That’s terrible I couldn’t imagine giving people who lost their wages £5 each as a gift to backfire so badly and ruin your reputation and life so much like what the hell

What I've learned from this is that if I'm ever in a lifeboat rowing away from a sinking ship, just sit there and keep my mouth shut!

My great grandfather Albert Horswill was one of the crewmen on that lifeboat.

The sea was so calm the Lifeboats could have carried 25 to 40 percent more people.

I think the biggest tragedy is that there wasn't some sort of plan in place to rescue people from the water or fill up the boats. I understand that some of the boats had to be launched without being filled to capacity and that there was a fear of being swamped. But i think when the boats were lowered, they should have met in the water away from the Titanic and passengers transferred over from one boat to another. Once a boat was filled with passengers to full capacity it could sail away to be safe and the empty boat could go back to either try and pick uo up more people from the sinking ship (like Captain Smith requested) or try to pick people up from the water. Not everyone would be saved but at least more people would have been. Of course its easy to suggest solutions years later when you weren't there.

£5 may not sound like a lot, but it was a good amount of money for 1912

You truly are a Titanic genius, Sam. Your videos are so informative and we all learn new stuff about the Titanic

For all the rumours surrounding lifeboat #1 one thing is undeniable. With so many empty seats on the lifeboat and so many people screaming for help in the water, there is NO WAY that it wasn't at least discussed to go back and help. Which brings Lucy Duff Gordon's account into question.

Just...wow. You always think there's nothing more to learn and yet there always is. Fantastic episode.

Your videos are fantastic Sam! I learn something new every time!!

Your research is excellent, so well done! Coincidentally, I have just finished reading up on the Duff-Gordon's case in a lovely old book I have, which had a long chapter on what happened, including a transcript of the hearing and the truth is just as you state it. The Duff-Gordon's were cleared of all the accusations made against them, although sadly the saying that "mud sticks" proved true as many people still preferred to believe the lie. Lady Duff-Gordon also didn't say much while in the lifeboat because she was feeling horribly seasick and was doing all she could to not throw up. I also get seasick on small boats, so I know how she would have felt. So that exchange about not going back to help others simply did not happen.

17:03 bruh That's hilarious

I have always loved your videos, you sparked my interest in the Titanic story, keep up the good work

Actually, your intro is *slightly* off on some important facts. The reason that Lifeboats 1 and 2 were swung out the way they were was not so much to prevent damage to Collapsibles C and D, but because they served the duel purpose of being emergency cutters that *had* to be swung out, ready to go, hence no canvas covers, in case of someone fell overboard or there was an encounter at sea where the Titanic might have to stop and immediately rescue survivors of a shipwreck, etc. When docked in port the two cutters would be stowed like all the other boats inboard and right over the collapsible boats. The cutters being in a ready-to-go launch configuration probably also contributed to the speed of the Titanic's crew in launching the number of boats they were able to since they had two boats essentially swung out already and just being needed to be filled with people. In fact, every time Titanic went to sea, the crew had to take time to swing them out, which was considered a lifeboat drill since most the equipment used was very nearly identical to that used for the other boats, and involved dozens of crew members called to stations to swing them out. And swing the boats back in when in port. This, combined with two prior major drills, first at Belfast for Board of Trade agent Francis Carruthers where 16 lifeboats were lowered down, at least 6 to the water, and then again a few boats were lowered all the way as part of a drill at Southampton on the day of Titanic's sailing on April 10th.

I'm watching this video on my living room TV and had to get my phone rockin to get a comment going. Just wanted to say I'm AMAZED that you manage to STILL make such informative and AMAZING videos on the titanic. I follow 4 ocean liner channels but Historic Travels IS THE TITANIC CHANNEL as far as I'm concerned.

I have been loving your videos for years, Sam. You taught me so much about ocean liners!

Channel is growing pretty now. amazing, Sam!

Your videos are very well done m. I’m learning a whole lot of things about these famous sinkings!!! I have been very interested in the sinking of the Titanic for years, and these videos are very informative!!!

Sir Cosmo should have sued the newspaper companies for yellow journalism.

I remember stopping by one of your live streams one day and for fun tried to see if I could get your attention by saying hi from Sweden and after like 5 times you did reply live, since then forward you are the only youtuber I have had a tiny brief little conversation with once, anyways I appreciate your content and your channel keep up the good work m8, and hi from Sweden :)

This story is incredible. Thank you for sharing your knowledge🫶🏼

Typical press blowing everything out of whack. They denied it of course. Let's not forget Stanley Lord, he was punished for not going to the Titanics rescue. His story will be settles, too many stories not enough proof. Great video. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@historictravels I’ve been watching your videos like crazy over the last few weeks, really great stuff. I also firmly believe you need a “However” shirt in your merch store😂 keep up the great content man

YAY a Titanic episode on a Friday🎉 miss the titanic videos from Sam

Talking at the end about even today some media says things without essential fact checking, then a brief glimpse of the Bright Side logo appears. 😂😂 17:03

Great vid Sam, I’ve wondered about this topic for a long time and I’m happy you made a video about it. Speaking of controversial lifeboats can you do a video on Lifeboat 6 because I’m pretty sure there was some controversy surrounding lifeboat 6. For example not going back for titanic survivors and not going back to the Titanic when they heard Captain Smith calling all the lifeboats to come back.

Hi history travel's you really made me calm while my village is flooded

Why didn't you mention that the next day on the Carpathia the Duff Gordons gathered everyone who'd been in Lifeboat #1 and had a photograph taken, which was not looked on kindly by the other surviving passengers. The Duff Gordons were their own worst enemy.

Hey Sam. Your videos are very highly detailed and really go in depth. I'm looking into 5th officer Harold Lowe, and i was wondering if you could do a video of his story?

5 pounds in 1912 is about 730 pounds or 930 USD today.

Hej Sam! Nice to see the new video again! 🤝

this is so fascinating, thanks for mentioning. how'd you discover this?

If I can remember of the top of my head in the movie a night to remember it presented the scene of lifeboat 1 being lowered and what happened, just came to mind when I saw ur video

Enjoy your videos mate. I’m also a huge titanic geek, I love it all. All the Olympic class liners. I often visit white star memories here in the U.K. & purchase artefacts from them. I recently bought a document signed by Thomas Andrews & Lord Pirrie. Serious collector here. I’ve also got several fragments, wood pieces & coal from the titanic. As well as wood panelling from Olympic like you for got for your 30th! Let’s chat!

One of the few times rich people get their reputations ruined is when he didn't deserved it.

Great vid

the Bright Side logo killed me xD

17:02 The shade Sam gave Bright Side literally turned off the light bulb

Interesting, because if I remember correctly Lady Duff-Gordon stated in the british enquiry that she doesn't remember anything from that night, because "she was terribly sea sick". So how could she know for sure that she didn't hear the suggestion to return?

Yea i heard of that boat thanks for sharing your feelings

great video keep the great work up #24

Good show

You know its bad when Sam starts raging hard

Hey there I've seen quite a few videos and I'm becoming a huge fan. I have an idea for a video. I don't know if you've talked about it but here it is: Did Murdoch really order the Titanic's engines full astern (like in the movie) or did he order them to a full stop? And if he did, did the engines really have enough time to get to spin the propellers as fast as it was shown in the movie? I've read in quite a few articles that if the propellers really did go full astern, the rudder's turn to starboard wouldn't be as effective because of the water flow. What do you think?

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Also, I would have preferred that the life boats had been full to capacity, even if it was with men, instead of pushing off below capacity. I don't even mind had they saved the animals. Anything so that they didn't go away below capacity. Save something! Someone! Fill the boats!

Hi Sam you could make a video about where did the lifeboats on titanic go after the sinking

CANT WAIT, OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE ANOTHER AWESOME VIDEO BY SAM! 😃

this is definitely the best channel about Titanic on youtube 🚢❤

If I remember the sailor complained first that they had lost their kit; ergo the personal effects and professional equipment they needed. And then added that he couldn't buy a new one because his wages had just stopped. Little different, but not fully. When I read it he lost his tools of his trade, the company was not going to replace it, and his wages were stopped. THe 5 pounds was the cost of the equipment they needed to go back to work. The photograph that Lady Duff Gordon took with all the sailors after they reached NY was also damning on them. It made the sailors look like their private crew. Though it was more likely she just wanted something to keep after her traumatic event. From what I have read about her, her greatest problem was just having terrible taste.

12:49 this just made me sad

This reminds me when that one guy from the titanic (movie) tried to bribe the officer to get into a lifeboat and yes he was a man 👨

It is good too see the press still do the same lies today.

Sam that was so sus when you flashed the bright side logo on the screen talking about miss information today

Lil side note, in the 1997 Titanic Movie, Andrews spoke to Lightholler, quoting this: Right after Jack and Rose said shut up together at a steward. Andrews: Mr Lightholler! Why are these lifeboats being launched half full? Lightholler: Not now, Mr Andrews Andrews: There! Look! 20 or so. In a boat meant for 65. And I saw one 1 boat with only 12. 12!

5 gold pounds is about 1.1 oz of gold FYI cheers love your vids

When did the Board of Trade regulations about a ship sinking and crew wages change?

Hi Sam, it just goes to show how some people can be so callous and selfish!

17:01 🤣🤣🤣

this video was interesting

There are several "Titanic Archive - 1957" interviews with actual passengers put out by "BBC South Today" on KZfaq. One of the female passengers said she refused to get in a lifeboat and went back to her room until someone stressed to her how much danger she was in. I don't recall her name, but she had a porcelain pig, which someone threw in the lifeboat and she wanted to go after it but refused to jump. Two men made a seat for her by locking their arms together and lowered her down. From the interviews, at first it sounds like people just thought it was safer to stay on the ship and didn't want to go in the lifeboats. I have heard that before.

Just goes to show that good deeds don't go unpunished. Cosmo was being charitable.

9:30-“There goes your beautiful nightdress.” That line was in the 2012 Titanic miniseries! 12:20- this is the same thing that journalists did to Bruce Ismay. I understand there are a TON of rich people out there who are jerks (we see several big names today like Elon Musk and Donald Trump), but some don’t deserve the hate they get, behind all their wealth, they still have redeeming traits.

Every good story needs its villains. The news media hasn't changed at all!!

That Lego model is awesome .

Poor man getting accused on unfounded rumours for helping sailors who lost few days pay but it does look like from outsiders view as a bribe

Wasn't #1 and #2 emergency cutters incase of an overboard situation they had a boat ready to pick them up?

Leave it to the media to always blow things out of proportion

Hey Sam, Just Want To Know. Would The "Supposed" LifeBoat Drill Save The Titanic From Sinking?

Sam, I have a topic for you that it seems no one has ever done an article or video on! Which is mind boggling! On a video about 10 mysterious artifacts, someone raised the notion that the doll’s head in the movie was Eva Hart’s doll. I went, WHAT??! So I Googled Eva Hart’s doll. No one has done any decent article on this, but it appears that 1) Ballard discovered a doll’s head in the sand and took a photo which is on Facebook, but whether they ever retrieved it, I don’t know. 2) Cameron used Ballard’s photo to fake a doll’s head, which was supposed to be Cora’s. 3) Eva Hart’s doll’s head apparently traveled to Spain and was recovered by a fisherman and authenticated, which is mind boggling but no one has ever told this story, in an article. 4) Eva’s doll was sold at auction. Eva was contacted and apparently some deal was made, but Eva never owned the doll again. 5) Eva is always shown with her parents and a doll, which must have been the doll that floated to Spain, yet no reporter apparently ever interviewed Eva about the doll’s name, what she looked like, where she was left in Titanic, etc. 6) Apparently some information about the doll was obtained in a memoir of Eva’s-because someone knew to take the doll’s head in Spain and authenticate it by fitting it to a mold of a certain English doll manufacturer. Sam, go to work!

I thought the most controversial lifeboat was Collapsible C, the one Ismay was in.

I can feel the anger and that's a good thing.

It should never have left the boat in the first place with only 12 people. They should’ve left it there and let 20 more in

No good deed goes unpunished.

On the night of the April 15th, 1912, Titanic (also known at the time as The Unsinkable) went down while she was trying to break a speed record. Unfortunately, that record was never achieved and the RMS Titanic hit an iceberg in the midst of the Pacific. If they'd have had binoculars aboard, this probably wouldn't have never happened. Titanic was under the average in terms of safety at the time, as she had very few lifeboats. Quickly after the Titanic set on fire, the third class passengers were emprisoned downstairs making it impossible to reach the deck of the ship. It is also widely known the crew members were heavily armed. Surrounding ships such as the California tried to help and the Titanic operators told them to shut the .. up. The Titanic sank in one piece.

A lifeboat with a corruption addiction with the crew member or passenger, we sure this isn't one of the most immoral stories from titanic?

i think the boats should have made a perimeter around the people in the water and given them a chance to swim to the boats to save themselves.

Hopefully the Board of Trade did away with that regulation about ship crewmembers losing their wages when a ship sinks.

No good deed goes unpunished it seems

Hey, can you talk about titanic 2 the trailer of 2024 please

£5 equivalent of 1912, is £700 today equivalent

Nothing changes,the press would do the same thing now

Wait wait wait! What happened to her dog?! I NEED TO KNOW IT SURVIVED!

What is the difference between a collapsible and regular life boat?

It was lady Duff gordon. She complained about the space. In the 97 movie it shows molly brown in the boat with her and a good amount more but that wasnt the case.

It's interesting that Sir Cosmo Duff Gordon was able to write cheques after the ship sank. I suppose he carried his chequebook with him at all times, so it wasn't lost with the ship.

If the lifeboats were filled to the full listed capacity how many passengers and crew would have perished?

And people want to talk about Lightoller when this boat was launched by Murdoch

Weren't lifeboats 1 and 2 known as "emergency cutters" or something similar? They had less capacity than most of the other standard boats and had there own name, I think that's it.

The fact that Lucy Duff-Gordon was more concerned about the loss of an item of clothing than the 1500+ people who were shrieking for help and dying is absolutely disgraceful. She must have been incredibly shallow and materialistic. I cannot believe that the subject of returning to pick up survivors was never discussed. Charles Hendrickson was probably the only one in the lifeboat who was honest about that. The rest of the people in the lifeboat probably denied that conversation because they didn't want to admit that they chose not to attempt to pick up survivivors. I am not sure why you want to paint Mr. Duff-Grodon as the good guy and Hendrickson as the media rat bad guy. If Hendrickson did tell the story of the checks to the press, I'd guess that he did out of disgust with the others for refusing to return. And you admit that you have no proof of Hendrickson being the source of the story but "you wouldn't put it past him". I wouldn't put it past a spoiled rich woman who was more concerned with clothing than human life to have refused to go back. And it sure does sound like that money was a bribe or hush money to keep everyone telling the same story. For a lifeboat with 12 to fail to return is inexcusable. If Cosmo Duff-Gordon had a real sense of decency, he'd have demanded that the crew row back to rescue survivors. Offering them money to do that would have demonstrated integrity. I do not understand why you perceive him as the victim. I like your videos but I disagree with your analysis.

Such a great guy, but didnt insist on going back to help save others? In a boat barely a quarter full, they sat back for the better part of two hours as the ship sank, knowing how limited lifeboat seats were, and dis nothing. Bribed or no, everyone on rhat boat should have been ashamed.

Boat 1 was not a true lifeboat. It was an emergency cutter.

Sam, will you do a video about Daniel Buckley, a third class passenger who, like Bruce Ismay, was accused of dressing like a woman to get into a lifeboat? He did have a shawl over his head, but that's because one of the women in the boat gave it to him and told him to put it over his head.

Interesting - a part of the Titanic story that needs more light shed on it.

The old saying goes, lies circle the earth three times before the truth gets a start

Sam, What if the Titanic unloaded passengers onto the Iceberg??

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Maybe it’s harsh but 5$? What a cheapskate and honestly, I wish more of the other classes were saved instead of these rich people who offered about 100x less than even their ticket cost…

I still think there was a hint of truth to all this. I really do believe the lady did tell them not to go back.