciate the art that the artist left behind that they fully crafted and approved for release. Not these albums made of of what people think the artist would have wanted.

@@Dkvizu but some artists like juice Wrld have hundreds of songs that are actually complete and are able to release

They frankenstiened lifes a mess by juice wrld, even though he has plenty of good unreleased music. I still enjoyed the remix but I don't like that they aren't releasing ones that haven't been released in any form officially yet. Not since LND at least FYI im a die hard juice wrld fan but I wanna see more finished unreleased songs and his freestyles from long studio sessions. I only have KZfaq premium for music cause unreleased juice wrld songs are on KZfaq. I became a fan only a month before he died so im no OG fan but I love him to death. Dude has hard, soft ,what ya want take your pick

I feel that. It just has me want to make sure I have a team of people who know and understand before I go however that may be. Good luck to you tho

Better dayz is fucking terrible, what are you talking about?

It’s been 11 months what’a your opinion on faces

@@samuraijedi7991 i had no problems at all, actually i had been on that train long before they announced it. Understand they had to take some of the sampling out but the original is still there for people to listen too, but faces deserved to be on all platforms and glad it is.

@@samuraijedi7991 But i also hear that theres an unreleased album thats been ready for a second so i dont even know where i stand with my original comment. and its not ballonerism or maclibs

No tracks were released after his death until the album