Please make a video about aion classic gameforge. I do gind it as a big scam to its with this siel aura

History now tells us Mark Jacobs is incompetent. He had very little to do with DAoCs success. Matt Firor was the person who made DAoC successful. Mark just tagged along. Look at the games they went on to create. Matt Firor was part of the Elders Scroll Online. He is now the president of Zenimax Online. Mark Jacobs was part of Warhammer Online... but Electronic Arts canned him midway through the development cycle. Everyone blamed EA for Warhammer's failure at the time, but looking back we can now see its failure was most likely due to Mark's incompetence. He needs to come out and say this Camelot Unchained project is beyond his capabilities and apologize for the mess he created rather than drag it on for years. He needs to man up and suffer the consequences of his corrupt actions. Unfortunately, he is doubling down on the scam by bringing up Artificial Intelligence as a development game changer for Camelot Unchained as a means to continue scamming people out of money. People need to stop covering this nonexistent game.

masterworks is just physical nfts

Also, Lucky, do you know where the other half of Mythic went? You are probably extremely familiar with him, he's been much more successful than Mark since they departed.

@@arcan762 Well I'm not alleging anything but...

Me too....was the only game i'd ever played even after playing it tons and tons of hours, i'd still go for a walk in the in-game woods, or familiar towns just to take a stroll....a truly amazing game.

Exactly, the stat cap combined with the craft system made it a must do to gear with craftables + lootables which is brilliant. Being able to get PvP XP with no seasonnal reset and meaningful skills out of it is absolutely amazing. And without creating a too wide power gap between grinders and casual since the sheer exponential amount of xp you need to get as you progress mitigate the difference in play time. This game was absolutely perfection in its systems

@@dae8837 What i loved the most was that you have to spend PvE time to get better gear even for PVP. All this time in Atlantis spend and such, using tools to perfectly build your character equipment and over stacking stuff e.t.c. Was just great... All this different classes, which were really different. Today MMOs do just a few basic classes or MAYBE release 1 class every 3 years or something... Its hard to balance and needs alot of content, so they usually dont add much classes this days. The realms e.t.c. were just so different too. Its the MMO i enjoyed the most by far.

Indeed. I played DAOC for 8 years with a total playtime of around 600 real days. :\ It was a very good PVP and PVE game. I have founded on Camelot Unchained hoping it would become the successor of DAOC. I tried a weekend stress test years back and it was HORRIBLE, and I can see it still is. Real shame...

DAOC is still around, and you can use the keys on your old CDs or purchase keys if you've not played it before. It does look dated, but the gameplay is still rock solid. If Mythic hadn't tried to slay WOW with Warhammer Online (still a good game) DAOC maye have received more updates and still be going.

Same. I loved DAOC. So much that in the first days of announcing crowdfunding for CU, even before a Kickstarter, I toss Mark 500 bucks. I believed in it myself. Still hoping.

One thing I loved with DAOC that I wish in the early days WOW did, was that you where in a guild but also your guild was in a realm alliance. That way you knew when stuff was going down. Sure WOW didn't have the PVP of DAOC but early on the PVP was going crazy and it would have been cool other than the zone chat. DAOC to me is still the greatest mmo ever. The 3 realm thing really worked great especially when one side got to big and the other 2 could still team up on them. Grabbing relics and super late night early morning raids. One thing I wonder is, are we all too old now to do something like that, that had late night early morning raids? It doesn't seem like the new generation really play MMO's like that anymore, but maybe they do and it's just so many out there, everyone is spread out between them all.

@@LegendaryOldwarrior Nowadays we would probably just get some players from another country playing on the wrong server so they could take advantage of the time difference to farm and sell stuff. I will never forget going back to DAOC years later and running out to the Realm Dragon spawn just to see stuff again, and to my surprise found a group there. I asked to join and they responded with "We are farmer" and nothing else. Basically some Chinese guild of farming accounts killing the dragon whenever it spawned to sell the items to people. I doubt we would ever get the same experience we used to. I remember being in a 40 man raid on the dragon, watching people drop like flies, and eventually killing it. Then all of us rushing to the enemy realm gate. We timed it and then all rushed in when people opened the gates. 2 of us made it through to the other side, and you are actually able to explore the enemy realm. I was one that made it. I ran around for about 2 hours in the enemy realm waving to people and being friendly to noobs before a group of 50s hunted me down. I did find out if you attack the guards of the low level towns, they will announce to the whole faction that the town is under attack. So it seems like it was intended that people could get in and planned for. I wish it happened more often.

Same. I played it from Beta and left it with LotM. Basically, the game I loved was dead after ToA. From there it was grind and filled with selfish players. The flair and the atmosphere were lost for me, and I still played it thanks to my great guild. But at LotM it was finally over for me

@@Bancheis Yep you are right, the gold/loot farmers would be out in full force nowadays. It just wouldn't be the same. Too many MMO's and people would be spread out. Now if DAOC did stuff right and could pull a lot of people in, than maybe it could get back to the old ways a little, however, I just think there are sooo many MMO's and really other games out there, it would be hard to get enough people to do all the things we use to do. Bummer for sure. I thought WarHammer would do it, and at first it felt like it would. However with the server's not being able to handle huge groups and only allowing what like 50 people from each faction to sack the main city, it really just turned off everyone. Also I think some classes were broken. I can't remember fully. I do remember the early game especially the pvp was fun.

same here. I'm still hoping for a miracle to bring back that DAoC experience, but the oxygen's getting thin up here.

Surprised Guild Wars 1 wasn't on there. CoH/CoV so fun too

Actually a fascinating point

I had no idea this happened but it makes sense. Warhammer Online really perfected the stuff that didn't exist in DAOC's RvR, the only problem was it didn't have that third realm to serve as a balance for when one of the realms was overpowering the other. I don't know much about Elder Scrolls online, but the fact that people still play that game must mean it's end game is just as fun as Warhammer Online's was.

If you played DAoC, you really should give ESO a try even if it's just for the RvR part. Granted, it's different classes but the core principles are the same down to each of the 3 sides having 2 relics to fight over called Elder Scrolls in this case, of course. Each side has 2 keeps as access points to the zone with a wall protecting them... it really brought back a lot of fun memories when I first visited the zone. All I'm missing is a Darkness Falls where I could go hunting low levels with my Infiltrator while humming the Jaws Theme. :)

@@Erulin68 Man, I loved stalking DF after losing access. The Ironman mode kicks in and you know you only have 1 life, and can't get back in until your realm recaptures the castles. It raised the adrenaline whenever you faced a tough battle, or had groups hunting you down.

ESO world pvp map and systems is everything I want from an MMO as a former daoc, warhammer, albion online and SWG (original) player... But ESO combat is absolutely awful! Imagine if that game was a tab-target style MMO, it could have been amazing!!

not my first, but the one with the best memories... my favorites where stealth hunting in darkness falls after losing control!

@@jeremytine My was being a Sorc in a 8v8 that teamed up with 2 other 8v8s and took on all of Mid in their own realm for 30 mins. or so. This was before New Frontiers made RvR one map. Sad part, no one was recording when it happened. :(

Same and ditto. DAoC and Star Wars Galaxies.

I think the real problem will be whether it can attract people who didn't contribute to the kick starter, as it will have to draw a lot more people than the backers to be successful. And if the UI and graphics remain primitive, I fear it wont last long. I wish he would have changed his mind and accepted defeat and given up on the new engine in the first 3 or 4 years when it was realized it was way more than they could handle.

@@matthewfunk9271Here is one person that didnt participate in kickstarter but is looking forward to playing the game. (I didnt even know about it back then)

hey dude, ive heard kickstarters can play every weekend. Did u test it recently? how was it?

@@Cl0wn1234 The last time I tested it was about a month ago, or so. I was the only player, as far as I could tell, and it was not a good experience. Graphics are crap, movement is crap, things to do is crap, etc. I know this is still Alpha but I've tested a lot of developing games over the decades I've been gaming and there was nothing here that inspired me to come back and test again. I didn't even see a note from the Devs when I logged in on what they wanted me to "test" for them....I just dropped in and was solo vs nothing and no one....not even mobs or NPC's.

eso has the single worst combat of any mmo released yes even chinese shovelware animation canceling in a mmopvp game where players have to deal with ping is beyond dumb

​@@mekal177explain how it's the worst combat system of any MMO.

@@wrbk19 huh? its already in my comment

@@mekal177 how is animation canceling a problem in a game where you have to deal with ping ? Explain yourself. Fyi, on release ESO saw massive praise for its pvp. It's gotten bad over time because the devs don't give a single fuck and don't know what the fuck they are doing, but atm it is in its core the best pvp MMO that you can find.

@@thesunryze4658all you have to do is watch other vidoes like you said eso was praised because it was different not because combat was great those complaints stretch back to game launch either way if you dont know/understand why animation canceling is bad i am not going to waste 1 hour of my time trying to educate when there are already videos online

Star Citizen is going to be done in 2050.

You may want to check out DAOC Eden freeshard. It's the first one I'm aware of, where instead of trying to "roll back the clock to Patch 1.X which was the peak of the game", instead the devs took the bones of the game and are building something quite new from them, with massive QOL updates all around. It's one of the most promising freeshards I've played yet.

amazing story about your wife, love that! Sorry about camelot unchained though, thats rough!

"had he just remade DAoC with a modern, popular engine, he would have succeeded." Exactly The golden egg was right in front of him.

Good question. It's not in firor either for sure. Also the original team was small. If I remember correctly the combat system (at least the melee one) was done by a 18yo rookie

Too ambitious :/

He's a politician, lying for a living.

Yes, I found it odd that he didn't mention once in this video WHY they chose to roll their own engine! Agreed, I made a very similar comment also.

Not really. The architecture used for large scale multiplayer games is a client-server architecture. That means that the "game" is actually two different applications that work together hand in hand to provide the experience. The client application is what you think of as the "game" as a player. It is the app that you download and lives on your PC and leverages your GPU, renders things, etc. The server application is a strange, abstract monstrosity that you would never recognize that lives on a series of blade servers in the depths of a data center. The server is the master controller for the state of the world, and it tells all the clients who is where, who hit and did not, etc. Think of the server as the content server that Netflix uses to stream your movie to your TV. There is an actual server in your region and it is loaded with a ton of video content, and your little Netflix app reaches out and asks it to send stuff and it does. Unreal, like Unity 3D, or most any other major game engine, is built to essentially be the client part of that team. Unreal would make a great game client, and it does for many multiplayer titles. The trick is to build the server, which is going to be custom software, but the upside is that the server doesn't have to render anything, it just needs to calculate physics and state for thousands of players, but then, those are the types of tasks that computers are actually pretty good at. Clear as mud? LOL In short: Unreal would have been fine as an MMO game client.

@@jubalbiggs2989My brain hurts.

@@jubalbiggs2989 If them other engines so goood enuff then why my fps in Guild wars 2 brutally drops when I get in a proximity of a big group of people. Not even having to draw them on the screen as the drop happens much sooner than they get into my vision range. Also it is made the way it only shouws health bars when too crowded so it is definitely not gpu problem.

Midgard forever!

I had thankfully quit by then. Last when I was playing, the crafters had an integral role in your characters gear. Sad to hear they took that away.

Yeah, it is time to call it for Jacobs. DAoC was a fluke and the developers carried it. Everything else he has worked on has basically failed.

​@@eternalvigilance5697as stated in another comment. Which were the developers who carried daoc? Is there a list of the staff who worked at the original daoc and the SI expansion?

@@Gramasz I would have to look around and see if I can find a list somewhere,

Exactly the same situation as you. Honestly Hoped it would work but never received refund after all this time

Then you miss some superb gems like Satisfactory or Dyson Sphere Program.

@@MrGeati6783 If they're truly that great, then they should make it out of alpha/beta stage and get fully released, at which point I'll buy them.

I do buy Early Access games that are already fun in their own right. I don't buy it in the hope that one day it will be good, it has to be good today.

darktide was/is such a massive disappointment in half a year they have only barely started to add half baked features that was promised at launch

I remember this about the same way. I managed to get an Armsman up to max level in a few months, had people in, Cornwall I think it was, even randomly help me get my epic class armor. Walked around feeling like a king. LOL There was no pressure to have the best armor or be the top dog. It wasn't the insane toxic raid mentality WoW is. I play WoW, but I don't really do raids or mythic stuff, PVP a bit but mainly just solo my way around having my own fun, never concerned about the grind that other people are out there doing just so they can be top item level...

Oh, and PVP in the wilds in DAOC was amazing, I would go out there fairly low level and just play, run into opposite factions and they'd most of the time just mess around, no point killing some lowbie 20 levels lower than you are.

Yea I went from última, asherons call Dt , daoc, shadowbane, darkfall, before finally playing wow. Never trusted the UC pitch .

Well said

Somebody always shows up to defend this game even now.

@@thenightingale7405 In which part of my comment was I defending the game?

that and he spent nearly every day for a decade shit posting during company time. but nope even in the kickstarter it says the point of the kickstarter is to attract "angel investors", which are his sister and her film company investors so really he didn't actually need a kickstarter just some market research to convince them. because these investors sure aren't doing their due diligence in the latest funding round.

Too bad physics are a thing. I've missed WAR for so many years, but whenever I've tried RoR the latency is just way too much of a killer to stick with. I wish I had savoured those first 8 months of WAR's release more. You truly don't know what you've got until its gone. =(

yeah same DAoC was my first MMO loved it left for WoW pvp server not the same but fun. I knew better then to invest in CU... but I did fall for Crowfall trash so no one is perfect.

Good to hear. As a fan of Mark’s previous games(DAoC, Warhammer Online), I really hope I get to play a finished version of CU someday.

Honestly he's lost any fan-boys like myself by being dishonest.

yeah the pinned is a classic scam. like an actual bonafide scam far more than can even be said for CU lol. shares in... public domain art works that are privately owned by individuals?

MJ was always the money connection for the actual talent. his own game dev experience is tinkering with existing MUDs to make his own flavour, which became the basis for DAOC's RPG system. the other developers from DAOC have all gone on to continued careers creating games with those design elements that made DAOC famous. while mark spent the past 10 years trolling his customers and mmorpg fans on mmo blogs and forums. even on warhammer he was completely out of touch with what the game actually was at launch and what was in the development pipeline at all whatsoever. which he still blames that on the lead devs that actually got their work done. most of the CU dev streams during this project spend most of the stream talking about how he made DAOC, as in himself alone. man has been delusional about his role in the games he's a part of fueled by his cult of personality fans for more than 20 years now. when things are liked by consumers it's all himself that takes the credit, when the game bombs it's someone else's fault. and how he handles feedback for CU doubles down on that - it's always the feedback givers' fault when they tell him x y or z doesn't work or his excuses for why things aren't progressing don't line up. too bad the gaming press has always joined in on gaslighting of his backers in their awkward displays of hero worship.

Pretty positive it was other people, as I played their early games when they came out. Matt Firor probably did a great deal of it. The fact that MJ did Warhammer and then attempted CU and Firor did TESO, says one thing, but at the same time, nothing so far from any of the big three from old Mythic accounts for the creativity behind their earlier games.

​@@JeremyB8419 Matt Firor and Rob Denton had a significant hand in bringing DAoC to market on the budget we had. (Rob is still listed at Broadsword Entertainment, which still runs DAoC.) From my time at Mythic I'd say that the take in the video is probably right; this is a case of overambition rather than deception.

The George Lucas effect

​​​​​@@frontendchaosohh someone that worked on the original daoc. What role did you have? Do you know other significant names that worked on the original release and SI and toa? And maybe exactly on what they worked in the game? I played some of the firor and Denton games. And I can't see any talent in there. I feel they were more of managers figures than anything(I know Denton was the lead for coding/tech but still not a creative guy) . I think there is some blog in the internet on the work in progress or daoc but that's it. Such a game deserve a book or something. It was made by 25 developers. Absurd. What Colin Hicks and James Casey are up to? Talal saad joined later? How an engineer came up with the stick and face? So many stories. So much legacy

Sadly EA Mythic is still charging money for it. If you haven't already, you're way better off trying Eden Freeshard right now.

Asherons Call, Darkfall, Shadowbane, Ultima Online. All games that will never be matched by modern shit game artists.

Well, they've raised an absolute truck load of money, or did... They also got a cash injection a couple of years ago as well. Imagine going in to the office and spending 7 and half hours drinking coffee and talking crap with no manager to track your kpi's, sounds like they're milking the stress free great work-life balance xD