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8 ай бұрын

Lion King: The Truth About Why The Lionesses Didn't Just Overthrow Scar When Mufasa Died In Lion King
Scar wasn’t even close to being the strongest lion in the Pride Lands, yet he still managed to become the King after killing Mufasa and almost killing his heir and son Simba. Not only was he the King, but the dastardly lion showed that he was capable of ruling with an iron fist without anyone questioning him. But what about all of the lionesses that were a part of the pride? You would think that they would’ve just banded together to overthrow their unjust ruler before they ever let him destroy the Pride Lands, but for some reason, they didn’t. Well, after rewatching the movie along with as many other retellings of The Lion King as possible, the shocking truth behind their obedience is pretty clear.
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@Cody-mg5gh
@Cody-mg5gh 8 ай бұрын
Also, if you add in the lionesses who were loyal to Scar from the second movie, it would've been even harder for Sarabi and her lionesses to rebel against Scar.
@alongcamekarma
@alongcamekarma 8 ай бұрын
This is what I assumed it would be. A combination of hyenas, the ones loyal to scar, and scar himself kept the rest in line.
@ShawnPickettPauley
@ShawnPickettPauley 8 ай бұрын
​@@alongcamekarma 😠 That's silly. Mr. Scar♂️🦁(🦱⚫, 👁🟢)🤍🧡🧡🧡 is the real responsible of Mufasa♂️🦁(🦱🔴, 👁🔵)🤍💛💛💛's death💀
@DementedXShenzi
@DementedXShenzi 8 ай бұрын
The only hole I see is that there were no lionesses fighting against Simba and his friends in Lion King.
@alongcamekarma
@alongcamekarma 8 ай бұрын
@@DementedXShenzi ohhhhh, I actually never thought of that, but that's a really good point.
@DementedXShenzi
@DementedXShenzi 8 ай бұрын
@@alongcamekarma buuut after the battle it's possible some were like "Man, at least when Scar was king we could hunt and eat whenever we wanted. At least now we wouldn't have to share with the hyenas" and rebelled
@wrantheim6777
@wrantheim6777 8 ай бұрын
And the fact, that Scar was their last remaining male probably also played a part. Without him, they couldn't maintain the pride.
@darcybrummett7004
@darcybrummett7004 8 ай бұрын
Where was Nala’s father?
@wrantheim6777
@wrantheim6777 8 ай бұрын
@@darcybrummett7004 It was probably Mufasa.
@orrorsaness5942
@orrorsaness5942 8 ай бұрын
@@darcybrummett7004he was killed by Mufasa?
@jcschroder8477
@jcschroder8477 8 ай бұрын
Last male till simba came back, and kovu and nuke would have been to young
@fangybyte
@fangybyte 7 ай бұрын
​@@orrorsaness5942Mufasa IS Nala's father.
@kevindavis296
@kevindavis296 8 ай бұрын
Their needs to be a theory on how Scar befriended the hyenas and they accepted him as their "pal" as one of them
@elizabethbrown2455
@elizabethbrown2455 8 ай бұрын
There needs to be a movie about scars backstory like they did cruella devil
@kevindavis296
@kevindavis296 8 ай бұрын
@@elizabethbrown2455 no way! The Comicbook is enough
@elizabethbrown2455
@elizabethbrown2455 8 ай бұрын
@@kevindavis296 it would be interesting
@kevindavis296
@kevindavis296 8 ай бұрын
@@elizabethbrown2455 no it wouldn't because Scar would have to be popular Disney villain like Maleficent, Ursula.......
@forrestdupre87
@forrestdupre87 8 ай бұрын
And how he met Zira
@fullmetalgamer6062
@fullmetalgamer6062 8 ай бұрын
Nala: We could just overthrow Scar. Sarabi: What? And ruin the plot?
@kageokami138
@kageokami138 8 ай бұрын
This.
@doggycatalan
@doggycatalan 8 ай бұрын
Lol
@HuginnHufflepuff
@HuginnHufflepuff 7 ай бұрын
I want movie, now!
@CosmicRetriever
@CosmicRetriever 27 күн бұрын
Ahhahaha
@Floweramon
@Floweramon 8 ай бұрын
It's also worth noting that, even with the sentimental attachment, Sarabi did say they have to leave. She phrased it as "we have no choice" but was at the point where she was acknowledging that this wasn't working and they need to do what they have to to survive. It was Scar that said he would rather they all die than leave (basically putting HIS pride over THE pride) For this reason, I think the lionesses might have either left or revolted even if Simba didn't arrive, it's just that Simba arrived at the perfect time to spark the revolt.
@akstarnes5601
@akstarnes5601 8 ай бұрын
"I never realized that a lion monarchy could have such an impact on the weather and environment." -Producer Guy (Ryan George)
@missingbobsburgers
@missingbobsburgers 8 ай бұрын
Potato lightbulb with a Guinea pig judge.
@GAMMAGOMA
@GAMMAGOMA 8 ай бұрын
Fun fact: male lions in real life that have a pride need to maintain a strict balancing act in terms of their dominance. Too forgiving, they get overthrown by a stronger male. Too aggressive, the pride either turns on him or let's him die at the paw of another stronger male.
@goomba8170
@goomba8170 8 ай бұрын
This just isn’t true… How male lions interact with the lionesses in their pride has absolutely no effect on whether or not rogue nomads will attempt to overtake the pride. They hardly even have much interaction with the lionesses anyway outside of eating and mating.
@GAMMAGOMA
@GAMMAGOMA 8 ай бұрын
@goomba8170 I'm referring to what happens when a lion tries to take another male's pride. This is largely because when a new male takes over, the previous male's cubs are killed. At the same time, there are multiple recorded instances of prides turning on overly aggressive males both leading and being born naturally in it.
@seggenghirmay2236
@seggenghirmay2236 7 ай бұрын
​@@GAMMAGOMAohh dark man dark 6:34
@aaronhotchnerzoltfbi8085
@aaronhotchnerzoltfbi8085 7 ай бұрын
💀@@goomba8170
@BG-be8di
@BG-be8di 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking into account the musical and live-action versions of the movie, and as you said, the reason why the lionesses did not leave the Pridelands was because their land, the land of their ancestors is holy, also they couldn't overthrow Scar because by legitimate law he was the king, believing there were no more heirs.. In addition to the large army of hyenas that protected Scar; they needed outside help, and Nala left in search of help because I think that, in addition to being the youngest adult lioness in the pride and could withstand the trip, and was also the one who was more willing to leave her land and then return to save her and her family.. but in the end it does move me how later the Pridelands return to being the beautiful home that Simba and Nala knew and fought to revive, so they are both perfect to be king and queen
@cheyblake2475
@cheyblake2475 8 ай бұрын
For why Nala left the Pride Rock, it has to do with the deleted scene, where Scar tried to mate with her...
@okamijubei
@okamijubei 8 ай бұрын
In other words, Scar is a womanizer?
@kai7526
@kai7526 8 ай бұрын
@@okamijubeiProbably not Scar was probably trying to get an heir to continue his rule over the pride and the other lionesses were either too old or had cubs of their own already
@goomba8170
@goomba8170 8 ай бұрын
@@kai7526In the scene he simply stated that a king needs a queen
@Unknown-qg5zo
@Unknown-qg5zo 8 ай бұрын
​@@goomba8170Which would imply mating.
@mlmf2012
@mlmf2012 7 ай бұрын
To a male lion, every lioness in his pride is his woman, even his daughters
@joshualowe959
@joshualowe959 8 ай бұрын
The only lionesses that would be loyal to Scar at that time were Zira & the soon to be Outsiders
@xxanimeparadisexx2712
@xxanimeparadisexx2712 8 ай бұрын
I like how the hyenas ate scar! I’m glad that it’s actually what they do in irl science and behavior!
@darkzombiequeen4270
@darkzombiequeen4270 8 ай бұрын
One of the theories I've heard was scar used the cubs from the lioness against their parents
@gabriellemeche992
@gabriellemeche992 8 ай бұрын
That makes a lot of sense. According to what's been found out by lions, Scar would have killed all of the cubs to avoid him getting overthrown by the previous liege's children so the lionesses submitting could very well be significant of them protecting their cubs.
@goomba8170
@goomba8170 8 ай бұрын
⁠@@gabriellemeche992Lion King isn’t realistic to life. Pretty much at all. And if it were, Scar being Mufasa’s brother and thus part of his coalition wouldn’t have killed the other lionesses cubs anyway.
@TheAuthor758
@TheAuthor758 8 ай бұрын
​@@goomba8170you are spitting facts random person I do not know
@HeatherNickless-vt8zr
@HeatherNickless-vt8zr 8 ай бұрын
Scar assumed that the Hyenas had done the job of killing Simba; but they never told him that they failed; for a bunch of tough guys they are too afraid to attempt trudging through the thicket of thorns. Pain and Panic from "Hercules" mirrors some of the same mannerisms and stupidity as the animated versions of Shenzi and Banzi in "Hercules".
@Albemarle7
@Albemarle7 8 ай бұрын
They were the clowns of ancient theater tradition.
@Clairski3
@Clairski3 8 ай бұрын
The movie already makes this quite clear: the lionesses were outnumbered by scar's army of hyenas
@FamilyHistoriandude
@FamilyHistoriandude 8 ай бұрын
Lionesses need to have at least one male lion in their pride. In reality, the fact that he killed Mufasa wouldve made Scar the next king.
@okamijubei
@okamijubei 8 ай бұрын
Likely because the hyenas are extremely loyal to Scar as Shenzi's clan pretty much likely act as Scar's personal army. In other words... if the lionesses dare... they'll have to deal with Shenzi's Clan first. As that's too much of a risk for the pride to do so
@wilesnailspower9781
@wilesnailspower9781 7 ай бұрын
Something interesting I noticed about Shenzi is her faith in Scar does seemingly start to waver when she tells Scar there’s no food or water. She realizes her clan is in danger too due to Scar’s incompetence.
@Managable_Mayhem
@Managable_Mayhem 8 ай бұрын
Let's be honest; it's not that deep: He had an army of bonecrushing hyenas around him at all times. There simply was no option to overthrow him. It's really that simple. Sure, him lying and whatnot and pretending to be just there to fill the spot helps stay on their good side, but that ultimately played no role since they didn't know. As long as they still had food, there was no reason to leave or fight. Nothing more, nothing less.
@brianblake1968
@brianblake1968 8 ай бұрын
You mean... besides the fact it's a kids story, with no basis in reality? I'm not sure a Disney movie character needs a psychological analysis...
@abigails4088
@abigails4088 8 ай бұрын
just because it's fictional doesn't mean it can't serve as an example in a psychological analysis, IF THE PIECES MATCH UP... also... "no basis in reality" (apart from the fact that there are multiple examples of monarchies overthrown "from within" like this in human history...) it was literally just a cartoon version of an EXISTING piece of literature...so it was "based in reality" in that very sense. Have you never heard of this really cool guy named William Shakespeare? This is just HAMLET... and the sequel film is just ROMEO AND JULIET (with a happier ending)
@Edward-nf4nc
@Edward-nf4nc 8 ай бұрын
The main reason Scar was not overthrown was there was no other male lion except Nuka and Kovu, who were too young to mate and as Scar did not name Nuka as his heir, he was not a likely choice to replace Scar, who was also of royal blood.
@goomba8170
@goomba8170 8 ай бұрын
Nuka and Kovu weren’t even alive in the first movie. And even if in some alternate universe they were, their mother Zira is loyal to Scar anyway. Scar wasn’t overthrow. because the lionesses knew they wouldn’t even be able to touch him past his army of hyenas.
@Edward-nf4nc
@Edward-nf4nc 8 ай бұрын
In The Lion Guard we are told Zira told Simba he could not become king as Scar had named Kovu as his heir and Zira attacked Simba and Simba banished Zira and her family, and in the Lion King: Simba's Pride, Simba says "I banished you from the Pridelands. You and your young cub" and Zira says "Kovu was the last born before you banished us to the Outlands" and when Kovu asks to join Simba's pride Simba says "no. You were banished with the other Outsiders". This means Nuka and Kovu were alive during the first Lion King movie.
@DinosaurNick
@DinosaurNick 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, they woulda been little baby/young cubs in the least during the fight@@Edward-nf4nc
@fullmetalgamer6062
@fullmetalgamer6062 7 ай бұрын
​@Edward-nf4nc Did Lion Guard show who Kovu's father is? We know in the Lion King 2, it was stated twice that Scar isn't his father.
@DinosaurNick
@DinosaurNick 7 ай бұрын
Nope. It did mention Nala's father though, confirming it was NOT Scar nor Mufasa@@fullmetalgamer6062
@Roon18
@Roon18 8 ай бұрын
I mean Scar did have the numbers (the only reason he was able to hold control) I mean hes not going to walk in by himself to take the throne by normal means,but what is interesting though is that he was able to befriend the hyena whom they just accepted cause they liked his words no doubt (good villain song btw),but in the end they just turn and eat him cause he lost his gripe and power over them it was game over for him. Also i have heard of people who live in hurricane targets,but rebuild every time cause it is their home and they grew up there,no doubt why the lionesses didn't leave. though im just surprised Nala was able to slip by the hyenas. (cause i doubt she was given permission really)
@esmee6308
@esmee6308 8 ай бұрын
Been a while but I'm pretty sure the lionesses were send out to hunt, so Nala was probably on a hunt for as far as the hyenas knew. Even if we consider the deleted scene, Scar may have not acted on the rejection with a show of force, thinking he'd break her eventually.
@JackieOwl94
@JackieOwl94 8 ай бұрын
This was something I thought was weird in the movie until now. In the wild, even standing pride males can be ousted, but more often killed, by the lionesses if they displease him. This happens most often in captivity, but an all-female pride isn’t unheard of when they oust an elderly or displeasing pride male. They can also drive out new males if the pride is displeased with them too, most often in defense of their children.
@goomba8170
@goomba8170 8 ай бұрын
Scar literally had a personal army of hyenas. It’s obvious why the lionesses never tried to fight him until Simba arrived
@michaelbracho3956
@michaelbracho3956 8 ай бұрын
It's also true that if the male doesn't please them sexually, they typically will rebel.
@Ryou_Sensei
@Ryou_Sensei 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, the stuff about the Hyena to Lioness ratio was like, the only thing this needed to be about. Ive seen documentaries about wild animals, and it doesnt matter how sentimental their home is, if it looks like the pride lands during scar's rule, they will leave the place
@falconcorban4128
@falconcorban4128 8 ай бұрын
funny thing about lions, lioness actually prefer black maned males, so maybe that also factored into why they allowed Scar to take over XD.
@infernalone666
@infernalone666 8 ай бұрын
I doubt Disney knew that about lions since they had scar say he was physically inferior to mufasa. Seems their mentality was "good lions light, bad lions dark"
@mystixwolf
@mystixwolf 8 ай бұрын
Whatever happened to Nala's mother? She's seen a couple of times before Nala becomes an adult, but afterward, there are no images of her throughout the movie. Even in some of the key scenes, there are only six adult lions, outside of Nala, instead of seven from initial scenes.
@CadenceWallace
@CadenceWallace 7 ай бұрын
I think it was mentioned she was killed during a hunt or by the hyenas
@ladwigs
@ladwigs 8 ай бұрын
I was thinking, Scar was the only male
@nicklopez3133
@nicklopez3133 8 ай бұрын
Scar needed Simba dead so that way he couldn't take his place when he became an adult. However that is more of a nonstarter. Cause with Simba alive and in the Pridelands Scar wouldn't have been able to lead. Sarabi wouldn't have allowed it. She would've stepped in and became the defacto leader until her son was old enough and ready. As former Queen she not only had the experience but also the loyalty of the lionesses. Scar's loyal lionesses were not yet there, they would come later and from the desert so they aren't a factor here. Scar would try to assert his right to rule but Sarabi would say that as the son Mufasa, Simba was the next to rule and as his mother she was within her right to lead the pride until Simba would be ready. Sarabi would've continued Simba's lessons until the time came for him to take over. Though obviously the lessons would differ abit from what Mufasa would've taught Simba. So Scar couldn't leave Simba alive.
@blistlelo1700
@blistlelo1700 8 ай бұрын
Just like what many people in real life are very determent to stay what they are and don't want any crisis to stop them from living their home since it's often lived there since generations. Such as there are people who really want to move back to Chernobyl because they missed that place or just want to live where their ancestors lived for centuries even though it's just a nuclear wasteland right now.
@spiritofthewolf15x
@spiritofthewolf15x 8 ай бұрын
This makes me want to re-watch The Lion King again, the animated one, the REAL one, the only good one.
@TrueEnergizerBunnies
@TrueEnergizerBunnies 7 ай бұрын
I always figured they didnt overthrow Scar because of the hyenas. Scar brought them into Pride Rock the second after he announced that he was king and you could see the fear in the lioness's eyes. Hyenas are their natural enemies and there were alot of them that they knew they couldn't fight against. So they just had to go with it When Simba came back, they fought probably because of the overwhelming emotions of realizing that they had been lied to all these years and everything that happened in between. Plus they had Simba, Rafiki, Timon, and Pumbaa on their side to help fight too. Plus some of the hyenas may have starved or left since there was no more food or water left. Also the Pride Lands were completely destroyed with everyone starving so they didnt real have any other options. Fight and hopefully win and rebuild their territory or you just lay down and starve to death.
@darcybrummett7004
@darcybrummett7004 8 ай бұрын
1:08 Scar didn’t lie about Simba because he believed the hyenas killed him.
@grubbsthebugbear
@grubbsthebugbear 8 ай бұрын
He was the only adult male left, they needed his babies.
@MasterOfTheElements
@MasterOfTheElements 8 ай бұрын
What I'm curious about is why didn't Zazu tell the lionesses that Scar knocked him out.
@badboyluvr
@badboyluvr 8 ай бұрын
He might not remeber or if he does, he wasn't aware as his back was to Scar, when Scar hit him. Also, Zazu was already in a panicked state right before Scar knocked him out, his mind was literally anywhere but focused.
@feiradragon7915
@feiradragon7915 8 ай бұрын
Not to mention the fact that Zazu was a prisoner in Scar's den. He likely didn't get the chance to say anything to the lionesses even if he recalled that detail.
@BG-be8di
@BG-be8di 8 ай бұрын
I think because at that moment Zazu was in panic because of the danger that Mufasa and Simba were in, so when he regained recognition he thought he hit the rocks due to the shock of the moment and was dazed, and not because Scar knocked him out, also he didn't realize.
@catprog
@catprog 7 ай бұрын
Hypothetical Scar: "If you hadn't flow into the wall you would of been able to get help. It's your fault they are dead" He did it to Simba why would he not do the same to Zazu.
@MasterOfTheElements
@MasterOfTheElements 7 ай бұрын
@@catprog" Do you deny it?" "No sire " "Then you're guilty" 😂😂😂
@iamthecheese2737
@iamthecheese2737 8 ай бұрын
"The lands is barren and void of life just like the land where the hyenas used to live", accurate depiction of "relocating trash from the landfill only creates new landfills".
@DiscoTimelordASD
@DiscoTimelordASD 8 ай бұрын
I think that when the food completely ran out the lionesses would have fled. That's why they sent Nala out to scout for new territory - they were planning on leaving as they knew Scar WOULDN'T leave. The lionesses probably planted the seed of exploration in Nala's head as she'd be the least likely one for Scar to notice missing.
@CosmicPotato740
@CosmicPotato740 8 ай бұрын
Can there be a theory on WHY DID THE OTHER ANIMALS WORSHIP THE BIRTH OF A LION?! I mean…. Lions hunt those animals why would they accept and bow before a ruler that eats them to live..? 😂 At least kimba was more believable because instead of eating he found another way and in his jungle the animals lived in an Eden state.
@PhantomChibi
@PhantomChibi 8 ай бұрын
This is just my own personal theory feel free to correct me if I'm leaving out anything. If we think about the correlation between how Mufasa and Scar ruled, there is a very obvious level of respect and submission to both. I'm sure the herds know and understand that lions are the top of the food chain (and so naturally accepted them as royalty), plus I'm sure they understood what the circle of life is that Mufasa has explained to Simba and just had no choice but to accept it's their fate to be hunted since a lion's primary prey is them. Mufasa however was obviously a very good king who cared about his kingdom and who lives in it, and so the herds have never left and most likely liked him. Simba may have adapted to eating insects most of his life but it's not something a lion can just accept eating as they've always been natural meat eaters and have hunting instincts. Now with Scar, the difference there is everybody was forced to respect him despite him being a awful king that practically left their home very barren and dry and looked practically like a graveyard. And this time, the herds eventually left and I think maybe due to constant hunting or maybe treating them horribly and they grew more fearful of him over time. They also maybe gave up hope since Scar had no heirs so they just decided to leave for a better life. And so in the end, when Scar dies and Simba claimed his rightful place, all the greenery came back and the herds have returned again. I assumed Simba must have found a way to convince them all to come back, perhaps through Zazu since I doubt sending a lioness would be too risky. And it's obvious they managed to accept Simba and Nala as acceptable rulers. I didn't mean for this to be this long but I hope this made sense lol.
@Kopernigus
@Kopernigus 8 ай бұрын
@@PhantomChibi You have not enough likes for such a nice essay
@AnaAcuraErica
@AnaAcuraErica 8 ай бұрын
@@PhantomChibiomg what are you, 10?!?
@AnaAcuraErica
@AnaAcuraErica 8 ай бұрын
The answer is because this is a movie, a Disney movie. All the animals are not friends in the pride land, but they know their place. This is clearly shown in lion king 2, when every group of animal banded together to sing: he is not one of us 🎶 In this movie tho, it’s just my thoughts that all the animals needed to bear witness of the kings cub out of respect(in their world) I also want to believe they needed to know who to look out for at a later time lol
@PhantomChibi
@PhantomChibi 8 ай бұрын
@@AnaAcuraErica I really don't see however old I am has anything to do with what I wrote. I find this sort of thing fun to do and that's what I did.
@levijiles2473
@levijiles2473 8 ай бұрын
The reason why is because a king needs to be there to lead them
@CartoonistDave
@CartoonistDave 8 ай бұрын
bingo! It's allegorical, maybe distasteful nowadays, but that is what the writers intended.
@sephirothcrescent5768
@sephirothcrescent5768 8 ай бұрын
What about the other lionesses cus in the 2nd movie those lionesses were said to be loyal to Scar,were those lionesses part of the pride lands too or a totally different faction,cus they seemed to know Mufas and Sarabi and Simba and Nala?...
@Mark73
@Mark73 8 ай бұрын
But didn't they want to migrate away from the pridelands anyway to find better hunting?
@blujay1982ify
@blujay1982ify 8 ай бұрын
Sarabi wanted to leave, but Scar said we're not going anywhere.
@Mark73
@Mark73 8 ай бұрын
@@blujay1982ify How was he going to stop her? Lionesses do all the hunting. If they left, Scar would starve.
@blujay1982ify
@blujay1982ify 8 ай бұрын
@@Mark73 U don't remember his hyena army? He had them to keep the lionesses in line.
@Third7Plays
@Third7Plays 8 ай бұрын
7:44 I’m wondering if the cub at the end of the first lion king movie was Kopa, the one who maybe did/maybe didn’t die
@beccacroce7380
@beccacroce7380 8 ай бұрын
Or wasn't canon to begin with
@lilchristuten7568
@lilchristuten7568 7 ай бұрын
Uh actually I'm fairly certain they wouldn't have tried to avenge Mufasa and Simba given the fact that Scar was the only male lion in the pride lands. They couldn't revolt against Scar or else their pride would die out. That's why Nala went to find help. She needed to find another male to replace Scar.
@YourFeelingsSucks
@YourFeelingsSucks 7 ай бұрын
The Lion Guard could had expended his backstory even more, but they choose to talk about how he get his scar, and how he was a leader of his lion guard..
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 8 ай бұрын
_Technically..._ Mufasa WAS killed by a random stampede... But it was also Scar's fault so y'know...
@butterflytigress1985
@butterflytigress1985 8 ай бұрын
Let's not forget that in the end the hyenas turned against Scar because they overheard him trying to use them as his scapegoat. He might have been able to rally and come back if he could have kept their loyalty, but once he outed himself, it was game over.
@joebrat6809
@joebrat6809 8 ай бұрын
Exactly, since Scar is a true narcissist, everything he does is only in self serving interest. That usually becomes the downfall of narcissists in general. They are so completely self absorbed that they fail to see things from anyone elses point of view.
@okamijubei
@okamijubei 8 ай бұрын
Of course, Simba is not that gullible and likely knows Scar is lying.
@butterflytigress1985
@butterflytigress1985 8 ай бұрын
@@okamijubei Well yeah because he says "why should I believe you? everything you ever told me was a lie" when Scar tries to blame the hyenas. I'm just saying Scar contributed to his own downfall.
@KrazyStargazer
@KrazyStargazer 8 ай бұрын
Yup. Is Scar accepted his defeat gracefully and left with the hyenas he might have lived. Heck like you mentioned he could have come back stronger. But he couldn't help but try to weezle his way out of the problem. Scar had no respect or prride for anyone not even the hyenas whom he called friends, or himself sence he would stoop to such a blatent lie. The hyenas ultimately ended up ending Scar because he showed so little reguard for them. They were willing to excuse so much of his behavior up till that point but after nearly destroying the PRidelands and starving them and then betraying them they had enough...
@joebrat6809
@joebrat6809 8 ай бұрын
@@KrazyStargazer I agree, Scar was also a true narcissist and knowing such people in general, they always assume that everyone has the exact same goal and mindset as them as they are so incredibly self absorbed, and so, anything they do is solely in self serving interest, as you saw Scar betrayed both sides for his own survival. And just like in real life, this became his downfall.
@riftshredder5438
@riftshredder5438 7 ай бұрын
Or to put it simply, The Lion King was basically an animated retelling of Hamlet
@tylernelson152
@tylernelson152 8 ай бұрын
I always thought it was the 100 hyenas that out numbered the lioness
@kristasmith4639
@kristasmith4639 8 ай бұрын
Krista Smith from Canada saids yes it would have changed.
@theender664
@theender664 8 ай бұрын
So I learned nothing new? Even tho I watched this 14 years ago
@schmalzilla1985
@schmalzilla1985 8 ай бұрын
I think it probably has more to do with how lioness' deal with a new male who either killed or drove off the other male lion, and killed their cubs. They mated. Disney just used a more convoluted and less than natural reason.
@kakonoteouji4876
@kakonoteouji4876 8 ай бұрын
Hey i used to think Lions and Tigers would be pretty equal match but then i actually saw a match between a male lion seemingly bully 4-5 Tigers. Plus thats how lions find a mate would battle other male lions in order to mate.
@magicalhats
@magicalhats 7 ай бұрын
LOL, At the start, I thought you were gonna say something gross but obvious. Scar was the last male lion and the lionesses knew that if they want their species to survive, they all gotta take one for the team.
@robertmichel4063
@robertmichel4063 7 ай бұрын
1:06 Well, Scar didn't _really_ lie about Simba's supposed death, or at least not knowingly, because the hyenas had told him they'd killed Simba. That's why Scar later says, "I'm a little surprised to see you ... alive."
@Croc21000
@Croc21000 8 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if the lionesses could find other lions away from the Pride Lands. If they couldn't,... Scar is the only male...
@juliorodriguez4954
@juliorodriguez4954 8 ай бұрын
I think deep down the former queen knew what really happened. But couldn’t prove it. So they expected the new king. If you notice in the end of the movie. When the queen saw her son is alive. There was fire in her eyes, even when the new king told her that lie about happened. There reason that she and her pride would have find the truth. Made her son the true king, because I believe she loved her son and know that he wouldn’t have done such horrible thing. If you see the original lion king, you know what I’m talking about. The love she gives to the king and son is there. Is very short, but you really have to see that part. No matter what happened the queen will always stand by her son.
@rayf6126
@rayf6126 8 ай бұрын
Only the lioness hunts, so if they take a while to hunt they could weaken Scar over time, maybe waiting for a male cub to grow up even if it was Scar's child.
@brettsoyars4341
@brettsoyars4341 4 ай бұрын
I think if Scar didn't have the Hyena's to back him up, then I believe Nala could take him. I mean if she can whip Simba which I've seen whether she's playing or fighting, I think Nala could beat Scar too.
@JohnSmith-zw8vp
@JohnSmith-zw8vp 8 ай бұрын
Most any question that has the word "just" like this one there is probably a good reason why it would not have been reasonably feasible. If that make sense.
@xavierbailey7183
@xavierbailey7183 8 ай бұрын
Mufausa lost scar so the loiness switch loyalty because scar won against mufasusa
@MrWhatdafuBOOM
@MrWhatdafuBOOM 7 ай бұрын
One word: HYENAS. The lionesses tried to avoid a bloodboth by saying low and keeping as many of their own alive.
@ScpDrRisha
@ScpDrRisha 8 ай бұрын
"The reason why the lionesses didn't overthrow Scar when Mufasa died" *Goes on an explanation* The Truth:PLOT
@ninademci1500
@ninademci1500 8 ай бұрын
I love how the hyenas got their revenge for ‘Scar’s’ lies, false promises, and trickery.
@audujoel1736
@audujoel1736 7 ай бұрын
Scar granted Simba his wish. "Oh I just can't wait to be king". Okay I'll take out your dad cos it seems when you will be ready, it will take time so you will have to wait for toooooo long.
@MODGAMINYT
@MODGAMINYT 7 ай бұрын
Actually it's pretty simple right from the start. Mufasa was King, Scar being his brother was next in line should something happen to Mufasa but Mufasa gave birth to a son meaning they were the prince which made scar quite bitter and angry as he would have some youngster ruling over him instead of being King himself. This much was clear to me even as a small child. If I remember correctly scar even mentions something about that in his tidbit with Mufasa when Mufasa squares up to Scar asking if it's a challenge when Zazu says "you should of been first in line" and Scar simple replies "I was first in line before the little hairball was born"
@Steven9567
@Steven9567 7 ай бұрын
they were? you mean he
@MODGAMINYT
@MODGAMINYT 7 ай бұрын
Does it really matter? my grammar doesn't need to be perfect and I was adressing them in past tense so they still applies, when mufasa died and simba dissapeared they were the prince as far as scar was concerned as he thought he was dead xD@@Steven9567
@grey-spark
@grey-spark 8 ай бұрын
The cut "Be Prepared Reprise" addresses this directly, and I wish they kept it in.
@sammylane21
@sammylane21 8 ай бұрын
There are too many parallels between TLK and BLACK PANTHER, huh?
@meiru2453
@meiru2453 7 ай бұрын
It was cut out from the movie but Nala was exiled by Scar for rejecting his proposal.
@peaksmvp-7907
@peaksmvp-7907 3 ай бұрын
I just wanna ❤ur videos
@josecabanas6293
@josecabanas6293 8 ай бұрын
Anybody who paid attention to the movie, me even as a child, I knew Scar was a manipulator and a tyrant and used his army of Haynes to take and hold power not to mention he was next in line to the throne with Simba gone, also The Lion king is Hamlet no need to look too deep in the narrative about a musical with talking lions =:P
@tlst94
@tlst94 3 ай бұрын
What if in an alternate timeline, The Lion King was written differently? That Mufasa's pride had founded the Pride Lands and Simba became the land's first king? Imagine how it'd be like for the protagonist to be the first to accomplish something new?
@peaksmvp-7907
@peaksmvp-7907 3 ай бұрын
I❤ur videos
@DeluxeDisney
@DeluxeDisney 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Much love ❤️
@AroAceFroggie
@AroAceFroggie 8 ай бұрын
if lionesses were realistic scar would of been made king anyway since a darker mane means a healthier and stronger meaning they would of chased Mufasa out or not make him king
@joshm3484
@joshm3484 8 ай бұрын
Do the one where he killed all the cubs in the pride so he could mate with their mothers.
@user-ox6qg6zm6b
@user-ox6qg6zm6b 7 ай бұрын
Lion King is based off of Hamlet. Simba was based off of Hamlet. Hamlet’s mother, after the father’s death, married the Hamlet version of Scar.
@samerbayoumi6378
@samerbayoumi6378 6 ай бұрын
i gotta say. Scar is also the only other male..... Clearly they don't leave pride rock because there is still food there and there doesn't seem to be another pride of lions near by so going out to search for another pride of lions with a different male was risky if they cant find food. SO they had no choice but to have scar as the king. Another thing to think about is Simba and Nala are half brother and sister.. As Mufasa as king would have mated with all the females... I know there is some other gang of female lions near by in the other lion king movies but no Other adult male EXCEPT for scar son that he for some reason mated with a lioness in that pride of female only lions and not with his new one when simba was growing. Anyways i just think your theory for the birth right king thing is bogus
@jajem1
@jajem1 2 ай бұрын
😂
@jajem1
@jajem1 2 ай бұрын
Okay
@jajem1
@jajem1 2 ай бұрын
How did scar get the scar on his face right on the top and bottom of his eye
@natomiltary4573
@natomiltary4573 8 ай бұрын
I want a movie of kid scar befriending hyenas and fighting with his brother for leadership, also add in when he got the scar.
@ragingraichu219
@ragingraichu219 8 ай бұрын
Good video, but that was a bit long-winded, lol.
@nemonomen3340
@nemonomen3340 7 ай бұрын
So you’re saying the lionesses held back because they didn’t know Scar killed Mufasa? I knew this when I was 6.
@fearenhyde8943
@fearenhyde8943 7 ай бұрын
He was the last male lion. If they didn't tollorate him, the pride would die.
@ChristopherProut-id4ez
@ChristopherProut-id4ez 7 ай бұрын
I still wonder to this day: How did the lionesses beat back Scar's hyena army in the first place? Think about it. When the uprising hapened, they only had a handful of lioness, Rafiki, Timon and Pumba, and Simba. Even without Scar, the hyenas still had overwhelming numbers on their side, and it only took a few of them to take down one adult male lion. It just never made sense to me, even as a kid. Plot is an illogical thing.
@amyb.6368
@amyb.6368 7 ай бұрын
Well, in the VERY end, the hyenas turned on Scar. If they hadn't done that, maybe they would have won.
@killjoy197
@killjoy197 8 ай бұрын
As Pitch Meeting often says "So the movie can happen." Most movies and stories wouldn't happen if the characters had common sense or reacted the way normal people would.
@Mike1064ab
@Mike1064ab 7 ай бұрын
That kind of sentimentality for their pride land is dangerous. If where you live becomes unsafe for your family then you need to do what’s best for them and move someplace else. It’s not worth staying there and being stuck under scar. Your pride is your family not some single location.
@animfangirlkag22
@animfangirlkag22 8 ай бұрын
At the very end the cub held up is Kopa and that's the only time you see him
@vanithaahrelis8631
@vanithaahrelis8631 8 ай бұрын
The army of Hyenas probably helped keep him in power since they listen to him.
@bertabound8093
@bertabound8093 6 ай бұрын
This is shocking to people... 30 years after the movie was released?
@HeatherNickless-vt8zr
@HeatherNickless-vt8zr 8 ай бұрын
If Kiara and Kion were humans; the older sibling heir standing to rule Rule would make sense; but because they are lions; Kion should've been groomed to rule instead of Kiara; I wonder why they write the cubs as though they are on the human heir rule?
@coralmaynard4876
@coralmaynard4876 8 ай бұрын
The second born is destined to be the Leader of the Lion Guard. Simba would have had no choice.
@HeatherNickless-vt8zr
@HeatherNickless-vt8zr 8 ай бұрын
@@coralmaynard4876; My question is not about who is destined to do what. My question is why they wrote the characters as if the lions are human? You see, if the Lion Guard thing was a real thing for lions; Kiara should be head of the lion guard with Kion being King regardless of birth order. Just like the video said, it is the male lion that is always the head of the pride whether or not if he is the older sibling or the younger sibling of one of the lionesses also in real life sometimes if there are two male lion brothers; they would be sharing the pride together, it might not be the case with all males but that happens, at least they wouldn't be in as much of a deadly dispute between each other like Scar and Mufasa with Mufasa being on the receiving end of the fight.
@coralmaynard4876
@coralmaynard4876 8 ай бұрын
@@HeatherNickless-vt8zr Ok, so Kion is born, Simba decides to raise him to be the king... that doesn't change the fact that lore-wise, he's still the one who'll have the roar of the elders. Kion just coincidentally being male doesn't mean Kiara will automatically get the roar, canonically it's always the second born.
@goomba8170
@goomba8170 8 ай бұрын
As they are lions, they don’t have a monarchy in the first place and the entire notion of a royal family ie BS. Newsflash in the wild lions are not groomed to rule anything. Why are you acting as if that would be any more realistic?
@goomba8170
@goomba8170 8 ай бұрын
@@HeatherNickless-vt8zrIn the wild male lions are not kings and are not given place in their birth prides. They are chased out and left to fend for themselves until they can grow strong enough to find and take over a pride of their own. Lions are also actually matriarchal, with the core pride of lionesses being led by an older and more dominant lioness. The pride males are then dominant to all the lionesses, but they do not have a leader role. That is a misconception. They have the role of protector, keeping the pride secure from outside threats.
@nuaru100
@nuaru100 7 ай бұрын
The lionesses were able to fight back the larger number of hyenas only after Scar was overheard by Shenzi, Banzai, and Ed betraying them. I would imagine that the rest of them got wind, and whatever remaining hyenas were left were pretty easy to knock off or frighten away.
@heatherpark5673
@heatherpark5673 8 ай бұрын
Did anyone else notice that they changed Scar’s paw-pads throughout the movie?
@zaktilton1680
@zaktilton1680 7 ай бұрын
Lions and Hyenas are also relentlessly enemies
@dustinherk8124
@dustinherk8124 7 ай бұрын
sounds way to convoluted, than the fact that Scar was the only male of age of reproduction, in the Pridelands...
@Sjono
@Sjono 7 ай бұрын
So….who is Nala’s dad? I only see two adult male lions at at the beginning so that can only mean two things…
@TazarZero
@TazarZero 7 ай бұрын
You said it yourself, the movie would've been MUCH shorter if Sarabi and lionesses challenged Scar.
@Dead_Goat
@Dead_Goat 7 ай бұрын
Not really. Scar would have put them in their place FAST. While scar was weaker he was still a VERY strong lion. A lioness has no shot.
@lethellsing
@lethellsing 8 ай бұрын
So none of the lionesses were curious about where Scar and Simba were going then witnessed what happened that day after following them.
@alisonodonnell395
@alisonodonnell395 7 ай бұрын
Nala did leave after scar tried to do stuff to her and she clawed his face slapping him away it's actually a deleted scene we only see Nala get to the jungle in the movie
@TheZamaron
@TheZamaron 8 ай бұрын
I think the reason they also fought back was because Simba was there, so new king to take over.
@kazemizu
@kazemizu 8 ай бұрын
The lionesses probably didn't have any other lions in the pride to mate with and create more lions to lead...
@user-lj5fu5tp5k
@user-lj5fu5tp5k 4 ай бұрын
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@inferiorinferno8859
@inferiorinferno8859 7 ай бұрын
Of course the Lion King has a hereditary monarchy- its based off of Hamlet!
@SupremeWorthy
@SupremeWorthy 7 ай бұрын
Logically wouldn’t nala have to have been Simbas sister?
@G.M.C2005
@G.M.C2005 8 ай бұрын
Also if you take in lion king theory’s then it be against the law for them to rebel against scar in any way if he was there king
@Splashstar216
@Splashstar216 8 ай бұрын
They obeyed him bc in nature its how things work. Once the leader of a pride dies, lionesses follow new leader unquestioning. Props to Disney for sticking with it.
@ratiroo1124
@ratiroo1124 7 ай бұрын
There was a LOT of merry-go-round word choice in here. Not to say the video wasn't interesting because it was. There was just a lot of similarity and repetition throughout. It didn't need to be this long.
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