I agree so much! If every final stage at the very least would have gotten the high-res, polished bigger sprites, then LGPE easily would take the w for best menu sprites, even with them having no animations comparing to others in mind :o

At least some fanmade sprites do exist that solve the LGPE issue. I’ve seen them in that quiz website where you can name all Pokémon from memory. I don’t like how raichu, ninetales etc get upscaled sprites but their alolan forms don’t get changed since Sun and moon but the website makes them how they should be.

To be fair.. they finally fixed Blastoise and it shooting from it's cannons in Scarlet/Violet haha

@@RetroNC oooh... I didn't know about that, but I also barely watched stuff about the Switch games and can't play them because I only have two 10 year old laptops and no money for a Nintendo Switch. Still sucks it took that long for them to fix that, could've happened AT LEAST on the 3DS already... And tbh I wouldn't wanna buy a barely finished game for R$300 (Nintendo never lower prices nor adapts them for Brazil, selling every game for almost 1/5 of a minimal salary, and they used to be even more expensive a few years ago since the games costed R$350~400 and the minimal salary was also lower [R$1039~1240 from 2020 to 2022], I kinda despise Nintendo nowadays due to that, despite most their products always being overpriced here at my country tbh, even the Wii wasn't popular here, on the Wii's golden age everyone was buying ps2s around here and the NDS was their only console that was kinda accessible, as well as the NES and SNES, on the late 90s/early 2000s, with the NES clones being sold as fake ps1s...)

Spoken like a person who doesn’t have the first clue how a multimillion company works, marketing or economics.

@@ShaftCommander I'm well aware Pokémon barely changes their combat system because even slight changes already make people bitch about it, as well as the fact people buy a pokemon game expecting specific things, and that a multimillionaire company won't risk their precious money to make a more expensive game under the possibility of it fail and ruin their billionaire franchise. And I have also read about how pathetically low the pokemon games budgets are, with also not that many people working on each new game, specially for such a huge franchise.

I hope you do some research about pokemon's development one day. You will be surprised at how ignorantly uneducated you sound right now to people who have......

the final sprites do look good af tho i really like that scyther

It's just how it is sometimes I guess

i mean making 1 model i in fact easier than drawing 2 images, plus it lets you get a fuller look and more animations

@@Gamebuilder2000 while this is true, every Pokemon still gets a unique vector illustration that is used as their menu icon, which I believe is what the original comment is referencing. Just as much labor to create those as it would be to create a bitmap sprite and keep a series tradition alive.

You actually got a point

Completely forgot about the special amie/pelago sprites for the asymmetrical sprites, you're totally right!

wait.. am I?

@@RetroNC you do a very convincing robot voice thats for sure

Is this a summary? Thanks if it is

Even though models seem like the logical next step - they're not convincing me currently with their execution of it, which doesn't help 3D's side either😵

@@Attmoz-Phere No, just my opinion

@@Nako3gen 5 is the only 2D I can accept. They were animated so well and the older 2D just makes them look more like cardboard cutouts when they don’t have those little animations when you send them out like in gen 2-4. 3D isn’t even bad in general, if that was the case people would hate breath of the wild. 3D Pokémon can looks good but it’s just taking way too long.

I hate them GIVE ME BACK MY PIXEL SPRITES

frrr like what ☠️☠️☠️

I think he meant for it as more of a “there’s less creative liberties taken in the transition from art to game” and less “3D bad”

@@inuvoxx yeah but for me at least it seems like that’s just false, personally I think the designs, inspirations and concepts have gone more in depth in more new designs while also having the classic simple mons like flamigo who still fit within the region they’re from like Alola and Galar are the perfect example where so many mons are so well thought out to fit and still look cool, cute or goofy

@@blasty5935 I think you’re misunderstanding the meaning of the term “creative liberties” here, in terms of design Basically, in the transition between design to spritework, some Pokemon looked a bit… off in terms of their design at the end of the process, namely in gens 1 and 2, though it did get better as the years wore on and designs generally got more accurate through the transition, until we got to the models where they could be fully standardized.

@@inuvoxx that’s nothing to do with creative liberties then?? That’s just transitioning from 2d to 3d

At the very least they still remain in the old games, so we didn't get the worst case scenario haha

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@@RetroNC So many of my hyperspecific interests in one channel, what else could I ask for?

to each their own ig, but i definetly liked the sprites more because of the charm they had not that i hate the 3d models, but the pixelated style was just so satisfying, even gen 6 was kind of a balance between the 3d models with a more pixel-like look, which is why they have my favorite aesthetic of any games from the series also i dont get it, the gen 5 sprites look just fine to me 😭