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The SONY A7s3 Test: I Was SHOCKED by the S-CINETONE vs sLOG3 Results

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Sean De Wispelaere

Sean De Wispelaere

Күн бұрын

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@TommyCallaway
@TommyCallaway 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos bro. Keep the 🔥coming, and thanks for the shoutout!
@cogmission1
@cogmission1 3 жыл бұрын
I like to see the "Town Criers" working together; each have their specialties, vibe, and speak to different audiences and concerns. Awesome way to represent us humans guys!
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Huge compliment coming from you, Tommy - thank you. p.s. Everyone needs those LUTs...
@cogmission1
@cogmission1 3 жыл бұрын
@Gideon Alvaro Nobody's interested in your malware... Go away?
@CarlBergsdorf
@CarlBergsdorf 3 жыл бұрын
Dude your studio setup is so clean, I love it!
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Carl - I'm sure I'll change it at some point but very happy at the moment
@phucmapvlog
@phucmapvlog 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the comparison/surprise at the end. Cine2 was my go-to on the a6600, but having just picked up the a7siii, it’s time to try these out!
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 2 жыл бұрын
Let me know how you get on!
@viktrFBdobrev
@viktrFBdobrev 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, put your luts into the creative tab and after that correct the shadows and highlights and other stuff before the lut from the Basic Correction tab. The important thing in the creative tab is that you have control over the intensity of the lut.
@mustafabahsheemy
@mustafabahsheemy Жыл бұрын
Again the video I was looking for! Great job as always, and you were right, now the skin tone is better 👋
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere Жыл бұрын
Boom - always improving
@tuwhitcombe
@tuwhitcombe 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff man... one suggestion, maybe some outdoor test shots in the real world without the studio lighting etc. Keep up the good work
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - I'll have some outdoor stuff at some point. I ran s-cinetone tests outdoors and found that I prefer the same exposure settings for what it's worth. Thanks for the suggestion and for checking out the channel!
@camgregg9971
@camgregg9971 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the 7siii vids this year! Your content has been so helpful and insightful, keep it up my guy!!!
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Gregg, this comment came at the perfect time. THANK YOU.
@LoganKingMedia
@LoganKingMedia 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing production quality and content, super helpful!
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Made my day, Logan
@EWhitehouse
@EWhitehouse 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these videos Sean, I’m learning a ton from you brother! 🙌🏼
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
That's dope, Edward - very glad to hear it
@MelvinDlaCruz
@MelvinDlaCruz 2 жыл бұрын
cinetone look more natural, more cinematix
@ramonbannister9498
@ramonbannister9498 3 жыл бұрын
Nice surprise ending! I was wondering what you did w/ Cine2. In your examples, I thought SLOG3 had the best color. I noticed a background light on screen-right was more noticeable. Consequently, I liked the SLOG3 the best. But I understand your choice of Cine2. Good video.
@bijhanshariff2537
@bijhanshariff2537 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sean, just want to say I love your stuff man! Even at a beginner level I'm picking it up and you're helping me understand some pretty technical concepts. Thanks a ton and keep them coming! I feel like I'm an early subscriber to something big! Cheers.
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what’s up, Naayel! Very happy to hear that I’ve been able to help. You’ve got this 🤙💯
@HiddenOaksMedia
@HiddenOaksMedia 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone agrees this is the cleanest talking head shot ever. Subbed
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to have ya, Ben! Appreciate that 👊
@philippblank
@philippblank 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched soooo many videos on this, I did not expect walking away from this and seriously considering cine2 lol. thanks for sharing, great video!
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Phisuals (cool name by the way 😉) - thank you and I am addicted to Cine2 and don't know why it isn't more popular.
@priyam66
@priyam66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother...please keep imparting your knowledge..I'll be updating my mark 3 to S-cinetone today..
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Nice - curious on your thoughts once you do
@KenLeota
@KenLeota 3 жыл бұрын
You're gonna grow to be big soon! Got in here before you reach +500k subs before the end of the year.
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
That would be amazing, Ken, and I can't tell ya how much that means to me. Glad you're liking the channel and I appreciate you jumping in early on
@SourcemediaAuVideoProduction
@SourcemediaAuVideoProduction Жыл бұрын
Hey, great Dual Base ISO guide for the A74... THANKS! - Is there one for the FX30?
@TravisVarga
@TravisVarga 3 жыл бұрын
Great video man. Funny / I tend to enjoy PP0 esp for run and gun. After the destruction of internet compression etc, it fits my needs fine. Enjoy s cinetone but after tests with a poll, surprised to see everyone pick the PP0 image over Cinetone! Overall really like all the options we have. It’s such a great beast able to do almost everything you need.
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Travis, what's up?! Glad that no PP is working well for you. I assume the polling was due to the added contrast vs cinetone? I've had similar results with polls where people tend to prefer higher contrasted images.
@TravisVarga
@TravisVarga 3 жыл бұрын
@@seandewispelaere yea, PP0 seems to be a bit more contrast and ‘warmer’ on the color spectrum than Cinetone. I also think it’s preferred by the ‘normies’ lol cause now we are so use to seeing hi-res 4K super vibrant video or ‘iPhone’ footage, which also tends to be warmer and more saturated/contrasty. So I think it’s a overall a style gaining more popularity due to just being more use to and comfortable with it and whatever the general population sees on a daily basis. Great work and please keep it up! I’m getting @geraldundone vibes
@richardshippy2016
@richardshippy2016 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video Sean, very helpful!
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Richard
@chenvisual
@chenvisual 3 жыл бұрын
Love your studio setup and lighting, crispy and clear!
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it - appreciate you stopping by
@SHOTBYLEWWUTITDEW
@SHOTBYLEWWUTITDEW 2 жыл бұрын
What about a7iv? I'm reading different base isos lol some say 125/500 and some said 500/3200? I'm confused as to understanding what's the true base isos for the a7iv for s cinetone.
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't used the a7iv, but from what I've seen online it is 125 and then the second base ISO is 500. Makes sense.
@thomashorvat9730
@thomashorvat9730 3 жыл бұрын
Another great vid brother & congrats on new Subs! No wonder as you're doing amazing work and I'm happy seeing you doing well 👊 Cinetone seams nice and Slog seams like a lot of work, I'll try your variation to see that magic 100%, thanks for doing that research for us 🙏
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Thomas - let me know how it works out for you, please
@thomashorvat9730
@thomashorvat9730 3 жыл бұрын
@@seandewispelaere yes Sir! Today is drone hopefully landing, thanks again brother I'm still in disbelief ❤️
@likebliss
@likebliss 3 жыл бұрын
You ended up clipping your highlights down to about 94 in order to match the SLOG3 to the Cinetone :( I think your understanding of scopes and correction can still be expanded, but damn dude your lighting is ON POINT.
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Still a ways to go - appreciate that!
@ramonRsolorio
@ramonRsolorio 3 жыл бұрын
Your video backdrop aesthetics are unmatched on YT right now🖤🦾
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ramon - that's really cool of you to say
@throwdown515
@throwdown515 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video man. Thanks for doing the legwork on these. Would you be interested in sharing some of your professional A7sIII work? Would love to see it.
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
All of that is coming soon enough - glad you liked this one!
@throwdown515
@throwdown515 3 жыл бұрын
@@seandewispelaere that’s great, I’m looking forward to it. Gotta say, the conclusion of this one took me by surprise. Very interesting indeed...
@BrentRivers
@BrentRivers 3 жыл бұрын
S-cinetone +s-cinetone color +Black Gamma Middle at +5 +Blacks at -5 +Saturation at +3 +Color Depths B +2 G +2 all others stay at zero. Obviously Detail should be dropped some. Produces some great out of camera footage at base iso of 100 and even at base 2000. Exposure for skin at +60 and all other highlights can work off of 109+.
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Brent - I'll give this a shot
@ChrisMizo
@ChrisMizo 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work bro, love the work you do keep going 💪
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
I'm all over it, Chris, and really appreciate the support
@LINGUALEGEND
@LINGUALEGEND 3 жыл бұрын
Man, your picture, sound, editing and animations... so much envy!!! So professional!!!
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you, Jack, it's been quite a journey and still a long way to go The good news is that I'm just getting warmed up ;)
@chadwickeearnest1191
@chadwickeearnest1191 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the hard work! Great videos
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
So much editing! Thanks for this, Chadwicke
@northfarm4816
@northfarm4816 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid Sean! Production quality is impressive with the animations and info cards in the video! Have you noticed any problems matching S-Log to S-Cinetone in regards to the baked images being different? For instance, some kind of compromise for using S-Log to achieve an S-Cinetone look with slightly better dynamic range, perhaps at the expense of the smooth highlight rolloff. Would it usually be possible to replicate as long as the dynamic range is greater? It's a difficult concept for me wrap my mind around still, haha, but it's in theory about being able to make an S-Cinetone LUT for S-Log without compromise. Thanks for your insights in the video! Have a nice day dude.
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
What up, Northfarm?! I think the Phantom LUTs that I was demoing in the video look pretty close to Cinetone? I actually think that Cine2 with s-Cinetone as the color mode produces the best results and a nice blend of dynamic range and ideal skin tones
@HaroonAKR
@HaroonAKR 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Sean! Your picture quality looks absolutely stunning. What fps are you shooting in?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated. Typically 30p (yes, 30p)
@CryptoQuest95
@CryptoQuest95 3 жыл бұрын
And... subscribed.
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
…and made my day 👊💯
@TwoOneSe7en
@TwoOneSe7en 3 жыл бұрын
This is really really good stuff, man. Love the set. Solid video work. Solid graphic work. Good tips and examples. Sub’d.
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that and for subscribing to the channel - happy to have ya!
@BigE
@BigE 3 жыл бұрын
SAME exact situation with me and my black walls. S-cinetone made my in studio shot look more dull and un fulfilling.
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Yea it’s definitely a challenge. I found that being able to shoot with the iso around 320 helps a lot (and good background lights of course) and that profile that I mentioned at the end seems to be the best looking image
@benoneilldp
@benoneilldp 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video man! so helpful
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Very happy to hear that
@msnspy
@msnspy 3 жыл бұрын
Dude the desk setup is smoooth 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks (I just changed it again…)
@SaxSpy
@SaxSpy 3 жыл бұрын
slog3 based on contrast is my guess. i cant get slog3 to look graded
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Solid guess. Really tough frame to compare the 2 - I would have thought the same thing
@Karthik-The-Photographer
@Karthik-The-Photographer 3 жыл бұрын
I love your works this my 3rd video in your channel and I absolutely fully love your works 🤍
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Let's go, Karthik - made my day!
@InfernoBaybeee
@InfernoBaybeee 3 жыл бұрын
I am new to the camera world but I got an a7siii. Lol I've watched a lot of camera reviews and you have explained iso and picture profile easier than anyone has for me. I love how gerald undone color grades and it seems you have the same style. I don't know much about color grading but I will try to follow this and see. I'm using it to vlog, talking head and Skits. So I need to have a quick go to picture profile for talking head and movements in both low light and daylight
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Hey nice - congrats on the new camera. In that case I’d suggest using s-Cinetone and practicing your exposure and white balance. You can get into slog or other custom profiles to work with color grading from there but all of that won’t go well if the exposure or white balance is off. Thanks for checking out the channel
@InfernoBaybeee
@InfernoBaybeee 3 жыл бұрын
@@seandewispelaere thanks for the response. I will definitely do that. Last question, what does it mean to get exposure right? Is that to make sure the nothing is blown out? Details are seen?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Just to follow the zebra levels for the subject that I get into in the video
@bigsavagedaddy5960
@bigsavagedaddy5960 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos bro. Your setup looks clean and simple with great lighting and colors. What are your thoughts on s-cinetone for low light?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks - works well in low light. Similar to no PP in my opinion.
@thefadedfilms
@thefadedfilms 3 жыл бұрын
Loved your attitude man, blessings from India
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🤙
@justinpolaris5324
@justinpolaris5324 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on how you color grade your cine2 profile?? I think it looks by far the best out of the three, the skin tones looks really good.
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Justin, I have exactly that up on the channel (should be down the list somewhere in there) and have been considering doing an update to that video in the near future.
@DJILLEE
@DJILLEE 3 жыл бұрын
2nd iso is just 20x the base iso. Pretty easy to remember that way.
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Dude. That is PERFECT!!! It also means that I went way too hard to explain it haha
@ViktorCepeda
@ViktorCepeda 3 жыл бұрын
Such a clean look man!
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Viktor
@ramonRsolorio
@ramonRsolorio 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely add some more diffusion to that keylight and wrangle your iso in cinetone and up your keylight power
@jorgereyes6828
@jorgereyes6828 3 жыл бұрын
Great video dude, thanks!
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@angelopoulis5825
@angelopoulis5825 2 жыл бұрын
so if i need a little bit more light for s cinetone, and se the iso to 200, or 320 or something..then what? the amount of noise would be like zero noticable , if any..no? base iso just meants it is better to shoot on it, but no big deal if u go 1 stop 2 stops higher lower..no? its like a 3500k camera..how bad would be that be..
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 2 жыл бұрын
200-300 won't produce noise as long as it is exposed and graded well. I'm about to do an update to my SLOG3 video and have a clip in there that was shot at 51,200 ISO and there is noise in that but very minimal after a grade. Thanks for checking out the channel, Angelo!
@angelopoulis5825
@angelopoulis5825 2 жыл бұрын
@@seandewispelaere thanks dude. if it is easy to do maybe throw a quick test of s-cinetone isos, other than base isos, to see if that is gonna have any noise. saying this cause it has less wide range than s-log3... and it would be challenging to see it. slog3 i assume can handle it well, it wont be a big surprise the result. thanks!\
@FreeRenaissance369
@FreeRenaissance369 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the Video Sean. Quick question about the A7S III firmware update. Does it automatically add on the 1/48 shutter speed or will I need to download the separate DCI license to get 1/48 to work?
@PoetryFilms
@PoetryFilms Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I've come back to this video after a year or more to consider again the differences between sLog and S-Cinetone, and, of course, your modified version of the latter. But one question strikes me now, about 'base' ISO. When you demonstrate how the noise vanishes in sLog at 12800, the noise seems still to be pretty well controlled at a stop higher also, certainly in comparison to how it looked at a stop lower (i.e., 10000). Does the stop above the higher 'base' ISOs benefit in some way from proximity to them, or is this just an accident of this particular picture profile? I hope I'm making that question clear! Many thanks again, either way, for a very helpful video
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly how it works, yes 💯 Glad this helped, Pat
@chapter-verse
@chapter-verse 3 жыл бұрын
Great video again. How are you grading your Cine2/S cinetone profile? With a LUT or custom grade?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, I'm thinking that I should do a video on this specifically....thoughts?
@Karthik-The-Photographer
@Karthik-The-Photographer 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the Dual ISO setting's explanation but when it hit 51200 it introduced a lot of noise right ? So I wonder how some people shoot and process it even at the max ISO 409600 !!!
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
I'd agree with that and rarely shoot over 51,200
@Karthik-The-Photographer
@Karthik-The-Photographer 3 жыл бұрын
@@seandewispelaere Thanks for the reply !!!
@kay__519
@kay__519 3 жыл бұрын
It still looks too sharp
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
😢
@nibiruentertainment8974
@nibiruentertainment8974 3 жыл бұрын
Very good, thank you!
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Glad that it landed well for you - thanks!
@KevinZJR
@KevinZJR 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing! I have one question: Is cine2 gamma compatible with s-cinetone color mode theoretically? I thought that a certain gamma is designed to be used in combination with its corresponding color mode?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Kevin - I don't know of Sony would support the picture profile tweaks that I made and in theory, yes, certain gammas are designed to correspond to certain color modes. That said, during my tests, I found that Cine2 with S-cinetone was landing well for what I'm shooting and the result that I'm getting. Definitely not recommending it to anyone, but it is what I'll be running with for the time being.
@KevinZJR
@KevinZJR 3 жыл бұрын
@@seandewispelaere Man I've tested your Cine2+S-Cinetone setting on my A7S3, it works so great!! Definitely the best setting, great color, works out of the box, removes all the weirdness of the S-Cinetone gamma.
@KevinZJR
@KevinZJR 3 жыл бұрын
@@seandewispelaere So here comes the old question: How to expose under this setting, what's the best IRE range for skin tone?
@encoremultimedia3511
@encoremultimedia3511 2 жыл бұрын
What happens at 13:44 in the video? It suddenly gets lighter like the gamma was lifted, then it seems to fade back to the original look at 13:51 or so. I that your new look because you said you'd, pop it on" of something else?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 2 жыл бұрын
Hey - that was directly OOC before the grade was applied. Thanks for checking out the video.
@christopheratteridge7289
@christopheratteridge7289 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff! If you were to use a diffusion filter like black pro mist 1/8 would you still drop the detail to -2 or leave it at 0?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
I use that exact filter and keep it at -2
@jk4k989
@jk4k989 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Thank you!!!
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated
@Mirandagodd
@Mirandagodd 27 күн бұрын
What are the Native ISO i can use when using cine2/s cinetone on A7siii?
@runehiby1187
@runehiby1187 Жыл бұрын
How did you grade it/fix it up afterwards? Looked easy? Sorry. New to this. I think the cine2 footage was amazing. Exact look im after
@capturedbyfabian
@capturedbyfabian 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact: my Sony A1 pp11 (S-Cinetone) comes preset to detail -5
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, Fabian, and enjoy that a1 👀💯
@OsiasBoyd
@OsiasBoyd 3 жыл бұрын
S cinetone has some green tint to it, seems like slog 3 wins in this one
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Slog3 is a beast 🤙
@papapech
@papapech 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t Slog3 in P8?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
It can be put in any of the PP containers
@kkdkutler
@kkdkutler 3 жыл бұрын
Thinks to self- why not just use HLG3?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
What's up Kanoa, I've been putting a strong effort with HLG since I got the a73 a few years ago and am typically let down by the result. I've seen incredible footage with it, but it's not for me at the moment. Thanks for checking out the video.
@mcrae2606
@mcrae2606 3 жыл бұрын
how about S-log3 Gamma + S-Cinetone Color Mode?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
I don't love it. Tried it a lot and landed on Cine2 and S-cinetone as the best combo.
@bettadenu7
@bettadenu7 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if you buy the phantom luts if it’s compatible with any editing program ? I use Vegas pro 19
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure...
@PatrickMC
@PatrickMC 2 жыл бұрын
S cinetone still seems to have the slight Sony green skintone straight out of camera. But not as bad as previous cameras/profiles. I think your Combo actually has the best skintones.
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Patrick. I recently started dropping the black level to -3 and have been liking that as well.
@huntgoodstuff
@huntgoodstuff 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’m new to this world but have a A7siii. If I’m going to a sunny tropical island will S-cinetone work for me?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Yo, Bryan, that's awesome - welcome to the s3 squad. It definitely will and will be a good option if you're getting used to the video world. I'd encourage you to check out my "Exposing with Zebras" video and stick to exposing the values to the chart.
@huntgoodstuff
@huntgoodstuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@seandewispelaere Appreciate you... keep crushing it!
@Rahulk03
@Rahulk03 3 жыл бұрын
When you say "Expose to 65% and you set the lower limit to 65. Does that mean that after we set it to 65, we have to wait until we see the Zebras to know that we have exposed it correctly?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Rahul, check out my SLOG3 video that was posted a few months ago. It will walk you through this process.
@Rahulk03
@Rahulk03 3 жыл бұрын
I had already seen that video prior to this but it still did not answer the question. In simple terms, how to know or understand that I have exposed it to 60% or 90% in the camera?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rahulk03 ok yea just set your zebra levels, make sure the zebra display is on, then increase your exposure until the zebras start to appear…and that’s it. It will take some practice, but you’ll get the hang of it
@Rahulk03
@Rahulk03 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@pablovi77
@pablovi77 3 жыл бұрын
S cinetone is not exposed correctly. The shiniest parts of your skin are overexposed and you shirt as well on some parts.
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, have made some tweaks, and am planning an update to this video soon. Thanks for the note, Pablo
@kevinjack5184
@kevinjack5184 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think you'd bring the detail down if you recorded landscapes?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Good point - I'd keep it at "0" for landscapes
@UncleOdd
@UncleOdd 3 жыл бұрын
Ima say s-log + cinetone .... I guess we will see
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Great guess, Marvin! Close...but no cigar :)
@kevinjack5184
@kevinjack5184 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt you'll leave slog3 as you don't seem to mind post processing
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
👀
@ASUNOFASUN
@ASUNOFASUN 3 жыл бұрын
My guess is s-cinetone
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Don't punch me.
@terryanthony5323
@terryanthony5323 11 ай бұрын
Are you using these settings on the ZV-E1?
@ngjtv4999
@ngjtv4999 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sean, from your video you mentioned s-cinetone with creative look! Can you use s-cinetone with creative look on a7s3 or fx3? I though it can only use either PP or Creative look... Please let me know!
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
PP only 🤙
@lvminh
@lvminh 3 жыл бұрын
guess: Slog3 with S-cinetone color space. Yeah?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Negative, but good guess
@user-bj5gr8ug9s
@user-bj5gr8ug9s 3 жыл бұрын
Are you overexp +1.7-2 in s log3 with Phantom luts?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
No, I think I mentioned the exposure settings in the video though. Thanks for checking it out
@kevinjack5184
@kevinjack5184 3 жыл бұрын
Phantom LUTS, what happened to the Leeming LUTS?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still a big fan of the Leeming LUTs and use them. I found the "Neutral" Phantom LUTs to be a lot closer to to s-Cinetone and figured it'd be good to use in the context of this video
@Johanpg27
@Johanpg27 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sean, I didn't see the DUAL ISO Values for S-CINETONE on your table, would it be then that only ISO 100 is 'native' is that PP ? Great Work BTW!
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Johan, yes, that was a miss on my end. 100 and 2,000 for cinetone
@TravelleMcManus
@TravelleMcManus 3 жыл бұрын
I am going to take a wild guess (only 1 minute in the video) and say you're filming in S-cinetone.
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
👀👀👀
@TravelleMcManus
@TravelleMcManus 3 жыл бұрын
@@seandewispelaere Yo! (I'm commenting here to prevent spoilers haha) that is dope what you did there! I came across the same problems as you where I love how easy, simple, and clean S-cinetone is and I think for youtube videos where I want a quick edit, I'll send it out there. Also filmed it with a dance team where we were dealing with inconsistent lighting the whole time and it would leave weird color of skin, so that would be another time to use it. Where as in daylight where I film a ton of weddings, I used it on a improv shoot with some friends outside and it just didn't hold up as well and I love the creative color freedom I have with Slog-3 in those type of videos. I'll test out your custom made profile for sure! Great content man!
@justinsiebert6952
@justinsiebert6952 3 жыл бұрын
Why did you leave the M1?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't deal with the lack of Pr Pro functionality so I went back to the '19 MPB for the time being
@VastgoedStudios
@VastgoedStudios 3 жыл бұрын
De Wispelaere, Flemish roots?
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely. My family is from Mele, I believe. Good eye!
@VastgoedStudios
@VastgoedStudios 3 жыл бұрын
@@seandewispelaere i'm flemish ;) I think its Melle, double L
@shearcreatif
@shearcreatif 3 жыл бұрын
yea fuck the fan noise.... 5k and its louder than my dryer
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 2 жыл бұрын
MUCH better on the new ones!
@ericjoseph3468
@ericjoseph3468 3 жыл бұрын
S - Cinetone
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
Don't punch me.
@Pfagnan
@Pfagnan Жыл бұрын
Ha ha! It’s obvious you didn’t give S-Cinetone a fair shake and couldn’t wait to play around with all those bullshit phantom luts. Not at all a fair objective comparison so why bother then . I have seen several great videos on S-Cinetone that did it justice. Shooting at ISO 100 and dimming your light down to 11% and then being disappointed with the result really??? Many experiences videographers rave about S-Cinetone but they did their research and experimented with it over some time not 10 min like you. I USE S-CINETONE A LOT AND HERE’S WHY: Cinematic look right out of the box! S-CINETONE was first released in the Sony FX9. A high end video camera and was used to model the colors from the Sony VENICE which is Sony’s premiere cinema camera. It has less dynamic range than the SLOG variants but also comes with a much lower noise floor, stronger contrast in the shadows with a more forgiving curve in the highlights. S-CINETONE is designed to be a perfect happy medium. Don’t worry. SLOG2 and SLOG3 are not going anywhere because when shooting on larger productions, series projects, etc, you will want the most flexibility over your image. Even if that means spending the needed extra hours dealing with noise, massaging colors in place, and creating a “look” rather than the built in Sony Venice look and feel. Sony took the characteristics of s709 and created S-Cinetone, which provides images with a more cinematic look in tone and color for the video world than Rec.709. There really is no clear winner when it comes to Sony SLOG3 vs. S-CINETONE. It’s up to the user and what the shooter is after for their creative process. S-CINETONE for a faster, pleasing and more efficient experience, and SLOG3 for the best results possible although quite time consuming.
@mpmedia9070
@mpmedia9070 3 жыл бұрын
💯
@eastcoastsailingcenter7768
@eastcoastsailingcenter7768 3 жыл бұрын
bro , your stubs is causing moire to my poor eyes
@seandewispelaere
@seandewispelaere 3 жыл бұрын
😶
@LeeChaiHee
@LeeChaiHee 3 жыл бұрын
slog technology will die soon, color look grey!!!!
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