The Strongest Computer Chess Engines Over Time

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4 жыл бұрын

Computer Chess Engines have gotten stronger each year with current engines like Alphazero, Stockfish, Komodo, and Leela Chess Zero reaching new levels of perfection monthly! Check out how computer engines have developed in the last 30+ years, from weak machines, easily dominated by humans, to monsters!
Notes:
* The primary data source is the SSDF (ssdf.bosjo.net/list.htm) list as collected from online sources and publications in the International Computer Chess Association Journals (later named International Computer Games Association).
* Deep Blue Elo Performance: estimated by perf. against Kasparov
* AlphaZero Elo Performance: estimated by perf. against Stockfish
* Leela Chess Zero Elo Performance: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
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@chess 4 жыл бұрын

Hi everyone! Here are some notes on our data sources. In general, it's very hard to properly benchmark computer engines, especially Deep Blue, AlphaZero, Leela Chess Zero, etc. We used the best available data and plan to publish updates in future as rating estimates for 2020 and further are made available. The primary data source is the SSDF (ssdf.bosjo.net/list.htm) list as collected from online sources and publications in the International Computer Chess Association Journals (later named International Computer Games Association). Deep Blue's Elo Performance is estimated by perf. against Kasparov. AlphaZero's Elo Performance is estimated by perf. against Stockfish. Leela Chess Zero's Elo Performance is provided by the Leela community: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XSJiCcQpCLv0fNwrUn7jXjdkZFU63YFEWpdXv6dSSg0/edit#gid=312836954

@jasonvoorhes6111 4 жыл бұрын

How come Alpha Zero has lower rating than Stock Fish afterall? This engine destroyed Stockfish badly in series of 100 games Stockfish didn't able to win a single game against Alpha

@anupbarua6151 4 жыл бұрын

@@jasonvoorhes6111 watch at 1:56 A0 became first. are you comparing that to latest SF?! what world are you living in

@jeanjean9217 4 жыл бұрын

@@anupbarua6151 1.56 isn't the end of the timeline or of the video tho, at the end of the video you can see stockfish first

@user-mt2jm7vy6i 4 жыл бұрын

Well, there are a lot of wrong stuff there. For example shredder 13 was signifficantly weaker than stockfish at release, it's even weaker than stockfish 7. Komodo was never within 50 elo range in past 3-4 years. Etc. You should use fastgm list for latest data - it's the best and the most reliable one for sure.

@wilhelmcanary-reed7177 4 жыл бұрын

@@user-mt2jm7vy6i That you Viz?

@BirdofHerm3s 4 жыл бұрын

Me: *Plays basic chess opening* Stockfish: Oh? You're playing the kings sacrifice I see.

@vloops7000 4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@alesandro-__-9977 4 жыл бұрын

xDDDD

@stephoningram3002 4 жыл бұрын

I literally laughed out loud.

@brunojose7607 4 жыл бұрын

My secret strategy right there.

@landibart9449 3 жыл бұрын

hahahaha!

@isehaji3792 4 жыл бұрын

1e4 Stockfish : mate in 137

@timonix2 4 жыл бұрын

Not yet. Besides, Chess is believed to be a forced draw. Either player can force a draw with perfect play. It's a really advanced tic tac toe

@L1zent 4 жыл бұрын

@@timonix2 But it has not been proved to be true yet, the amount of possible chess games is exceedingly huge

@marcjohn9404 4 жыл бұрын

With best defense*.

@stonks2622 4 жыл бұрын

@@L1zent 10^120 games.

@YunoGasai414 4 жыл бұрын

That's not how chess works.

@Jo-po2oo 4 жыл бұрын

Stockfish is kinda the shonen protagonist who gets beat up but still gets stronger every day

@rizkyfajarfarhansyah3847 3 жыл бұрын

A determined machine

@CARPB147 3 жыл бұрын

Many people commenting here don't seem to be aware that Stockfish now also runs on a neural network (NNUE+). So it also learns. Just like A0 and Leela. People need to get updated with recent developments.

@lilquinton94 3 жыл бұрын

@Nitish Kumar Magnus put his rook in your open file

@KazuLoafers 3 жыл бұрын

@Nitish Kumar Na uh it's because robots get smarter everyday but dunno why

@MrGriff305 3 жыл бұрын

Stockfish is really Goku as he powers up.

@astrangemed8244 Жыл бұрын

i love how sophisticated all these engine names are and then just, "stockfish"

@w04h Жыл бұрын

"Rybka"

@yXe7777 Жыл бұрын

komodo on top

@samsonsamsonnikov7281 Жыл бұрын

"Fruit"

@dorol6375 Жыл бұрын

Booot

@gtm.r.h Жыл бұрын

meet Mittens.

@SimranjeetSingh-eh4bc 4 жыл бұрын

Me pushes a pawn, stockfish "completely losing"

@caleb-gw8oo 4 жыл бұрын

Me: pushes e4 Stockfish: so you've chosen death then...

@neoatomium 4 жыл бұрын

AlphaZero : Hold My Gambit!

@beena2730 4 жыл бұрын

@@neoatomium stockfish 11 : hold my silicon wires

@justanothercaio1334 4 жыл бұрын

Me: pushes a pawn Stockfish: mate in 20 (for me of course)

@seinfan9 4 жыл бұрын

If you're white, you start off winning before your first move.

@aodantz4161 3 жыл бұрын

1. e4... Stockfish: Really, man?

@birnumara1212 3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😁I can very well relate

@cesarg4328 3 жыл бұрын

Man, Gandalf was getting so good at chess he even competed with machines. He shouldnt´ve retired.

@jasonhe5578 2 жыл бұрын

I mean.... losing to a fish was probably getting tiring

@Njald Жыл бұрын

His was never as strong with the black pieces, that's why he was known as Gandalf the White in his later years.

@cluelessmango768 Жыл бұрын

@@Njald That's genius!

@MoonJung82 Жыл бұрын

@@jasonhe5578 Gandalf mucking around in the forbidden pool again.

@meatdepartment8901 6 ай бұрын

@willpaiz7691 4 жыл бұрын

Wait.. So.. All 1985 engines had more elo than me? :(

@MrCompassionate01 3 жыл бұрын

Even back then.

@IRON--MAN 3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@t54x30 3 жыл бұрын

You're not alone my friend

@Sizmen 3 жыл бұрын

It's not a shame to be honest.

@manictiger 3 жыл бұрын

Me at the dump: Haha, look at this ugly beige thing! Man, why did we ever think that color was cool? Computer: I'm not half as ugly as your chess game, boy.

@trainerred6582 4 жыл бұрын

So the strongest computer that humans were still able to beat was Deep Blue version 1.0, rated +2700. Thanks to Garry Kasparov. Edit: GM Hikaru Nakamura actually defeated chess PC, Rybka, in 2008!! And PenguinGM1 has beaten StockFish and Leela Zero :-D

@suryanshawasthi1815 4 жыл бұрын

2853

@trainerred6582 4 жыл бұрын

@@suryanshawasthi1815 Deep Blue 1.0 was rated 2853? I know IBM improved Deep Blue after Garry defeated it. He was not able to beat it after it was upgraded :-(

@brunobertoldo3220 4 жыл бұрын

Nakamura played rybka in 2008 and won

@trainerred6582 4 жыл бұрын

@@brunobertoldo3220 Wow, so humans could still beat computers in 2008. Now it's impossible xD

@tacitplague7079 4 жыл бұрын

@@trainerred6582 He did "Game" the engine into making mistakes tho, it's not like he beat it in a "ordinary" game his lasted 270 turns xD still it shows the flaws of computer logic at the time

@x0tek Жыл бұрын

This really shows how incredible an achievement Deep Blue really was. Nothing surpassed it for more than a decade.

@rajsingh087 Жыл бұрын

Indeed, it took IBM a whole decade of development time with a dedicated team of engineers.

@Houshalter 9 ай бұрын

It was special purpose hardware, can't really compare it to consumer PC stuff. It also didn't play many public games because they knew it had flaws people would find and exploit.

@Houshalter 9 ай бұрын

Also I just read the description to see where that number comes from. It's based entirely on it's match against Kasparov. That's not a lot of data to judge with.

@keaton718 3 ай бұрын

@@Houshalter I think my wristwatch probably has more processing power than deep blue. Just look at the latest iPhone 15 Pro, the chip is capable of 2.15 trillion floating-point operations per second (flops), vs Deep Blue's 11.38 billion flops. So the iPhone is over 188 times more flops than Deep Blue. Stockfish running on an iPhone will easily beat Deep Blue.

@percy9228 2 ай бұрын

@@keaton718 they meant at the time. iphone has more compute than super computers of past.

@heffalump111 3 жыл бұрын

to put it into perspective: Stockfish has broken the 3600 ELO mark, so they are still growing quite fast.

@yonatanbeer3475 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this video was made before NNUE, Stockfish is considerably stronger now

@DigitalHaze65536 3 жыл бұрын

@@yonatanbeer3475 It makes me laugh at all of the comments saying A0 or Leela Chess Zero are better. Now SF is basically like SF+Leela combined! I speculate eventually they'll let the NNUE run on a GPU while the traditional program runs on CPU, wouldn't that be better than using the CPU for everything?

@autosemimatic6071 2 жыл бұрын

@@DigitalHaze65536 the main reason is because gotham made vids about the 2 destroying sf but it was old

@HrHaakon Жыл бұрын

@@DigitalHaze65536 Depends on what calculations you are doing and how dependent you are on the speed of the two computational systems talking together. The answer is therefore unfortunately "probably, but it depends on the particulars".

@DigitalHaze65536 Жыл бұрын

@@HrHaakon Perhaps in the future with some of the new technologies coming out, like GPU direct to SSD, ect. this will become more feasible. Lower latency RAM would be nice too. AMD also has a system where the CPU and GPU "talk" more efficiently too, right? Video Games certainly use both heavily and at the same time, with "moves" required to typically only take 1/60th of a second.

@largestbrain 3 жыл бұрын

Kinda weird that alphazero self-trained for nothing more than 4 hours and surpassed every single other chess bot

@digitalsamurai42 3 жыл бұрын

yea wouldn't alpha zero beat stockfish if it trained enough games with it?

@jeremythomas4744 3 жыл бұрын

@@digitalsamurai42 it did i think, but stockfish 12 beat it again, and i think stockfish 13 all the more will

@hendrik2765 3 жыл бұрын

It’s insane but you also gotta remember it was not trained on any ordinary computer, but on one hell of a super computer where it can test ludicrous amounts of games a second.

@largestbrain 3 жыл бұрын

@@hendrik2765 exactly, it's insane how much computing power can be used for these things. combined with the fact that it learns by itself instead of running off hard-coded scripts, it's too powerful

@Athinira 2 жыл бұрын

It's kinda misleading to say AZ trained for "4 hours", when it did so using the Google super computers. Had they used a normal computer, it would be training for months to reach the same playing strength.

@EDoyl 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine how cool they must've felt calling the chess computer "Chess 2001". The Future.

@luciano53688 4 жыл бұрын

Deep Blue came in like a wrecking ball back in 1996.

@AlayanT 4 жыл бұрын

Deep Blue was just IBM throwing massive hardware at the problem. Turns out that a big supercomputer with specialized chips beats the hell out of one weak CPU. On the software side, the search and eval combo was arguably inferior to those of commercial chess engines for home computers at the time of the Kasparov matches.

@pineapplesareyummy6352 4 жыл бұрын

@@AlayanT That's very interesting. So it was really just a brute force approach with not-top-of-the-line software at the time.

@anonanon6764 4 жыл бұрын

Deepblue is overrated IMO. It wouldn't have defeated a fresh Kasparov with the right game plan and certainly wouldn't have defeated prime Karpov. Kasparov as a genius tactician was an ideal stylistic match up for the engine. Karpov's solid positional style would have done better to neutralise the machine's tactical strength.

@gkmwheelspin1207 4 жыл бұрын

@@anonanon6764 still can't beat the best engines today

@beena2730 4 жыл бұрын

@@gkmwheelspin1207 ah.. dont bring modern engines into chess.. Chess is boring without mistakes nd innacuracies

@CHRoOMAX 4 жыл бұрын

Chess Engines' Elo: *Develops* Deep Blue: Nah, imma stay at 2853, *mate*

@suezuccati304 3 жыл бұрын

It didnt play any matches besides the ones with kasparov, that's why it has a 2800 elo, and because it was dismantled its rating will remain the same

@suezuccati304 3 жыл бұрын

There's not how to get or lose elo if you dont play the game

@ismayilshukur2332 3 жыл бұрын

Actually deep blue project ended after playing against garry kasparov

@dylon4906 3 жыл бұрын

deep blue was retired immediately after its 1997 win against kasparov. impressive that it wasnt dethroned for another 8 years though

@edgaraldana3205 2 жыл бұрын

@@dylon4906 More like suspicious it took that long.

@deanaraula 4 жыл бұрын

AlphaZero went in like “OUT OF MY WAY BOIS”

@goldenbeardofficial8541 3 жыл бұрын

alphazero is fake google ad

@95sandipan 3 жыл бұрын

@@goldenbeardofficial8541 explain please I want to know

@Katzelle3 3 жыл бұрын

@@goldenbeardofficial8541 Leela Chess Zero is based on AlphaZero.

@goldenbeardofficial8541 3 жыл бұрын

@@95sandipan they made it play against an old version of stockfish and they did not allow stockfish to use tablebases or any opening book and other limitations as well which made stockfish much weaker

@95sandipan 3 жыл бұрын

@@goldenbeardofficial8541 ooo i see thanks..

@dbass4973 4 жыл бұрын

last time i was this early chess engines blundered

@primeobjective5469 4 жыл бұрын

They don't *"blunder"* anymore unless they're on a Lv-4 or below rating.

@nischay4760 4 жыл бұрын

They still blunder, you just don't realize it.

@DylansLappalterCopium 4 жыл бұрын

They blunder to good for humans to get that they blundered.

@BedroomPianist 4 жыл бұрын

Chess engines still blunder, you're just using chess engines to double check chess engines. They're hiding the truth from you, wake up sheeple

@maxkho00 4 жыл бұрын

@@nischay4760 In fact, sometimes we even do realise it. For example, in Plaskett's puzzle, engines suggest promoting to a queen is the best move, which is completely losing. On the other hand, a human player, Tal, was able to solve the puzzle by himself. There were also human games where the human made a move that computers classified as a blunder that was actually winning, but I can't recall any of them off off by heart.

@Atombender Жыл бұрын

After winning against Kasparov, Deep Blue was retired. Still took years for other programs to catch up to it.

@emraldswrd Жыл бұрын

Took a decade!!

@vibovitold Жыл бұрын

i think this is doubtful. it didn't take them that long. the playing strength of Deep Blue is overestimated here. it's only based on the result against Kasparov - very small sample size. this rating should have a question mark next to it at best, as provisional. DB never played against other engines (not to mention other engines weren't running on supercomputers). and Kasparov clearly played below his strength in the match where he lost, it was a psychological issue and a strategy error on his part (he tried to trick DB, assuming it was more limited than it actually was; hence his cheating accusations later on).

@hellstormangel 4 жыл бұрын

Sure these computers might have high elos but they never informed us on the wooden shield technique.

@Meporrr 4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@970A 4 жыл бұрын

LOBSTER PINCER Pog

@kurohaneko8955 4 жыл бұрын

Xqc reference for those that don’t know

@classifier_6611 4 жыл бұрын

That's because it can be easily beat by the Throbbing Scotch variation

@ghosthunter0950 3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the Botez gambit.

@war2theren227 2 жыл бұрын

It's kinda sad how Deep Blue was forcefully retired, just imagine how insane it would've been had the creators been given more time to improve it.

@tonylee1667 Жыл бұрын

Not that great since it's just a brute force engine

@CrankyConniver Жыл бұрын

it didn't use any sort of learning algorithm at all, it only got better because technology got better, allowing it to generate more possible moves. It probably would've still been destroyed by stockfish

@war2theren227 Жыл бұрын

@@CrankyConniver You think they wouldn't have implemented that?

@lred1383 Жыл бұрын

@@war2theren227 adding learning algorithms to a brute force engine means basically making it from scratch, which defeats the entire purpose

@war2theren227 Жыл бұрын

@@lred1383 I believe they would've

@Musaaaa653 4 жыл бұрын

Rumour goes Stockfish checks under his bed at night for AlphaZero.

@dorukayhanwastaken 4 жыл бұрын

AlphaZero is currently too busy fighting a war across a thousand and one boards and some more against Leela. Stockfish should be safe until that war concludes and the victor turns its attention to non-ML engines.

@schwingedeshaehers 4 жыл бұрын

Is alpha zero abbonded?

@sepehrrezaee5505 4 жыл бұрын

@@schwingedeshaehers no

@kiran8656 4 жыл бұрын

@@schwingedeshaehers Yes, alpha zero does not anymore work on chess, it was a one time thing, a milestone for the company

@kiran8656 4 жыл бұрын

Leela is the new beast in town

@rondid 3 жыл бұрын

I used to play Novag (i buy it in 1992, I think). It was not on a computer thought, it was a chessboard (still got it!), you had to press the square with the pieces you want to move and then press the square where you want to go. It had 16 levels, used to beat him on lvl 8 but over level 8, you had to wait like a day (really) before it makes his move.

@sucamchi9872 2 жыл бұрын

Same, my dad owns a 1990 Saitek and it works exactly the same. Pretty cool piece of technology.

@kosuken Жыл бұрын

1:55 I love how Alpha Zero popped up out of nowhere directly to the top (and then dident improve)

@matchesmalone3145 4 жыл бұрын

absolutely incredible. never been done before.

@benjaminjohnson-martin1248 3 жыл бұрын

2010 hits: "And it was in this position that Deep Blue resigned."

@worldcom9868 4 жыл бұрын

me: moves king to the center . Stockfish explodes

@bomber9912 4 жыл бұрын

That reminds me of the lie detector scene in the Simpsons where the FBI agent asks homer if he understood the rules of the test. He said "yes" and the machine exploded lol

@ondrejvolecek7215 3 жыл бұрын

@@bomber9912 Jesus Christ, this is my favorite scene from simpsons. Can't stop laughing. 🤣

@generalgrievous6689 3 жыл бұрын

Bongcloud.

@firstnamelastname7298 3 жыл бұрын

@@generalgrievous6689 nah Kingd4 is called "crackhouse"

@daan8490 3 жыл бұрын

Only way to defeat stockfish is to confuse him with bongcloud opening

@manfredbaedke7599 4 жыл бұрын

Great idea! They have really gone a long way. As a child, I owned the Chess Champion Mk 1 (the first commercial chess computer, I think) which was just a joke. It was interesting to see them rise.

@ogorangeduck 4 жыл бұрын

I got Chessmaster for game boy and it has _weird_ strategy (and also a joke to beat even for me)

@manfredbaedke7599 4 жыл бұрын

@@ogorangeduck I dare to say that the Chess Champion had no strategy at all. Karpov is really one of my favourite players, but I'll never forgive him that he advertised that crap :)

@edp7476 4 жыл бұрын

I'm not familiar with the Mk1. Did that come out in the late 70's? Btw, I still have two sensory chess computers from the early 80's, both made by Fidelity. The first model, Sensory Chess Challenger (SCC) was cheaply made plastic, played 8 levels, and was fun until it began overheating and making weird/illegal moves. The other is the beautiful, well-made SC12 which is quite good actually. It has 12 levels, many nice features, and is still working today. It was winner of the World Microprocessor Chess Championship in Budapest, Hungary, 1983. It's one of the best purchases I ever made.

@MegaUnwetter 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Mephisto chess board from 1996 and its still very strong even for advanced player.

@BobbersDown 4 жыл бұрын

I couldn't beat engines back in 1999, I sure as hell can't beat them now.

@Alan-cm7ye 3 жыл бұрын

This video made me remember chess game in SNES. I chose highest level and it's thinking so long, so i reduced the difficulty lol

@happygood18 3 жыл бұрын

Me VS Stockfish, Stockfish: I estimate that My win probability is 1999%

@SimplifiedPie Жыл бұрын

Two years later and now a cat with 1 ELO can beat them all.

@timesmy668 Жыл бұрын

Mittens loses to stockfish

@hpsanchezc Жыл бұрын

mittens is 3k elo

@Turkeyisbetterthanarmenia Жыл бұрын

its their rank not elo

@SteveIsHavingMC Жыл бұрын

@@sanvirel6182 stockfish 0 diff mittens

@shauryasaket9474 Жыл бұрын

Stockfish cooked mittens each and every time.

@09Drdray 3 жыл бұрын

Gandalfs chess career was modest but impressive

@seand8534 3 жыл бұрын

This was ana amazing quick insight into the last couple of decades. Good job

@noobmaster31 2 жыл бұрын

Watching stockfish play seems like it's making intuitive moves. But then I realize I could never in my dream make the same moves. These engines are way beyond human comprehension at this point.

@phildurre9492 9 ай бұрын

well stockfish isnt, its a database and an algorithm that is well known and programmed by humans. they just compute much faster and better. Alpha zero yes noone can comprehend…

@ace942 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. It was enjoyable to see the various names over the years. Some of those programs I can remember and even had a few of them. Some of them still exist today as apps on my iPhone. Thanks for posting the video.

@henkdevries7573 3 жыл бұрын

For a moment there I though the values represented years, and I got extremely confused at how the people in 1583 managed to program a chess engine...

@imeatingboiledeggrightnow7644 2 жыл бұрын

it could be algorithms written in notes, used as an instruction, with the help of human's hands

@osbourn5772 9 күн бұрын

Mechanical turk

@seanchrisregner3390 Жыл бұрын

Mittens: *"ARE YA SURE BOUT THAT TEE HEE"*

@jolahmapping Жыл бұрын

this is from 2020, el gato meme didn't exist in 2020 and even if this was updated mittens would still not place on this list. STOP THINKING MITTENS CAN GET ON THE LIST

@seanchrisregner3390 Жыл бұрын

@@jolahmapping Amen

@mysteryyter4332 Жыл бұрын

Mittens: *Foolish people trying to mimic a fraction of my power..* Edit: Jesus I didnt think I could start a war, For clarification: This comment was made before ANY 1v1 with Mittens and stockfish

@digestivepikachu3721 Жыл бұрын

dont woosh me but stockfish destroyed mittens

@austinlau2309 Жыл бұрын

@@digestivepikachu3721 yea stockfish beat mittens

@mysteryyter4332 Жыл бұрын

@@digestivepikachu3721 dont worry, this comment was before any 1v1 with stockfish

@vinuzula Жыл бұрын

@@digestivepikachu3721r/ woosh

@HurRaey Жыл бұрын

@@vinuzula r/itswooooshwith4os

@benjaminwasfound2 Жыл бұрын

On December 2022, stockfish has reached a milestone rating 4000 ELO, goes to show that computers can calculate optimal moves far better than what the top human chess grandmasters could comprehend, how crazy

@Yanshiwan Жыл бұрын

In fisher random though, not mainline

@derekbirmingham2244 9 ай бұрын

@@YanshiwanCan you explain the difference?

@2gallon643 8 ай бұрын

It’s known as chess960, where pieces are randomly arranged

@dprdevil1679 Жыл бұрын

Bigest turn in the world ,alphazero defeated stockfish with double attack by bishop and the rook checkmating the king at h8

@junnchigang5128 3 жыл бұрын

1:55 Hi! I'm Alphazero! How are you guys?

@mangeshkharwade7243 3 жыл бұрын

Alfa zero is not a chess engine it's AI why this is in this list ?

@alphazero4587 3 жыл бұрын

@@mangeshkharwade7243 every chess engine is an AI

@darthmath1071 3 жыл бұрын

@@alphazero4587 not really. It depends on what you mean by AI but one could argue that the only true AI-based chess engines are A0, Leela and their xhildren (Leelenstein,AllieStein, SF NNUE, etc)

@alphazero4587 3 жыл бұрын

@@darthmath1071 No, Deep Learning is AI (such as AlphaZero and LeelaZero..) Machine Learning is AI, and even Algorithms is AI (engines made with this kind of AI is stockfish and the older ones). therefore every chess engine is AI, that's very obvious how did you think an engine make very good moves, an AI is eventually just numbers weather it's DL using NN or ML or even Algorithms

@bin4ry_d3struct0r 10 ай бұрын

90's kids grew up on Chessmaster.

@mattemathias3242 Жыл бұрын

I love how stockfish is the chess engine that always increases in elo little by little, but still enough to be the king of all chess engines pretty consistently, the only time it got beaten kinda bad was when google stepped in

@MarkusMollevik Жыл бұрын

I would love to see people making chess engines programmed to do the worst move possible. and then they make the chess engines play against each other to see who can lose.

@mezcxl 3 жыл бұрын

Me: plays e4 first move Stockfish: that blunders mate in 57

@xavier8820 3 жыл бұрын

Actually Alpha Zero play e4 and win XDDDDD

@the_phen0m639 2 жыл бұрын

@@xavier8820 that was weak stockfish stock fish 14 would destroy alpha

@akarshkumar6300 Жыл бұрын

Stockfish crossed 4000...!!

@Will_of_Iron Жыл бұрын

Wait really?? That's f*cking insane!!

@glitch404sans2 Жыл бұрын

What about alpha zero?

@renerpho Жыл бұрын

@@Will_of_Iron Not only insane, but also too good to be true. Stockfish's 4000 elo is for Fisher random chess, not for "normal" chess. Most of the top engines don't bother developing their engine on other variants, so it is not surprising that Stockfish is in a league of its own. As of January 2023, Stockfish 15 still leads the ranking for normal chess with an elo of 3531, followed by Komodo (3530) and Fritz (3512).

@paraconti4738 4 жыл бұрын

This is an awesome and very viewer-friendly video!

@kayapolori8779 3 жыл бұрын

When you see the difference of level between a 1800 player and a 2500 player, you can imagine the difference of level between a 2800 GM and a 3500 computer. Thats just insane.

@Coskunn 4 жыл бұрын

With the last sufi being a decisive stockfish victory over leela, the ranking at the top is actually more accurate than a couple weeks ago.

@suleimansheikh7638 Жыл бұрын

The fact that Stockfish is now 4000 elo

@hamzaa.8082 4 жыл бұрын

Very nice presentation!

@koho 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! A great animation showing how competition drives tech forward.

@Adino1 3 жыл бұрын

I use to play Chessmaster back in the 90's. Nostalgic seeing that icon again.

@cinegraphics 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent animation. And music.

@Christian-jq6er 4 жыл бұрын

I never realized how much I needed this.

@Christian-jq6er 3 жыл бұрын

@Loren Swan yuh

@rexsthegreat22 4 жыл бұрын

Engines: Hey we’re all evolving consistently, let’s see who reaches the to- Deep Blue: 0:41 *It’s free real estate*

@zo__gleb_461 4 жыл бұрын

Shootout to the chess engine Gandalf, may your comeback be legendary

@SkullRocKerEditZ Жыл бұрын

Can anyone tell how come chess bot's elo increasing or decreasing

@ianmoore5502 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if we could use this information to trace the development of technology over time

@janicobrackenmillioniarely1617 Жыл бұрын

*adds mittens*

@hpsanchezc Жыл бұрын

mittens is 3k elo

@jolahmapping Жыл бұрын

this is from 2020, el gato meme didn't exist in 2020 and even if this was updated mittens would still not place on this list. STOP THINKING MITTENS CAN GET ON THE LIST

@RikMaxSpeed 3 жыл бұрын

Would be nice to have the version numbers. And an update for Stockfish 12 which uses NNUE.

@kalbininkas 4 жыл бұрын

What's with chess and fish? Stockfish is dried fish and rybka is little fish in Czech.

@neurophilosophers994 3 жыл бұрын

Would like to see a daily update of this is there a website that shows a graph of their ratings up to today in 2021?

@radar9561 4 жыл бұрын

Someone made this type of video for GO players up to AlphaGO a few years back and I think it was pretty popular. Always wanted to see one for chess engines.

@Janet_Airlines802 Жыл бұрын

I remember all these engines, the original Fritz, and then later the Houdini craze, everyone had to have it 2016-2018. Crazy how fast these evolved from not beating humans to becoming unbeatable. Think of Magnus being 200 points above most GM’s . He’s truly a level above. These new engines are 800 points higher than Magnus! Now we’re talking multiple levels above the greatest to ever play the game.

@AzaleaTFG Жыл бұрын

the fact that alpha zero was still on the board shows how hard it is to get a chess engine to play. really impressive with stock fish!

@szihamidt6611 Жыл бұрын

Wow. This video must be updated!

@IcantDecideOnAnameHelp Жыл бұрын

Me playing a brilliant move Stockfish: *blunder, never ever ever play chess again, you could just go f4*

@abellematheux7632 3 жыл бұрын

When Gandalf learns chess.

@WafflesASAP 2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see this updated for today's engines w/ Stockfish 15 around the corner and Komodo's development continuing! Would also just like to see Fat Fritz get embarrassed for its straight up theft of SF12 and instant obsolescence.

@robertk8829 3 жыл бұрын

I remember so many old engines like Fruit, Rebel, Hiarcs, Crafty, Critter, Spike and Aristarch, List, Delfi, Ruffian, Toga, Wildcat...

@7VlesSiah Жыл бұрын

Deep Blue wasn't 2853, Kasparov reached a peak of 2853. The synopsis on Deep Blue is that Kaspaov freaked himself out and lost.

@DrewPicklesTheDark Жыл бұрын

I'm curious how facing these more advanced computers will effect the way the game is played in general. You know people who grew up playing with these have a different mindset than people who grew up before the 21st century.

@takla2129 Жыл бұрын

whats the difference?

@cicamaca725 Жыл бұрын

Playing against a bot is totally different to playing against a human.

@DrewPicklesTheDark Жыл бұрын

@@cicamaca725 I know that, that's my point. If more people are learning how to play the game through bots, how will that effect things at a macro level.

@renerpho Жыл бұрын

@@DrewPicklesTheDark During the 2000s and 2010s, chess at the top level became a lot more tactical, as players began using engines like Stockfish for training, and to evaluate lines. As a result, the number of decisive games decreased. Remember the +0=12-0 from Carlsen against Caruana? When AlphaZero destroyed Stockfish with its much more aggressive, human-like play, some expected that to affect how humans approach chess as well. I don't think we have seen much of that yet. Maybe it is too early, or maybe that aggressive style requires super-human precision to be successful.

@jermynwalton2696 2 жыл бұрын

I wondering where the cut off point is going to be for the engines? They're getting stronger and stronger. That's really exciting! Won't be long till we see it now. 🙂

@osakanone 2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see a documentary on this concept in line with Down the Rabbit Hole's look into Deep Blue which brought me here.

@prajjwalshuk1a 4 жыл бұрын

alpha zero enters - stockfish - why do i hear boss music leela - hold my computer

@AcesHight 3 жыл бұрын

The only Dark Lord is SF, blatantly beating Leela in TCEC 18.

@dhirajpallin2572 4 жыл бұрын

Was Shredder really above Stockfish and Komodo in 2017? I don't remember that. Also is this 2019 list really complete? Weren't Fire, Andscacs, Ginkgo and Fizbo already in the top 10 by early 2019? I'm sure at least that Fire was well above Rybka even as early as 2017 and was pretty much a top 5 engine ever since then.

@hordechess7629 3 жыл бұрын

Good points, Shredder was probably not above Stockfish/Komodo in 2017, but just happened to perform better in a tournament by luck. Yes, the list is incomplete and Fire should be there.

@hordechess7629 3 жыл бұрын

I think the reason Fire wasn't included is because it is pretty much just a Stockfish fork. It is almost the same as Stockfish.

@prasadsawant22 4 жыл бұрын

Superb job

@omniexistus 3 жыл бұрын

sheesh the iconic Crafty was there for a split second at 2690 elo..I remember thinking it'll be a long time before it's surpassed lol

@vasilejosu3431 4 жыл бұрын

The real revolution started with Rybka.

@pasqualesimonelli1513 3 жыл бұрын

Why??

@joaomdb 4 жыл бұрын

The real top 4 using SF9 and some recent tournaments as an anchor to help people understand: 1. Leela Chess Zero (SV-3010 +17 elo over SF-Dev in TCEC Season 17, 15.9 over SF-Dev in CCC 13 Semifinals and 21 elo over in CCC 13 Final). 2. Stockfish (DEV) (110+ elo stronger than SF9). 3. Komodo (DEV) (63.6 elo weaker than Leela and 47.7 elo weaker than SF-Dev in CCC 13 Semifinals). 4. AlphaZero (50 elo stronger than SF9).

@PhilomathBret 4 жыл бұрын

How do you get 4th place for AlphaZero? I thought the best version of it never lost and it won a bunch of games against Stockfish 8.

@ObiNay 4 жыл бұрын

im assuming you are well informed, so my question is if alpha zero kept with chess would it still be the top engine? And if so, by how much?

@joaomdb 4 жыл бұрын

@@ObiNay Absolutely, they have the resources of google and awesome developers, AZ would probably be 1º, by how much its really difficult to know.

@Arbililbra 4 жыл бұрын

Nunca esperei encontrar um brasileiro aqui

@kub2039 4 жыл бұрын

@PhilomathBret Alpha Zero Chess never lost a game, and it was the strongest when it played Stockfish 8 a few years ago. But it only ever played Stockfish 8, and newer versions of Stockfish, Komodo, and Lc0 also beat Stockfish 8 by even more. ( The current version of Stockfish is Stockfish 11. )

@Jusio Жыл бұрын

Stockfish has 4000 ELO now

@junwei8480 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, now i know which engine i should use

@junwei8480 3 жыл бұрын

@Black Swan55 no

@kirktoufor5991 4 жыл бұрын

Anybody remember the first commercial chess program? I had one in the mid seventies. Sold by RadioShack it had 7 levels. As white if you played anything other than e4 to start it replied d5. It was expensive and such a disappointment. I'd guess it's elo around 1100.

@averageisekaifan 4 жыл бұрын

alpha zero stopped playing

@CARPB147 3 жыл бұрын

In 1976 I got several of the dedicated hardware ones then available under a 30-day money back guarantee. I played them all against each other in mini-tournaments to 6 points. I kept the winner (at that time Fidelity's Chess Challenger) and returned the rest for a refund. I think the ELO of the 1980 version (the Sensory Chess Challenger) was around 1600'ish. It briefly shows up in this video.

@priyanusen8215 4 жыл бұрын

It is lovely that HIARCS never loses hope 🔥

@Aleph1337 4 жыл бұрын

It is so amazing that HIARCS is at that level while having human-like play! I love this engine.

@darkking9836 Жыл бұрын

Deep blue was just chillin at 2853

@pold111 Жыл бұрын

it's crazy how much the standards of chess grew overtime

@pineapplesareyummy6352 4 жыл бұрын

Elo of 3500? Does that mean Stockfish is as crushing against Magnus Carlsen as Magnus Carlsen is crushing against good club players rated at around 2100?

@petrwalek9901 4 жыл бұрын

Correct.

@kasparov937 4 жыл бұрын

Yes......but it would be even worse for Magnus since the engine doesnt get nervous or make blunders ever......

@AQyui Жыл бұрын

I'm here after mittens

@jolahmapping Жыл бұрын

this is from 2020, el gato meme didn't exist in 2020 and even if this was updated mittens would still not place on this list. STOP THINKING MITTENS CAN GET ON THE LIST

@DGA2000 3 жыл бұрын

Stock fish 12 + NNUE just came out and is rated 3690. Ratings like this are incredibly exciting and makes me wonder where it will end. Will it end when no more improvement is possible? Will all games at the highest levels all be draws? I hope I get to see all this play out.

@ignacioperezparra711 4 жыл бұрын

May i ask about Sesse supercomputer and why its not there? Is it not considered an engine? Thanks.

@jonbeckett 4 жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to pair the performances of the engines against the breakthroughs made in their analysis and reasoning. For example - the reason Deep Blue (and Deeper Blue) were so good wasn't just horsepower - the software developers made a breakthrough in getting the engine to make best bets on the move tree, investing effort in promising branches, and disregarding others (there are a couple of really good books about the development of the engine).

@rosomak8244 Жыл бұрын

No. DeppBlue was all about having a simple evaluation function and a deep alpha-beta algorithm search tree. Brute force it was.

@innosanto Жыл бұрын

Ehat did those developers work on next? IBM has many good projects.

@DEEZNUG Жыл бұрын

*mittens has entered the chat (queue boss music)

@hpsanchezc Жыл бұрын

mittens is 3k elo

@jolahmapping Жыл бұрын

this is from 2020, el gato meme didn't exist in 2020 and even if this was updated mittens would still not place on this list. STOP THINKING MITTENS CAN GET ON THE LIST

@dallenishere7783 Жыл бұрын

Me: pushes a pawn Stockfish: checkmate in 35 moves

@starry2006 3 жыл бұрын

Stockfish really needs to bring a book out so people get hyped over it as much as Alphazero

@brettaspivey 4 жыл бұрын

Leela is definitely above SF11 right now, it wins almost all of the matches at this point, stronger by maybe 10 or 20 points

@ivanortakovski3526 4 жыл бұрын

@@basscomputer do you mean stockfish?

@tonys7524 4 жыл бұрын

Also, what are they basing AlphaZero’s elo on? It annihilated stockfish in their matches, and even recently I’ve heard the consensus that it’s the best.

@plasmaastronaut 4 жыл бұрын

@Disscordiab Lorenzo the defining dstrength of A0 was from a match played against SF8 and A0 won 25 games and drew 75. I think there are matches that have set LC0 vs SF8 with comparable hardware and i think the result was LC0 did better than A0. But u will have to find a LC0 expert to evidence this.

@nocontextvideos155 4 жыл бұрын

Strength Comparison Of Chess Champions

@AlayanT 4 жыл бұрын

@@plasmaastronaut It's incredible how much misinformation is out there with that 2017 preprint being quoted to this day. Besides a 100 game sample being trash and playing everything from start position skewing results by repeating many lines over and over, which means minor changes in early preference while keeping general strength identical can have dramatic effects on the results ; Stockfish was badly misconfigured. Fixed time per move, laughably small hash for the hardware and TC.... In the final 2018 paper, the results were +50 elo against SF8 (instead of +100 elo in the preprint) from start position and +30 elo from a set of 50 TCEC positions (despite those being less drawish). Quite the difference !