2:55 miss those days of Toys R Us during the 90's...large selection of games and the consoles on display in their own plastic shell.

In 1985 my father told me, “You already have an Atari, you’re not getting an Intendo”.

Holy crap, I think we all have heard about the nintendo playstation, but I had never heard of this. Great video!

I'm just envisioning the alternate reality where "Atari" remains the main household name for video games and is the mainstream video game company and I'm getting chills. They were so close

Atari Nintendo Entertainment System. Wow. Would've been cool to own an ANES. Imagine putting cartridges in your ANES and also playing with your ANES or even someone else's ANES.

Another tantalizing trip through early console gaming. Keep this amazing journey going, we're all here for the long haul.

*Have a small correction on the video.* I accidentally used the NES NY trial run for the full launch date. I meant to use the full launch date for both the NES & 7800. The NES full launch only beat the 7800 to market by a few months, which if anything it makes the sales number comparison more jarring in favor of Nintendo. This video is a bit different that others I've done in the past. Instead of covering a console, accessory, game etc. this one is looking at an event that is rarely spoken about or reported on. I had to get creative with the editing (hence the use of original art and animation) to be able to cover everything that happened. Hopefully you guys don't mind the change for this video. Also, I think it's obvious but I should mention that the 4 Atari-NES titles shown are some mock ups I made and not actual titles.

The bit about Satoru Iwata's port of Joust is probably the most fascinating part of this for me. Even if the deal never went through, Nintendo did get something valuable out of it.

Dude I swear Guru Larry pops up everywhere I go.

Seems that once I think I know almost everything about VG history, something like this pops up and surprises me. I never knew there was suppose to be a deal like this between Atari and Nintendo. Very interesting history.

The odd thing about the video game crash is....my friends and i never saw it. We never stopped going to the arcade, we still played atari and intellivision and then i moved on to the sega master system. There was no crash for the kids in my neighborhood. We also played outside too. All we know is that suddenly nintendo and sega appeared.

Reminds me of how Blockbuster handled Netflix. It's crazy how a whole industry can do this to themselves again and again.

I’d have to say that the deal to put Nintendo games on Atari hardware was a 5 year deal as it started with Mario Bros on 2600 in 1983 and the 3 7800 games that came out in 1988. Also interesting that the week Atari showed off the 2800 in Japan they were at N-HQ to negotiate this! Great video. Wish I’d done it!!

Awesome video. I'm glad the Nintendo/Atari deal didn't go through or the video game landscape would have been soo much different and boring! Again great video, you always put so much effort into your videos and it shows in the awesome quality of them, I hope you never stop !

Great job! I loved the ending line too. '1983 is also the year Atari almost had it all'

Goes without saying, an amazing video! Very interesting to see what all it could indeed have been with Atari and Nintendo. Worth the wait to see this video!

I think if the NES was released earlier, under the Atari name. It wouldn't have been as big a success.

I never would've guessed The Dong himself would be behind the loss of a historic deal. Great show!

The editing on this video was extremely well done! Really enjoyed watching it, and learned a lot - i had no idea there ever was a deal of that type between Nintendo & Atari

I never realized how much Howard Lincoln sounds like me :D

Incredibly well produced and edited. Alexis' artwork was amazing.

This whole video is very well done. The graphics, narration and editing are top notch. If I saw this on the Science or Discovery channel in between How It's Made and Mythbusters it wouldn't seem out of place.

I intentionally go out of my way to only watch your vids on my new big 4K TV! That’s how much I enjoy your videos. Only way to do your work service and fully enjoy it. Thanks so much for your vids!

I was hyped for this, and you delivered. Excellent video!

awesome docu! Excellent content. Bravo from France!

Every time I've spoke of another enticing episode , masterfully done. And you still deliver time again.well done applause all around.

Wow I can't believe how much better the production of your videos have gotten since the first one. Keep it up!

This is the video I've been waiting for! I remember reading about the possible collaboration between Atari and Nintendo and you did a good job filling in the specific details of the story. Thank you!

A few corrections: The Atari 7800 was briefly test-marketed in New York and southern California in 1984 before Jack Tramiel came in and shelved it. Also the NES wasn't released nationwide in the USA until September 1986 -- the same time as the Sega Master System -- whereas the Atari 7800 was released nationwide in May 1986. The much-ballyhooed North American release of the NES in October 1985 was actually just test-marketing of 100,000 units in New York.

Super impressed with this topic and the detail in which you covered it in. Very good video. You've got a Sub and looking forward to watching more of your videos.

Been going through each of your videos, love the information, the history and the facts. Keep it up man, looking forward to tons more.

Your best work yet. Great story and the production value is awesome!

another great documentary! I just have one complaint. When is the next video coming? lol! Keep up the good work!

Really nice job coving a topic no one else has discussed. Honestly, Atari was so awful this was the best possible outcome. It would have been nothing but bad news if Atari was able to close this deal or the one they were negotiating for Sega's Genesis. They would have screwed up these consoles like they screwed up everything making the memory we hold more like that of Atari's 7800 rather than the iconic systems they became.

Wow, didn't know about this! It's cool to imagine what might have been. Great video as always!

Another great job man!. Your gaming documentaries are the best, so well made and professional-looking.

Really great video! You always put in so much effort into your research and presentation. Thank you for what you do.

This is why it is good to contain one's emotions even under the shadiest of circumstances. Still, glad this deal never finalized.

fantastic video! i've watched a lot of youtube gaming info videos and this channel is so well done. plus, this is a topic that i actually hadn't heard of before, which is rare! keep it up!

I never knew that Atari was close to licensing the Famicom. This was interesting! 🤓

Awesome video Man! Very interesting and informative :-)

This is really refreshing man. I subbed months ago and watching your channel grow has been a pleasure. Tbh, I'd rather wait weeks for an upload than get filler like the bigger channels. Thank you.

It's kind of wild to think that if this deal had gone through we may not have gotten the super mario bros. series that we know and love today. Or any of the other Nintendo franchises that we know today. We just would have gotten japanese versions of old atari 2600 games. What a waste that would have been. History happened the way it needed to happen.

Nice! Love obscure stuff like this!

Great research and short-documentary as always! Keep up the great work!!!

this is why your channel matters. u cover stuff no one else has or even knows about! great great video man!

dude, you deserve more views, amazing video!

I want to see the alternate universe where the Atari Switch exists.

Wow! I had no idea it played out like this. Awesome video man, Please keep making these documentaries!

This is the best channel I've never seen! Incredible videos, extremely well done. Keep it up!

Fascinating story! Would make a great movie.

FANTSTIC!! More please!

I like the touches of adding the sources cited as transitions. Great video as always! :D

your shows are truly the most ORIGNAL , best edit, nostalgia at its best !!!!!!!!!!!!! so much appreciate you doing this ..please don't ever stop !

I feel like the gaming industry dodged a bullet. The NES was a success not specifically due to its hardware being better - it was a success because it's software lineup was so consistently spectacular. Of course there are a lot of bad games on NES same as any system, it's best games stand so high above the competition that hardware stops being a factor. If Atari had licensed out the NES, I wonder if they would have thought to limit Japanese games and instead focusing on their own. If that had happened, I question if the NES would have ushered in the same glorious gaming days of the late 80s or if it would have crashed and burned like the 7800.

So many of these potential partnerships between these companies that broke down before fruition, which could have helped certain ones immensely. Sega with a chance to work with Sony, then Nintendo with the Nintendo PlayStation, and even this, which couldve changed the gaming landscape one way , or the other.

Great video. Fantastic editing, good script, and a very interesting subject matter that I hadn't heard of despite watching way too many documentaries on video game history. And the collab with Larry? That just pushes it over into an instant subscribe. Crossing my fingers your channel grows!

Please don't stop making videos. I'll always watch them!!

Great video as always! I didn't know any of this!

You're so good at this. Keep them coming.

In a sea of internet celebrities it's great to watch interesting videos about interesting topics without the creator being largely the focus of attention. Great stuff.

Genuinely love your content. It's going to be great watching your channel blow up in 2018.

Was hoping to see something from you today. Yaaay. 💜

I noticed a new thumbnail. very cool! I like the xtra large box style you got

This is the first time I've come across this channel. I found this in my recommendations. I've gotta say, this is terrific quality. I admit, I probably wouldn't have clicked it if it didn't have Guru Larry, but that's because there are just sooo many channels about video games and video game history, it's hard to tell at a glance which ones are good, so I just ignore them, mostly. Having said that, you earned my sub before the intro was finished. Thanks for taking the time and effort to make such great content. Cheers.

Saw you on game daves video checked out your videos and perfection! Subscribed!

If only you guys making these history videos had more support. There is movie potential there. There is so much interesting stuff going on backstage! I mean, who at the CES would've thought that at the time?

I love these videos! Thanks!

I really love your videos. Your delivery is spot on and they are looking really slick.

I had some vague idea on this, but this really filled me in. Good video.

Picked up Game Over: press start to continue years ago. I like to call it the good book for Nintendo fans 😅 The couple chapters on Tetris where great reads

Even after failed deal with Nintendo, Atari still had other chances and opportunities. The 7800 had potential, but the new owner took back the 1984 release, locked them all away on shelves in warehouses for two years and waited a whole year after U.S NES release to put it out. The games that were finally released with the 7800 were outdated remakes of multi years old games that had already been made over and over and over again and worn out. Plus the marketing strategy for 7800 was corny and pathetic. Most people didnt even know it existed even while in the stores right in your face. Had they made more commercials and actually created newer more current games for it, the 7800would of faired much better. However there were a few excellant games that were better on the 7800 than on other consoles. For example, The best port of Commando was on the 7800, which also was one of like only two games that they used the pokey sound chip in. The other was Ball Blazer, another excellant game. Wish they would of used it more because it definatley enhanced game experience A few other good games that could that demonstrated graphic capabilities was Alien Brigaide, AKARI Warriors, Tower Topler, Motor Psycho. etc etc etc.. The best games for the 7800 didnt release until about 1989 and 1990 around the death of the 7800 productuon which were too late. Had they made more games like that upon its release, it would of had more success. Again, I'll say the 7800 had potential, and Commando on the 7800 is awsome. Between 1984 to 1990, the 7800 only released a library of like 48 games total. That in itself was suicide and some what hillarious. However, even after that, Atari still had more chances. Atari blew on a deal with Sega in the late 1980s to produce and sell the genesis in the Atari name, but destroyed that opportunity with themselves AGAIN. And even after that, Atari still had another opportunity to redeem itself and survive. In my opinion, The Atari Lynx and Jaguar had the potential to be the greatest handheld and greatest console ever made. Bad marketing and bad decisions, small library's of games and not pushing there full potential also ruined those ventures However, still to this day, I still feel like the Atari Lynx handheld was and still is my favorite handheld console to the day, especially with the McWill screen mod. The capabilities of the Atari Lynx was over a decade ahead of time. Even though the NES gameboy massively outsold the Atari Lynx, the Lynx was technically and capably far superior than the Gameboy, and even more advanced than the gamegear.Unfortunately, Atari didnt market and advertise the Lynx very well....,A good example of how advanced the Lynx capabilities, speed, and graphics were is shown in S.t.u.n R.u.n.n.e.r. By far the best port of the games. The Lynx was actually Created in 1987, two years before it was publicly finally Released in 1989, it was discontinued in late 1994..... Just imagine if it had been released in 87 or 88 instead of 1989. Would of been a huge success because nothing would of been competing, and gameboy wasnt invented yet. And early release of Lynx by a couple years would of gave it a head start making the gameboy look sad in 1989, lol. It wasnt until 2002s gameboy advance, that any handheld surpassed the lynx tech and power on it's own hardware. .....

Nice vid interesting stuff and I don't think anyone on KZfaq covered it so it's all new to me keep up the good work bro

You have excellent diction and tone for voiceover work! Well produced and high-quality videos! *thumbs up*

Hey, guys, just dropping by alternate universes while playing my Atari Switch.

One of these days Atari and Sega will rise again.

Thanks for the video! I thoroughly enjoy your retrospectives! More please!

I was reading on how Kinney Services became Warner Communications became Time-Warner became AOL Time Warner back to TimeWarner becoming WarnerMedia subsidiary of AT&T. Anyway, the video game crash of '83 had far reaching effects for Warner Communications, Atari's owner at the time. Basically, the company from that point forward was in financial straits it led to the selling of of their cable channels which would be bought up by Viacom (MTV and Nickelodeon), allow for Time, Inc. to merge with Warner to form the new company, its video game assets being eventually spun off and sold to a variety of companies Bally, Acclaim and Midway before arriving back at the company again albeit much, much smaller and more Midway than Atari (which was stripped of practically everything even its name). Still, think of that world. Warner Communications sells the Atari Famicom at the height of the cable boom of the late 80's/early 90's and releases ports of the SNES, Game Boy, 3DS, N64 and so on. Would there be a PlayStation? Who buys the Mariners? Would Sega jump into Microsoft's coffers earlier perhaps surviving the 2000's? The possibilities would've been endless. Think about it like this, one company would've owned the license to all Nintendo characters outside of Japan, Looney Tunes, DC Comics and eventually the Hanna-Barbara library, its music division and this would lead to the PlayStation never being built (at least in its current form). The entertainment landscape as we know it would've been fundamentally altered.

In an alternate reality, Atari and Sega are like Sony and Microsoft. Meanwhile Apple is in the back dominating handhelds and derpy motion controls for old people.

Great video man. I love this kind of crazy gaming history. Nintendo might seem like kids stuff, but their business practices are definitely hard core. They loved screwing deals at E3, lol.

It's amazing how many stories from the annals of videogame and computer history keep popping up, you think you would have heard them all by now, ..... but hey, I'm not complaining, it's always great to get another new old story. Thank you :)

This was a well written story. Great job. You have one more subscriber.

As Andy Rooney once said “I like a woman’s hair, and I like butter, but I don’t like them together.” No Nintari for me.

i think its like a breakup/freindzone kinda thing where right before they were about to secure the rights the video game crash happened but.. they still had worked with atari even after, they even put pong in smash bros as an assist trophy

FANTASTIC video, so very well done!!!! Hope you do more vids like this one...cheers!!!

I just found your channel the other day and I gotta say, you make great content, keep it up!

I bet Atari is kickin themselves for that!

Well THANKFULLY Atari didn't sign that deal! Dodged a bullet there, Nintendo wouldn't have been what it is today if that would have happened.

Watched a lot of documentaries on the development history of early consoles, and man... I just keep thinking : "It takes some very serious minds to bring us this much fun."

Bravo sir! Thank you for this piece of brilliance!

Always wondered why Atari didn't end up having the rights to the Famicom.

Nintendo: You had your chance at the cotillion you!

I found your page tonight and binged all your videos. Your editing is spot on. Your intelligence and research are incredible. And the music you choose makes me smile. Please keep making these videos of information I couldn't find myself. P.S. fingers crossed for a Sega channel video.

I love this channel. Your videos are constantly getting better and better and I always look forward to the next one.

Put a strong independent female character, an 80's soundtrack, some spicy edgy sex scenes, a wildcard character, a villain, and you'll have a four season HBO or AMC tv show about this deal.

I think Nintendo might have overestimated the demand for the Famicom in the SECAM regions. Pretty much the only one of those where consumers were likely to buy video game consoles in the 1980s was France and even then, Europe wasn't doing too hot economically, making home computers with lower-priced cassette games more popular.

Good work, dude. Always enjoy your presentation.

Awesome video, thanks for digging up the info and putting this together.

Why does Howard Lincoln have a goofy English accent? Hahaha

All this over Donkey Kong.....