your confused

@@kevinnoble4731 you can't spell....

@@mkat4271 sorry didn’t realize the spelling bee genius was here

@@kevinnoble4731 I guess you don't realize alot of stuff.

@@mkat4271 don’t worry I realize what you are

Unfortunatly thats nothing new been going on forever and will continue

Timing. They were competing in an era full of musical giants.

Shock: SO true!!!

Deen Ali This is an UNBELIEVABLE factoid. Talk about injustice.

I didn't know that. That's criminal

Can't sell copy if it isn't sensational, they think.

You mean the kid diddling?

I love hall and oats heard them as a child way before Micheal Jackson as all I had was the 1 radio station half the day it was country, . Epic music sent around a team to my school to play the video to thriller , after that they finally played thriller , didn't sound as good as it did from the record with stereo headphones, a year later . The video I arrived late for , so .... anyhow no similarities between the two songs. Exactly as Daryle Hall said. These guys are soul smooth funky coffee house , really good esp Maneater , Micheal Jackson, just at another level when I first heard thriller the album, on headphones 🎧, wow its like music had been re invented , blew my socks off

I'm not saying they don't handle the situation perfectly, like real professionals should, but they also know if anyone took the case to court, they'd immediately lose. Melodies are so important in determining whether one song "ripped off" another, and no jury in the world would ever confuse one of these songs with another.

Listen to " Caribbean Queen" and " Like a Virgin" and tell me they didn't steal from Billie Jean

the question is, ' I can't go for that ' can't go for what?

can't go for a crap, can't join the army, can't get out of bed, what does it mean?

And great in concert! Just saw them a few weeks ago.

Maneater is killer..

@@Afrimusican hall and goats were great, excellent songs like Sarah, rich girl ect, unfortunately the biggest hit they had was maneater, the worst song they ever did, a bit like rock n roll legend Chuck berry, his biggest hit? my dingaling.

I bet the honor went both ways a life I could never even imagine

GE Smith from the SNL band?

@@nuge1717 yes

My life is so boring! 😭

@@edp3202 an exciting life can be costly there are millions upon millions of us, just like you

DUDE!! I swear I alwasy thought that sounded like hall and oats

Hall & Oats did release that song. Paul Young remade it afterwards. Its on their Voice Album

I think Daryl does a version of that on Daryls House- I love that song, and the show

Daryl Hall performed that song on their 1986 album "Live At The Apollo" when they performed with Eddie Kendrick and David Ruffin of the Temptations. He announced that he would be singing it in its original arrangement which as you stated was on "Voices".

Had no idea Hall wrote that. Thanks for info!

Truly!!!

The guitar intro to “Sarah Smile” is killer

@@stephenfiore9960 Indeed

Just saw them in concert a few weeks ago. Still amazing!

They are STILL spectacular in concert too!

Robert Allen exactly

Oates

@@donaldfewell9929 if you're gonna correct misspellings, then... proper names are always capitalized, "donald".

Too bad he was a pos pedophile

These guys aren't suing. Michael approached him and stated that he stole it to make billy jean...he also says that billy jean is a different song and was not really the same, so flattered but slightly confused as to why Michael would say it was stolen...

I think you got this wrong. MJ did NOT use Hall & Oates for Billie Jean but if you want to see something. Go view Hall & Oates 1st hit from 1975 called Sarah Smile and you will see the beat is VERY similar to the Jackson 5 1971 hit Maybe Tomorrow. Now that's something you can EASILY see.

DJ SOULCHILD I know right? Have you heard the NEW word on the street???

Mrtrilltyler Steal a dictionary.

DJ SOULCHILD when people (artists) look at it as a way to sue another artist for money. good on you Hall & Oates.

You say tomato...

Marsha Scott... "White singers"???????? So now only white singers steal music???? That is so fucking racist it's ridiculous. Farrell literally is who produced the song as well as Happy which is even more of an apparent ripoff of Marvin Gay than Blurred lines. I don't care if you are white, black or pink with purple dots your comment is small minded and racist.

Same happened with Coldplay's "The Scientist," inspired by the George Harrison's "Isn't It a Pity"...

Totally right on. I don't need to comment, you have done it for me

It was actually the synth part from “kiss on my list” according to what Eddie Van Halen told Daryl Hall. However come to think of it it sounds a lot more like “Dreams” than “Jump” (the beginning part of the song when the drums start). Listen to them both carefully, Dreams sounds a lot more like Kiss on my list

@@billykokkinidis Eddie despite what people say about Eddie, he was generally a nice guy. He didn't even get paid for the guitar work he did for Michael Jackson, I heard him say in an interview once and didn't even seem to care. Most artists would be suing for back pay and royalties, Eddie didn't give a shit.

@@JENDALL714 eddie is a good guy. He even helped pay for jason beckers medical expenses and gave him one of his guitars. Its was a tremendous loss the day he died

Stole??? Michael said it that way to give props to H&O. And they deserve it bc i love those blue-eyed soul brothers! (Big ups to Michael McDonald & the Doobie brothers!!)

@@JENDALL714 Took him 20 minutes and they did two takes ....and a little side note: Per an interview with David Lee Roth, Edward had the "Beat It" solo laying around for years and could never find the right Van Halen song to use it in.....when he was asked to perform the solo on "Beat It" he dusted it off and made it work for "Beat It" and history was made.

Oates is a Janetty

saw them. incredible talent. great show. still can't believe the came to New Hampshire .

What makes you think they're underrated? They're pretty damn legendary in the music world

I think you got this wrong. MJ did NOT use Hall & Oates for Billie Jean but if you want to see something. Go view Hall & Oates 1st hit from 1975 called Sarah Smile and you will see the beat is VERY similar to the Jackson 5 1971 hit Maybe Tomorrow. Now that's something you can EASILY see.

NOT! inducted rock roll hall of fame!

Daryl Hall is the one with the talent. The other guy wasn’t needed at all.

I went to their concert at riverbend last year. Excellent

Sometimes are not the artists themselves. The record conpanies or the rights owner instead. Not all artists own the whole rights of their works.

Agreed 👍👍

Yes I just saw them in Tampa last night. Fantastic show

"... best music ever" Don't be silly.

"Sarah Smile" is all I have to say

People who make dresses are using someone elses' prints, and those prints probably came from a print from somewhere else. What I don't understand about QJ is that he's badmouthing MJ about doing it, but he went along with it and produced it anyway (?) What does that say about him?

Its called influences. Jackson and Prince should have given all their money to James Brown

Yeah, what Quincy did was take ideas from their song something that has been done a million times. Much different from actually stealing songs come on Debra.

@@blackturkdog Jackson anyway. Prince actually wrote his own songs and played his own instruments.

@@Mozart1220 true but times you can see his influences. Also, in later years around the 90s , Prince was sampling other artists

Yes. Darryl is one of the greatest singers in the last century.

That is serious hyperbole😂

How are they underrated ? They have had a long list of hit records . They are hugely successful. They are like the most successful R&B duo in US music history. Everybody knows who they are. Using underrated every chance you get is overrated

@@tommyhaynes9157 maybe the correct word is recognized. They deserve more recognition

No....I think a pencil and a sharpener would do the trick. Easier to fix all the spelling mistakes you make, when your hand gets tired of all that writing...

My paper is still blank..lol

Darryl has always been my favorite male singer! My favorite female singer?....probably the lead for the Bee Gees 😆

@@jonathanmoon86 It's incredible how they managed to make killer pop tunes using R&B hooks. There is no better white boy R&B singer on the planet than Hall. Edgar Winter is the one for the blues, but R&B is all Daryl Hall.

@@petecartwright5211 Michael McDonald? Or is he soul?

I love that show.

@@joetartaglia607 ikr?

Totally! I didn't realize what a true musician he is

Who's Daryl House? Are trying to say Daryl Hall of Hall and Oates?

@@tj.espygil4544 yes that same Daryl look it up on youtube

Quincy Jones is still butt hurt that MJ used different producers for the "Dangerous" album.

Quincy has become a messy old geezer. I can’t wait for his skeletons to fall out of HIS closet.

@@agapereign Yeah! Wtf happened to him? Now doubt he has put together some wonderful music for generations but sounded like a mad crazy guy in that interview .

Rising ATLien how many people went on a rant in the comments before even watching the video? Sad

I worked with Daryl. If it's one thing he isn't, it's humble.

@@ksteiger was he at least a nice guy? A person can have a ego and still be nice, also very cool that you did work with him

@@ksteiger I'm sorry to hear that. Even so, he is an incredible vocalist. I've been listening to Hall & Oates' music from the eighties to present day. It has aged quite well. I think one element that affords it that timeless quality is Darryl's signature vocalization. There's the nostalgic, sentimental factors, taking me back to the high school years, to be sure, but when I listen to their songs today, I find myself moved - unexpectedly. And 'I Can't Go For That' STILL impresses. That baseline rocks.

@@ksteiger ROFLOL. I heard from someone who booked them that the entire crew soup to nuts ( no pun intended ) was gay.

LOVE Hall & Oates

Chords are heart strings. They are played in strum mental. I can strike a chord in you.Music plays to emotional frequencies etc. It's sinful to play sad song to a heavy heart.

@@jimmyfreeman5235 Well said.. :) May God be with you and your family

Michael totally stole their song.

They are 2 bad mamma jammas; in the Haight in the 60’s and 70’s, while “working” one night, the house where I was chilling out the lady of the house put on Smile Sarah Smile, then You Make my Dreams Come True; they and Michael McDonald are MY FAVORITES OF ALL TIMES;

Tariq Busy Very much the same song base line and all.

Tariq Busy well said

You are right, Tariq! People just keep open minded.

Tariq Busy Nice call

Tariq Busy Agreed!👍

He only stooped low to pick up little boys, they're so short!

@@abc456f Stupidity knows no limits, eh mr. jinx?

"He’s the damn King of Pop!" Says who?

@@abc456f they never found proof idiot. It goes to show you didn’t do your research you racist jealous fool. Those were the people who hated MJ. Just like they hated MLK Jr.

@@davidlast1370 ignorance is worse. It’s being stupid on purpose.

There were a lot cooler bands to see back then. But now that I'm old, you're probably right.

Very, very underrated! Daryl Haal and John Oates are the best rock and soulduo in music history for me. They still can gave them a grammy for all the great music they made and what made and makes people so happy with it In the Netherlands very underrated. There now are young people who like their music. It's timeless! It' school a pity, that they aren't much younger ( but they have the looks!) I saw Daryl Hall at paradiso Amsterdam Holland and at Vredenburg Utrecht Holland, in the beginning of the nineties, unfortunately without John Oates, but the concert was awesome!!! It' s great they have met each other! Their voices are wonderfull together!!! I will love their music most of all music, that's made, although I like a lot of music. A fan for life!!! ❤

Well Sem, he actually said that he hopes Daryl Hall don't mind if he stole No Can Do and used it for Billie Jean, which is akin to an apology.

Sem, No. Daryl Hall has no reason at all to lie about Michael Jackson in any way. He would have nothing to gain by doing so. He's not some 2-bit leach claiming MJ sexually abused his child for a cash settlement. He's a fellow artist who's older than MJ would have been and had/has hundreds of millions of dollars of his own. MJ doesn't need to deny or confirm anything said here because if anything, DH's claim confirms that MJ was an honest, humble, thoughtful & respectful individual who felt the need to acknowledge any similarities between "I Can't Go For That" and "Billie Jean" to DH the first chance he had when they were in studio together -- which is synonymous to an apology and actually speaks very highly of Michael Jackson perfectly corroborating his character, which is the same one displayed in many, many Michael Jackson interviews over the years. It is perfectly in-line with the way Michael Jackson has conducted himself in the past. No reason to be suspicious that DH was attempting any character assassination on MJ here WHAT SO EVER!

Sem, I really don't see any point to your first rebuttal comment or any of your comments after that. You are purely speculating and in the process suggesting Daryl Hall is lying while John Oats is compliment with those lies. Not to mention anyone else who was at the studio at the time that might confirm the story if asked to recall the session. Again, you say that you're not saying Daryl Hall is lying, but then you're suggesting he's lying because MJ never confirmed the story and there's no recording of the conversation? And how do you also know that MJ never acknowledged and/or apologized to Anderson, Vangelis, or even Donna Summer for that matter in the same informal way that he did with Daryl Hall? You don't know that he didn't. So, let me get this straight; according to you're brand of reason, everything that anyone has ever said that Michael Jackson said is a lie because MJ is not on tape saying it and he never confirmed it? It makes even less sense that DH would lie about this being that he never did, and never will need anything from MJ including an informal compliment/acknowledgment at some studio session. He would be risking his reputation by lying about such a beloved, high profile popular artist like Michael Jackson -- he would have way too much to lose.

So now you're suggesting that DH lied about MJ because anyone would believe anything negative about him. Only problem is that DH's story actually makes MJ look good & humble, not bad. Let's apply the same logic to the Jones/Anderson conversation. So how do you know for sure that Quincy Jones said what he said to Jon Anderson? Is there a tape of the conversation? Maybe they're both lying because they know anyone will believe anything negative about MJ. Also, while the bass-lines are identical only different tempos, it could have been a subconscious ripoff. I've written many songs that sound nearly identical to other stuff. Not because I purposely set out to steal someone else's material, but because it was stored in my memory and eventually came out in a different form. And again, how would you know MJ didn't do the same with Summer or anyone else even remotely involved with State of Independence? They were all huge stars, I'm sure they ran into each other at various events and were probably friends. It's perfectly reasonable to suggest that MJ mentioned the same to Summer since she had success with the track. She didn't need to have written the song for it to come up in conversation. True, some high profile people might lie about MJ for whatever reason, I'll give you that. But I see no reason to believe DH lied about anything here. My original point still applies. You're calling Daryl Hall a lair through pure speculation. Now please go away. I have to go to the bathroom.

Another thing is, we only know the finished song. When MJ was writing Billie Jean, at first, it may have sounded more like I Can't Go For That, but he tweaked the song to the point that it sounded very different in the end. And maybe in the back of MJ's mind, he can still hear the similarity, hence the conversation he had with Darryl.

Not quite...if the person who you are 'inspired' by didn't exist, then your song wouldn't either.

well he did steal yours, thats why crap spills out of your mouth

Michael did steal writing credits from everybody u could ask his producer who just came out last week saying the same thing. He was a fraud out of ideas

They were certainly a bit more gracious than Quincy, still much respect to Quincy.

Exactly their point.