Hey man, great video. Regarding the previous one, did they agree to remove the weapon charm with your logo from the game, or is that still a point of contention?

Its such a shame, I hoped at least people who DIDN'T get banned in game for having "Wrong" IP address, could continue having a good time, and now find out its been turning worse and worse, all the way into CryptoSCAM

"Ill have a link down below, go check" And no link lol

Gamigo has done the same thing to half a dozen other MMO's. They buy it, offer a vast cash shop with everything players might want, then stop supporting the game until it's unplayable. The only way it stops is if people make it financially unviable to do this, by not buying anything in the cash shop. Unfortunately there is still a large number of gamers that will pay out the parasites, so this is built into the MMO lifecycle now.

Hey bigfry I know this is a random comment, I know you've been checking out "boomer" Shooters, you should REALLY check out Divine Frequency it's a fantastic GZDoom game/mod as a stand alone game. There's only a demo out right now but, wow was it a trip. Would love to see you cover it in a video at some point. Thanks man.

and the funny thing is, people like FIFA Ultimate team because they are pulling cards of their favorite players from an actual sport who are actually famous. No one is going to give a single shit when they pull a Gregory Smith Shatterline card from a pack. The devs are truly grasping at straws here.

"Im broke GIMME MONEY!"-Angry Joe

At the end of the day a lot of game developers have become more about profit and less about product. If it's profitable at the expense of reputation, it's a good move. That works fine in the short run, but there are developers that I will not buy games from b/c of their reputation (EA and Ubisoft come to mind). I spend probably $500 a year on gaming so not a terrible amount, but I at least know that isn't going to another "grindy on purpose to sell you an XP boost" garbage game.

I still found the game fun to randomly play every couple weeks but there’s no reason to go back now

the game was fun loved the PVE but this really just Killed it

Shatterline didn’t JUST die… … … IT WAS MURDERED…!!!

what game is this kid talking about?

@@ashsuri1289 Did you even read the title?

What NFT is not a scam? Like a genuine question. When were NFT's not at worst a way to steal money from FOMO idiots, and at best a way to waste money on funny monkey images because you were bored?

That's like saying "the known scam online shopping" or "the internet." The tech itself isn't the scam, it's just a method that's new and poorly understood by most people taken advantage of by certain assholes to scam people out of money.

Exactly. From a somewhat bright future to this BS... wtf..

Problem is they will just shut down the studio and open a new one with a new name. Or they sell to someone like Gamigo and then they aren't tainted by the inevitable pay-to-win cash shop and shut down of servers.

@@Tuffsmoygles 100%.

100% agree

The best country to do an investigation to this company for false advertising and more. Is uk. If enough player complain their a certain amount of signature their be an immediate investigation like no man sky as an example.

@@MysticalCabal Another good option could be Australia as their Consumer Rights Protection has dropped the hammer on many games that shipped unplayable or not as advertised whether from the get go or down the line

@Stormkrasher someone needs to start a petition or call representatives. Hopefully, everyone comes together and fight this.

I'd wager something something ToS saying basically "everything is subject to change" something something. If any of you care enough go on and try, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Why is this legal? Simple: Because you never bought a product but something where access can be revoked at any time while not owning even having the rights to any files on a disc most of the time nowadays - which is perfectly legal in terms of software. Would I doubt that a court in most countries would classify how they handled it as a scam as it goes way further than just the usual bs? Not really, I do imagine that this particular case may actually have a chance of getting ripped apart on every line - might be wrong about that, but I still do imagine as this pretty much is fraud by definition.

@@Unknown_Geniusthey pretty much just released an unfinished game and are taking away every single penny you spent on the game while saying f^ck you

Steam needs to make an example out of them.

@@yocloak That's why I named the second part, specifically because they don't just just shut down but run off for a re-release.

@@Unknown_Genius Correction: Even with disks, you never owned the game. You have always "rented" the game in one way or another. You have never and will never "own" any game. Get used to it, it's not possible. As usual, most commenters never read the TOS and have no actual knowledge of the Law.

Lol, that's his job. The devs job is to give BF something positive to talk about, not negative.

Lmao for real

more like a retarded move tbh

*greed and ignorance* tbh

Why are people still trying to make this blockchain shit work? Its been proven time and again, no one wants this. They are useless, wastes of time and have NO monetary value. Yet these guys somehow always end up getting sold in implementing Crypto. It has a 0% track record of working...

Maybe because that shit coin I mean Bitcoin is still kicking.

Technically they aren’t scams, if the buyer knows what they’re getting. What they _are_ is an avenue for money laundering, something that Steam seems unwilling to support.

​@@palecaptainwolfkayls8499🤓

​@@palecaptainwolfkayls8499 literally every crypto game is a ponzi/pyramid scheme, an asset pack or just some endless beta shitfest with random terms thrown around, usually without the game even existing

I haven't even heard anyone talking about NFT for over a year. It seems like a dumb business decision when most of the world has decided they're bs.

They know, they just don't care. I would guess they are just trying a desperate way to recover what was invested, and run.

​@TrizollinTehWorld the last time I heard about NFTs was back when Ubisoft was tryna implement them into Ghost Recon

You don't seem to understand that they don't care. They have decided that the money is good enough to sell their player base that will buy them. it's like selling a car that you think is about to breakdown for good. You don't care who buys it as lot as you get paid.

Cs2 skins are nfts.

😂 I feel this way about it but Shatterline was the game that got me back into gaming daily smh

Nah fr since when did scam currency become a requirement to play a damn game

Why? Gun skins in cs are essentially nfts, but aren’t called that cause valve manages the market like a bank instead of it being based on the blockchain. Why wouldn’t you want the option to sell skins you don’t want? Is it only on principle? Tbh I’m tired of not “owning” the things I’ve bought in games, let me sell off this skin I don’t use anymore.

​​​@@RePlayQnah. NFT has a processing overhead that makes it way more expensive and impractical to implement efficiently compared to centralized systems. Imagine most of what you are paying is just going to the blockchain transaction overhead. Also, there is no incentive for other developers to "integrate" another project's NFT to their game. NFTs aren't magic that assets of one game would instantly transfer to another seamlessly just because you own a particular NFT You are still not owning sht in NFTs. All you own is a link to a JPEG. If you build a game around the skin economy, that would be an instant fail. Counter-Strike was a game first but its skin economy was built later. This is different where you make the skin economy the entire focus of the game.

​​@@RePlayQYou answered it yourself: NFTs serve no real purpose. It can be done without them, games like CS:GO, TF2 or Rust are proof. NFTs are a solution looking for a problem. If devs wanted you to be able to sell your stuff to other players they could realize it without any blockchain. There is also no true benefit to using external platforms as 99,99% of game assets will always only be usable and have only value in the game they were made for. Because "interoperability" of game assets is a myth. It doesn't exist in reality, it's a fantasy made up by crypto bros who have no clue about game design and the games industry. You can't move gun A from game 1 into game 2 "just like that" with the push of one button as crypto bros would love to make you believe. It's not feasible and also has direct gameplay and yes monetary implications that could totally ruin the balance of games. Imagine if a new game released and everyone already brought everything from other games. That could absolutely destroy everything before it began and would lead to an overall simplification and streamlining of games. I don't want everything to be same-y just because some people can't just move on and enjoy things as they are without attaching some arbitrary price tag to it all.

The market is essentially dead, reminds me of all the old people still holding onto their Beanie Babies.

@@ssfbob456 How delusional from them, sad.

The technology itself is alive and well, but the “NFT crypto market” is honestly just gone. You attach 3 simple letters to anything and it will turn away 90% of people 😂

Hard enough to get folks into crypto but you wanna bring the scam of all scams like NFTs into a video game? Money money money

How do you suggest digital ownership should work? Cause as it stands right now, companies can take away any digital items at any time they deem fit. If say a gun skin were an Nft, even if the game went down, you still technically own that gun skin (just a png+3d model) and can sell it

I dont think they ever cared, i played it early on(and also quit early on) but the game was always a confused mess that didnt work together, and feedback always got handwaved away, if im being really uncharitable then i would say that the studio feels like a front for money laundering.

​@@mightywoll3 thats not true. A lot of the feedback ive given was implemented, some really quickly like the higher glass walls we have now. Indeed progress was rather slow over the last year but the game itself worked quite well to begin with. It has a backstory, nice graphics, great animations etc etc. Its a shame they werent able to keep up the initial hype when launching the alpha, i feel like we could have a full game release at this point, but unfortunately they messed it up. Been a member since we had to sign an NDA so almost from the very beginning. Game came a long way - and stopped dead in its tracks.

If Half-Life 3 released and had NFTs I would never buy it.

@@DustInTime so, we can thank Gaben, because it will never release.

@lamikal2515 I've been holding strong for close to two decades and Alyx only strengthened my resolve! It'll be here...one day.

@@DustInTime I'm sorry, but it wont. Alyx is not really a "game", but more an interactive ad for the Index. Valve as no interest in making games anymore : they can print money with other's. HL3 will never happen unless Valve decides to sell the IP. The sonner people accept it, the better.

​​@@lamikal2515 Yeah no, stop it with that "Alyx isn't a game" stuff. It's a game. And a good one, judging on the responses of people who actually played it. The only reason it's at all disappointing is because it didn't fully realize the potential of VR. But it's still a really good VR game.

The mods power trip so hard in that server it’s genuinely insane

Game was on copium life support, and now NFT is pulling the plug. They have sky high dreams, like fantasy sports, but don't have enough players to even dream of a pro scene. It's crazy delusional.

@@edmondchan3426 Their last few months of updates pushed all the good players off the game and guaranteed there would be nobody left to even make fantasy cards of

​@@onemorescouthell even their small stream partner ibrahim that had a promocode and everything has stopped playing it. Its truely a shame, it was so fun to play a round of expedition to calm down with friends. So much potention, a creative new vision that hasnt been done before. All down the drain.

Fr, some people are still stuck in 2021.

I would argue that they were never in-fashion to begin with. Just a bunch of hype for idiots to throw to a bunch of money at, with no actual payoff.

@@dartz005 I have never seen companies move as fast with trends as with crypto and NFT's. (Except AI) For a short time you had virtually any company consider implementing it. Not even the artificial hype justified that.

Not for games but you would agree Unlimited popcorn bucket NFT is good? They had that. While American Airline didn't call it NFT they sold a type of NFT with allowed you and a guess to fly for free forever. Still used to this day

@@NatsumeKonno And if I look these up and turn out to be bullshit, what do I get?

@@algi1 look what up the popcorn thing is real. I don't know if they still honor it. But hey locking in a price that goes up is smart move if you go to the movies all the time. Look at the airline guy. Some flights is so expensive but his ticket allows him to fly anytime he wants along with free food for high end payers.

Don't know, prob doesn't have to do with the man himself. Have you checked the patch notes?

@@edmondchan3426 I will never financially recover from this

Pretty sure it was only a minor drop in value.

Earth 3!

File a legal dispute if you paid for anything

Shitterlame

Yup, revoking access is one thing as its usually allowed by how licensing for software goes, but this case is just straight up fraud

@@Unknown_Genius indeed. revoking access i get with licensing and such. but this is just 100% fraud as they promised one thing, knowing they wont ever fulfill it, then turning around and just spit in the players faces and laughing at them. in this case, i hope they get sued into oblivion.

@@freakklomp Surely hope so too, if they get through with that then there's absolutely no point in spending any money on anything aside of subscription services like gamepass as the risk is too high that the single payment for one thing will backfire more often as others take note.

@@Unknown_Genius the customers really need to get together and stand up to whats blatant theft like this. file a dispute with steam, telling them exactly what they are doing and getting a refund on everything to matter what. valve might be willing to work with them because even they know this is against the law.

We pretty much have given up hope for this game. A lot of the moderation team left already, leaving a skeleton crew to deal with this. It’s a sad situation all around.

Yeah most of us volunteer mods all stepped down from the team

​@@Jernik_ i feel super bad for all the volunteer mods that actively interacted with the community and put stuff on the board etc. Rip

When demos were replaced with Early Access.... and they could sell you a half baked idea, instead of a completed game with a partial exposure to it. That is when the gaming community started going "Shut up, take my money, make it faster and give me early access to the WIP" ..... the Early Access clause is what killed gaming.

There are still some great indies, hell even AAA like FromSoftware. It's easy to believe everything were bad when many CCs tend to cover only negative stuff for easier clicks. And as far as demos go: I wish they were more normal again too. But I'm fairly sure at least some of them used to be curated, cherry-picked segments if not entirely made up and hardly representitive of the final game. I'm not sure if the demo for BigyFry's game is still on Steam, but considering the game isn't out yet I would understand if not, as you as a dev probably wouldn't want to have outdated demo builds available to the public. Updating them could also drain dev resources better spent elsewhere. I believe these costs vs. utility questions were what made many devs and publishers largely abandon the concept of demos despite our digital age of today being very good at releasing and managing them.

Web3 is for scams

Feels like a lot of these NFT games are chasing what CSGO did with skins. Like you said these developers don't have a good game to stand on. There is no foundation. They are talking about pro player cards...no one is going to play this game competitively.

@@sladnam7480 yup, exactly

dankasaurus in bigfry's comments, splendid

@@flying_geck0891 a gecko response to my comment? splendid

Said nobody with functioning brain cells

Working on it brother! You all know we can't put out something too early!

​@@BigfryTVYou can if you add NFTs

@BigfryTV that is very true Just please keep us updated and not lie unlike some devs do And is it going in early access or not ?

They're completely delusional, moving the game to epic to begin with is going to kill the already dead player base left, so what, 5 people play it on epic? but NFT,s on top ? Lol... This game is gone in 6 months if they go with that plan.

It was in the 10s of millions of people, Lot of people overseas were all into it and even to this day its pretty large

​@@dixiedadsad

There is GOG steam sucks because of DRM

@@IslamistSocialist371GOG sucks because they don't really want to give refunds even if the game is solely broken on their platform which is the sole reason why loads of devs sell there. On steam the games are either DRM free as well or only got steam stub DRM (all DRM measures are chosen by the devs, if they got one, they do it because you can refund easily and guaranteed on steam, so they want to prevent people from getting it, refunding it and playing it) - and steam stub drm is easy to remove on purpose, e.g. in case steam should go down at some point without being able to release steam stub properly as last measure. So no, I prefer Steam for the absolute reason that DRM free games are pretty much DRM free regardless - and the space saved for being able to backup the smaller installer instead of larger installed files simply doesn't outweight GOGs drawback of their poor policies.

@@IslamistSocialist371 the drm that can be bypassed with like 1 file? unless you mean denuvo, that's not steams fault.

It's being moved to the Epic Games store to allow the bullshit NFT'S

@@jamesmoucheron4799 I know, i watched the video

To me an Issue is they lied to the community saying the game was not a NFT/WEB 3 game. I believe a Web 3 or Nft game can work even if it is as something simple as a NFT Version of CS:GO Skins. But Shatterlinr lied to the fans and to their partners and are now deflecting criticism because they know they're in a death spiral

@@karmmaroo Yes, they are censoring free speech, I dont know why people put up with shit like this.

The slickest reference to minor issues i've ever read.

I saw it being mentioned in the comments on this channel every now and then. I think it's actually on my wishlist because of that (means little though because I throw lot of stuff in there). I guess that word of mouth PR is over now. 😂