THE STRENGTH SCORE: Creature Comparison

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Esper the Bard

Esper the Bard

Жыл бұрын

This is where the ability scores begin, the measure of physical power-the most primal aspect that determines who wins in a brutal world.
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@user-vm9xz4kv9z
@user-vm9xz4kv9z Жыл бұрын
The strength of some incorporeal undead might be there to represent the trope of invisible poltergeists moving objects around, making it look like they move on their own
@chrizzlybear5565
@chrizzlybear5565 Жыл бұрын
That's why the ghost has a high strength compared to incorporeals at its CR: The poltergeist is a variant stat block to the ghost.
@eliotoole4534
@eliotoole4534 6 ай бұрын
@@chrizzlybear5565poltergeist is a variant of the specter. (Any/all)
@squashedeyeball
@squashedeyeball 11 ай бұрын
10:40 That's something I can't understand: Brown bear, Allosaurus, Killer Whale, Ogre, all having the same strength modifier. They have massive differences in mass, as well as muscle structure and power utilization.
@firebreathingcow
@firebreathingcow Жыл бұрын
As a big Dino nerd myself I really appreciated the velociraptor aside. Thank you!
@kinanshmahell8065
@kinanshmahell8065 Жыл бұрын
but the strength ranking for a lot of these animals unrealistic he put alosaurus wich ways 2.7 metric tons in the same level as a brown bear
@firebreathingcow
@firebreathingcow Жыл бұрын
@@kinanshmahell8065 oh totally. I was specifically talking about him distinguishing being what velociraptor was like (to our best knowledge) and how it was reflected in d and d vs how it was portrayed in popular media. The dinosaurs in d and d should be a way bigger threat
@muddlewait8844
@muddlewait8844 Жыл бұрын
My favorite section in any D&D book is the bit in 3.5 where they describe what it means to have a 0 in each score in that edition. Dex 0: You can’t move. Str 0: You can’t move anything else. Int 0: You can’t think, learn, or remember. Con 0: You’re not alive. Wis 0: You don’t know anything besides you exists. Chr 0: You don’t know YOU exist.
@zacharychevrier-ferreira6993
@zacharychevrier-ferreira6993 Жыл бұрын
Cool spin on the ‘normal’ kind of creature rankings you do, really into discovering more in the other scores!
@RP-Dai
@RP-Dai Жыл бұрын
I didn't know Esper had such STRONG opinion on this matter. (Roll for charisma check).😅
@Nubbletech
@Nubbletech Жыл бұрын
Got a 10. (Standing up to get my dice was harder than expected. I'm too tired.)
@esperthebard
@esperthebard Жыл бұрын
I actually had some doubts about making this one, and ended up having to *force* myself to produce it.
@mitchellholler7938
@mitchellholler7938 Жыл бұрын
Please make a video about the other ability scores I would love that. Thank you! This was a great video. Keep up the great work!
@yungminiwheat1406
@yungminiwheat1406 Жыл бұрын
More of this! It helps so much when designing homebrew monsters' ability scores.
@lordbalthosadinferni4384
@lordbalthosadinferni4384 Жыл бұрын
THIS
@azazel8700
@azazel8700 Жыл бұрын
I really liked this video, seeing how scores actually act in the world
@s-o-tariknomad6970
@s-o-tariknomad6970 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see more of this, especially for the more Abstract Stats like Wis and Cha
@raff3486
@raff3486 Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@NinjaBenjamin
@NinjaBenjamin Жыл бұрын
Randomly opening youtube, and this show up with 22 seconds since upload, WOOOH
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 Жыл бұрын
I can’t help but feel like this video would benefit from having the song _Strength of a Thousand Men_ by Two Steps From Hell playing as the background music.
@craven99
@craven99 Жыл бұрын
Loved this - looking forward to the next in the series
@adriltythorin6702
@adriltythorin6702 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see this for the other scores. Please keep it going!
@viniciusklaussnerfonsecaco1952
@viniciusklaussnerfonsecaco1952 Жыл бұрын
I REAAALYY ENJOYED THIS VIDEO IDEA!!! KEEP IT UP ESPER!!
@ThePhilosophicalOpossum
@ThePhilosophicalOpossum Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video! I'd love to see more about the different ability scores! Encyclopedic comparison and math metric analysing videos are pretty rare and so I'd love to see more of this!
@saxypirate9414
@saxypirate9414 Жыл бұрын
I hope you keep this series going, fun video
@canceresbunny
@canceresbunny Жыл бұрын
Omg I felt so blessed about my DL PR. Thanks Esper!
@Takeda10K
@Takeda10K Жыл бұрын
4:39 City Guard 1: You’ve been to the Chultan Peninsula? Did you see dinosaurs? City Guard 2: Oh yes and they were terrifying yet magnificent, though I was taken aback by the velociraptors. They were still ferocious but much smaller than the tales made them out to be, and they were covered in more feathers than scales. City Guard 3: Ha, you know story tellers, they love to spice everything up for dramatic effect.
@rachdarastrix5251
@rachdarastrix5251 Жыл бұрын
Guard 4: "I brought one back. His name is fluffy. I trained him to perch on my shoulder. Good thing I am wearing armor because when I pass by a dog the dog barks at him then he gets scared and tries to dig his claw in."
@lowestcommondemon
@lowestcommondemon 11 ай бұрын
This is awesome and I would love to see more of it. Me and my friends have been trying to create our real states and this put some much needed context for me.
@debreczeniarpad9956
@debreczeniarpad9956 Жыл бұрын
Lets go! I really appreciate these kinds of videos
@helixxharpell
@helixxharpell 4 ай бұрын
Love all the content Esper The Bard creates! The guy has many talents & puts tons of work into his videos! Big fan of his work!
@neo0inu
@neo0inu Жыл бұрын
i didn't know i needed an ability score scaling vid. Great job 🎉 would love the rest of them when you can find the time for them.
@TannerBean1
@TannerBean1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the PB wishes on my deadlifts at the end 😂😂😂 been a huge fan of your work over the years Esper. Keep living your passion my friend ❤
@alexeisenhauer5874
@alexeisenhauer5874 Жыл бұрын
Really cool concept for a video!!
@machineknight1875
@machineknight1875 Жыл бұрын
I want more comparisons as this was very interesting.
@Mikhander
@Mikhander Жыл бұрын
This was very interesting video topic keep it coming!
@TYBERIUS777
@TYBERIUS777 Жыл бұрын
Ah a new ranking series. Excited to see more!
@Gargantupimp
@Gargantupimp Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to seeing this type of video for every stat type.
@TwoKnowingRavens
@TwoKnowingRavens Жыл бұрын
Great video , keep them coming Esper! (Still working on details of my diceless RPG system, I got busy with other work the past six months , I'll email you the alpha version soon!)
@eprlide2142
@eprlide2142 Жыл бұрын
This was a great video. I would love to see more attribute examples, like Dexterity and Charisma.
@anathema1828
@anathema1828 Жыл бұрын
Nice work on the video!
@Sorrowisyourdemon
@Sorrowisyourdemon Жыл бұрын
I assume that ghosts have a bit of a strength score to represent poltergeists that are capable of moving objects like throwing things and whatnot.
@ianyoder2537
@ianyoder2537 Жыл бұрын
I had this idea for a mechanic for one of my evil faction's of my game. Watching this video makes me want begin to rethink it. The roots of new gaia. A cult of evil druids who hate technology (this is a renascence era campaign) and want to return the world to a more natural state by force. They have this narrative only spell "the curse of de evolution," it would rewrite some one's evolutionary path from an inelegant species who can continue to poison the earth a physically powerful animistic monster that can be controlled. The idea was the spell took a point from any mental stat (INT,WIS,CHA) and plases it into any physical stat (STR, DEX,CON) turning people into gorilla monsters the cult can control. It works fine enough for commoners, but if done on someone with adventurer like stats it's game breaking. Well it's not like they don't have dozens of other tools to ruin people's day. Armies of blights planted in peoples crops, exotic poisons, a spore based disease that turns people into plants, man made chimeras, fanatic berserker warriors. These violent tree huggers are built to ruin you're day, and they aren't even the BBEG faction.
@dave-bulletrider
@dave-bulletrider Жыл бұрын
Though it's not something new, I really dig this kind of content. It's a great summary and brings some creatures into view I may habe overlooked a bit in the past.
@wyatthessler
@wyatthessler Жыл бұрын
This could be a cool series. Keep it up 👍.
@callumarmitage4828
@callumarmitage4828 Жыл бұрын
This was a cool video man. Enjoyed it a lot. Good to see you keeping on
@krostonkroston8241
@krostonkroston8241 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video!
@onemisterfranko
@onemisterfranko Жыл бұрын
Great stuff, these are fun. It's handy too if you have someone newer to the game this kind of stuff could help put the numbers in perspective as well. I agree to the sweet spot is 16 for any top stat you're solid with room to grow but if you'd rather focus elsewhere it's perfectly reasonable. :)
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 Жыл бұрын
D&D is a game where wild dogs are weaker than the average person, hyenas have the same strength as the average person while also being weaker than wolves, and an allosaurus is roughly on the same tier as a brown bear. I have many concerns.
@KermodeBear
@KermodeBear Жыл бұрын
Animals are amazing and often not properly represented in fantasy worlds. Just some trivia: From A-Z Animals: "The spotted hyena has a bite force of 1,100 psi, which is stronger than most animals and all other hyena species. The 1,100 psi of bite force is extremely impressive because of the hyena’s size. While the spotted hyena is the largest type, it is only around 3 to 4 feet long and weighs between 89 to 140 lbs. Polar bears are extremely large, growing up to 7 feet, and can weigh over 1,000 pounds. They have a bite force of around 1,200 psi." Yes, that little hyena's bite is almost as strong as a polar bear's! Not properly reflected in the damage dice, that's for sure. Though, to be fair, polar bears have a large size and lots, and lots, and lots of muscle, and BIG claws, so that's gonna hurt...
@rachdarastrix5251
@rachdarastrix5251 Жыл бұрын
They may have forgot to compare them to already existing character sheets.
@jeffadov4906
@jeffadov4906 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting idea for the videos, would like to see more definitively but it would be a lot more interesting imo with more commentary about why some creatures have the score they have. You started with the lower scores and when talking about the spectral type undead, but completely stopped and just presented the creatures after that. I hope you don’t take this wrongly, it’s really meant to be constructive. It would be really interesting to give your insight into why the incubus for example has such low strength although it’s a fiend (well i know it’s more focused on magic than physical fighting). Things like that would make this serie a lot more interesting, especially for people who like to dabble into monster creation Cheers, keep up the good work!
@jake120007
@jake120007 Жыл бұрын
wow that monstrous heroes book looks right up my alley, i might give that a buy on payday.
@raff3486
@raff3486 Жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@jegosi17
@jegosi17 Жыл бұрын
What an awesome and refreshing perspective on the bestiary of D&D! This certainly puts into perspective the world we immerse ourselves in whenever we play a campaign. I'd totally like to see more of this :)
@rippertrain
@rippertrain 9 ай бұрын
MAY YOUR ADVENTURES BE MANY ESPER!
@Norestfortheinfernal
@Norestfortheinfernal Жыл бұрын
More of this please
@projectarduino2295
@projectarduino2295 Жыл бұрын
This really helps put things into perspective. Maybe a force comparison in pounds or kgm/s would help just a bit more, especially with the higher ones. -5 might be lest than a pound, and +10 could be multiple tons. Anyways, love this kind of work.
@jeremystone5946
@jeremystone5946 Жыл бұрын
Id like to see more this. Especially wisdom and charisma.
@zreed545
@zreed545 Жыл бұрын
Took the time to like and comment. So pls more videos like this
@esperthebard
@esperthebard Жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@veteran673
@veteran673 Жыл бұрын
Will you do every ability score comparisons too please :D
@duaneepps7346
@duaneepps7346 Жыл бұрын
I like these deep dives
@edpistemic
@edpistemic Жыл бұрын
What a (deceptively simple but) great idea! I hope Dex, Con etc will all follow.... please?
@ianyoder2537
@ianyoder2537 Жыл бұрын
Are you gonna go down the line and do dexterity next, or whatever suits you're fancy jump right into inelegance?
@squattingheads
@squattingheads Жыл бұрын
You should make videos with bluworm. his style fits your storytelling so well
@ItoOttelli
@ItoOttelli Жыл бұрын
Funky thing about strength is how sizes affect it in 5e. A Gnome with 20 strength will only be able to lift as much a Goliath with 10.
@esbeng.s.a9761
@esbeng.s.a9761 Жыл бұрын
I love this and want more
@MrJudeWanamaker
@MrJudeWanamaker Жыл бұрын
Very nice
@scroletyper8286
@scroletyper8286 6 ай бұрын
fun fact. do to how the body works wolverine wouldnt feel pain. over the years his brain would relaize that his mutation is ggoing to heal the damage dealt to him so it wouldnt consider it painful until it didn't heal for some reason. such as leaving a branch in his chest after beig impaled. cant heal while that's theire so pain. but once its removed the pain would quickly subside. it also means he'd be in constant pain while his claws are out.
@mite2531
@mite2531 Жыл бұрын
Can we all agree that the who ever is in charge of assigning strength scores to animals has legitimately no idea how strong real animals are.
@manarayofhope2374
@manarayofhope2374 Жыл бұрын
Yes please
@ananslator3655
@ananslator3655 Жыл бұрын
You should do a Rankin video on dinosaurs
@johngleeman8347
@johngleeman8347 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Intelligence. I know the elder brain would be up there, but I wonder if anything surpasses it.
@vincentarcher5054
@vincentarcher5054 Жыл бұрын
I think you should've included an aside that 24 is the highest natural strength score for any player character could ever have as the cap stone ability of Barbarians is a +4 increase to their Str & Con score and max to put it into better perspective.
@DBArtsCreators
@DBArtsCreators 7 ай бұрын
"The math of 5e is stable." Me, allowing players & creatures to have scores above 30 without in-depth structuring: *maniacal laughter*
@martelpeacock3545
@martelpeacock3545 Жыл бұрын
Please do that with the version 3 monsters
@H1Guard
@H1Guard Жыл бұрын
They've messed up the Strength scale, which is meant to double woth each +5. A general rule of thumb is that Strength should mirror mass for an average creature. Obesity is an exception. So if we consider an average man at 160 lb for Strength 10 we can see what that scale should look like. A 320 lb black bear should be 15, but most wild animals should be higher than the scale established for "civilized" creatures that typically exhibit neoteny (juvenile characteristics preserved into adulthood). If a middling bugbear were also around 320 lb, then the average would be 15. The bugbears encountered should be warriors who train, so perhaps they don't average 320 lb but have an average Str 15 anyway. At 20 the creature should be around 640 lb. That would include the brown bear and the ogre. However, both grizzly bears and polar bears can grow above 1280 lb that would typify Str 25. Cave Bear skeletons show that they would have far exceeded the 2560 lb for Str 30, even exceeding 5000 lb for Str 35. In 3e, they tried to follow the +5 doubling rule closely for giants. I think +5 doubling only works in proximity to the human-centered datum. Likewise, a large destrier could be 1200+ lb
@Blizz3112
@Blizz3112 Жыл бұрын
I remember in 3.5 Thor having such a high Strength score, that he could effortlessly move a mountain on top of you... XD
@joefixxit
@joefixxit Жыл бұрын
Can you do a comparison from original d&d to present. Then explain why 3rd and 3.5 epic
@bluecoconut9543
@bluecoconut9543 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@ffgggthh5781
@ffgggthh5781 Жыл бұрын
can u do all the abilities plz
@louisbabycos106
@louisbabycos106 Жыл бұрын
Time for a muscle Wizard build
@user-om1pp5qe5z
@user-om1pp5qe5z 8 ай бұрын
How much weight can a STR 30 lift?
@popularopinion1
@popularopinion1 Жыл бұрын
Im a backer for the monsterous heroes... Ordered it specifically for the minotaur and troll
@JeriDro
@JeriDro Жыл бұрын
great video for putting things in to perspective. what are air elementals like? Is it something you can befriend and it can carry you around? what's it's consciousness like? is this the same for all elementals? Also, what character do you like to play with the most?
@TheVexinator
@TheVexinator Жыл бұрын
Harry Squatter, rejoice!
@indiana47
@indiana47 Жыл бұрын
If you bring in other books, Halaster increases the top CR for a +0 mod strength to 23.
@evopalaeo99
@evopalaeo99 Жыл бұрын
Intelligence would be fun!
@weirdflex1673
@weirdflex1673 Жыл бұрын
I think strength for ghost is the force behind there possession.
@redelephantsdotnl
@redelephantsdotnl Жыл бұрын
When I was reading the opening quote, I thought; "Oh this is someone who fought Mke Tyson." It's kind of weird to think that your average bandit is as strong as a black bear. I mean, for real? And your level one fighter is as strong as a *LION?*
@danielward4091
@danielward4091 Жыл бұрын
Do Int next
@Jeromy1986
@Jeromy1986 Жыл бұрын
As one of the very extremely few D&D players who actually respects the concept that the rules (such as encumbrance and social interaction as a viable course of action), do you find that Challenge Rating is more functional than people say? I've very little experience from which to draw myself.
@malcolmt7883
@malcolmt7883 Жыл бұрын
It's a little weird how a normal man in DnD can be stronger than a mule.
@hamster2845
@hamster2845 Жыл бұрын
Well, Conan knocked out a camel.
@gfhjkfghj4208
@gfhjkfghj4208 Жыл бұрын
The problem is that on a 1D20 roll, an ability modifier only takes effect in 1 out of 20 = 5%. The carryweight, which also accounts for size iirc, gives a much more realistic assessment of a creature's physical power. If an Orc Warrior ( 110 kg, +3) armwrestles an Elf Mage (55 kg, +0) 100 times, the Orc statistically wins only 65 of those contested rolls. That's a really poor representation of reality. The Orc can lift 30 * 16 = 480 lbs, the Elf only 30 * 10 = 300 lbs. It would be better to compare those lift capacities and allow a strength roll to add 1D20 + str - 10 lbs to the result. So the Orc would be able to lift 474 to 503 lbs (480 + 1D20 + 3 - 10) and the Elf 290 to 320 lbs. So there's no way anymore that the linebacker loses every third armwrestle to the cheerleader.
@Duhwu
@Duhwu Жыл бұрын
Oh to get a barbarian up to 30 strength and wrestle a terasque to a standstill
@HiopX
@HiopX Жыл бұрын
The idea for the format is great but please consider changing the transition audio. That pitch screech was barely barable
@thegayghost872
@thegayghost872 Жыл бұрын
Kind of shocked by how strong cows are in DND
@reimardahlstrom4765
@reimardahlstrom4765 Жыл бұрын
I would much rather have you return to your roots doing monster and class ranking and giving some perspectives on what they represent conceptually. If you need some inspiration dice of your own, allow me to provide you with some for the abominations. In my opinion, abominations represent our own imperfections given physical form. A hecatoncheires could be seen as the mistake of war and violence, how people can go into boundless slaughter for little reason. Anaxims are the mistakes we make with machines or art, when your trying to craft something or fix something and it just... doesnt work. If undead force us to stare at our own mortality, abominations force us to stare at our own problems
@joedan5366
@joedan5366 Жыл бұрын
Let's go
@NagolM
@NagolM Жыл бұрын
I would love to see the fastest
@SageofCancer
@SageofCancer 7 ай бұрын
"We should take Bikini Bottom and PUSH IT somewhere else!"
@gazmataz9217
@gazmataz9217 Жыл бұрын
Hi Esper just wondering if you were gonna be doing a druid subclass ranking at all soon?
@esperthebard
@esperthebard Жыл бұрын
That's a good question. It's something I would like to do, though those kinds of ranks take a TON of time to produce and unfortunately the last few I did didn't get much viewing. Let's see though, I would definitely like to breakdown the druid, monk, ranger, and artificer still.
@gazmataz9217
@gazmataz9217 Жыл бұрын
@@esperthebard Hey no worries 👍
@GrimHeaperThe
@GrimHeaperThe Жыл бұрын
17:40 Don't think so.
@alexandrefigs
@alexandrefigs Жыл бұрын
I always find kind of ridiculous that a gnome is able to have 20 strength, the same strength as a Hill giant (that eats gnomes)
@joydjinn8692
@joydjinn8692 Жыл бұрын
If you roll bad enough, you can also have a playable race known for they physicals might, like the Goliath or Minotaur, with a -3 strength modifier. Witch is as strong as an octopus.
@alexandrefigs
@alexandrefigs Жыл бұрын
@@joydjinn8692 true but that more believable, a strong race with duchenne muscular distrofy. But no matter how much muscle a gnome has he wont be capable of besting a giant in wrestling, like, never
@beauberry6179
@beauberry6179 Жыл бұрын
The thing that makes them different is size category. A gnome is Small while a Hill Giant is Huge. They do not carry, lift, push, and pull the same weights. A hill giant can easily push a boulder while a gnome with the same strength score cannot.
@pvhep4036
@pvhep4036 Жыл бұрын
Lots of bats are really tiny, 5 to 20 grams, and it is weird to me they have a strength of two.
@netherwalker1762
@netherwalker1762 Жыл бұрын
Wizards really be sleeping on those animals though, CR 1/4? For an Ox?
@impartialthrone2097
@impartialthrone2097 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what D&D would look like mechanically if the ability scores were a bit more consistent with what we see in real life, at least for creatures that are actually real of course. Edit: Especially when it comes to mental ability scores for some beasts
@ThisNameIsBanned
@ThisNameIsBanned Жыл бұрын
5E simply doesnt have a good "scale" , stuff just gets more powerful but you dont really FEEL the increase in power. Sure its a +1, but thats just not impressive enough. If something has titantic proportions, the max you can roll in difference is a 1 to 20 , so 19 difference between the worst result and their highest, if you have a +20 modifier no matter the randomness, they cannot beat you, thats when you FEEL they are above your level, you cannot beat them, even with all the luck on your side, you cannot do it.
@baryony
@baryony Жыл бұрын
Wait. A knight has the same str with a manticore? Wtf.
@Darkflo23
@Darkflo23 Жыл бұрын
It make me laugh that the creatures designers think that Baboons are weaker than the average person. Apes are terrifyingly strong despite their scrawny and small size, and even a pro fighter would probably get kill by a single baboon.
@camerongunn7906
@camerongunn7906 Жыл бұрын
That's because 5th edition is For Children, while 3.5 is for adults.
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