The sticky truth about the Octatrack MKII

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Mattias Holmgren

Mattias Holmgren

Күн бұрын

The Octatrack MKII has been in my studio for over a year now. Will it stay in my studio? Who knows... watch the video and find out my thoughts, pros / cons, like /dislike about the beast sampler Octatrack Mark 2 from Elektron.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro
01:07 Demo Beat with Octatrack Mk2
01:18 What is the Octatrack
01:43 Is the Octatrack hard to learn?
02:02 8x Audio Tracks & Maschines
02:42 Track Main Pages
02:49 LFOs in Octatrack mk2
03:18 Effects of Octatrack
03:58 8x Midi Tracks!
04:35 I/O
05:14 Fader & Scenes
05:54 Scenes Demo
06:40 Cons / Dislikes
07:29 Sticky Buttons?
08:23 Overbridge?
08:59 Battery power?
09:35 Octatrack vs Maschine Plus
11:16 Questions?

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@thomasmattphoto
@thomasmattphoto 9 ай бұрын
"clicky" and "loud" buttons are actually a big plus - very classy I should say :) btw. awesome video, thanks for putting it together, one of the most informative review of OT online right now !
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 9 ай бұрын
Hey Thomas, yeah the button sounds definitely depends on where you jam. ;) I hear some people nag about the midi keyboard / synth key-strike sounds... But those never bothered me. Happy to hear you enjoy my content on the Octatrack mk2. Planning to do some more musical stuff on it soon.
@ministry__of__truth
@ministry__of__truth 6 ай бұрын
I was ashamed when i got my used Virus ti2 polar and find its keyboard so noisy with its shimming keys. I’ve owned several synths which were much more older than Ti2 Polar but all keys worked perfectly without any unexpected sounds - Roland XP-30, Yamaha DX7 II, Yamaha AN1x (missing it so much)... May be it’s because of Japan quality, not sure. As i know Access used Fatar keyboards in their synths, also as many other manufacturers did.
@VinceWallace478
@VinceWallace478 5 ай бұрын
About the stick buttons. I just opened my octa for the first time today after 3 1/2 years. After cleaning it and trying to repair one of the encoders, I screwed the faceplate back on. When screwing the faceplate back on, to stop the buttons from sticking, you need to push it a bit so the buttons align properly. For me that solved the problem. The button was just to close to the faceplate and got stuck on the frame. If that doesn’t work, maybe just use some DeOxit or something similar. That solved the sticky buttons problem for my A4 MK1
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 5 ай бұрын
Great, gonna fiddle a bit to see if I can "unstick" them. Tried cleaning but that didn't help. From what I can understand, it seems the plate is too tight / misfit a micromillimeter. It's understandable this can happen when it's such a tight cut.
@HelicopterRidesForCommunists
@HelicopterRidesForCommunists 10 ай бұрын
The OT is like the one friend of yours from highschool who was awesome and cool and fun to hang out with, but had a lot of deep emotional issues that kept coming up and made them their own worse enemy.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 10 ай бұрын
😄👌
@Radiowias
@Radiowias 8 ай бұрын
@@InTheShadowsOfOnesAndZerossame here lol
@MaxChillin
@MaxChillin 5 ай бұрын
You're describing me and I need to hide now.
@tobiaswinkler6971
@tobiaswinkler6971 3 ай бұрын
Di you need social help?
@LeeDaHitman
@LeeDaHitman 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate this review. this made me realize what i would be getting into if i purchase this device. good job sir
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 10 ай бұрын
My pleasure, it's a very powerful sample mangler! Super fun when you get along with it! ;)
@BobJones-im6rj
@BobJones-im6rj 7 ай бұрын
Its easy to get into the basics... Some of the menu navigation feels a bit odd at first but you soon adapt
@DanizTV
@DanizTV 8 ай бұрын
the sticky truth about Octatrack is that Octatrack is not for everyone.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 8 ай бұрын
Hey Daniz, haha yeah true. I like the OT for creative mangling and fresh beats making.
@its-a-mi
@its-a-mi 6 ай бұрын
It could have been such an amazing device. Almost bought one. Thank You for this.
@samjones3433
@samjones3433 6 ай бұрын
I have never once had a button stick on my octatrack mk1 or mk2 just for the record
@M0nsieurX
@M0nsieurX 5 ай бұрын
@@samjones3433 Same here for the mk1. Total beast! OP is negative about it without really showing all it can do IMOHO.
@gleannmhuire
@gleannmhuire 11 ай бұрын
Excellent piece 👍
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 11 ай бұрын
Yes, thanks! 🙏😄💎
@curtainsinmotion
@curtainsinmotion 10 ай бұрын
I've had mine for about five years now, using it pretty much all the time and never had any issues with sticky buttons.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 10 ай бұрын
Congrats! 👌 guess there are monday units… or Thomann sent me a used unit (which is possible) 😂
@SantiagoGT15
@SantiagoGT15 11 ай бұрын
I’ve heard a lot of people struggle to “get” the Octatrack, it’s easier if you think and approach it like a tracker, some things are just a matter of style for example pickup tracks and parts which are tools but not an integral part of it, you can do a lot with flex tracks and resampling from a master track
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 11 ай бұрын
Yeah it's many different tools in a box. It's also very capable and fun as a looper...with overdubbing. Quick soundscape toolbox!
@KenithCopeland
@KenithCopeland 10 ай бұрын
i find that too many people try to learn the entire machine at once after they get it. big mistake, the machine has so many things it can do you'll want to through the thing in the bin trying to learn it all at once. the best advice to me was to pick one thing or one machine, learn that, pick another, learn that and build on the previous
@channelite
@channelite 10 ай бұрын
Cool video. I have the Digitakt, but have watched alot of Octatrak videos. It does look more complicated, plus it’s expensive too. I like that it has 4 inputs. I wish the Digitakt had four inputs so it could be used as a mixer too.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 10 ай бұрын
Thanks, yeah the Digitakt really falls short of the I/O. Although it can stream all tracks via Overbridge. But it would have been awesome to have stereo samples as well as a way to route audio out and in for external processing (ie send effects). Even the Maschine mk3 has dedicated Line Out.
@whoadog8725
@whoadog8725 11 ай бұрын
It’s really not hard to learn in my opinion. The pickup machines can be a bit confounding due to the button configuration. They would be much easier to use with pedal controls like a Boss Looper.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 11 ай бұрын
After learning many areas like: recorders, file handling, audio editing, overdubbing. Pattern length adjustment (per track), all different trig ”variations”… and parts. No, its quite easy and fun. Still cumbersom compared to Maschine plus/mk3. 😂 still having tons of fun sound mangling with the octatrack. 👌😄
@tezeta3725
@tezeta3725 8 ай бұрын
You can actually use a midi pedal to control the pickup machines btw
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 8 ай бұрын
@tezeta3725 i know and that’s awesome for live looping 👌💪🥁
@acidtechno
@acidtechno 19 күн бұрын
amazing OT despite its querkz
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 14 күн бұрын
awesome!
@hovermotion
@hovermotion 7 ай бұрын
I have never bought Elektron before but it surprises me that their are issues with the buttons as the machine looks well made.. Nice info and vid..
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 7 ай бұрын
Yeah it is well made indeed. Probably just too tight space between the metal and the button on some occasions.
@beatsbyjiro8291
@beatsbyjiro8291 6 ай бұрын
I think once you figure what you really want to do with the OT it becomes simpler, I tried building beats from the ground up on it and hated the process, but then I started chopping up samples and drums and exporting loop stems from the MPC Live or Bitwig and love it that way as it takes the ''beat' in a whole new direction I wouldnt have thought of otherwise.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 6 ай бұрын
Indeed good points. I feel the same way with my approach of the machine. I sample some keyboard parts into it (Summit or OP-1 field) and layer up stuff on the go with live looping stuff and mashup those recordings, its a fun and unexpected journey. 👌🥁
@thejoshuathomas
@thejoshuathomas 11 ай бұрын
I look at the Octatrack how I look at the Roland MC-707, it's a performance based studio in a box, with loads of capability and quite a bit of learning to go along with it. Great bit of kit for those who are more sample based in their approach to beat/song creation. You did a wonderful job of highlighting and demonstrating its major strengths. All the best to you, Mattias.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, 🙏 yeah and for sound design / layering the Octatrack mk2 is a groovy box… once you set up recorders on the tracks… and the pattern lengths etc. Ive had fun working with it as a looper device too, overdubbing and re-timing to loop tempo is great! 👍😃 I’m having a blast designing pads and gritty layered textured on it. Like all instruments it requires time to really vibe with. 🎸😄👌 Never had the MC707, but it looks awesome.
@thejoshuathomas
@thejoshuathomas 11 ай бұрын
@@MattiasHolmgren Those are great insights about some of the more advanced setup options. The 707 is more synth engine leaning in its application, but it does have very similar tools onboard to mangle and perform with. Deep programming is a shared trait.
@StarMaze
@StarMaze 11 ай бұрын
Maschine has indeed a nice and quick workflow. And you can put a lot of effects on it.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 11 ай бұрын
Yeah Ive written many lovely melodies on the Maschine. Super quick composition device with nifty feature set. 👌🥳
@user-fi4yd2kf6g
@user-fi4yd2kf6g 10 ай бұрын
I am a beginner that is hoping to get an Octatrack at some point in the future once I have mastered all the gear that I have now ;-) I find the Digitakt to be relatively easy to use but then everyone keeps telling me that the Octatrack is completely different. Great video!
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 10 ай бұрын
Yeah they really remade the Ui/UX when developing rhe digitakt. Octatrack has deeper features and I really feel its fun to use once I got over the initial hurdles. Digitakt is more direct with its ”sound presets” and simpler interface. But I feel its good to have worked the Digitakt before jumping on the Octa! 👌☕️💎🥳
@michaelk3550
@michaelk3550 9 ай бұрын
You won't regret it, especially having experience with the Digitakt or any other Elektron machine you'll have it down in a day! The octatrack has slowly garnered its own old school MPC cult base. Join our ranks!
@user-fi4yd2kf6g
@user-fi4yd2kf6g 9 ай бұрын
I am afraid I am just not smart enough lol But maybe one day….
@chris.dillon
@chris.dillon 11 ай бұрын
I could probably talk for hours about the OT. That's not to say "wow I'm so smart" but more like "geez, you can't break this thing down and you have to put the time in". My friend asked me about it and I just let him borrow it for a month. :D 8:25 overbridge: What's the future going to be? I only have an old Elektron job post to base this on and wild speculation with a bit of context. I think the next device won't be an OT MKIII. I think it will be a Monomachine type evolution. The original OT authors are not around (in a variety of sometimes sad versions of this word, I'm sorry) and available to work on it. They've hired for Rust. They are probably overhauling the firmware. They need more compute power in the thing which probably means an overhaul if not re-invention. So, I think they will reinvent it, hopefully keeping the spirit of it but renaming it. There are plenty of wishlists and speculation about what this would be so I won't repeat people's dreams here. The current platform is super old and limited, obvious in the CF card, lack of overbridge but also impressively still updated with conditional trigs essentially coming many years after it was invented if you count the MKII as essentially a case and chassis update. I think I have faith in Elektron at the moment. I hope whatever they make replaces the OT in spirit and in function.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely, it's great to see Elektron watch over their products with care. Looking forward to see what the future holds at the Elektron camp!
@Tapepusher
@Tapepusher 10 ай бұрын
I’d take a spruced up digitakt with extra space 🤷🏻‍♂️
@ronancollins3200
@ronancollins3200 10 ай бұрын
I think you're just barely scratching the surface.. The midi sequencing, live resampling and using it like a mixer with the sounds you're creating live is what makes it special and a live performance sampler. It can sequence 8 seperate pieces of gear at the same time whilst recording everything seperatlely, you can flick between the live sounds of your gear and recordings without stopping the sequencer...i.e completely mangle a recording/ then flick back to the live sounds... It's actually incredible
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 10 ай бұрын
Bullseye! yes, one video = scratching surface. Can't show every detail of an advanced device like this in a single video. But more to come. ;) Octatrack mk2 is super awesome for live manging indeed! Totally agree!
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 10 ай бұрын
I'm gonna feature it in a "One synth one song" episode shortly. A new series that I started where I use one device (mostly) to create a piece of music in a single session.
@EVILJAMARR
@EVILJAMARR 9 ай бұрын
I'm curious about how you could record eight instruments at once, but it only has four inputs? If I'm using two stereo sources with the OT, I can only get two sources in. What am I missing?
@ronancollins3200
@ronancollins3200 9 ай бұрын
@@EVILJAMARR yes good point, you can sequence 8 instruments at once. But could actually only record 2 at once into the OT. You could always record all 8 at once into a DAW through an audio interface. I could do 5 at once on my motu mk3..or 10 mono
@souliseum5437
@souliseum5437 8 ай бұрын
So wait… with this unit. Say I plug in my Roland handsomic into one input. And a Yamaha drum machine into a second input. And for shits and giggles another machine intro input 3… I can record all those instruments INTO the octa and use as the samples to lay in the sequencer? Or does it only work with dunking the samples onto the SD card?
@voiceisagun
@voiceisagun 5 ай бұрын
Elektron's workflow is NOT complicated. It just requires a "tweeker" state of mind. If you like sculpting sounds and appreciate to have multiple ways to achieve what you aim, then you'll love it. They are very rewarding instruments. Thanks to the quality of the curcuits, their sound is beautiful. It's the same difference as working with sound banks or creating your own sounds. It's much more complex but not difficult. It's a logical path that requires an effort, just like any other real instrument. And yes the clicky buttons are part of the pleasure too. But in fact, they dislike crumbs and dust.
@marv.mp4714
@marv.mp4714 7 ай бұрын
I love these videos full of critical points. No machine is perfect. Its important know negativities.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 7 ай бұрын
Thank, yeah Octatrack mk2 def has upsides and down-sides. 🥁
@macabre2007
@macabre2007 3 ай бұрын
I love the Octatrack MKII but have 4 hang ups in addition to yours: 1. Limited RAM memory: it should be expanded, or possibly replaced with a solid-state drive for recording, which would allow for longer recording times without worrying about time limits, per track. 2. Use of Compact Flash cards: Previous experiences with a Roland Br600 damaged by a missed notch in Compact Flash card breaking one of the receiver forks makes this a point of concern; so there's a fear of costly repairs if Octatrack experiences the same issue. I'd prefer SD cards as they're more robust and much safer to enter and eject, ideally with capacities like 128GB or 256GB. 3. Audio track limitations: Currently, one audio track must be sacrificed for the master track. I'd like it to allow flexibility in track usage, such as converting MIDI tracks to audio tracks, possibly with options to create up to four master track variations. 4. The octatrack 16bit sound recording, could do with expanding perhaps to the 32bit. I have a Tascam Portacapture x8, if i feed those recordings into the Octatrack it renders them down from 32bit to 16bit.
@MrQmason
@MrQmason 10 ай бұрын
I don't know what they going to put out to replace the Octatrack.....but , with so much time that has passed and seeing what other companies have put on the market as well as request from customers, I believe the next device is going to be a killer..... only time will tell.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 10 ай бұрын
Yeah they have plenty of year experience designing awesome boxes and can draw good design from other more recent products too.
@alb_reuel
@alb_reuel 10 ай бұрын
it will definetely be a bank account killer
@mudsh4rk
@mudsh4rk 10 ай бұрын
I spent a few months trying to get decent at the jaw harp a couple years ago. It is a lt harder than the Octatrack, that's for sure.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 10 ай бұрын
Hehe thats a tough one. 👌🎉
@ulfb5467
@ulfb5467 6 ай бұрын
Hi Mattias, I appreciate your videos. I follow several artists who praise Octatrack for its workflow (techno) and the ability to get results quickly. I prefer to stay in the box and use Bitwig/Reason plugins/Maschine MK3. What I miss is the workflow (I really like the knobs on the Maschine), the sound is no problem. Being able to work effectively with sequencers and sample mangling. Do you have any suggestions, maybe a tip for the next tutorial? Cheers.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 6 ай бұрын
Hi. Thanks for reaching out. Yeah, maybe we could do a video and look on this Bitwig / Maschine combo approach. Good idea! Thanks!
@eyesintheskies
@eyesintheskies 9 ай бұрын
Never had a problem with my analog rytm buttons sticking, and if your digitakts fine, I think it may just be bad luck, hopefully it just needs that button cleaning like you said 👍
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I tried to do some cleaning but I guess it's the front plate that's just too tight.
@eyesintheskies
@eyesintheskies 9 ай бұрын
@@MattiasHolmgren oh dear, perhaps a gentle & delicate sanding or filing of the metal would fix it.
@ministry__of__truth
@ministry__of__truth 6 ай бұрын
I wonder if this issue with sticking buttons is common for all mk2 revisions or just for made in Poland black one?
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 6 ай бұрын
🤷‍♂️
@user-ng9uc3vu3k
@user-ng9uc3vu3k 6 ай бұрын
Nice job, in the preparation of this video, Mattias. Besides the purchase price, .. this device does seem like quite the investment of time, to become functional, with .. just lock all the doors, disconnect your phone, .. and what? come out in 3 months? .. :)
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 6 ай бұрын
Thanks, yeah that’s what I did to learn. 😂 seriously, i spent a few evening. Looking at tutorials and reading manuals is a must to get your hear around. Start small, add functions succesively and you get the flow. 💎🐠😄
@JosuaKarlson
@JosuaKarlson 10 ай бұрын
Had similar experiences with Elektron gear so far regarding the sticky buttons or glitchy encoders…
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 10 ай бұрын
I fixed trigger 1 and 3 now on my Octatrack. Just removed the buttons and cleaned a bit + scraped a bit with a sharp razorblade. 👌😄 My Digitakt has still not had any sticky issues, for a few years now. 🥁
@dudeseriously79
@dudeseriously79 10 ай бұрын
Beat mangling matters
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 10 ай бұрын
Yes it does! 👍🥁
@imcarobello
@imcarobello 10 ай бұрын
Hello, what great videos of yours, thank you for your content. I am from Colombia and I come to your channel to learn. I wanted to ask you if you could suddenly recommend a 61-key Midi Controller that fits well with Logic pro X. Your suggestions would be very helpful to me. Thank you!!!
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 10 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! 🙏☕️ I love to use the Komplete Kontrol S61 mk2. It has a lovely keybed and if you are using some Native Instruments plugins and sounds its amazing! Other than that I also use the Novation Summit. But its a dedicated monster synth in a totally different price ballpark. And you’ve probably seen me swinging a Keystep 37 or even a small M-Audio Keystation mini from time to time. Keystep 37 is a workhorse composing keybed since its such a small formfactor infront of the computer. Happy to have you aboard!👌😄🥁
@imcarobello
@imcarobello 10 ай бұрын
@@MattiasHolmgren 🙌🙌🙌
@lb2696
@lb2696 7 ай бұрын
I have been in attracted to this instrument for years, but never taking the plunge, because I feel like it seems tedious, even though it’s so appealing in a lot of ways
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 7 ай бұрын
Feel ya, if you worked with other more modern devices, like Digitakt, Maschine, MPC the OT is gonna feel cumbersome and awkward, its a time eater but can yield very cool beats if you spend time with it. But IMO you need a ton of that, time. The internal effects are also lends themselves to lofi due to the lofi quality.🥁😄 But if you use the cue out to send to an external hifi effect and return you can get more hifi result.
@dkamhaji
@dkamhaji 26 күн бұрын
Ok - I love my Octatracks - So much that I have 2. one as a performative mixer the other as a performative sampler/sequencer. but I grew up with NI and Maschine in particular. moving into the elektron space is rather new for me - about 2 years or so.. But in my humble opinion - if the Maschine+ can take from the Octatrack's Scenes concept, that would make maschine+ even more interesting. use its touch band like the Octatrack slider, and create this A/B Scenes that can morph any setting in any track from A to B. would that even be possible to implement in that Hardware? Octatrack is coming up on 13 years or something.. way ahead of its time. that said - I think it starts difficult to wrap your head around it, but if you persist and want to learn it - its really not so crazy hard.
@isaac.anthony
@isaac.anthony 11 ай бұрын
The crossfader is def what still makes it stand out compared to anything else on the market. This is the most powerful macro control in any hardware device?
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 11 ай бұрын
Yeah ”one fader does it all” fader, is a loovely feature! Maschine has the touchstrip which is nice but its one parameter (performance fx) at a time. 👌😄☕️
@lying-dalai
@lying-dalai 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. And scenes are relatively fast to setup, which makes the crossfader a bliss even in improvisation sessions.
@koalemos1679
@koalemos1679 10 ай бұрын
Eyyyyy, MKI Gang Gang. My buttons work good 🤷‍♂️
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 10 ай бұрын
Lovely! 🥁💎
@Dewane1511
@Dewane1511 8 ай бұрын
Rumor has the octatrack m3 comes out next year ....
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 8 ай бұрын
That would be something to look forward to. 😅💪
@infriad
@infriad 11 ай бұрын
100% agree that Maschine has a much better workflow. I've owned the octatrack and currently have Digitone and Digitakt which are fun together but there are a lot of hiccups in the workflow that sometimes kills my inspiration. Both Maschine and Synthstrom Deluge is much better in this regard. One thought about the premium Elektron gear.. It looks absolutely awesome in the studio, on the thumbnail or whatever. I really want to make music when I look at these boxes but I would never even consider buying them if they all look like Model Cycles.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 11 ай бұрын
Yeah for general songwriting Maschine is killer! Super fast! The sound mangling on the Octatrack is what makes me keep it. Super fun creating evolving soundworlds on it. Wonder if Maschine will open up to more plugins in a near future!? What do you think? Played with the Deluge a bit at Superbooth but not enough to get a grip on it. Looks fun tough. 👍🥁☕️😄
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 11 ай бұрын
Agree, the design of the Cycles is a bit…confusion. Both color and layout… But it was geared towards another market segmet I guess. 🥁😄
@infriad
@infriad 11 ай бұрын
@@MattiasHolmgren I really hope that NI is working on a updated maschine with better cpu and memory and hopefully they’ll add more advanced vst’s. That would be a dream groovebox 😊
@mike_qbik
@mike_qbik 11 ай бұрын
Deluge is a fantastic piece of gear. With the latest formware 4.1 plus now open source updates which are coming on daily basis make it absolute killer groovebox. Almost unbelievable that both OT and Deluge are that old yet still make people flush. Have bith and you do nit need anything else.
@stereopsis
@stereopsis 7 ай бұрын
Thank you VERY much for this! As someone who loves the Digitakt, I've been trying to find a clear overview of the Octatrack like this for a long time. Also, fuck you, because now I want one 🤣
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 7 ай бұрын
Haha that was beyond good and evil. 👌😂🥁🎅I can admit the Octatrack mk2 get little flipping in my studio past months as I always fall back into producing in the daw. OT just requires so much time and I have so little of that and been spoiled with the accessibility of the TE / Maschine devices. OT is still fun and sounds gritty but, yeah, if I was 20 without family, house and business to take care I would be all over it. That said I have decided OT is gonna be more of a song starter rather than my ”finished song machine”. I’ve got a video coming up on the Syntakt soon. 🤘🎸
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 7 ай бұрын
Digitakt with stereo sampling (and extra I/O) would be a killer.
@stereopsis
@stereopsis 7 ай бұрын
@@MattiasHolmgren That is my dream machine!
@teabreakbeats
@teabreakbeats 3 ай бұрын
my digitakt buttons are getting sticky now! syntkat it getting tacky but not sticking yet.... annoying
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 3 ай бұрын
Oh yeah? Gonna sell my Syntakt, its collecting too much dust.
@kisho2679
@kisho2679 Ай бұрын
is there menu cheat sheet?
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren Ай бұрын
There are some unofficial manuals and cheats sheets. I made a small one for myself in a notebook.
@PORRFNK
@PORRFNK 6 ай бұрын
OT button sound is a big plus, not a downside.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 6 ай бұрын
Yeah in the end everything is relative to the user perspective. 😄🐠
@PORRFNK
@PORRFNK 6 ай бұрын
I come from the C64 days, i love that the buttons can be heard when you click them. I really dont like rubbery buttons that breaks down and yellows, on top of that, its a different type of switch. Had the MD for 15 years and all buttons still work ❤
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 6 ай бұрын
@PORRFNK that’s definitely some serious longivity. 🥁👍
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 6 ай бұрын
@PORRFNK remember the standard IBM keyboard from the 486. Loved it so bad. C64 was also sweet.
@PORRFNK
@PORRFNK 6 ай бұрын
@@MattiasHolmgren I try not to be demeaning in my comments, but sometimes it comes out wrong because it's not my native language. It's definitely a testimony to the longevity of the design of the switches. So what I meant to say is that the rubber buttons sometimes just use a capacitive switch, where as the Elektron is a ball, a spring and a real mechanical switch, this is why they last so long and that it's hard to seal them from grime and your favorite beverage :) Oh yes, those IBM 486 keyboards were great, especially for Mortal Kombat hahaha
@aspasap
@aspasap 6 ай бұрын
I went back to the Digitakt after owning this for a while. It does less but does it well. That's currently back with Elektron because.. Yes, the buttons, several which just stopped working after 14 months of light use. As for the Octa, learning a complicated machine is fine and it can do some great things but it's mainly complicated thanks to a perverse workflow and too many things just aren't that good. FX with way more parameters than you need and unimpressive end results. Horrible reverb. The FX tail cutoff issue is a total pain. There are workarounds but you shouldn't need them when you're spending that much. If they were to bring out a properly reconsidered Mk3 that did things well, then what is a unique instrument would be truly worth the effort.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 6 ай бұрын
Agree it's a really wicked workflow on the Octatrack mk2, and I'm so looking forward to an mk3 model with reworked workflow and more recent cpu to handel better reverb, delays. ;)
@fentanyljones6956
@fentanyljones6956 8 ай бұрын
I miss my mk1 deeply
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 8 ай бұрын
Totally understandable!
@kisho2679
@kisho2679 Ай бұрын
when expect an MK3?
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren Ай бұрын
Hehe I dunno. They just launched the Digitakt 2. 👌😄☕️
@0e0
@0e0 10 ай бұрын
i would even accept 2 channel class compliant audio instead of full blown overbridge
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 10 ай бұрын
Yeah would be sweet!!
@Jefuslives
@Jefuslives 11 ай бұрын
Nice feature set. Not so nice ergonomics. Even so, the interface looks fairly intuitive once apprised of the multi function nature of the buttons.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 11 ай бұрын
Yeah the sky is the limit on the Octatrack once the hurdles are fought. 😄👌🥳
@lebronsinclair8012
@lebronsinclair8012 9 ай бұрын
I've given up on Eletkron. Their machines are creative but unnecessarily nerfed compared to what's coming out. With global parts issues I don't think will get stereo sampler to replace this anytime soon.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 9 ай бұрын
So you use Octatrack mk2 yourself? Or a more recent sampler? Maschine? 😄
@lebronsinclair8012
@lebronsinclair8012 9 ай бұрын
@@MattiasHolmgren Maschine and Polyend Tracker
@drahcirpsy
@drahcirpsy 5 ай бұрын
Use it more, than ist's gone 😀
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 5 ай бұрын
😂💪
@drahcirpsy
@drahcirpsy 5 ай бұрын
​​​😂had it also in my digitakt its gone...over the years@@MattiasHolmgren
@shedarfondu
@shedarfondu 7 ай бұрын
😆 i got the same shitty button on mine
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 7 ай бұрын
Oh yeah? 🎹
@klaun
@klaun 6 ай бұрын
How can you compare a Maschine plus and an Octa?! Doesn't make any sense to me...
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 6 ай бұрын
Both are expensive samplers, loopers 😉 and I get a ton of questions on my thoughts on them. easy. A lot of people appreciate the rundown of features and my insight into these machines. 🎸
@stuartbennett4301
@stuartbennett4301 3 ай бұрын
Never happened to me
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 3 ай бұрын
Great u got a non-monday issue 👌💪🎁
@ChristopherOrth
@ChristopherOrth 11 ай бұрын
The Octatrack benefits from that old thing where people think the harder something is to use the more powerful it must be. And because the Octatrack is a travesty of user interface design, almost nobody actually learns how to truly use it. And really, when you find the edges with this device, does it really shows its age I believe. Sure, those P locks are cool, but most every other device shits all over the Octatrack when it comes down to raw capability. And one can talk highly about the cross fader, but in the end, it’s just a fader turned on its side. You could map any knob or fader to any parameter on any device and end up with the same control capabilities.
@koalemos1679
@koalemos1679 10 ай бұрын
You can map everything to the crossfader and control it all with one move. It’s way better than just a fader on its side, don’t be silly. HOWEVER, the sequencer is nowhere near as good as we pretend. Who makes a paraphonic sequencer? And it can’t do smooth motion record? A damn MC303 does smooth motion control. No delay into reverb on one channel 🙄 monophonic everything? In 2010?!?!?
@Tapepusher
@Tapepusher 10 ай бұрын
What are the capable modern devices you guys are referring to? All those OT limitations are true but I honestly can’t find any device that will loop samples, mangle inputs with fx and sync up nicely with my A4mk2 via program charges… I’m dying to hear any alternatives.
@koalemos1679
@koalemos1679 10 ай бұрын
@@Tapepusher Don’t get me wrong, the OT is amazing. It’s my favorite piece. It’s also out dated and the sequencer is not as good as people pretend. For instance. An MC 303 can’t send CC but it can control up to 8 devices, with polyphony up to 28 notes. That’s 20 more than the OT. The MC 303 can also do patterns up to 32 bars. The Electribe 2 Sampler again doesn’t do CC or looping. It does have more FX to choose from, it can play a sample like 6-8 octaves up and down, and it can do paraphonic playback up to 4 notes on a channel. It’s got a max poly limit of 24 but it’s really 8 after filters and fx. The MPCs do basically everything an OT does minus the crossfader. Hell, a Dj mixer does almost as much as an OT, you just don’t get a sequencer with a DJ mixer. The SP404 mkii does most of what an OT does. Or dare I say it A COMPUTER does more than an OT ever could. I’d still use my OT over most of what I’ve mentioned, I love my Electribe S2 though, but the OT is not perfect and a REAL update would be dope. Except I wouldn’t be able to afford it so I’ll be rocking an mki til I die I guess.
@mresquidgeward5965
@mresquidgeward5965 9 ай бұрын
​@@koalemos1679what a weird take. stopped reading when you said a dj mixer does what an octatrack does minus the sequencer. I dont even own one and I know that is bullshit.
@koalemos1679
@koalemos1679 9 ай бұрын
@@mresquidgeward5965 Yeah, I’m definitely gonna argue with some wannabe nerd over a piece of gear you don’t even own. Shouldn’t you be asking Bob Eats what new FM synth will complete you as a person? Hint, it’s the next one coming out.
@mariusboda
@mariusboda 8 ай бұрын
Powerful, but rubbish buttons and menu navigating is shit, other than that if you have tons of time you can make really good music.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 8 ай бұрын
haha, yeah, you definitely need time to work it. 😄🥁👌
@boombap08
@boombap08 4 ай бұрын
Coming from a digitakt and ableton the menus aren’t that crazy. In fact its pretty straightforward once you understand the layout. They’re are literally like two pages for most sections and the you use func + to access anything with grey writing on it as a secondary function.
@NEStalgia1985
@NEStalgia1985 3 ай бұрын
Seems if you don't get college hands on experience with it youd never buy one
@steun86
@steun86 6 ай бұрын
Obnoxious daw in a hardware case. Could not have said it better myself. I hate the octatrack. I love my octatrack. It's my main groovebox.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 6 ай бұрын
Yeah same def love/hate relationship. Wish they would release one with more recent cpu / dsp power which could grant better internal fx and enhanced / reworked ui/ux.
@CC-fi3pp
@CC-fi3pp 3 ай бұрын
Give me clicky button any day, you hipster.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 3 ай бұрын
😂🤷‍♂️
@KingzofSwing
@KingzofSwing 3 ай бұрын
Overpriced
@offthisworld
@offthisworld 5 ай бұрын
For short, it's a disastrous machine, way too expensive and ridiculously fed to our brains through marketing. I'm gonna stay away from the brand in general, because lets not even talk about their UI.
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