The story about the legendary Nautilus speaker

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Stereopluss

5 ай бұрын

For 30 years Bowers & Wilkins Nautilus speaker has been a style icon. Something totally different. But everything is about sound, tells the designer Laurence Dickie. He now design speakers that use much of the same principle for Vivid Audio.

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@Keksdose2k
@Keksdose2k 5 ай бұрын
A video about one of the most iconic speakers ever made, while the audio is totally deep fried. The irony 💀
@Stereopluss
@Stereopluss 5 ай бұрын
We are sorry for the sound. The mic was to close here. We will do it better next time :)
@Keksdose2k
@Keksdose2k 5 ай бұрын
Nono, I‘m loving it 🫶
@georgsteidl2249
@georgsteidl2249 2 ай бұрын
@@Stereopluss Try Samson ub1 (tested them vs a lot of mics), u will notice the difference (qite straight)
@Stupidlamb2
@Stupidlamb2 5 ай бұрын
Such an honest and expansive explanation. Aesthetics + praticalism. Wonderful engineering. Thanks for a great video!
@Stereopluss
@Stereopluss 5 ай бұрын
Thank you 😊
@JeMiero
@JeMiero 5 ай бұрын
3:05 "Is this a speaker?" "NO THIS IS PATRICK!"
@robertodeoliveira8882
@robertodeoliveira8882 5 ай бұрын
Hello how are you? I was impressed from the first time I saw and heard Nautilus. It's human genius and engineering together for sonic perfection.
@josefserf1926
@josefserf1926 5 ай бұрын
Laurence Dickie may just one day build the best loudspeaker we have yet seen. Good luck to him.
@jesperwall839
@jesperwall839 5 ай бұрын
Mycket trevligt reportage 👍😀
@Stereopluss
@Stereopluss 5 ай бұрын
Tusen takk 😊
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 4 ай бұрын
Speakers make sound. I couldn’t care less how they look. I listen with the honesty of a blind man.
@endrizo
@endrizo 4 ай бұрын
aaa yes, Lawrence. now im hearing with open ears. thanks, please do YG acoustics speakers.
@witzendoz
@witzendoz 5 ай бұрын
I played at a festival in the uk in 2006 that used the PA system in the photos.
@print-master
@print-master 5 ай бұрын
I have had a pair of B&W matrix three since 1987, which I believe correct me if I’m wrong was the beginning of this journey, they still sound as fantastic and true today as they did back then however, I’m sure that overtime my ears would have got used to any changes or Deficiencies . And what would be really nice is to have a view on them and being serviced to make them being as good as they were when they were built, but I don’t know where to go about Achieving this, maybe you have an idea?
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt 5 ай бұрын
They actually were considered lifeless in their day. They had too much matrix construction with foam. Afterwards, B&W reduced the amount of matrix bracing in their subsequent designs.
@print-master
@print-master 5 ай бұрын
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt I get what you say, however, I like the neutrality of the speakers because there is ample room for adding a little colour here and there. B&W probably removed some of the foam because they were extremely expensive to make. I’ve never considered them lifeless. They have been a pleasure to listen to for many years and completely non-fatigue, powerful, deeply involving sound.
@print-master
@print-master 5 ай бұрын
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Interesting point however however , I like the neutrality of the speakers; there is ample room for adding a little colour here and there. B&W also probably removed some of the bracing also because they were extremely expensive to make . They’ve been a pleasure to listen to for many years with their completely non-fatigue, powerful, deeply involving sound.
@BunnyslippersEUC
@BunnyslippersEUC 5 ай бұрын
I thought he looked familiar. I have seen him at the hifi show in Tilburg.
@gerritgovaerts8443
@gerritgovaerts8443 5 ай бұрын
Even assuming that 25 mm throw for the 100 mm driver is combined 2 way excursion , it is still an amazing 12.5 mm Xmax for such a tiny driver . That kind of Xmax is normally only seen in 10 inch and bigger woofers (250 mm and upwards) . A normal 100 mm woofer has an Xmax of just 3 mm .
@einarbk885
@einarbk885 5 ай бұрын
if you throw money at a small driver you can get lower distortion. most people would just increase the size of the cone. also there can be problems with getting long throw woofers to work higher in freq
@sudd3660
@sudd3660 5 ай бұрын
25mm is most likely the xmech, he mention the gap was included. so that is 12mm xmax. same as my 10" subwoofer driver. and about twice i get out of 5" midwoofers on my main speakers.
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt 5 ай бұрын
Contrary to what the designer stated, B&W had a large 6 foot plus Matrix 800 that B&W supplied to studios that had higher sensitivity (94dB) and 800 watt power handling.
@IvanTheUndertaker
@IvanTheUndertaker 5 ай бұрын
Please would you tell us more about this? Thanks
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt 5 ай бұрын
@@IvanTheUndertaker I owned it new in 1991 and you can find a video about someone who currently owns a pair on the Thomas and Stereo channel. It's from a year ago.
@AE90s
@AE90s 5 ай бұрын
I hope you can buy your dream speaker
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 5 ай бұрын
👍
@FVDaudio
@FVDaudio 5 ай бұрын
✨✨👌🏻👌🏻🎶🎶
@Flumphinator
@Flumphinator 5 ай бұрын
Wow audiophiles will buy anything.
@nigeltrigger4499
@nigeltrigger4499 5 ай бұрын
This video is about the Nautilus speaker for only 1m.25s. After that, the narrative switches to focusing on the designer of the Nautilus speakers moving on from a B&W and designing different speakers for Vivid. At the end, the designer talks about monitor speakers with only 4" drivers. He tries to convince the audience into believing that they can reproduce bass frequencies due to their long throw capability, even though it is well known that even long throw small speakers are less capable of producing bass than larger speakers.
@PierreVilleneuve88
@PierreVilleneuve88 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the interview. The gain on his microphone is too high. It is clipping pretty much all the time.
@Stereopluss
@Stereopluss 5 ай бұрын
We placed the mic too close here. Nothing to do in post unfortunally
@CyberneticArgumentCreator
@CyberneticArgumentCreator 5 ай бұрын
@@Stereopluss It's gain staging, not placement.
@Stereopluss
@Stereopluss 5 ай бұрын
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator Both.
@Corpsecrank
@Corpsecrank 5 ай бұрын
Worlds most iconic speaker that I have never heard of... Where them JVC or RCA boxes I'll show you what iconic is LOL
@Terranova911RS
@Terranova911RS 5 ай бұрын
You seem not to be the benchmark, the design and the "form follows function" motto is and was unique.
@Corpsecrank
@Corpsecrank 5 ай бұрын
@@Terranova911RS you seem not to get the joke here...
@SuppressiveSquirrel
@SuppressiveSquirrel 5 ай бұрын
Work of art, but not necessarily a work of audio art.
@Terranova911RS
@Terranova911RS 5 ай бұрын
Best sounding speaker I have ever heard.
@SuppressiveSquirrel
@SuppressiveSquirrel 5 ай бұрын
@@Terranova911RS Audio is subjective. Key here is “ I have ever heard.” I’ll take my Maggie’s or Klipsch over these.
@Terranova911RS
@Terranova911RS 5 ай бұрын
Yes, subjective. I can say that I never heard a Klipsch sounding better than the Nautilus. @@SuppressiveSquirrel
@meghalvasa
@meghalvasa 5 ай бұрын
What use is this video without a demo sample of how it sounds
@Stereopluss
@Stereopluss 5 ай бұрын
I never seen a demo sample on KZfaq that gave me any idea of how the speakers sound. So we don’t do it. But this time, at Bristol HI Fi Show, there were no Nautilus speaker to test at all. I have seen other Nautilus-videoes with sound demo
@meghalvasa
@meghalvasa 5 ай бұрын
@@Stereopluss wow, I didn't expect the video creator to reply to a comment thrown in frustration by a nobody like me. You have made a wonderful video explaining the technical details & wind profiling demos by blowing air in it... It was so nicely explained that after hearing all that, I was dying to hear how all this technology would finally sound when all put together.. after your video I viewed a few other KZfaq recommended videos but none had a sample of how nautilus sounded.. may be I was just going with technology involved recommendations instead I should have searched with some other keyword.. It's my bad, sorry for the rude comment. It was not in scope for your video. ,😊
@Stereopluss
@Stereopluss 5 ай бұрын
@@meghalvasa Don’t think you were rude. I just wanted to explain how we are thinking. For sound demo try this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bK2fe5Z2tbSZc4k.htmlsi=Wd_okrZpN1__P_Di
@meghalvasa
@meghalvasa 5 ай бұрын
@@Stereopluss I saw the same video before you gave the link just by self search. thanks though. I was expecting to hear some music with beats as well to check out clarity & bass. But I didn't find anything. This link just has vocal & piano. Speakers are good but don't sound so extraordinary like the price. I guess you should be very privileged to actually listen to one of the nautilus speakers in real life.
@janisvaskevics93
@janisvaskevics93 5 ай бұрын
The only legendary thing was the legendary price.
@GesetzeMitHerz
@GesetzeMitHerz 5 ай бұрын
The pair of those Nautilus still costs about 100.000 Euros… but the membrans are old and not modernized. It is a pity, the styling is extraordinary
@BrettinLux
@BrettinLux 5 ай бұрын
The drivers have been updated since they were introduced.
@GesetzeMitHerz
@GesetzeMitHerz 5 ай бұрын
@@BrettinLux then they are about at the Niveau of the new 800 Series 2024? Or nearly?
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt 5 ай бұрын
They were only about $40,000 USD when they were new and the membranes were aluminum which isn't exactly like a 1970s paper cone.
@Dutchman536
@Dutchman536 5 ай бұрын
Offcourse it sounds like it's the best , that's the ear piece , but the eye's piece , not really , it will fit in a museum , for music purposes , daring ugly
@MurderBong
@MurderBong 5 ай бұрын
IS THIS ABOUT VIVID OR THE NAUTILUS 😂 WTF.. IM OUT.
@nickcifarelli8887
@nickcifarelli8887 5 ай бұрын
The speakers are hideous. There. I said it. Decades old technology, at an entirely bloated price. I’ll stick with my KEF Reference speakers thanks.
@mrm1885
@mrm1885 5 ай бұрын
Ok
@diegorivera985
@diegorivera985 5 ай бұрын
Common KEF cope
@iborrada
@iborrada 5 ай бұрын
But they sound amazing
@darrenbrians5930
@darrenbrians5930 5 ай бұрын
Bafle is too small. Id rarther a big wooden box. Them speakers won't go below much below 30hz. You won't hear the full range. Side by side it with a pair of ditton 66. With an orchestra. And they will crumble like rivita next to the 66's. That go down to 20hz with ease. And breath easy.
@bakedcreations8985
@bakedcreations8985 5 ай бұрын
It is not expensive enough, it should coast all your savings so you know it sounds good
@brownhues
@brownhues 5 ай бұрын
The audiophile world is so dumb. So much pseudoscience to have speakers that look stupid and sound just OK for way WAY too much money. Reminds me of the $7000 2 meter speaker cables. A sucker is born every minute.
@blakeandtim937
@blakeandtim937 5 ай бұрын
I get how you feel and there is plenty of snake oil out there to lambast and impugn. That said, my favorite amp is around ten grand. My favorite speakers are about seven, turntable at eight, cabling for the whole system around two, steamer and DAC around three. That's a sweet spot for me and my budget. Where performance falls off compared to price. Those companies all treat their people well and pay extremely well. That's part of what I'm buying. Excellent service for all my possible questions. Of course, the sound profile I want. I think, relative to something like the hobby of collecting watches, audio represents a great deal more value in its use. Same for clothes and shoes, of course art is so relative, fine wines, etc. Dubious values and claims but somehow folks really dogpile audio specifically. Folks laud sommeliers with not a second thought. Hi-Fi folks are all essentially the audio version of The Simpson's comic book guy somehow. Not saying I haven't had a lot of twitchy pedantic customers in my time but they really are the exception. Not the rule. Most people spending more than $25k on a system have built it over decades. Flipping, trading up, and reinvesting. A lot of my clientele were maybe barely upper middle class and their money was important to them. I always tried to pretend I was the one laying out the cash to "value check" our build.
@tombaily29
@tombaily29 5 ай бұрын
It looks very stupid honestly
@Alan-Dawson
@Alan-Dawson 5 ай бұрын
Overkill Over art over priced.