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The Shocking Truth about Christian Orthodoxy - John Behr

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Augustine College

Augustine College

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Fr. John Behr takes on those who dismiss Jesus Christ on "historical grounds," by explaining how historicism itself is problematic and, indeed, heretical. The alternative to historicism as our mode of interpretation, he explains, is Christ on the cross as the foundation of all our knowledge and interpretation.
The Very Rev. Dr. John Behr is the Dean of St. Vladimir's Seminary in Crestwood, N.Y., where he is also Professor of Patristics, teaching courses in patristics, dogmatics, and Scriptural exegesis. He also teaches at Fordham University, where he is the Distinguished Lecturer in Patristics.
This lecture was delivered as part of the annual Augustine College Weston Lecture series on March 23rd, 2012.
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@yarnellmcgee2335
@yarnellmcgee2335 8 жыл бұрын
I was raised and baptized at 12 years old in the Church of Christ. I had heard about the Orthodox Church, but it was not till last December 2015, when I saw an documentary about Jerusalem, that I heard a statement which struck me hard. The Orthodox Church was said the be the church that Christ established. I pondered as how could this be when the Church of Christ was said to be the first church. Nonetheless, lead by the Holy Spirit, I researched my history and compared to discover that while I received a strong foundation from the Church of Christ, that foundation came from the Orthodox faith. With that said, I found an Orthodox Church and now converting to the faith.
@sunnyapartmentroom2038
@sunnyapartmentroom2038 8 жыл бұрын
God bless you
@giuseppelogiurato5718
@giuseppelogiurato5718 8 жыл бұрын
Bless you; you are an inspiration, and you are beautiful, body and soul... I have the same feeling that Orthodoxy is indeed "correct worship". I sincerely hope to join you in worship someday, God willing.
@giuseppelogiurato5718
@giuseppelogiurato5718 8 жыл бұрын
Having glanced at your channel, I'm curious; what does "arcturian" mean? (I could "Google" it, but I'd rather read a first-hand definition from a real person, does that make sense?)
@cedonullidude
@cedonullidude 8 жыл бұрын
Blessings to you Yarnell.
@yarnellmcgee2335
@yarnellmcgee2335 8 жыл бұрын
+cedonullidude To you as well
@john.f8726
@john.f8726 5 жыл бұрын
Converted to Orthodoxy from Reformed Protestantism in 2014. We found the True Faith!
@orthoglobus
@orthoglobus 5 жыл бұрын
Glory to God!
@samuelscalzo6731
@samuelscalzo6731 5 жыл бұрын
i want to be an orthodox too
@Alex462047
@Alex462047 5 жыл бұрын
I also converted from Reformed Baptist to Russian Orthodoxy in 2004. There was and is no other way. May God save you, brother.
@McIntyreBible
@McIntyreBible 5 жыл бұрын
That was me also. I had to finally purge my thinking (in 2010) of nearly everything the was associated with Reformed/Protestant doctrine, because it was drenched in Age of Enlightement/Age of Reason theology. I have no regrets!!!
@TheRealRealOK
@TheRealRealOK 5 жыл бұрын
Roger McIntyre Exactly.
@eldruidacosmico
@eldruidacosmico 3 жыл бұрын
I converted to Orthodoxy in 2019, at first it seemed foreing, but then, paradoxicaly. I realized I had come back home. All Glory to Jesus Christ!
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 Жыл бұрын
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )
@blueheron4498
@blueheron4498 5 ай бұрын
Jesus wasn't a vegetarian he was Jewish so he would eat the passover lamb luke 22:7-8.
@johnflorio3052
@johnflorio3052 2 жыл бұрын
I’m Catholic and I love my Orthodox brothers and sisters!
@seizethemovement9288
@seizethemovement9288 7 жыл бұрын
appreciate this, from an indian orthodox.
@shamir137
@shamir137 7 жыл бұрын
I saw father John today for real in Durham, England, he radiates a lot of grace. God bless him.
@stevensonrf
@stevensonrf 9 жыл бұрын
Wonderful and powerful Orthodox Christian teaching here! A great video to watch during Holy Week.
@thedarklord4870
@thedarklord4870 5 жыл бұрын
*two weeks before the Holy week:)
@dougoudvincent
@dougoudvincent 4 жыл бұрын
Unless you experience it and LIVE it, you can't understand why the orthodox Church is simply the Church, the only one. God is an experience, not a theory.
@markschmitz5038
@markschmitz5038 4 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@juliana-ex5dk
@juliana-ex5dk 2 жыл бұрын
so so true, christianity is experiential as orthodox church understands it; is the passed on experiences/practices of the apostles, and it is a way of thinking, an attiitude, a perspective. It has a specific phronema.
@mariannehuston3814
@mariannehuston3814 2 жыл бұрын
@@SignalsOfVirtueEphesians 2:9 ***not of works, lest anyone should boast**** 1John 1:8 ***if we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.vs 10 If we say that we have not sinnned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us***
@goldilocks913
@goldilocks913 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I discovered orthodoxy whilst doing a course on the parallels and differences between it and Buddhism. The same wish to give real love and the desire to overcome hate - within our hearts and in the world- are present in both. Orthodox belief shows me how to be me in Christ and how to allow Christ to be Christ in me . 🙏
@margaret2742
@margaret2742 9 жыл бұрын
Wonderful summation. Not until Christ announced on the cross "It is finished" did God finish Man. Christ is what it means to be human.
@danielgaley9676
@danielgaley9676 5 ай бұрын
I am very interested in the Orthodox Church. My wife, not so much. Prayers are welcomed. Thank you all.
@randychurchill201
@randychurchill201 10 жыл бұрын
Wonderful Lecture. We need to hear more of this kind of Christian Scholarship.
@tomgreene8480
@tomgreene8480 9 жыл бұрын
+Randy Churchill We do indeed ....
@randychurchill201
@randychurchill201 8 жыл бұрын
Actually if you have been a Protestant all your life everything about Orthodoxy is shocking. I was a Protestant all my life and I started reading books on the Orthodox faith and within a year I found myself converting more and more to the east. Most Protestants don't have a high enough level of curiosity to make the transition. It is not easy to make the journey to the Orthodox Church largely because Orthodox Christians are not that good at communicating their faith to the west. I think that is improving though. I see more and more on the Internet. The first time you go to an Orthodox Church it's like going to the planet Mars. As you begin to understand what the worship is all about you begin to experience the spiritual power and meaning of it. I am no longer a Protestant. But to say that with conviction will take some time and study. If your still trying to figure it out keep digging. It's worth the effort.. .
@argirisargi1221
@argirisargi1221 7 жыл бұрын
Randy Churchill Orthodoxy is difficult for the people to take a taste because today's people like the taste of coka cola of porn, quick cars ,different women, and generally of living at this life.When jesus want from us the sacrifice for him and the others,and to stop living for the material world.Ortodoxy teaches to give your blood in order to gain spirit
@randychurchill201
@randychurchill201 7 жыл бұрын
Argiris Milonas I understand.
@RamonaRayTodosSantosBCS
@RamonaRayTodosSantosBCS 9 жыл бұрын
divine inspiration still exists, not all is written, listen to the inner voice of God. The light of Jesus Christ only begotten son of God is within us all. Let is shine through humility and love of each other.
@Sopranohooper
@Sopranohooper 9 жыл бұрын
***** God is love. See with the heart, and do with the mind, and you will be doing God's work.
@Sopranohooper
@Sopranohooper 9 жыл бұрын
yes.
@mircea293
@mircea293 9 жыл бұрын
+Evgnevius We must give up our own pride, we must deny ourselves, in order to let GOD clean up our hearts of all the passions which are the roots of death !!!
@RamonaRayTodosSantosBCS
@RamonaRayTodosSantosBCS 8 жыл бұрын
your absolutely correct amigo! Read the scriptures they are our map!
@timothymartin9085
@timothymartin9085 8 жыл бұрын
+Evgnevius One could fairly say that their conscience, if they live a holy life, becomes the method of God's communication. I agree with you, but I do believe there can be hints of revelation through that.
@makemedance11
@makemedance11 9 жыл бұрын
John Behr absolutely is a good historian. No use bashing a real scholar.
@MihailGeorgeNeamtu
@MihailGeorgeNeamtu 6 жыл бұрын
I have met Fr John around 2002. He is a truly extraordinary scholar and a very gentle man.
@randyw.8781
@randyw.8781 5 жыл бұрын
We know Jesus lives and we belong to the family of God by the Spirit of Christ in us. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, "neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand".
@seekingtruth5637
@seekingtruth5637 Жыл бұрын
Just left the Catholic Church now joining the Orthodox church
@bronzerose3847
@bronzerose3847 7 жыл бұрын
very true my god be with you all orthodox God bless you ⛪💒
@dlwatib
@dlwatib 9 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most insightful talks I've ever heard. Completely in accord with Catholic theology by the way. The first half of the talk is absolutely devastating to Sola Scriptura. The second half discusses how John calling Jesus the Logos of God means that Jesus is the very *definition* of what it means to be divine. It also makes clear that our purpose in being on earth is to learn to be a fully divinized human through obedient self-sacrifice. Scripture concurs. Heb 5:8 says of Jesus "And whereas indeed he was the Son of God, he *learned obedience* by the things which he suffered." (DRV) If Jesus needed to learn obedience, then how much more do we need to learn the same lesson?
@ytmember1
@ytmember1 5 жыл бұрын
"Orthodox" isn't for those that want a personal relationship with Jesus. It's more for those that like rituals to make them feel religious. And way too Catholic... most of their doctrines are false and so many contradict the Bible.
@goranvuksa1220
@goranvuksa1220 5 жыл бұрын
@@ytmember1 ""Orthodox" isn't for those that want a personal relationship with Jesus. ...." Where did you get this from, this could not be further from the truth???
@goranvuksa1220
@goranvuksa1220 3 жыл бұрын
@@SignalsOfVirtue so you dont know anything about it...
@goranvuksa1220
@goranvuksa1220 3 жыл бұрын
@@SignalsOfVirtue no you are stating what you think is obvious, but could not be further from reality.
@goranvuksa1220
@goranvuksa1220 3 жыл бұрын
@@SignalsOfVirtue well yes, I agree that facts dont care about emotions, but facts are that not a sigle Orthodox or any person that knows most basic things about Orthodoxy would agree with you.
@Paulkazey1
@Paulkazey1 11 жыл бұрын
The man is highly intelligent and very highly qualified. He is a man worth listening too.
@williambenton5784
@williambenton5784 9 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant man, and a great theologian!
@waylandporter1766
@waylandporter1766 9 жыл бұрын
Will Benton The world is stupid because King James with the story of Jesus hid philosophy and what is philosophy but knowing our culture...No one died and saved us from the perversions of our culture CAPITALISM
@georgefisher4069
@georgefisher4069 7 жыл бұрын
re-examine that Rx (prescription) friend... u r either way above or well below the recommended dose.
@amelierenoncule
@amelierenoncule 10 жыл бұрын
Mon Dieu, Il est Magnifique!...Illuminé!
@M-i-k-a-e-l
@M-i-k-a-e-l 3 жыл бұрын
Marry me!
@amelierenoncule
@amelierenoncule 3 жыл бұрын
@@M-i-k-a-e-l If you be driven by thoughts of romance, make haste to recognize THAT what might please you, would not my Lover Henri (Husband), two children & God... who own my love and affection, as I do theirs. And think of the others. All those who wait in line for my hand. Imagine the bitchin' & consternation, spittin' & stompin' that would issue !? Gosh Darn Man ! They might even start-up cussin' ! i.imgur.com/rgu4D0X.png
@QuixEnd
@QuixEnd 4 ай бұрын
The amount of trouble i got in for asking these questions, only to be seeing teachers treat them so seriously is WILD
@sshields2173
@sshields2173 7 жыл бұрын
fantastic love this. Would love to become orthodox
@williamgill_esq.6487
@williamgill_esq.6487 6 жыл бұрын
Simon Shields Why not become a Christian by receiving Christ?
@vladimirstephenjackson7943
@vladimirstephenjackson7943 6 жыл бұрын
Simon Shields The find your nearest Orthodox Church and come. All are welcome.
@eighty_more_or_less
@eighty_more_or_less 5 жыл бұрын
what do you suppose Holy Baptism is?
@starcityoldy
@starcityoldy 4 жыл бұрын
William Gill_Esq. Because Jesus left one church. And to feel the full grace of God that can only happen through Orthodoxy.
@someguy9571
@someguy9571 4 жыл бұрын
@@williamgill_esq.6487 Christ established a Church. When He becomes Orthodox, he recieves Christ as a member of His Body.
@bassilredman9430
@bassilredman9430 9 жыл бұрын
Remarkable talk. Some beautiful insights I had not heard before. Pity the audio wasn't the best... Thanks.
@rev.j.rogerallen9328
@rev.j.rogerallen9328 7 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful lecture. Thank you for posting this.
@georgefisher4069
@georgefisher4069 7 жыл бұрын
if you want to reach the lost, must you dress like you yourself are?
@michaelhooper7587
@michaelhooper7587 4 жыл бұрын
This is revelatory! Several salient points that make excellent connections and conclusions that expound the foundational truths of Christianity. This is worthy of seminary quality. Thank you!
@patrickbarnes9874
@patrickbarnes9874 Жыл бұрын
Considering the quality of seminary education these days, I would hope it is considerably better than seminary quality.
@PaxMundi118
@PaxMundi118 2 жыл бұрын
I am Roman Catholic of Russian descent. I fully enjoyed this lecture!
@randyw.8781
@randyw.8781 5 жыл бұрын
The real Jesus, "before Abraham was born I AM" And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. I have believed and prayed to Jesus a far back as my memory goes. My access to Christ wasn't by understanding theology but by the faith of a child. Jesus answered back.
@juliana-ex5dk
@juliana-ex5dk 2 жыл бұрын
hurray!!! so beautiful for your share
@shawngoldman3762
@shawngoldman3762 2 жыл бұрын
"What made the Church catholic was that it embraced diversity." A statement for the ages.
@Eduforall_
@Eduforall_ 4 жыл бұрын
I will give you a fact that will move you. Did you know that the holly lights in the tomb of Christ ONLY appears to the Christian Orthodox? that says everything.
@gigig2492
@gigig2492 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these videos! I'm a new inquirer into EO from Catholic SSPX.
@juliana-ex5dk
@juliana-ex5dk 2 жыл бұрын
read the saints and the church Fathers; they will show you with their lives what it means to be orthodox christian. the orthodox church is about the way of being.we are to acquire the mind of christ so we can be in a love relationship with God the father, son and holy spirit, as we were created to be, until humans decided they wanted to be in charge and be the powerful ones, became prideful.
@ryrocks9487
@ryrocks9487 Жыл бұрын
Western Rite is an option!
@tinaine1
@tinaine1 10 жыл бұрын
I pray constantly for Christian unity. That´s what our Lord wanted when he prayed "that they all be ONE." It´s the only way the world will believe. I think the Orthodox churches and the Roman Catholic church should lead the way.
@yome7580
@yome7580 8 жыл бұрын
only one true original christianity that is orthodoxy
@CoxJoxSox
@CoxJoxSox 6 жыл бұрын
Sadly people celebrate Luther and the reformation - the result which was over 12,000,000 deaths due to religious wars and now there are over 41,000 protestant denominations today. So sad
@larrytidwell5955
@larrytidwell5955 6 жыл бұрын
Christian unity can be achieved if we love one another in Christ in spite of our differences. We all agree on 90% of the doctrines anyway. I see myself as a Believer first, a Baptist second and Ecumenical third. If we all put the point of being a Believer first the secondary division can be overlooked. Jesus said that where two or three are gathered together in my name there am I in their midst. Also, when the disciples rebuked a man for teaching in Jesus' name because he was not a member of their group Jesus replied that those who are not against us are for us and to let the man continue to teach in his name.
@loksterization
@loksterization 6 жыл бұрын
NIck Doe, how can you say that. Luther's movement was from God, and he led true believers out of the great harlot, which is the Catholic Church. It was the Catholic Church that murdered all those saints... millions of them. I fear you have learned propaganda. Also, Jesus said he has come to bring division, not unity.
@loksterization
@loksterization 6 жыл бұрын
Nakis Peninta -- "correct faith" as in correct doctrine is not going to save you, or anyone. This is a deception. Only a personal relationship with Jesus Christ can save you... wash away your sins!
@demitrisvar9068
@demitrisvar9068 7 жыл бұрын
Welcome Yarnell McGee my sister in Christ! With conversion, there is a great responsibility that comes with it. Remember it is a way of life, Holy Apocalypse and not a religion (man made). It is the Church of many martyrs. God bless!
@yarnellmcgee2335
@yarnellmcgee2335 7 ай бұрын
Yes, my brother in Christ, so very true. Our lives are full of much suffering as we resist the passions to perfect ourselves worthy enough to earn the crown of eternal life and enter the Kingdom of God! I read daily, "The Lives of the Saints", which gives me strength and encouragement through my struggles. God Bless.
@jimhangis1685
@jimhangis1685 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you! If Mr. Sudarevic, is truly Orthodox . . . he/we should tell all we know about our faith, and have all join us. In the true faith of Jesus Christ.
@XfaladroxX
@XfaladroxX 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to see that the comment section isn't full of people hating on religion. God bless you all.
@IVSTINIANUSxI
@IVSTINIANUSxI 11 жыл бұрын
Aaahhh...I see now. It seems my interpretation "historicism" was off basis, I apologize. Thank You for clearing that up, as Well as posting this very commending video! Praise Augustine College!
@carrisglen123
@carrisglen123 10 жыл бұрын
Give us the truth of the gospel and we can have all the unity you want but without that you can't have any unity. You must be converted. you must repent. you must be born again
@dlwatib
@dlwatib 9 жыл бұрын
sammy strain What makes you think Dr. Behr isn't?
@notaras1985
@notaras1985 9 жыл бұрын
***** i cant even fathom how many people went to hell due to the perverse protestant insta-saved teachings. without trying to come to the likeness of God. sure if they were pure and ignorant, the punishment would be lighter but still its deadly. evagelicalism is one of the most dead and dangerous christian teachings ive seen.
@patrickbarnes9874
@patrickbarnes9874 Жыл бұрын
This claim by the Father that catholicism is toleration and diversity and heresy is intolerance is absolutely bizarre. It's just declaring black is white and white is black. He then has the nerve to marvel at how so many people think white is white and black is black. This guy is introduced as the greatest Orthodox theologian in the western hemisphere, and then he just gives us secular progressivism. This is what we get from the leftists who insist that men can be women and women can be men, that everyone will be better off if we raise taxes, that humans are hairless apes, and other such nonsense while they ridicule people of faith who hold to self evident reality. The church councils would decide between two sides of an issue, and then declare whoever believed in the other side was condemned. It's beyond twisted to try to claim that they were the tolerant ones and the people they were excommunicating where the intolerant ones. I'm deeply disappointed to hear this trash coming from someone described as a brilliant theologian. This is nothing but secular progressive style gaslighting being shoved on the faithful. And it's not that I misunderstand him - I get what he's trying to convince us of - that Marcian, in not accepting the consensus of the church, was the one attempting to impose his minority view on the majority, but the view is upside down. It's victim blaming. You can say the rape victim invited being raped by their behavior or dress and that is a logically understandable position while at the same time being wrong and morally reprehensible. That is clearly what is going on here - demonizing people who think for themselves as responsible for the intolerance and persecution that results from them voicing their opinions. Saying Marcian is to blame for separating himself from the church is just ignoring the fact that he separated himself because staying would have required him to stop thinking for himself. Father Behr tries to portray it as the church politely listening to him and then him leaving out of intransigence, which is like blaming someone who was assaulted for being in the position of being assaulted. Marcian left because he was told to change his thoughts, not because he refused to accept others disagreeing with him.
@ngahu2iae
@ngahu2iae 11 жыл бұрын
[cont 1] listen to reason, refuse to reject heresy, and go on to spread said heresy, should and must be excluded, for the good of all, themselves included. They are not excluded out of hatred, but love. We seek to prevent them from leading others astray - which constitutes a grave sin. We also seek to ensure the Truth remains amongst us - not because we see the Truth as fragile, but because we may fall away from it. [cont 2]
@NGAOPC
@NGAOPC 6 жыл бұрын
I was really liking this piece until I read the comments; this is not an apologetics video for Eastern Orthodoxy. It's not. He begins, and throughout, makes reference to Kostenberger and Kruger's "Heresy of Orthodoxy" for a reason, and it's not simply because of a provocative title. What he says, the Patristic sources, the Church Councils he appeals to, are in no way exclusive or particular to Eastern Orthodoxy - nor *excluded by*, say, the two dozen Catholic Churches and many-thousand-odd Protestant denominations - it's common to Classical Christianity, and even most Protestant denominations (of which the authors of the book are members). I'm confident the authors would appreciate this piece, and not think themselves less Christian for not being Eastern Orthodox or Catholic (whether they should or not).
@GraduadoFigo
@GraduadoFigo 10 жыл бұрын
@9:27"its a fact that our only access to Christ is through interpretation". I'm perplexed. How about living experience of Christ?
@theman77777777232
@theman77777777232 10 жыл бұрын
You are able to have a living experience through Christ because someone translated the Greek into English for you and interpreted its context. What is it that you fail to understand about this?!?!?!
@GraduadoFigo
@GraduadoFigo 10 жыл бұрын
Greek is my first language. Are you suggesting that if noone had interpreted the writtings of the Apostoles then noone would have experienced his presence?
@theman77777777232
@theman77777777232 10 жыл бұрын
GraduadoFigo No, I am saying that it is impossible for MOST PEOPLE to know anything about the New Testament without trusting someone to translate it for them. Even if the person being taught is being taught using icons, that person was taught by someone who was taught by someone who was taught by someone who had the original languages translated so that they can understand the teachings (whether it be directly from the New Testament, or even icons).
@theman77777777232
@theman77777777232 10 жыл бұрын
So the point is, MOST PEOPLE rely on interpretation for their understanding of Christ and the Gospels. I AM DEFINITELY ONE OF THEM AND HAVE NO PROBLEM ADMITTING IT.
@theman77777777232
@theman77777777232 10 жыл бұрын
***** What language was the New Testament originally written in?
@michaelkinsey6263
@michaelkinsey6263 11 жыл бұрын
To become perfect as our Father in Heaven is perfect, is to give of yourself selflessly and in the great pleasure and joy the Father showed to the prodigal son.Give of yourself selflessly,in love of mankind and the joy and pleasure of giving gives us the uttermost spiritual satisfaction.I do know how this feels.If it is from your own need,as the widow's mite,as she was exaulted by the Christ, the spiritual reward is exceedingly wonderful.Our Father's Command is Life Eternal,his Good Pleasure
@billwilkie6211
@billwilkie6211 4 ай бұрын
I've been migrating toward EO for 42 years. But I'd never wave a flag and call anywhere the one true anything.
@rocoreb
@rocoreb 11 жыл бұрын
i do not know your religious affiliations, and it is not my business to ask. if you are protestant, however, i would ask you to consider this somewhat funny statement 'protestants believe every single christian is infallible except the pope'.
@bluewrenreilly4414
@bluewrenreilly4414 10 жыл бұрын
Well I understand on the day of Judgement God will not ask which costume party you belonged to but "How well have you loved one another"? Amen.
@fulllifeart4854
@fulllifeart4854 7 жыл бұрын
We can't even start understanding love, if we don't belong to the real Church that the Lord established. Moreover, with your logic we can be hindu and muslim and if we love each other we're good to go.. belonging to the truth Does matter, dear friend. Hope you don't get me wrong, dear. God bless.
@williamgill_esq.6487
@williamgill_esq.6487 6 жыл бұрын
bluewren Reilly Wrong. The ONLY question will be " did you receive my Son." God the Father will never ask " what branch or denomination of Christianity did you belong to?"
@CopperheadAirsoft
@CopperheadAirsoft 2 жыл бұрын
Catholic crusader here. Sending squad love to all allied oriental and Greek orthobros ✝️☦️
@gimeoden8309
@gimeoden8309 2 жыл бұрын
There is something very special about Christianity and you get or don't get it. I think what stands out to me is that death is no excuse to stop fighting the devil. And the devil kicks back at this statement always. He can't run from, block, hide or kill a real Christian. I am his doom in the long run.
@tomgreene8480
@tomgreene8480 9 жыл бұрын
Christ , like Socrates, wrote nothing. People wrote about Christ.
@Boriking
@Boriking 8 жыл бұрын
And like Socrates we learned what he taught and did because of people who wrote about him.
@tomgreene8480
@tomgreene8480 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Lafayette320
@Lafayette320 10 жыл бұрын
"Greeks [don't] have a problem with them," it was two Greek brothers, Sts. Cyrill and Methodios, sent by the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, St. Photios the Great, to proclaim the message of Jesus Christ and His Holy Church to the Slavs in Moravia, and they created a written language for them, "Cyrillic," which is the alphabet of the Russians, Ukrainians, Serbians, and others in nations of Orthodox Christians, and translated Divine Services of the Church, and one of the Gospels.
@marcusdamarcus837
@marcusdamarcus837 5 жыл бұрын
Let me shed some light, St. Cyrill and Methodios created the Glagolic alphabet, later on their bulgarian students created the "Cyrillic" alphabet in Bulgaria. The bulgarian czar gave the order for the creation and paid for the job. After it was spread around.
@llanianemesis
@llanianemesis 5 жыл бұрын
I am Greek and u are right.
@sophrapsune
@sophrapsune 7 ай бұрын
This is frankly brilliant, an absolute tour de force.
@Traildude
@Traildude Жыл бұрын
Listening to this I feel as though I never really heard the Gospel before! Is there a transcript of this talk somewhere?
@vaska1999
@vaska1999 6 жыл бұрын
It's just struck me how his entire argument concerning the failure of the original disciples to understand and even recognize Christ -- passionate and fascinating as it is -- depends on silently forgetting the three women to whom the resurrected Christ chose to show himself first. They needed neither the book nor the bread to find access to him, i.e. direct experience is more than possible and was so for those Jesus chose to show his resurrected self to first. It's only by accepting the already patriarchally-interpreted and formed official Christian narrative which recognizes only 12 (male) disciples and privileges them even in Behr's lecture here -- he mentions the women only to drop them from the picture -- that Behr can produce a reading which privileges canonical text and ritual over direct experience. I think that, for a variety of reasons, both of the two catholic churches -- the Roman Catholic and the Orthodox church, which also bears the title of catholic, i.e. universal -- have been wise to be wary of claims of direct, unmediated, private experience; yet, and even more than any of the Protestant churches, both do depend for their deepest springs and continued existence on Christian mystics, whose personal spiritual experiences (however much they are mediated by church teachings, as thy indeed are) testify to the ways God transcends both canonical texts (the Bible) and ritual (the bread/communion host). [Paradoxically, it turns out to be Protestantism, so often self-reduced to the idolatry of a text, which has least use and respect for the direct spiritual experience as exemplified by Christian mystics.]
@John-bf7ny
@John-bf7ny 6 жыл бұрын
well said.
@k.arlanebel6732
@k.arlanebel6732 6 жыл бұрын
The feminine facet of Christianity is a jewel yet to be fully revealed. But it will be. And when it is it will be like a sunrise revealing and overcoming a darkness that was not even known as such.
@VideoMask93
@VideoMask93 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently you haven't seen how much reverence the Catholic Churches have paid and continue to pay towards Mary.
@k.arlanebel6732
@k.arlanebel6732 5 жыл бұрын
That is not the same thing at all because the Catholic Church has sanitized all the femininity out of Mary. In Catholicism Mary in the Assumption is a being stripped of any feminine associations.
@VideoMask93
@VideoMask93 5 жыл бұрын
That is such a bizarre statement I can barely fathom it. Motherhood is literally the most feminine thing in the world.
@topcat1000
@topcat1000 10 жыл бұрын
The Gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke, John, are Not interpretations, they are eye witness accounts, written by their own hand.......
@Spaseebo
@Spaseebo 6 жыл бұрын
Where is your evidence that the four gospels are "eye witness accounts"? Do you realise how old these men would have had to be, to have written the gospels when they were written? I know of no scholarship that agrees with you. Please elucidate. Thank you.
@Arkoudeides.
@Arkoudeides. 5 жыл бұрын
There are not written by them.Thats why they called κατά Μάρκον that means what markos said etc.
@FirstnameLastname-py3bc
@FirstnameLastname-py3bc 4 жыл бұрын
Weren't written couple centuries later?
@sunnyland3952
@sunnyland3952 4 жыл бұрын
@@FirstnameLastname-py3bc No, they were all written in living memory, before destruction of the Temple, which is nowhere mentioned. There is no valid reason why the named authors may not have written them personally.
@sunnyland3952
@sunnyland3952 3 жыл бұрын
@@itisnow And the Gospels are written in very plain everyday Greek
@prayunceasingly2029
@prayunceasingly2029 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this talk.
@mirelaalina4050
@mirelaalina4050 3 ай бұрын
Christ Has Risen. ❤️☦️
@blasianpanther24
@blasianpanther24 8 жыл бұрын
THAT'S MY FRIEND'S DAD
@aislingmichaelaoneill1028
@aislingmichaelaoneill1028 6 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Eccles He is, or was, also the little boy I used to read to. Even then, he showed a remarkable capacity to see the wood despite the trees. This talk is brilliant!
@plumjam
@plumjam 6 жыл бұрын
said Peter about God.
@AugustineCollege
@AugustineCollege 11 жыл бұрын
And here is the question: when is ‘not seeing something to be true’ a matter of refusal and ‘intolerance’? And when is it a matter of fidelity (to the Scriptures, the Constitution, etc.) and a thing beyond our control? - The term ‘tolerance’ applies to situations where you have a choice to tolerate, no? But do you have that choice here? And what gives it to you? 2/2
@AlexMouratov
@AlexMouratov 11 жыл бұрын
Why does everybody think Christianity has to be "tolerant"? When did Jesus or one of the Apostle even use this word?
@McIntyreBible
@McIntyreBible 5 жыл бұрын
10:00, the first writer in the 2nd Century who gave a coherent & comprehensive account of Orthodoxy.
@RobertWGreaves
@RobertWGreaves 11 жыл бұрын
Would it not be more realistic to recognize that some "heretics" left because they were intolerant but that other "heretics" left because they saw the intolerance they were up against was unacceptable. What group of people has at all times been properly tolerant and properly divisive?
@juniedensing8681
@juniedensing8681 3 жыл бұрын
Yarnell McGee, do you know that the Orthodox Church is a break-away of the present Catholic Church? In year 330 A.D., Emperor Constantine moved the capital of the Roman Empire from Rome to Byzantium, which was changed to Constantinople. With this transfer of the Capital of the Roman Empire, Emperor Constantine declared Christianity (now Catholic Church) as official religion of the Roman Empire and a “branch” of the Christianity, which was based in Rome, was put up in Constantinople. This branch of Christianity in Constantinople, later, considered itself as the head-seat of Christianity. This led to animosities between Rome and Constantinople, which ended in the “Great Schism” in the year 1054 A.D. Christianity in Rome and in Constantinople excommunicated each other, and since then, the “branch” in Constantinople called itself “Orthodox Church” and the seat of Christianity was called “Catholic Church”. But, in 1965, report says, they have reconciled and the Orthodox Church has recognized the Pope in Rome as successor of the apostle Peter.
@yarnellmcgee2335
@yarnellmcgee2335 3 жыл бұрын
I believe you have it the other way around The Catholic church and the Apostolic Church (Orthodoxy) were one. It was not until the Great Schism that the Catholic church broke away from the Orthodox Faith. Check your history again.
@adibudica
@adibudica 12 жыл бұрын
WONDERFUL! Thank you for posting this video!
@Ettoredipugnar
@Ettoredipugnar 3 жыл бұрын
Received into Orthodoxy 30 yrs ago from the post Vatican 2 Roman church . Thank God !
@brucefetter
@brucefetter 12 жыл бұрын
at 51 mins on are some great points. "There is no surplus of divinity existing someplace else attainable by some other means." Great line.
@ar.6n
@ar.6n 11 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Orthodox Bulgaria, brothers in Christ +
@sunnyland3952
@sunnyland3952 4 жыл бұрын
Greetings back to you! +
@trueorthodoxfaith
@trueorthodoxfaith 10 жыл бұрын
The canonical bishop in North America were previously under SCOBA, then recently changed the name to the Assembly of Canonical Orthodox Bishops. Nothing has changed and the real issue of a unified church is swept aside. There exist no excuses, if the desire is strong. Meanwhile, they have dialogue with the catholics instead of pursuing the unity issue amongst all the Orthodox.
@HJKelley47
@HJKelley47 11 жыл бұрын
If I have misunderstood you, please accept my apology. I still stand on God's Word "a new command I give you, that you love one another." May God's love minister to each child of God in the Body of Christ.
@giuseppelogiurato5718
@giuseppelogiurato5718 8 жыл бұрын
BTW, I put the little picture of an Icon of St. Stephen beside my name because he is my favorite saint and my personal hero; NOT because I equate myself with him in any way... is this an acceptable practice? (I am new to internet; I don't the rules yet) 😃
@juliana-ex5dk
@juliana-ex5dk 2 жыл бұрын
people often put a picture of something important to them. my daughter uses a picture of the st. Catherine icon because she was born on the name day for St. Catherine wno is her patron saint, and coincidently, is a lawyer like St. Catherine.
@agapecorinthians113
@agapecorinthians113 2 жыл бұрын
My issue with all churches I am aware off is not teaching first of all the importance of the two most important Commandments - as Jesus Himself said -the meaning of the term Agape that has been translated as love in most Bible translations and that actually there is a skeleton of the Bible events leading to the End Times we are now. God mentions many times in OT that desires mercy and not sacrifice and so does Christ but still it seems to me that most churches love their rituals and interpretation out of the point of what God and Messiah and teach not the believers to connect with the Holy Spirit. Just the way I see it. God bless you.
@abeltrujilloEcommerce
@abeltrujilloEcommerce 11 жыл бұрын
that is the scapegoat used to justify departure from the Church. Most of those who participated in Nicea were shown with mutilated limbs and marks of torture. Where persecuted 13 years before that meeting. Saying that is saying that all those comunities founded by the apostles e.g. Antioquia Jerusalem, Rome....suddenly and unanimously decided to betray what they were being Martyred for. hmmm The same fallacy is been repeated over an over but never proved.
@McIntyreBible
@McIntyreBible 5 жыл бұрын
A very good lecture, but Bro.John fails to mention the importance of the Day of Pentecost, for that was why the disciples understood the things which Jesus taught them for 3 years.
@TheMenghi1
@TheMenghi1 11 жыл бұрын
It is common for Orthodox Christians to distress the Primacy of Peter by saying that the Bishop of Rome is first amongst equals, which in itself shows a certain respect to the pope's office. While it might seem as though the Orthodox have this pristine faith where ancient rites are still performed as before, you must keep in mind that the problem with Orthodoxy is that is it autocephalous, there are no two churches that agree with each other, which is a shame as it undermines 'that they be one.'
@sunnyland3952
@sunnyland3952 4 жыл бұрын
There are many Orthodox Churches, but they do agree on the main Theology. The separate organisational structures is also a great strength. No one leader of a Church can lead the whole Orthodox world astray, like the Pope of Rome is not doing.
@AlexMouratov
@AlexMouratov 11 жыл бұрын
Doesn´t believe in the Evangelium, but believes in Dan Brown...what can I say? It speaks for itself...
@richardbenitez7183
@richardbenitez7183 7 жыл бұрын
I watch lots of these seminars at colleges and universities on all kinds of topics. I'm always amazed how careless and poor the camera work, visuals, the sound. Originally I always thought an attendant used own phone to record event, then at a later time added video to KZfaq. Vids I watch are often at rich influential university. Why so poor? Taping done by volunteers on lunch? People doing recording are employees paid minimally, quick set up done, then takes smoke break? What?
@kasgo
@kasgo 11 жыл бұрын
Amazing. How many intelligent minds are here wasting their time. Truly amazing.
@truantj
@truantj 11 жыл бұрын
Lecture begins at @2:16
@HJKelley47
@HJKelley47 11 жыл бұрын
I do hope that both the LXX and the Masoretic text calls us to: "Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth." 2 Timothy 2:15. May all true believers be diligent to study God's Word, and learn and live His precepts and principles. Key scripture: "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another." That is both LXX & Masoretic. God bless you!
@sunnyland3952
@sunnyland3952 4 жыл бұрын
Both LXX and the Masoretic text are OLD TESTAMENT ONLY. Having said that , they do not differ in essentials: seek God, do good, love your fellow-man.
@ladybugsing
@ladybugsing 12 жыл бұрын
Christ Jesus was with his disciples from the day of his resurrection (opened scriptures and opened understanding of the scriptures when he breathed on them and said receive ye the Holy Ghost)
@TheSoundChisel
@TheSoundChisel 11 жыл бұрын
No they were not heretics. They were simply labeled as heretics because they disagreed with the "in crowd." Those thought to be heretics should be tolerated because they might actually be right in their fight against the narrow minded and misguided mainstream. It is intellectually dishonest to fail to deal with an honest and open dialogue with those who disagree. That sort of cowardly attitude is what has ruined Christianity. The church obviously has no clue how heretical the main stream is.
@martinniceski4032
@martinniceski4032 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! God bless you!
@jessejames5335
@jessejames5335 Жыл бұрын
Born into a protestant church. Im swaying 90% to orthodox church. Ive read about the virigin mary but it's still something that I'm having trouble with. Still feel like the dead can't hear us because they are "sleeping" since God hasn't returned fornhis church. Can someone please guide me to passages and books anout this subject?
@yarnellmcgee2335
@yarnellmcgee2335 7 ай бұрын
If you haven't already requested this information from John Behr, that may be a good place to start. Another suggestions would be to find an Orthodox Church and inquire your questions with a priest or attend a Bible study or question and answer session if one is offered. In this way you can get your questions answered directly from the source if you follow what I am suggesting. In Jesus name. Hope this helps.
@princekermit0
@princekermit0 7 ай бұрын
@jessejames5335 Read Rev 5:5 and Rev 7:13-14 and you will see the Elders in heaven are talking with John. From this we can see that, while their bodies are in the earth "sleeping" their spirits are in heaven. They are able to communicate. The dead, or departed's status is often misstaught and misquoted from passages like "the dead know nothing". Lets look at that passage in the 9th chapter of Ecclesiastes. "For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even the memory of them is forgotten. Their love, their hate and their jealousy have long since vanished; never again will they have a part in anything that happens under the sun." Well, its awkward to build any kind of foundation with this verse. Solomon spoke/wrote this with the divine revelation that had been given so far. We know later with the 1st Coming of Christ that the dead will in fact have a part in anything that happens under the sun. We know that Lazarus was dead, Jesus waited until he died from his sickness before coming to raise him back up. Where did the dead go before Jesus died? Jesus affirmed an older Jewish religious tradition that the righteous dead went to a place called "Abraham's bosom" but the unrighteous went to a place called Hades. Since the human has parts such as a body, and a soul or spirit, we should ask what is death? Death is the separation of body from the soul. Bodies decay away leaving bones, and even bones will turn back to dust. A soul or spirit doesn't. Jesus speaks to the thief on his right, the one who repented. "Today you will be with me in paradise." Orthodox Christianity holds an ancient doctrine called "The harrowing of Hell" or "The harrowing of Hades" After His human soul (which was fully part of the Divine Logos, or second person of the Trinity) was severed from his body at death, He descended into the underworld. He proclaimed liberty to the captive righteous dead, such as Abraham, and Adam and Eve, and took the keys of Hell itself, and led them out. You can google and research this term "The harrowing of Hell" to learn more. So, in John's book of Revelation we see all these people who had been brought from that place, and now they were abiding in the place where angels are, a place where thrones exist, and an altar. "And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand" (Rev. 8.3,4) Now we can ask what the bible verse means when it says: "Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us". If you ask protestant bible teacher and scholars, they will reject the ancient Fathers of the earliest church and deny that we are surrounded by Saints, who witness our lives. But the ancient church says something else. The living faith says not only do they witness our lives, they pray to God with us, when we ask them to. Not only that, but God uses these same saints to minister to the living body of Christ. Some times they bear miracles to us, or appear visibly and talk with us, delivering guidance. They very much are not dead. They live in the place of the Most High, and they work there, and here. This is rejected by rationalism, modernism and Protestantism but is very much held by all forms of Apostolic Christianity. In the 5th Century Christianity divided over doctrines of who Christ is after the council of Chalcedon in 431AD. This was a very long time before Roman Catholicism separated from the Orthodox. This 5th century group of churches are the Copts, the Ethiopians, the Arminian, Indian Malankara and the Syriac orthodox. Originally the Georgians of the country Georgia were in this group as well. They are called Oriental Orthodox, and the ones of accepted Chalcedon were called Eastern Orthodox. From the Eastern Orthodox, the Roman or Latin speaking western Church departed in schism, formally in 1054. Now, all of these are apostolic churches that go back to the very apostles themselves with unbroken lines of succession. And even though they are in profound disagreement about a lot of things, the doctrines concerning the Departed are the same. The saints who died in right standing with God, in Christ, make their way to heaven to be with Jesus and the Father, and the angels. Rome added a thing called Purgatory where the stains of sin on the soul are bleached away, before being allowed into the presence of God, but it is a recent innovation or invention. It is remarkable that such a broad and diverse group will keep these things in common and in agreement, but only protestants since Martin Luthor and Jean Calvin and protestants after them teach something else. Lastly, let us speak about Mary. Or the Blessed Theotokos (Mother and Bearer of God). At the age of about 70, the Holy Mother died. She did not remain dead. But she either was transformed into the resurrected state by Christ at the moment of her passing, or after several days. This was seen by several of the Apostles as she was seen following Christ back up into Heaven. So, she currently is what all saints will become when the Lord returns to rapture the church. The bodily new person. This is called "the Dormation of Mary" or "the Assumption of Mary" doctrine. The Dormation one is how the Orthodox teach it, and the Assumption is how the Roman Catholics teach it. St. Paul says "At His coming, we will become as He is" Whatever Jesus is after the resurrection, we will be partakers of that. I do not think we get to join the Holy Trinity, but we become something other than normal humans. Thus, in addition to the special status of having given birth to God, the Son, she is also the first to be truly ressurrected. It is in this place or state we can realize she isn't like us normal humans anymore. More God given abilities, would seem to indicate more responsibilities. Can she join us in prayer? Try asking her to find out. Bear in mind what Christ said on the Cross "Mother, behold your son" speaking to her and John. "Son, behold your mother" he also said. Now, if we are joined to Christ by Adoption, and are given all things of the house of God, be aware that we now have a Mother who cares about her adopted children, even the ones in ignorance about her. We have someone near and dear to Jesus, who will pray with us! How wonderful God is to grant us all such a blessing. Pray and ask Jesus Christ our Lord to reveal the truth of these things. I have only put forward my human understanding of the ancient teaching of the Church, and I am not perfect. Christ is. He is without blemish or wrinkle, the very spotless lamb of God. Please forgive the length of this response.
@TheSoundChisel
@TheSoundChisel 11 жыл бұрын
If anything be true it can stand on its own. The moment an appeal to authority is used to settle a difference of opinion authority is blowing smoke. It's absurd that any institution thinks it has authority to settle differiences of opinion about the biblical text.. Differences will arise, but trying to settle differences by authority IS intolerance. The institutional church was never set up to become the authority it claims to be. Let bad opinions die their own natural death if they will.
@Cennedi
@Cennedi 11 жыл бұрын
Denial of the trinity is denial of God.
@heatherstub
@heatherstub 10 жыл бұрын
What's perhaps shocking is that for many of us who've converted to the Faith, we knew nothing about it, and it has been hidden from most of us, because the founding fathers of this country and Protestant church hated Orthodox and Roman Catholic teachings.
@sunnyland3952
@sunnyland3952 4 жыл бұрын
Not too late to investigate, and change .... may God bless you
@heatherstub
@heatherstub 4 жыл бұрын
@@sunnyland3952 Oh no. It's never too late, and I'm so much better off because of it. Check out orthodox dot net, ancient faith dot com and my ocn dot net. If you add radio. in front of the last two web sites, you'll find two radio stations each featuring music and talk stations with each site. I've been a fan of both, because they each cooperate with one another, and ancient faith radio features probably the most extensive collections of podcasts, specials and special films. Here on KZfaq, Trisagion Films also features many types of films. Also, since the Coronavirus shut us down, there are dozens of churches who regularily broadcast live here on KZfaq including 4 Monasteries. The best way to find all of them is to type "Orthodox Channels" in the search field, and in "Search Filters", select the "Channels" filter, and have fun investigating. The best way to learn about the Faith is to experience all the Divine Services, and there's a podcast that started last year with Fr. Alexis Cor where he walks us through the Orthodox Study Bible. What's different about it is that there are ten books which were included in the original Bible when it was cannonized on July 15, 367 known as the Second Cannon which is not to be confused with the Apocrepha. These books were originally in the Hebrew Bible, but the Jews removed them, because they contained books they didn't consider important. The Greek Jews, however, did, because these books contain the things that the Jews considered scandalous. Of course, they also convicted some of them for killing the prophets, but they also preface more of the miracles which took place before the Incarnation of Christ. I could go on and on, but I'll let you discover for yourself this amazing, historic Church. I really hope you do enjoy it. I know I do, and I've been His Servent since April 5, 1987, and I took exactly two years before that day to learn all I could. You'll learn so much about yourself, too. God Bless!
@AugustineCollege
@AugustineCollege 11 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not, but there is a supplementary reading available on our website (link posted in description above).
@LawOfOneDaughter
@LawOfOneDaughter 9 жыл бұрын
I disagree with what the speaker says about the Gnostics. From what I understand, they did see that Christ was playing out a drama to show the way. They did not avoid looking at the crucifixion at all. They understood that salvation comes not by merely believing that Jesus died for men, but through men's actions as each struggles to become more God like..They understood also that it is a painful process. Since everything is subject to interpretation, we should look at every scripture if we're to discover the truth, even those deemed heretical. We can all learn from the Gospel of Thomas.
@LawOfOneDaughter
@LawOfOneDaughter 9 жыл бұрын
***** In the early days, we had many groups calling themselves Christians. Now we have the Catholics, Protestants, Eastern Orthodox Church, Amish, LDS, SDAs...etc. How do we know whose teachings and understandings were and were not inspired by the Holy Spirit? If one group is right, then is everyone else wrong and on their way to you know where? Surely, that cannot be? It behoves us to examine scriptures from all sources to find the ultimate truth. Take another example, that of the Gospels. The accounts of the crucifixion were inconsistent. Which are we to believe? Only by reading them all, do we get the gist of what happened. It's the heart of the matter we need to get at and we won't do that through literal interpretation and confining ourselves to limited pieces of text.
@LawOfOneDaughter
@LawOfOneDaughter 9 жыл бұрын
***** Orthodoxy was still one of many, so once again, how would anyone know what the true teachings are? I'm just making a point that we need to be careful to get to the heart of the matter and not stick with literal translations or limit our reading.. Merry Christmas and blessings to you.
@purplexenno
@purplexenno 9 жыл бұрын
LawOfOneDaughter i'm afraid you are confusing "one of many" with culture. All Eastern Orthodox Churches (and Roman Catholic until the changes starting in the 7th century) worship Christ in the same way. It matter not at all if you go to a Antiochian or Greek Church, the service is the same. The only "variance" is cultural. If you change something, even a small thing, you are no longer "the same" as the other Churches and are no longer Orthodox. It's amazing just how important that is. No matter where you went, be it in the 1st century catacombs or 6th century Greek/Ethiopian or even today's Russian/Serb/Greek/Antiochian/French etc. They all worship the same.
@lornadoone8887
@lornadoone8887 9 жыл бұрын
Are you basing this on a study of the Gnostic texts (i.e., their date, context, content) vs. the canonical Gospels (w/ similar background data in view) or are you reading second-hand opinions? Where is your "understanding" coming from?
@ryanomalley8273
@ryanomalley8273 9 жыл бұрын
***** @gnostiicism: 2 Corinthians 11:14
@BDTJinks
@BDTJinks 12 жыл бұрын
Fabulous!
@paulflute
@paulflute 11 жыл бұрын
Fr. John Behr takes on those who dismiss Jesus Christ on "historical grounds," by explaining how historicism itself is problematic and, indeed, heretical. The alternative to historicism as our mode of interpretation, he explains, is Christ on the cross as the foundation of all our knowledge and interpretation..... well no need to watch that then...
@pandirasbox
@pandirasbox 11 жыл бұрын
"Whereas the Gnostics are making up something new everyday". You just treated all "Gnostics" as one group but you know full well they weren't. Valentinus was not coming up with something new everyday. He had a system he stuck to.
@AugustineCollege
@AugustineCollege 11 жыл бұрын
I want to ask about the Supreme Court. ‘The moment an appeal to authority is used to settle a difference of opinion authority is blowing smoke.’ Well, the Supreme Court settles such differences by ‘ruling’ on what’s Constitutional. Why is that ‘blowing smoke’? ‘If anything be true it can stand on its own,’ you said - so who needs the SC? - Are we not able to identify people who know better than us? People who have studied a thing deeper? Must the only supreme authority I recognize always be me?
@PViolety
@PViolety Жыл бұрын
Nice.
@ClassicalProtestant
@ClassicalProtestant 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the doctrine of justification that Paul so eloquently and overtly lays out throughout the entire New Testament and the Lord himself that led me to put the “professing church” in a context. It’s the biblical lens of salvation that so many differ on. It’s really where the differences hinge on...salvation is by faith alone, through grace alone, in Christ alone. Good works are the manifestation of that salvation not a means to secure salvation. He is the author and finisher of our faith...Jonah 2:9 days salvation is of the Lord. Ephesians 2:1-10 it isn’t our doing but it is a gift from God.
@sunnyland3952
@sunnyland3952 4 жыл бұрын
Show me your Faith without works and I will show you my Faith BY my works. (St. James.) Faith without works is dead. When Paul writes about works, he means primarily observing the Jewish laws. If we bear no fruit (another kind of works), we will not be spared either, like the barren fig tree.
@doriesse824
@doriesse824 2 жыл бұрын
@@sunnyland3952 Faith = Salvation + Works. Not Salvation = Faith + Works. True faith is manifested BY works, not salvation being manifested by works, lest any man should boast.
@sunnyland3952
@sunnyland3952 2 жыл бұрын
@@doriesse824 We can swap words, the main things are simple enough. Works do not save us, but lack of works can condemn us. The devil knows what the truth, but will be condemned for his lack of good works. What is work, then? Repentance is first, which does not just mean confessing our sinfulness, but turning from sinfulness to God. Repentance is forever to be deepened throughout our time here. Next come all the other things that should characterized the life a Christian: forgiveness, prayer, fasting, charity, service of the ill and the poor. No-one can practise all works, but we must all practise some of them.
@JayeK47
@JayeK47 11 жыл бұрын
LXX vs Masoertic text. The text was altered in the ancestors of the Masoretic to downplay messianic prophecies. Masoretic texts are debased Scripture in the fullest sense of the word. The Orthodox Church still uses the LXX as the Evangels did.
@sunnyland3952
@sunnyland3952 4 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting statement, and it might be thought to make sense if the Talmudic Jews did so. The masoretic text was fixed rather late - finally in the 10th century with few alterations later. Do any earlier versions of it exist? Do they corroborate your statement? Or do we only have the LXX to compare with? WikiPedia's entry 'Masoretic Text' is worth reading, and does not support your claim. The Peshitta, Qumran and Samaritan texts show that variants existed from early times, some are close to LXX and others not; but not that systematic expunging took place. If you have more information it will be welcome.
@BaronReed-rj9rz
@BaronReed-rj9rz Ай бұрын
There is not one single denomination that has not been perverted by the ideas of man. Jesus did not come to establish a denomination but a Bride.
@rocoreb
@rocoreb 11 жыл бұрын
brilliant, enlightening lecture!
@ChaudhryRajinderNijjharJatt
@ChaudhryRajinderNijjharJatt 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus told us that you have one Father. Call no one a Father on earth. If you have some knowledge, then tell me in whose name John, the Baptist baptised the Jewish men in water? Why John never baptised a woman, Gentile or a Samaritan?
@trueorthodoxfaith
@trueorthodoxfaith 11 жыл бұрын
Peter was a leader amongst the Apostles. Is is the latin church which creates a perversion of Mathew. Christ is testing Peter's faith in Him. Christ is explicitly asking "who am I?" The church is not founded on the foundation of one Apostle, when all were told to go and baptize and teach all nations.
@sunnyland3952
@sunnyland3952 4 жыл бұрын
and the keys were given to all twelve
@kainotomoc
@kainotomoc 10 жыл бұрын
There are a dozen countries that comprise of Eastern Orthodoxy and are in communion with each other. Have you asked yourself why Greeks would not have a problem with them?
@HJKelley47
@HJKelley47 12 жыл бұрын
I've often thought that God revealed what a cheribum looked like in order for the image to be put on the curtains separating the Holy Place from the Holy of Holies, as well as placed on the ark. Outside of those two occasions, God forbid the generating of a "likeness" for what happens is that we will usually draw/fashion an image/likeness after our own image. This is evident in icon works around the world. I do recognize that icons are an important part of Eastern Orthodox worship.
@sunnyland3952
@sunnyland3952 4 жыл бұрын
God forgave 'graven images' because they lead to idol worship, worship of other gods. It was reasoned (during the controversy over icons) that since God took form (as a man, in the form of Jesus Christ), depictions of Jesus are permissible, whereas the Father and the Holy Spirit are only shown symbolically (a hand, a dove). Orthodoxy still does not allow graven images - though some Crucifixes have made their way into some homes, and not many are deeply troubled by that.
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