They had to change the parts.

Gotta avoid that copyright takedown!

Lol

yep gotta love those snare rolls

you talk funny

@@fuckcensorship69 How, a lot of people consider him one of the best drummers from the 90s

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There a quote from Billy, I’m paraphrasing but he says you should be able to listen to the drums by themselves and know what song it is.

You can also hear it in the making of Siamese Dream video on the veuphoria dvd. It was a very live sounding room.

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It's a pretty killer sound! Main thing I'd recommend is keeping the snare bottom kinda low but boosting a shitload of 2-5k on the top mic. Be careful if there's gonna be hi hats involved though

It honestly sounds like they did a Cherub-inspired track

It’s by the Damaged Gourds.

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According to the mixer Alan Moulder he said the blend of real snare to sample was probably about 70/30. The real snare and room mics are definitely more prevalent in the mix but the sample still adds a bit of extra “snap” to the sound and helps cut down on hihat bleed

As a drummer, I always just figured a drum machine was used on that song. I’m curious now.

@@jeffrose1854 I wish I could remember where the interview was that I saw, but apparently Julian wrote it to a drum machine but didn't want Fab to not play for a song on their first album so the producer dude (blanking on his name) found a way to make it sound like a drum machine

@@JohnLawrieTWS That's awesome! It's possible that it was played on a kit and then maybe a measure or two was sampled to get that insane consistency. The chorus section does seem to introduce a slightly more natural feel (crash ride is very hard to replicate convincingly). Thanks for the info!

constantly thinking about this drum sound ur so right

I just watched their passionfruicover vid

maybe they put it in figure 8 mode. I did hear a lot of kick drum in it.

Plus it was recorded in a HUGE room.

I think there's a longstanding industry convention that says that songwriting is essentially the lead melody and chord progression but everything else (including drums) is considered "arrangement" and is less protected and often considered less valuable. It isn't always fair and it doesn't make sense for some styles of music, but my understanding is that this convention got carried over from the early days of recorded music when artists didn't typically write their own material, but instead performed the work of professional songwriters.

It's not just convention, its how copyright law is drawn up! You just can't copyright a drum beat. It became a huge controversy in the 00's when Greg Coleman, who performed the legendary Amen break, died homeless coz technically only the topline (which was almost never sampled) was copywritten.

@@lightfuserunaway2508 Yeah, it was a similar situation for Funky Drummer, where James Brown got all the royalties even though the most memorable and lucrative part of the song was Clyde Stubblefield's drum beat (though thankfully, he didn't die homeless or hungry, and I don't think he ever went to court over it). I say "convention" just because, imho, the laws reflect a certain cultural bias that makes more sense for some kinds of music than others. For example, in the great American songbook era, composition was largely separated from interpretation, arrangement, and performance, and those songs were all about top-line melody and chord progression anyway, so the system worked. On the other hand, there are genres like hip-hop, which often doesn't have any top-line melody, or roots reggae, where the bassline often carries the tune and could be considered the main hook. Most drumbeats in use today probably shouldn't be protected by copyright because they've already been played thousands of times over in other songs. But every now and then, when someone plays something really original Funky Drummer, or 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover, I wish they'd "give the drummer some".

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It's like the great Thelonious Monk once said: "There are no wrong notes; some are just more right than others."

@@Reverb so, yes?! lol

Jessica is a great drummer, get better speakers or ears for that matter