Kubrick: I don't believe in Hell. *Proceeds to create it.*

Kubrick’s The Shining is both a masterpiece and a bastardization of a classic novel. A bastard-piece if you will.

I saw Stephen King live when I was in college back in 1991. He was appearing at Syracuse University. He opened by reading from Needful Things which was about to be published. Then Mr. King took questions from the audience. I got to ask one of the first questions and I asked how he felt about his work being translated to film. I went on to say how there were some films he loved like "Misery" and then there are other movies like "The Shining" that he won't even comment on. He replied, "Yeah, I'll comment on 'The Shining;" and then raised his middle finger in the air.

The Shining is arguably one of the most iconic horror films ever made, however, this doesn’t excuse the way Kubrick treated Shelley Duvall behind scenes and during filming. Even though she did say she didn’t regret doing the film, you can tell by the end of it she was absolutely miserable.

I will never understand why Shelley's performance was criticized. She gives one of my favorite performances of all time and without her, I don't think this movie would be anywhere near as good as it is, she carries this movie.

"You're wasting everyone's time--" says the one who took 148 takes for one scene. Anyway, still loving the series and am a fan!

shelley duvall gave the performance of a lifetime and set a great standard for the final girl. she has my heart forever ♥

I think Robin Williams as Jack Torrence would’ve been AMAZING! I agree that Jack Nicholson is automatically creepy like When I watched this movie for the first time the dad never felt like a “normal guy” lolol

Thank you Chauncey for saying that the abuse isn't justifiable for 'the art."

I am loving this series, Chauncey fits so well in the Dead Meat style while bringing her own uniqueness

Gotta give props to the only person who could make King not hate the Shining movie! The man, the myth, the legend Mike Flanagan! 🙌

"I always thought that the real difference between my take on it, and Stanley Kubrick's take on it, was this: In my novel, the hotel burns; in Kubrick's movie, the hotel freezes. It's the difference between warmth and cold." *-Stephen King*

I give it to Steven King 👑. He was really on Shelly's side and how he was upset about the Kubrick's abusive and bullying .it was disgusting...but yet she still pushed thru when most would quit. I give Shelly her flowers because she gave one hell of a performance unmatched by most actress's ❤ Kubrick said he has no sympathy for Shelly but with out her The Shinning wouldn't be an ICONIC movie today...

james and zoran voicing king and kubrick is just one of the small things that make my day

I think that every Kubrick movie from Spartacus to his last one can be in this series.

Stanley Kubrick was a lot like Marlon Brando. They both had a massive and respectable influence on their respective fields in Hollywood, but they were also both tyrannical egomaniacs that were seven circles of hell to work with and I feel absolutely no remorse for either of them being dead. That might sound harsh, but so were they.

Whoa holy production quality!! Here’s to James turning dead meat etc into a FRANCHISE!!!!!

This is the first episode I'm catching and I'm blown away by the production quality. Well done team.

I like that you guys are choosing well know movies and cult classic/lesser known films, same of Kill Count. I love finding out new things about the popular films and their productions and yet also learning about new films all together. This series is awesome and really well done! And Chauncey is a great host!

Kubrick wanted Wendy to be submissive and beaten down while King wrote her to be independent and fierce. Kubrick was married three times and King has been married once and still is. I think this says a ton about how awful Kubrick was to women and likely how badly Duvall was treated

I've always held a fondness for the 1997 mini-series - you can tell it was done with meticulous care and appreciation for King's novel. Also, they don't kill the one Black character in the entire thing... so *in my best James A. Janisse voice* that was nice.

I will be the first to admit Kubrick's Shining never got my attention. When I read how different Jack and Wendy were in the book, and I actually prefer Hallorann surviving the story, I saw why, as I'm someone who loves strong yet balanced characters. I would have loved to see a more human Jack and a stronger Wendy on screen. Good thing King at least tried with the TV miniseries.

So crazy to be a King's reader, and knowing how important the Shining is for the whole dark tower universe

I will say this. I enjoy the new show but I feel like we need longer versions or multipleparts? It has amazing presentation and I'm always against new hosts on KZfaq channels but I genuinely admire the work energy and attitude, thank you for the great content. If the worst thing that I can say is it needs to be longer than you're doing something right.

This felt like something you'd see on discovery/disney with the incredible production value. Great job everyone!

Most of us know the troubles of this film.. but I'm glad Dead Meat is "Shining" a comprehensive, unbiased light on it. Polarizing is an understatement with this one, folks.

so great to see where dead meat is now. Ill never forget James' Friday the 13th Kill Counts helping me get over my fear of the dark years ago.

That scene that shows he hasn’t been writing this whole time really strikes writers every writer understands this

It’s definitely insane how much of the behind the scenes material for The Shining shed a light on such a notoriously difficult director with such an iconic legacy. Coming from a fan of Kubrick’s filmography as a whole, even I’ll admit that his dreaded perfectionism could be excessive to the point of being a test of endurance within itself. Even those who worked on his films had expressed concerns working with him before accepting parts in his films, having to ask the question, “Is the physical and emotional exhaustion worth it to work with one of the best?” It’s clear going off that alone that his reputation as a brutal taskmaster preceded him. Ultimately I’m happy y’all at Dead Meat did this episode talking about the woes that went into making such an iconic film. Kubrick’s The Shining might’ve failed as an adaptation in the broad sense of things, but it’s still a great horror film nonetheless. I also tip my hat to the actors who had to fight tooth and nail to see it thru under Kubrick’s iron fisted direction, especially Shelley DuVall and Scatman Crothers as the major ones who got pushed the furthest they had ever been pushed before as performers.

I’m really enjoying this series, it’s helping me learn more things about these movies that I didn’t know along with things I did

Why did this video feel like the preamble to a good documentary instead of an actual finished work by itself?

I'm loving this show so much more than even I thought I was going to. Great work to Chauncey and the Dead Meat crew!

People should look more into Shelly's own words around the production. Dr. Phil and other people exploited Shelly in her old age, and it really paints her experience on The Shining as something that broke her mentally. But that's not the case. She has repeatedly said that she had a great time, and that she learned more and pushed herself as an actor more on the set than any other film she's done. Obviously Kubrick was a jerk at times, but he didn't ruin Shelly's life. Not defending him... just asking that people listen to Shelly's own words rather than relying on heresay.

Chauncey is such a compelling host! Love her work on the series so far!

Even if these videos don’t get the same amount of love as the kill counts do, just know that we still appreciate and enjoy them!

I am absolutely adoring this series as a fun fact gorlie. I am also SO HAPPY that someone is out here saying they dislike Kubrick's "adaptation" of The Shining. It felt like such a mean spirited film both to the source material and to Shelley. I am on an even rarer team though in that...I actually really enjoyed the mini series.

I highly recommend downloading those commentary tracks. They’ve been fun to listen along to

Shelly Duvall has said in recent years that The Shining was not any kind of contributor to the decline of her mental health or career. She worked for many years after the shining on her fairytale show.

I am constantly blown away by your video quality.. this seriously feels like a TV series you'd watch on TV. So well done.

The production effort of this video. Y’all are outdoing yourselves & I am here for it!!

Bro, Scatman had to do like 10 hours of takes for like 10 minutes of screentime 😭

Never seen this series or host on the channel. More production tales from hell and more Chauncey please!

I can't help but laugh at the dramatic tone change going into the sponsor bit

I am loving this show. It really feels like something I'd catch on TV growing up - it's sooooo well-produced!

I can’t get over how well the opening is done! Looooove watching these!🥰🥰🥰🥰

PTFH is my new favorite part of Dead Meat (besides the podcast!)! They are cozy watches and I love learning new BTS about what went into and came out of these iconic films.

Another great episode! It always hurts to hear what Duvall went through during the making of this movie

Yay! So good! These episodes need to be a little longer! I’m always left wanting more.

Kubrick was an asshole to Shelley Duvall, but it always bothers me to see people on Twitter saying that Shelley Duvall never recovered professionally after "The Shining", and with all the HUGE respect I have for Dead Meat and the people who made this video, I confess I was a little disappointed to see that this video didn't do much to erase this false narrative... After "The Shining", Duvall created and starred in "Faerie Tale Theatre", a wonderful TV series that ran from 1982 until 1987 in which she worked with some of the biggest names in Hollywood, and then in 1992 she received two Emmy nominations for "Tall Tales & Legends" and "Shelley Duvall's Bedtime Stories." But I suppose maybe they felt that wasn't relevant to the video itself, which focuses on the troubled production of "The Shining." Still, good video and a good series so far. And I recommend "Fairie Tale Theater", several episodes have horror elements.

Can’t wait to see more of this series! Great host and super interesting info, big W for Dead Meat

really enjoying this series! One of my favorite parts about the kill counts are learning about the production of horror movies, so this has been right up my alley!!

loving this series so far! its so sleek and professional that it feels tv-caliber, it reminds me of the halloween specials i used to watch on tv as a kid :)

THANK YOU! Someone said it, finally. The Hell that Duvall and Crothers went through wasn't worth a 4/10 movie that flung so much hate at one of the only King stories I really like. The Shining duology and Pet Cemetery are the only ones I liked, personally, the other ones were okay, and got dragged down by how famous he was, and how critical I get of famed writers. I never liked The Shining movie because of all of this, but then Doctor Sleep came out, and is one of my favorite horror movies ever.

idk about yall, but i absolutely love the intro for this series. it really goes to show just how far Dead Meat has come in terms of quality and production

I love this series and I'm so excited with the direction of content on Dead Meat - We always loved James and Chelsea but, with Zoran and now Chauncey, the expansion of the dead meat universe is amazing!

This is a great entry into a new series. Will def be continuing. Great job, Chauncey!! ❤❤

all 3 episodes so far have been amazing i know this series going to be a channel classic

One of my favorite horror movies ever, watched it when I was like 13 and my dad circumvented mom (also not the first of a bunch of movies, like Alien and Blade Runner) to tell me I was old enough. But told me not to tell her.

The Shinning! In the words of Groundskeeper Willie!

I find it interesting that the more faithful adaptation later made was considered a failure compared to Kubrick's version which is remembered as a horror icon

Starting to look forward to these nearly as much as the kill counts. Great presentation and very informative and thorough videos.

Absolutely loving this series so far!!! Already looking forward to every episode ❤️

i’ve been loving this series!! Chauncey is amazing, i only knew her from her episodes on the podcast before this but i’m a huge fan

I’ve always been a firm believer that Kubrick’s adaptation is one of the greatest horror movies ever made, but also one of the worst Stephen King adaptations ever made. Right up there with Steven Spielberg’s adaptation of Jurassic Park. Monumentally amazing movie, dumpster fire of an adaptation.

Love this series, please keep blessing us with more great content guys. Much love✨️

Love the new content. the production is crisp. Love you guys!

And next episode of production tales from hell… THE WIZARD OF OZ HELL YEEEEEE lol

I like this format soo much, are lesser known movies also planned in the future?

I love these videos Chauncey!! Keep it up!!

I was at a Q&A with Michael Biehn about a year ago, and at some point, The Shining was mentioned and he did not hold back his distaste for it. Mainly for Kubrick and his treatment of Shelley Duvall, as well as his pedantic approach towards film-making. Ironically, he defended James Cameron and his style (and approach) towards perfectionist directing and treatment of actors; particularly on The Abyss. Both hellish productions, though The Shining is arguably more so.

Hi James, I havent been to this channel for a while so just wanna catch up by saying my deepest condolences on your dads passing and a big congratulations on your marriage! Wishing you all the happiness

Please never stop making these I love em!

I repeat this to myself anytime I watch the movie “Love the art, not the artist”

Absolutely love this series ! Amazing host, intro, production, all of it 🤩🤩

This new show needs to get more views. I’m really enjoying it! Keep it up!

Clicked this so fast, I always love hearing about the shining and its production.

The blood in the elevator 😌✊

I don't say this to justify what Kubrick did to Shelley Duvall, but to give her some of the praise she missed out on during the initial reviews of the film; Shelley's performance is hands-down the best performance in the movie. She starts from a place of extreme vulnerability, but through that vulnerability accesses a believable strength in the face of fear that keeps her character and character's son alive. The movie isn't scary or emotionally impactful without her phenomenal performance.

The movie was great by itself. but as an adaptation of the book, nah. It took me many years until i picked up the book because I just didn't care much for the film. The book is one of my favorite King novels, especially the audiobook narrated by Campbell Scott. Scott did excellent narrating that book.

Loved it! I need more of those! Great job dead meat!

I respect Stephen King, but not for being 1 of the “Masters of Horror,” and he, Carpenter, Craven, Hitchcock and 2 or 3 others I can’t seem to remember, are collectively known, I respect King for the impact he’s had in taking Horror mainstream & the basis many people have built upon for their own work, but his books are not scary, the first horror “movie,” I ever saw front beginning to end at age 4-5, was the It Miniseries, and so he’s always been with me, but later in life I read the novel It, and it’s hard to be afraid of something, that constantly took me out of the story, by being so confusing & waterboarding you with pointless detail, that I had to keep re-reading parts I had just read, to make sure I didn’t have a stroke or miss something, because what I was currently reading wouldn’t make sense in my head. A common issue that probably is why his film adaptations usually stray away from the novel & the missing parts are replaced with jump scares or shocking imagery, making it more of a Horror movie, as I believe Stephen King is a terrible HORROR author, but is a great “Master of Sci-Fi,” as Science fiction is more appropriate I think. Regardless, I find it humorous that he stopped protesting too much after he finally had first hand experience at how hard his work is to adapt, producing & writing the script The Shining mini-series (and failing to win audiences over) & directing Maximum Overdrive (The greatest nonsense EVER, “hey we’re trucks who need gas, let’s let humans know by wasting gas, running them over & driving in a circle around gas pumps for what feels like an hour” lmfao)

I had no idea that Stephen King tried to work on the script and butted heads with him. I just thought that he saw the movie and didn’t like it the way Stanley adapted it. Poor Stephen.

Waited all week for this!! 😍

This was a very informative watch. I never watched The Shining myself, but heard about it endlessly as a horror fan. I had heard Stephen King didn't like it, but never any details as to why.

These are phenomenal videos for a Sunday morning!!

I"m so glad you put a spotlight on this film! Many people hold it up as a masterpiece of cinema but overlook the fact that no actor should feel afraid while filming. Keep up the great work!

I remember when you couldn't find anything about the movie and no one talked about it. It used to be my favorite film but now I just sound pretentious. It's crazy. I am glad it's recognized as the greatest contribution to horror movies as it should be.

The older I get the more I realize I don't care for this movie as much as I once did. The performances all either wrong or flat out bad, and it being made by people who didn't think the book was even good just took away everything great about the book. Combine that with the hideous abuse that went unpunished, and I'm good on it I think.

When reading the book after watching the movie, I was surprised in seeing how sympathetic Jack is compared to the movie. While he still tried to kill Wendy and Danny, it was clear the hotel pushed him to do it, and in the end, he held through long enough for Danny to escape and live. While the book doesn’t hide how his alcoholism hurt his family, they made it clear he wanted to stop upon seeing the impact it had on his family

These videos are amazing! Thank you so much Chauncey, Chelsea and James!

Again, Huge fan of this series. This is broadcast quality and the host is perfect!

Moral of the story: Don't let your ego get too unrestricted.

these are so good i love them!

Got there in 2 min. Such an iconic movie that I don’t want to miss it

Really loving this series so far, Chauncey you are doing an incredible job!

As I've gotten older, I appreciate Duvall's performance and Wendy's character more and more. Admittedly I can see a lot of myself in her, and the way she tries against odds to pacify Jack and keep the peace. She is clearly emotionally beaten down by Jack even at the start of the film, but it is just not in her nature to suddenly become a badass female protagonist. When she suspects Jack has hurt Danny, she snaps out of her defacto peacekeeper role and fights to do what needs to be done to protect her son only to encounter a metric ton of ghosts and horrible images. I think she is a realistic depiction of how a certain personality type would act under those conditions. And that is all thanks to Duvall's strength as an actress and no thanks to Kubrick's ghoulish behavior towards her on set.

I'm a massive Stephen King fan. I've read everything he's ever written at least once, much of it two or more. When it comes to The Shining, I really enjoy both the film and the book. I'm glad I saw the movie long before I even heard of the book (I think I was like 10 or 11). Years later once I finally read it, I prefer the book, though I don't give a whole lot of stock to liking on piece of media over the other when they are two different art mediums. I guess I should say as an adaption of the story, I would prefer to read the book rather than watch the film. The book is largely about struggling with alcoholism, the physical abuse of Danny that came from it, and the lasting rift that it created between Wendy and Jack in their marriage now that she can no longer trust him. As a recovering alcoholic who also has a father that is a recovering alcoholic, I resonated a lot with the book. Though my dad never physically abused me, he was absent for large chunks of my life due to rehab (he's a dentist so the medical board makes you go through hell to get back to practicing medicine). He also was sometimes verbally abusive and did things that are traumatizing. One time, he tripped on one of my toys which angered him and he went rampaging around the house throwing all of our toys in a trash bag and throwing them outside. Other than spankings, I don't think I was ever physically abused. I think the movie doesn't really capture anything emotional and doesn't really focus on Jack's drinking or physical abuse. I do think this film is overly praised as one of the greatest horror films of all time. The Room 237 documentary tries to paint Stanley Kubrick as an almost otherworldly genius director who filled every frame of the movie with incredible meaning. Stanley Kubrick is a great director, and I'd even go so far as to say one of the GOATs, but his films aren't calculated to the point where he designed every label on the cans in the pantry. As far as King not liking the movie, I can understand why he might dislike it, but he seems to have such a bitter hatred for it. Like, I don't understand why this one was so much worse than some of the other adaptions of his movies. I would go to say that like 90% of the adaptions of his work are mediocre or utterly horrible. Pretty much every adaptation of his that comes out, he says it is great so I'm not sure if I can say my definition of a good film vibes with King's. I guess like you said in the video, maybe it is a more personal book because of King's own struggle with alcohol.

What a succinct video. It felt so full for

Can’t wait to see them go over Evil Dead

The shining was the first ever horror movie I saw and i absolutely love it. I credit it for my love of horror.