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The Spiritual Gift of Prophecy: Questions and Objections --- Sam Storms

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It's hard to find a more controversial spiritual gift than prophecy. There is a sense in which it has become the focal point of debate among Christians who differ on the perpetuation and validity of spiritual gifts today.
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@Touch_Of_Sno
@Touch_Of_Sno 10 ай бұрын
Reading these comments I realize many aren't familiar with their Bible and the gifts we are given by the anointing of the Holy Spirit. I have had many dreams and visions that did come to pass. I give all credit to God's Grace and Gifts He's trusted me with.
@mrunknown6842
@mrunknown6842 6 ай бұрын
I've been having many of these things too recently, just getting random prophecies or having visions that have been coming true, it really is the last days.
@Denise-ob8dk
@Denise-ob8dk 5 ай бұрын
Amen!
@katythepsychiclady2342
@katythepsychiclady2342 Ай бұрын
AMEN
@gabrielgonzalez1748
@gabrielgonzalez1748 2 жыл бұрын
That prophecy is a gift that is misappropriated or abused or is used to puff up the individual is not a good reason to say it must not be a gift in this present age. Nearly every spiritual gift has been in one way or another misappropriated-teaching (false teachers), acts of service (to exalt self), giving, etc. I don’t think anybody would argue those gifts have not continued to this day. The Spirit apportions various gifts for the common good of the body (1 Corinthians 12:7) so the gift does not have to be “normative” to have continued to this day. I don’t think any spiritual gift discussed in the New Testament was contemplated as being possessed by every Christian and we know that they are not. I don’t think any of the arguments here are so persuasive as to overcome what is clearly expressed in numerous passages in the New Testament in which prophecy is specifically mentioned as one of various gifts apportioned amongst members of the church.
@LindaGail2
@LindaGail2 7 ай бұрын
Either you believe it is a gift..or you don't. Every morning God gives His gift of Grace and Mercy to All.
@maximusgay127
@maximusgay127 2 жыл бұрын
If prophecy is a gift, how can it it be called as a gift, if prophecy becomes a normative experience for all believers in this present age? If everyone has this gift, then it can't be called as gift.
@ravikeller9626
@ravikeller9626 2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. Eternal life is called a “gift” in Romans 6:23 and that’s normative for all believers too.
@maximusgay127
@maximusgay127 2 жыл бұрын
@@ravikeller9626 How sure can you say all apostles had gift of prophecy?
@rajhansakima
@rajhansakima Жыл бұрын
Because it is of the Holy Spirit, "given" by God.
@CryoftheProphet
@CryoftheProphet Жыл бұрын
Prophets sent by God are not popular people. They are sent to bring a message to turn back, turn from sin, return to the Lord. They are not well received, they dont typically live that long, and God spends a great deal of time preparing them for ministry. That is a marked difference between people claiming to be prophets who tell people things they want to hear, these are false prophets. Christ said "woe to you when people speak well of you, they spoke well of their fathers the false prophets". Look at the people who are prophesying and what people are saying about them.
@madisonwuori5095
@madisonwuori5095 Жыл бұрын
a spiritual gift is something God has given us at birth, we are to want to work towards all gifts but some gifts we have to work for while one or two were just given to us
@spinderellas6272
@spinderellas6272 6 ай бұрын
Isn’t prophesy proclaiming God’s goodness, mercy, etc, NOT soothsaying. People using “ thus says the Lord”, better be quoting scripture and glorifying God. That’s what happened at Pentecost, at least that’s why my Bible says.
@andreakhaleel5409
@andreakhaleel5409 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for breaking it down for us
@katythepsychiclady2342
@katythepsychiclady2342 Ай бұрын
Word
@NicholasPOGM
@NicholasPOGM 5 ай бұрын
The "end of days" actually began at the end of the 2300 year prophecy of Daniel 8:14. We must never give our own opinion on prophecy, for the God of the Bible wrote it and only His Word can define it. Proof? See 2Peter 1:19-21.
@pipinfresh
@pipinfresh Жыл бұрын
The last days cannot mean 2000 years or longer. That makes no sense in the context of scripture or the proper use of language. The last days being referred to was the last days of the old covenant. The 40 year period between Christ's ascension and the destruction of the temple in 70AD. It's the last days of Daniels 70 weeks not the last days of the whole world.
@thepuma77
@thepuma77 2 жыл бұрын
3:11 what evidence or scripture can you use to back up this claim?
@puffythecampfireplayer6143
@puffythecampfireplayer6143 Жыл бұрын
Jesus told us to do what he did. Read the whole book of Acts if you’re uncertain of what the modern church should look like.
@millball
@millball 10 ай бұрын
I thought the last days were that of the Old Testament economy: temple, National ethnic people of God etc. & NOT the interim between 1st & 2nd advent. The reason for the spirits outpouring was to demarcate the new people of God. Evidence the old was put away and after the foundation of Christ & apostles were lain, the sign gifts were eventually ended.
@bible1st
@bible1st 3 ай бұрын
Prophecy is certainly real, I can go to the scriptures and expound upon prophecies right now. I can show you prophecies from old I can show you prophecies happening in your world today. To me this is how prophecy works, today and also in the Bible. It is a person with the knowledge of God's word and the ability to be able to go to God's word and expound and elaborate on the prophecies written in it.
@porchlights2268
@porchlights2268 Жыл бұрын
Hi, just adding a few (long) thoughts to this short video. What took place at Pentecost was a fulfillment of the prophecy in Joel as Sam Storms explained,, and this prophecy was given to Israel, both the House of Judah and the House of Israel and IF they would believe in Jesus as their Messiah and coming King who promised to set up His Kingdom, which WAS at hand, they would, as a believing nation be filled with the the Holy Spirit as promised in Ezekiel 36, Jeremiah 31. As a coming Kingdom of priests and in order to enter the Kingdom, they needed to be whole physically ( healed), washed in baptism, born again, and filled with the power of Holy Spirit so that they could obey the Law....which Jesus, as King will proclaim in the Millennial Kingdom ( Isaiah 2). Pentecost was the fulfillment which gave them the power to be whom God prophesied for them to be....a light to the nations. It also gave them power to perform miracles, signs, drink any deadly thing, pickup serpents, heal the sick ( Mark 16 )etc.. to prepare them to enter the coming tribulation ( Matt 24, Luke 21, Daniels 70th week, the time of Jacob's trouble). However, the Kingdom did not arrive! The Great Tribulation did not happen! Except for a remnant who believed, Israel as a whole did not believe as they rejected Jesus and then rejected the gift of the Holy Spirit when they stoned Stephen. Israel fell and ever since is in a state of blindness and hardening (Romans 11)....UNTIL the full number of Gentiles comes in! After the stoning of Stephen, the resurrected, glorified Jesus Christ, revealed the mystery of the Body of Christ to Paul. A mystery that NO one knew...because it was hid in God since before the world began! ( Ephesians 3:1-12, Colossians 1: 24-29, Galatians 1:11- 2:10). Overtime, the ministry of Peter and the other 11 Apostles diminished, as one can see in the book of Acts....to the point that Paul states in Acts 28:23-28 that salvation would be given to the Gentiles....ever since then, the gifts of the Holy Spirit diminished along with the ministry and proclamation of the Kingdom. It was put on hold. But, one day it will resume as prophesied! In the meantime, we, the Body of Christ, are a new creature in Christ, fully forgiven, justified, sanctified, sealed with the Holy Spirit as a guarantee of the inheritance that awaits us, made fully alive, seated with Christ in heavenly places, blessed with every Spiritual blessing in the heavenly places! The Holy Spirit is within us....we have no need to ask for a fresh infilling or for the Spirit to fall upon us...He resides within us, as does Jesus and God the Father. As the Body of Christ, with Christ as our head, we are encouraged to walk in the Spirit not the flesh, to study the Word and sound doctrine as this will make us complete, equipped for every good work (2 Tim 3 :16-17). It's hard work as Paul describes in 2 Tim 2 and these last days of this age of the Gospel of Grace as revealed, will be very stressful as believers/ Christians will seek after teaching that tickles the ears and no longer is sound in the doctrine revealed to Paul for the Body of Christ today. We have the completed Word of God for the past 2,000 yrs...filled with enough prophecy you can trust from the actual mouth of God! I encourage you, if you have read this far...don't be deceived to believe that any 'man' ( I refer to self proclaimed prophets and apostles in the NAR, charismatic movements of our day) can claim to speak for God above and beyond what is inspired in the Word of God. It will only cause confusion, deception and make your ears itchy!
@MinHong-jl7jc
@MinHong-jl7jc Жыл бұрын
Is there any evangelical book on how to improve on the gift of prophecy? I think there are a lot of books written by super charismatic but I was wondering if there is a theologically sound guide to improve on prophecy.
@darthboromir
@darthboromir 7 ай бұрын
The Gift of Prophecy by Wayne Grudem
@sy8607
@sy8607 2 жыл бұрын
All flesh as in all Israel or all the known world?
@ALLinTHEreflexes
@ALLinTHEreflexes 2 жыл бұрын
What is his argument against the idea that prophecy was an apolstolic gift and isn’t necessary anymore? Doesn’t it say all prophecy is now fulfilled in Gods son? Why would we need prophecy if the Bible is sufficient? Honestly seeking here. Would love feedback.
@almostawalrus
@almostawalrus 2 жыл бұрын
I think there’s a difference between the fulfilled prophecies in scripture (save Revelation & those that pertain to the end times) and the prophecy that Paul says is for peoples’ “upbuilding and encouragement and consolation.” In 1 Corinthians 14. Im only just starting to study the gift of prophecy but from that chapter is seems very clear that this gift of prophecy is meant to be a part of church gatherings. I think it is erroneous to conclude that it is no longer necessary. Nowhere does Paul say “for this time only. “ it’s an entirely extra-biblical argument. That doesn’t hold up. 1 cor. 14:23-25 shows a purpose for prophecy other than predicting the future.
@septemberbabydoll
@septemberbabydoll 6 ай бұрын
We don’t need it! The Canon is closed and GOD said (paraphrasing) anyone adding to His Word , let them be damned.
@Scantbracelet
@Scantbracelet 7 ай бұрын
Then why haven’t we seen it in the last 2000 years?
@brotherarn
@brotherarn 2 жыл бұрын
You're making a lot of assertions here
@shanedarden5238
@shanedarden5238 2 жыл бұрын
Yes he is
@porchlights2268
@porchlights2268 Жыл бұрын
Yes he is....and unfortunately what he has to say is adding to the confusion of the Body of Christ
@katythepsychiclady2342
@katythepsychiclady2342 11 ай бұрын
I am a practicing psychic, medium, have the gift of telekinesis, remote viewing and many other gifts. I thank God EVERYDAY for my gifts, i will continue to help people for as long as i can🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 I also have the gift of Prophecy I just don't like to call it that because I am not a prophet, like I said my mission here on Earth is to help people, I cannot help that other people are small-minded and ignorant
@musicandmania
@musicandmania 2 ай бұрын
Oh, thank you so much for sharing. I get so much negativity thrown onto me because I am a practicing psychic and medium with many other gifts and gift of prophecy, I was given these as my calling in the Kingdom and I am a Christian; I will never stop preaching and never stop praising my devotion to Yeshua. Very few people understand.
@rebeccae9012
@rebeccae9012 2 ай бұрын
I say this in love and in truth. Divination in any form is considered sinful. It should not be viewed as an alternative source of wisdom. Christians are advised to steer clear of practices associated with divination, such as fortune-telling, astrology, witchcraft, tarot cards, necromancy, and spell-casting. The spiritual realm is acknowledged as real, but it is not benign. According to Scripture, spirits other than the Holy Spirit or angels are categorized as evil spirits.
@musicandmania
@musicandmania 2 ай бұрын
@@rebeccae9012 in my above statement I didn't mention any of those things. I mentioned that I have gifts (and we don't have "proper" names for them, but "psychic" and "medium" are very vague ways to wrap up the same thing that most Christians do practice when they are working with these things in the name of Jesus). I will never stop thanking and praising for the healing I was given and the healing I've helped people find by being the helper to the Kingdom. I appreciate your concern to be so quick to correct but I promise, there are a lot of people out there working for the good side that are maybe just covered up by the way that sinful practices have poisoned the true works of what we're all supposed to be able to embrace. The book of Acts is full of a lot of this stuff, just like 1/3 of the Old Testament is. I'm sorry that a lack of better terminology limits perspective.
@katythepsychiclady2342
@katythepsychiclady2342 Ай бұрын
@@musicandmania amen girl!!! And also Rebecca I was born with these gifts it has nothing to do with evil, what do you think about moses? What do you think about noah? How did they know anything?? I also have the gift of Prophecy, I just don't like to call it that I do not need to explain this to you, what I do helps people. It's people like you out in the world who act like they are concerned, when in reality you don't give a damn about my soul or her soul!! you're only worried about your own, which you should be because when we stand before God we are by ourselves!!!! and like she said, thank you for your "concern" I will do my job on this earth, and you do yours ❤️⭐️🙏
@katythepsychiclady2342
@katythepsychiclady2342 Ай бұрын
@@musicandmania I'm good for you girl! I think that was beautifully said and I absolutely sit in the same boat as you, but we will ride the Storm Out While others will not because they are the ones being deceived! I'd love to be your friend!
@tomtemple69
@tomtemple69 10 ай бұрын
Ok this is just taking it out of context Read the full prophecy ‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:19‭-‬20‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬ [19] And I will grant wonders in the sky above And signs on the earth below, Blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke. [20] The sun will be turned into darkness And the moon into blood, Before the great and glorious day of the Lord shall come.
@jeffengstrom8657
@jeffengstrom8657 2 жыл бұрын
Prophesying in 1 Cor. 14:1 is not referring to a gift but rather something we all can do. Sam thinks it's something birthed in the imagination and as long as it doesn't appear to be heretical its legitimate. Of course he is wrong on that.
@tomtemple69
@tomtemple69 10 ай бұрын
I love how he takes it out of context The rest of the acts 2 speech is ‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:19‭-‬20‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬ [19] And I will grant wonders in the sky above And signs on the earth below, Blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke. [20] The sun will be turned into darkness And the moon into blood, Before the great and glorious day of the Lord shall come. Yet Sam says that the last days is every day till Jesus comes back He's ignoring context and chopping a prophecy in half Wonder what God would think about a prophet giving part of a message and not the whole thing
@GodsOath_com
@GodsOath_com 2 жыл бұрын
Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.
@CryoftheProphet
@CryoftheProphet Жыл бұрын
Prophets sent by God are not popular people. They are sent to bring a message to turn back, turn from sin, return to the Lord. They are not well received, they dont typically live that long, and God spends a great deal of time preparing them for ministry. That is a marked difference between people claiming to be prophets who tell people things they want to hear, these are false prophets. Christ said "woe to you when people speak well of you, they spoke well of their fathers the false prophets". Look at the people who are prophesying and what people are saying about them.
@katythepsychiclady2342
@katythepsychiclady2342 11 ай бұрын
I'm not sure what Bible your reading
@petercollins7730
@petercollins7730 Жыл бұрын
The main problem with the so-called 'gift of prophecy' is that these prophecies are almost 100% of the time wrong. Even the claimed prophecies of the bible are wrong in the vast majority of cases, even when you zealots try to twist them around like NYC pretzels. Until you can be 100% right, every single time in every detail, then all your 'prophecies' prove is that your magic god doesn't exist.
@petercollins7730
@petercollins7730 11 ай бұрын
@@coachdanferreira I am not required to prove that your little god does not exist. You claim that there is some magic Sky Daddy - you have to prove that. As for prophecies in your bible, the vast majority failed to be fulfilled. Start with your boy jesus assuring everyone that he would return before his followers had died. 2000 years later and still waiting. And if you don't want anyone to challenge your lies, there's a simple solution - don't tell lies. Now, your turn: provide proof that your god exists; then detail how ever single prophecy in your god's "inspired book" has come true. I'll wait.
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