Great video thank you! You guys have a great website so much easier to use to find parts and so on. You guys are killing it!

"Well".... you live and learn. A thorough description and important need to know

Always love watching your videos, keep em coming RM!

I have a Tusk Lithium Pro in my CRF250X and love it! Thanks for the video.

i have a tusk lithium bat and charger. had em over a yr. couldnt be happier.

I've had the same Shorai battery in my Sprint ST 1050 for about 15 years now. It has never left me stranded. Yes, I do have to warm it up when it's very cold, either by running the headlight and heated grips for a bit or just by cranking it for a while, but that's only when it's so cold that my original lead acid battery wouldn't start at all. I thought it had finally given up this winter and was ready to buy another one, but turned out that between remote work and having a second bike, it just wasn't getting charged as often and after a night on the tender it's happy again. Whenever it does die, I'm definitely buying another, and my other bike will also get one as soon as the oem battery gives me the first hint of trouble.

Thanks for doing this. There is lots of good information here.

hi charles, please which of the lithium batteries will best recommened for a 2014 yamaha Yzf R1 crossplane , coz i need to get one Asap , not having a good battery on my bike has cost me pains and i dont want such pain again ?

I remember using the headlight trick in the 70s to crank a Chevy Impala.

Great info on the lithiums. My BMW R1300GS is using a BMS battery from Lithiummoto and i got the remote restart feature if ever I leave the power on working on it.

On the charger front id recommend some of the noco chargers. They have some that are like $25, or were, and work great for all kinds of batteries

Great video. Thanks for your help...

Helpful, thanks. I've had my current bike 15 years... Only on my 4th acid battery, but wondering about a switch. If a battery makes it another 5 years it might be the only bit on the bike that works lol.

is ir works on aprilia sr150cc battery lithuim ?? and any suggestion for modified parts ?? thanks if you can help!

Great video very informative

Great and onformative video. Please keep them coming! I've wasted a lot of money on Lithium batteries because I didn't truly uderstand the differences. Plus, there's that nasty parasitic draw on the DRZ400S!

Great description. I recently put one in my 2017 KTM 690 Duke. But these batteries are not recommended for use with the old style potted rectifier/regulator on bikes like my 2002 Moto Guzzi V11 LeMans, as these rectifier/regulators can overcharge the LiFe batteries. The BMS equipped batteries might be able to handle this overcharging but I wouldn’t risk it.

Excellent. Thanks

Great video. Got a question about using a jump pack on the battery in case it doesn't start? Can you use a jump pack on a lithium battery? Thanks for any input.

Can you store a bike with a lithium battery in it through the winter with a trickle charger that just maintains the charge

Good information 👍

30-60 seconds with the headlight on to warm up the battery ! This is the future guys.

Does your tusk lithium charger maintain the battery as well for storage? Can I leave it hooked up during the winter months or do I have to go, hook it up, leave it til it’s charged and unhook again?

I havent strated my 17 KTM sxf250 in 2 years, should i try to start it? Or just assume the battery is dead? Can it be recharged or do i need a new battery?

3:33 You say the machine puts out 14.5 volts and works great for both batteries.. Then why would i need a charger? I have a hobby charger but won't the bike keep it charged?

You mentioned the surges while on a charge but it’s ok with the vehicle charging?

Been looking into getting one for my sportster 1200 agm don't last

Great video only thing you didn't address is these going into a UTV that sees a lot of water and mud riding. Can these be submerged on a regular basis and if not, can they be placed in a battery box with say a 2" vented tube above the bed like most snorkled UTVs?

wonder which ones have BMS that will turn off charging when temps drop. charging lithium battery below 5c will kill it pretty quick. Lithium are higher Standing Voltage, 13.8V vs Leadacid 12.8V

What about the charging from the bike while riding? Do you need to add or do anything to the bike to install one of these, or is it plug and play, just throw it in like any new battery?

Do you guys have a video on gps

Does a typical 2000 erra bike (BMW gs) have the correct charging system to work with one of these batteries? What about my WR250R?

so it use special charger . how am i gonna charge it when it connected to my car do i have to disconnect the cable and use special charger?

I know you are talking about motorcycle and ate but would you know if you can put a lithium battery in a riding mower and can the alternator charge it.

if you need a special tickle charger for the lithium battery. what about the bike's charging system? does it need to be changed too? could it over charge the battery?

Can you or should you jump start a lithium battery with a jumper pack? Is it "safe"?

You didn't touch on the automotive charge system with the Li. Will it work ok? Any changes to be made? The charge rate on an alternator, works with Li? Why that and not a Pb battery charger?

Do you need a different voltage regulator rectifier when swapping to a lithium battery?

Are OEM charging systems compatible in charging Lithium Batteries? You mentioned it takes a "special" external charger for maintaining Li batteries, how does the OEM charging system compensate for the use of Lithium batteries without being "special"?

Brilliant

for batteries with bms can we use standard chargers?

What about the bike charging system, It gives dc voltage to charge from the voltage regulator. Is this an issue for charging while riding?

Thanks for the info. Can I use an Antigravity XP-5 micro start to jump my tusk lithium pro battery TLFP-7L or will it damage the lithium battery?I don’t believe the TLFP-7L has a battery management system?

Can they handle 14.5V set point Voltage regulator or do they need a 14.2V set point recharge set up/VRR….?

Lithium is the only way to go....

I'm still confused about them being capable of charging with the stator on the engine, can they safely be charged? I've also seen in Amazon comments of potential for killing the engines stator. If this is a problem, due to supplied voltage being too variable, is there any device that might be installed inline to stabilize it?

Assuming you put in LiFePO4 version, like an Antigravity, and it's cold out in the morning as you leave the hotel say 25-30 deg F, you can start it by leaving the lights on for few minutes. But as soon as the engine starts, the 32-56 amp alternator on the bike will charge the battery. LiFePO4 does not like to take a charge at below 32 deg F. It can damage them. Is that true? If so, they aren't a good idea unless you live in Florida?

I have moved two of my Harley’s over to the lithium restart batteries. Issue I’m having is with the usb connection that charges my phone while riding … since switching batteries my phone will not charge while bike is running. As soon as I shut the bikes off the phones again begin charging. Is there anything I can do with the auxiliary usb connection that will allow it to charge my phone while the bike is running?

Yep

Then how the car charge or motorcycle charge dont broke the lithium battery and a plug home acid charger can broke it ?

I believe there is a Hugh difference lithium ion and lithium iron phosphate batteries. I don’t believe I heard you mention either by their proper name, other than the brief glimpse of the lithium ion label on the battery at the end of the video. Things like deep discharge, operating temperature, heat, and fire safety, are worth mentioning in a future video. Lithium iron phosphate (LiFePo) construction is a much better choice in all these areas. Perhaps this would help others to make a more informed choice, and remove some of the fears people have about the, often dangerous, using lithium ion batteries. Just my 3 cents.✌️

Anything Below 19 Degrees F, bring it in the house . weight, and Battery Efficiency, are the two main benefits ... lead acid is 100% in from your alt, and 50% of that power comes back out ... where Li-ion is 100% in, and 90% back out. that means your Vreg is going to run cooler, and you will get better MPG, or a touch more engine power.

Surprised that you didn't cover the potential risks of charging in below freezing temperatures

What you see at 2:05 is not a BMS but a cheap balance board. The main pos. and neg. lead go straight to the battery pack so no protection against over or under voltage.

Can I replace my UPS battery with that battery with a lithium battery 100ah for more capacity? I have a 600 watts UPS in which I have my computer, 2 monitors and the router plug in. Can I use that battery? Thank you for your time and assistance!

Where can i get a firepower battery in Canada

If I daily ride my bike all year round, will I still need the charger or tender?

I've seen some information about lithium battery's stating they can't be charged when freezing. I find it very strange and don't really believe it but i use my bikes all year round and i find it too much of a risk buying one because i never found a confirmation i'm right to call it Bulls**t. Also a confusing thing is that i want a LiFePo4 battery but most of them still called Lithium-ion and not all of them have a clear "with LiFePo4 technology" in the description. Any thought about that?

i am not sold on this yet. I have a 2014 cb500x with the stock battery that still starts the bike no problem and yes I do keep it on a battery tender brand when not in use. That being said I ride to work and the bike sits for 9 to 11 hours before I try to start it.. I also live in central California where we do not get the extremes of weather that a lot of people get.

if I cant use a regular charger on it,then why is the vehicles charging system OK to use?

Can we jump start a lithium battery with a jumper? Is it possible and safe?

Regarding storage - Why not disconnect the positive?

Got a Shorai lithium battery for klr last spring. No issues. Then removed it and stored inside all winter. No charger, and this spring it was down 2 volts. Installed it and no problems. Rediculous weight saving, like 3/4 the weight of an AGM or Lead. There's a double USB and 12 volt out let wired into the bike. Also run LED bulbs all around. Klr has no problems cranking or charging stuff. The battery came with multiple sized foam inserts and a couple sized steekers.✌

Can someone please explain the process, I would like to change to a lithium battery on my motorcycle? Does a lithium motorcycle battery charge while driving? Will the alternator overcharge the lithium battery or damage it. Do you have to charge the battery each day, each week, each month?

What about the vehicle charging the lithium battery , will that damage the battery as its not a lithium charger

Optimum charge percentage for long term storage is roughly 80% storing a lithium at 100% actually will cause it to drain faster, weird I know but it does. I raced R/C at regional level and used lithium in electric class, from 10th to 8th scale, lithium batteries changed R/C racing drastically. My favorite race venue was the annual Phsycho Nitro Blast, with 300 racers, track open 24hours for 3 days

Can you charge a Lithium Ion 12v battery with a Lithium Iron (LiFePO4) 12v charger????

I tried a Shorai in my BMW K1200LT back in 2011. At first things seemed pretty good other than Shorai used a nonstandard case size so I had to fill my battery box with foam shims which was a pain and the hold-down clamp did not fit the Shorai properly. The first Shorai died 8 months after I bought it because the Shorai BMS01 charger had a firmware flaw that didn’t allow the charger to come back on after a power failure. I didn’t notice that the charger had failed and the battery discharged so far it would not recover. Shorai replaced the battery under warranty and promised a firmware fix for their charger, but that never happened and they finally stopped replying to my inquiries about getting the charger fixed so it became a paperweight. The second battery had higher capacity, but still would not crank my LT fast enough to start it when the temp dropped below about 45 degrees. This was a real pain on a trip to Alaska. I either had to get someone to jump start my bike in the morning or I had to turn on the lights and wait 5-10 minutes for the battery to warm up enough to crank the engine. When that Shorai died after 8 years (decent life, I will give it that, but not when the cost is factored in), I went back to cheap AGM batteries that will start at my bike at 20 degrees (I tested that one morning last year in West Yellowstone), last 4-6 years and cost 1/3 what a Shorai costs. So, you all can have your lithium batteries. I was an early adopter and won’t buy another for a motor vehicle that needs to start reliability in PA where the morning temps are below 45 for about half the year.

I’ve bought one, it will be my last. Cold weather performance is bad. Winter months require me to place a clamp light with a 100 watt incandescent bulb the night before if I want to ride

How do the lithium cells stay balanced?

Too bad y'all dont have anything listed for an Africa Twin.

I see videos of fires started by lithium batteries in vehicles. So are they safe?

Quicker starting? Quicker to run from the cops. Cold weather 30 second is good. I never maintain the battery, it 5 years old already.

Will my alternator damage the battery ???

Lead acid is better suited to a motor vehicle. Lead acid will not overcharge.

Why is an Lithium charger required to charge an Lithium battery but why does it works plug and play in a bike? I asked an store owner who sells Lithium battery but he did not know either.

Car and motorcycle type batteries should not need or benefit from more cycle's. They are not supposed to be drained. A regular battery Will last a decade or longer. I doubt that lithium will. And unless it has internal heater's it will be useless or damaged in cool weather not to mention cold weather. How about under the hood of a vehicle in warm states. They don't like heat either. Regardless of the battery type draining it down will damage and reduce it's useful Life. I use lithium batteries in alot of things but, not vehicles. Cheers

You are wrong. Lithium ion, Li Fe po4 batteries shall be stored, for longer periods of time, at 20-50% of it's capacity, at room temperature .

You forgot to mention price will be higher than lead based.snooky pa.

So battery and a charger

Car and tucks batters

One important thing with Lithium batteries is if the temperature of the battery is less then 0c it gets ruined if you charge it at that temperature...

One thing to keep in mind is that a Lithium battery lacks the Ampere Hours of regular batteries, meaning if you have a motorcycle that you drain a lot of electricity out of when its not running go for an AGM battery instead, an example of this would be a and ATV with a winch on it.

A lot of motor cycles that don't run lights don't run a rectifier regulator so the AC voltage blows batteries you need to add a regulator rectifier for turn AC from the stator to DC for charging up the battery I see so many failures and bad comments on How crap lithium is because of this.

No one answers if these are good for use on equipment that have a lot of accessories, such as running lights, dash cameras or phone chargers...

Those antigravity don’t last long I got a tusk one that lasted triple long as antigravity

Can a lithium battery be jumped if its low?

Lithium batteries can't be submerged in water, so beware in what powersports vehicle you gonna use it. Also if using same battery size and have a winch the bsm will go protection mode turn off battery power

I've heard horror stories of lithium batteries catching fire and burning up the motorcycle. Any truth to that? I'd sure hate to burn up my $30k Harley

I sure wish folks, you included, would use correct terminology when referring to these types of batteries. Stop calling them lithium. They are lithium iron phosphate batteries. Huge difference!

Man, I am so glad I am carbureted.

can i leave the battery charging , continuously and cut off when charged. what do i use for it

Don't list any for 2022 polaris rzr trail s 1000 premium

Ok but sell me that 401 because you guys and everyone else are out of stock

Sorry guys but if you change from lead-acid battery to a lithium you have to change chargers?? and you don't have to change alternator ???🤔

At 3:36 you said your motorcycle charges at 14 .5 volts . That is not true most regulators at the stator that come standard with lead acid battery are 13.5 volts max to charge a 12 volt battery that needs 13.5 volts to charge it . If it had a 14.5 regulator it would over charge the lead acid battery . Only bikes that come from the factory come with the correct regulator needed to charge the 13 volt battery . If you notice the lithium battery will say 13 volts not 12 volts like a lead acid battery does . You can use a lithium battery in a bike that has a 13.5 regulator but it will never put a full charge on the lithium . Look into this before you make a video saying your machine charges at 14.5 volts because that is just not the case if your motocycle comes with a stock lead acid battery . To prove this just put a tester on a started bike's battery terminals

I wouldn’t run one of those batteries if they were free.

The SHOCKING Fact is that if you got lithium is better if you don't have car alarm. search for your best choice with no problems. or put a button to kill the battery from inside the car when off.

What's the difference between a Lithium battery, and a Lithium-ion battery?

TO EVERYONE IN KZfaq LAND I'm an electronic engineer If I need a special lithium battery charger to charge a lithium motorcycle battery THEN WHY AM I NOT CHANGING THE ALTERNATOR AND VOLTAGE REGULATOR ON MY BIKE (THAY ARE FOR LED ACID ) the BMS ( Battery Management System ) in the lithium battery dose this for us !!! please do not give out False info . the battery is made at the factory as a direct replacement (hens the name "motorcycle" battery) for a led acid battery AND "DOSE NOT REQURE A special CHARGER" !!