Hope you enjoy! Soup and I spent a long time playing on these free-to-play accounts lol. Thanks to HelloFresh for sponsoring today's video. Go to strms.net/hellofresh_shadow_destiny9351, use my code SHADOW16FM, and receive 16 free meals + free dessert for life while subscription is active.

My cousin thats in high school came in to destiny 2, never played before, got addicted then realized everything he wanted to access was locked behind a paywall almost $200 to be exact and stopped playing. That is the new player experience imo

I will always remember when I tried Destiny 2 about 2 years ago and one of the very first things an ambient npc said in the tower was something like "Its a shame Cayde is dead." and I was like what? I literally just met him 30 seconds ago.

I think the best thing about the D2 tutorials, is that it teaches how important tutorials are, and how to make a good one by observing everything D2 gets wrong.

As an OG Destiny vet and someone who played Destiny 2 on launch, this video has only confirmed that the game will never be the same. Destiny will forever be relegated to memories of dinkle-bot and finding how high you could get in the OG tower map (I'll never forget finally managing to jump on top of the stone pillar)

Remember back in D1 and the first 2 years of D2 when you needed to be at a certain level to do certain activities and use specific gear, accidentally creating a progression path for players without confusing them in the process?

Genuinely had a blast playing! Apologies if my noobieness caused any frustrations (theres a finisher??!!?) I don't know how qualified I am to give tips for a game like this, but I hope my feedback and suggestions help in one way or another. I'll without a doubt hop onto the game again! Thanks again to Shadow for having me!

15:15 They should ABSOLUTELY make a catalog that includes all the different enemies and locations that you discover along your journey, sort of like a Pokédex.

This was therapeutic. I tried Destiny 2 and kept in it for like 20 hours before I was just like, “Yeah... No thanks.” I tried googling a lot of this stuff but so many things that were not obvious were taken for granted by the guides.

You know what is worse than being a new player? Being an old player, 3 expansions behind, then coming back. You end up with a vault full of useless items, not knowing what to do, you have to pay for 3 expansions and then a battle pass to get all content. It's the only thing stopping me coming back and I love this game.

I really felt when he said “The story is so confusing it makes me not even want to pay attention” even my veteran friends who have been playing since Rise of Iron have no clue what happens in the story. The lore community that cares for the story is sadly a very small population and with the direction the game is going it probably forever will be

i been a day 1 player, and when i decided to delete and make a new character to see how the new playyer experience is i honestly got stuck and confused in that fast travel bullshit at 12:40 too

I quit playing D2 a week after playing beyond light because content that I paid hard earned money for was being removed from the game, i.e. Leviathan. I told myself that I would no longer invest in anything Bungie related. Mind you, I have been a Bungie fan since the original Marathon and my first experience playing an online shooter (remember AOL, yeah I know I’m old), not to mention the Halo franchise. Well, 4 years later here I am. I just got into the game a month ago because of the final shape. Although I am a seasoned Destiny 1 and 2 guardian (raid Sherpa) my experience was pretty overwhelming playing and navigating all the new systems in place being absent for four years. It took me three weeks to figure out that I can purchase ascendant material and upgrade materials from Rahool. My biggest complaint about Destiny 2 is that it is not transparent with the player. The story, the things to do and where to go. It’s one big mess that you need to slowly untangle. If Bungie could do a better not just telling the story, but guide new or returning guardians in a more linear way I think it would be easier to understand and play the game. Yes, I know about the timeline, which is good, but it needs to be better. Bungie needs to do better if they want to expand their player base and create an enjoyable experience. TLDR; I quit playing and recently got back into D2. Things were confusing af. Bungie make it less confusing.

My favorite “oh” moment from my first moment in Destiny is that when I got my sparrow, i drove it around and it blew up. Afterwards I tried to respawn it and it was in cooldown. This made me think I had a limited number of sparrows so I tried to save them by never using them. Didn’t use one until someone explained they are infinite

The fact that one of the highlights of Soup's improvement after 10+ hours is "finally understands the menus" says so much about the state of this game

35:50 "And this was soup's reaction to that-" *cue Linus Tech Tips ad* "Dude this is a horrible gaming experience..." lmao

As someone who played D1 and only D2 for a few months, returning in TFS is 100% overwhelming so I only play PVP 😂

I quit the game the moment they started cutting content and never looked back. Every time I would get an itch to go back, I immediately remembered that a lot of my favorite missions are gone forever, and that itch was gone.

In Soup's defense on the direction finding, a single marker like that on a compass is usually North...

listen, I played destiny from launch day, I beat vault of glass about 2 weeks after, I had amazing runs in ToO but never beat crota before quitting in frustration, 2 days ago after seeing the final shape was coming I said hey let's give it a shot and downloaded D2, I spent easily an hour trying to decide if I should buy and of the dlc's while the game downloaded and as someone who hasn't picked up destiny in like 7ish years I feel EXACTLY like this. I'm only 30 minutes in to this video but I experienced everything just like this, the pop ups, being lost in maps, I accidently wasted 10000 thousands of glitter trying to purchase bounties because I know what bounties "were" but when I pressed the button, nothing happened 😅. I miss my dozens exotics but the game did hand me an exotic solar hand cannon which brought back happy memories of thorn and last word. I was so stunned to see fallen and cabal in the citadel with no context than while trying to sort out what was going on I am now in a long mission aboard a Cobalt fleet. This game really fails a new player expense and I'm not even truly new!

I'm a new player and this video felt sooo relatable. It really is a fun game with so much to do (specially being a ftp game) it has so much content to keep me busy. Plus, the visuals in the cinematics really grasp my attention and make up for the fact that i have no clue what the characters are talking about or who they are lmao! The art style is awesome and i would say that the aesthetic might be my favorite in any video game so far (I'm considering buying a Destiny concept art book lol). However, I will say that before watching this video i thought i was overwhelmed as is, but hearing you describe things that a "new light" might miss or things your friend missed made me realized that i've only seen the tip of the iceberg. I have no idea what an artifact is and never heard of it, and no clue on how to manage my equipment so that i could use all of my perks and bonuses to their full potential. Anyways, this was a really cool video and doubt anyone is going to read this, but hey, im high on a friday night writing shit on the internet. Thank you! :)

As an experienced guardian, I wish there was a "help a new light" option within the fire team finder. Somewhere a solo new light could go to ask an experienced player questions if they are stuck. It would be a great way to interact with the community outside of emotes and the super welcoming teabag

I get it now. Due to D2 having an overwhelming amount of old content that is no longer required or even accessible, being a new player in it is like being freshly born at the age of 18 and having to take a crash course in lanuage and how the world works so you can hurry and get a job, but nobody will give you access to a library or computer, so you have to learn it all through word of mouth or borrowing books from random people in your neighborhood. So basically it's like having amnesia. XD

The only reason i ever heard about destiny was because it was in the same category as Warframe and the fan art of the exo stranger and ada. I had an argument with a friend a few years ago and he asked me "but you play Warframe and that's really grindy how is destiny any different?". the first answer was obvious "why the hell would i pay 80 dollars to see Zavala get his ass beat in a cutscene just for all of it to get wiped in the next update?" for reference this was before i got a job and had to just hope my parents were in the mood to buy me something so while it did feel harsh at the time he gave the kinda of look that wants to say differently that it is better before realizing that is how it is. The second answer was also relatively simple, warframe was the second game i really got into since i didn't always have a pc, i had played world of warships first and i was used to the whole runaround with grinding and destiny was just unfortunate to be the game that i wasn't willing to grind thanks to how tired i was, at least with the other games i didn't have to pay to have a chance to enjoy it vs destiny with its sale's being once in a blue moon. this game though reminds me of the absolute disappointment real life can be where it was like "oh you didn't buy a house in 2008 when you were 3 years old? welp good luck!". destiny in essence is the same, if you were there from the start it likely feels like just a really wonky subscription with each expansion to a game about characters you know and love but for me i spent 30 hours with the only advice to talk to everyone and do quests that i couldn't complete at all, i got sent all over the place complete random quests, the only thing i remember was the areas, the cuts scenes that introduced them and the spirit like armor during the splicer event, it was fun to play it and progress a bit until destiny told me i simply just couldn't get the the things i wanted for pvp or pve to complete a build because i didn't have any disposable income to buy a temporary campaign so i spent most of the time setting up accounts for each class just to never use them. i'm downloading it again to check it out because i can't be unfair to it but since i haven't logged in a few years, i liked the game and the premise but i'll probably just login realize how little there is for me to enjoy and drop it again since i am jobless but at least i can see some of what's changed up until now with the final shape but yeah just kinda window shopping. sorry for the "smol" rant lol

I played Destiny 1 when it first came out. Preordered it and everything. I remember how hyped I was. I believed the game would change gaming forever. When I played it then it just felt…empty? Like there were hints to grander stories and experiences that were being kept from me. Since then that’s been the constant Destiny experience. They drip it out, slowly, quite literally like a drug dealer. Sure the first hits free but after that you pay. Again. And again. And again. It feels like they’re not selling you a complete game, they’re selling you pieces of a game. And I hate it. Don’t get me wrong. I enjoy Destiny. To this day I’m someone who will probably always come back to it. I have long gaps where I refuse to play and then a big expansion comes out, the story gets a major change and the lore draws me in and I find myself fascinated all over again. Just like 2014. But it always leads to that emptiness, like I’m STILL not getting the full thing. Not unless I open my wallet (and my asshole) and let Bungie scrape >$200 out of me. Idk whose decision it was to do it this way. But it just kills it for me. Please sell me one complete game. Expansions and dlcs have a place. But this? This is just an endless blueballing. And I did not sign up for that.

I will never understand how I am supposed to get invested in the game without it past content being available that alone will make me never paly

This video brought back some painful memories for me. I was a Destiny 2 veteran back then and had introduced the game to my girlfriend and a friend. This game had everything they would have loved. After essentially giving a class on how to play Destiny 2, my friend ultimately quit the game, and my girlfriend only played because I did. The whole time I tried explaining the game’s lore to them, I thought to myself, “I wish you could have played the Red War campaign.” I wish the new player experience was much better. I wish I could play it with my friends and have them experience the same thing I experienced. It felt like such a huge loss. I can’t imagine what new solo players would feel. I haven’t touched the game since Lightfall. I didn’t even finish the campaign. I honestly miss it.

All I remember from Destiny 2 is not knowing what or where I needed to go, and walking a lot while squadmates were finishing the mission before I even understood where I was.

My brother was playing through the vanilla campaign - he was almost finished with it. He logged in one day trying to finish it, but everything was gone and he was stuck back in the hub with nothing to do. We paid full price for that garbage, and felt like a couple of fools.

I remember dismantling an exotic because my rare chest piece was higher, because the game never explained infusions at all

Not even a third of the way through, and I just got reminded of something I didn't know that finishers exited for the longest time (same as Soup). When I was doing the free part of the Witch Queen quest, you have to kill a Hive Lightbearer at the end. This means you have to use a finisher on their Ghost. I had to kill the Lightbearer, tab out to Google, repeat that 5 or so times as I learned that you had to use a finisher, then kill the Lightbearer again and quickly search keybinds (repeat this a few times) until I found the finisher keybind. On the bright side, I got good at killing that Lightbearer.

I gave destiny a very good try, i had a coworker buy me the entire expansions, desperate for a new member for raids. And just shoved me in headfirst trying to speedrun me into getting caught up. I was just extremely overwhelmed and quit... Felt horrible about being gifted the game. I offered to pay back my coworker but he's like man i dont even blame you, the new player experience is horrible. Refused to let me pay him back.

12:30 I tried getting my friend into Destiny about a year ago and he encountered this exact bug and quit because of it. The introductory mission should be THE most polished piece of content in the game, not among the least.

As someone who has played this game for almost 10 years now and has always struggled to get people into this game, this perspective helps so much

i started 2 days ago and ive got 30 hours already-I knew literally nothing i never heard of the game never spent any money and i am having so much fun

I started playing a week ago since my brother and nephew had been asking, I hadn't actually played since beta, and I was just dumbfounded with how jumbled and haphazard the experience is. I started off solo in the cosmodrome and immediately got confused about why I wasn't starting during the assault on the tower then I remembered all the sunsetting. I decided to just farm some starting gear in the cosmodrome and eventually logged out after stumbling my way from whatever I assumed was the primary quest, that's where the "fun" began. When I logged back in it had skipped the beginner section and thrown me into the tower, helpful since I got to grab a new class, but then when I chose to leave I was assaulted by a mish mash of storylines and locations with very little if any indication of where to even begin. After that I eventually got a bit overloaded and quit for a few hours. When I came back it immediately thrust me straight into the Witness cutscene and I had absolutely no clue what was even going on, once that ended I suffered that same barrage as your friend of a few dozen redundant notifications that I knew nothing about. Thankfully my nephew got on at the point and gave a guiding hand to some up to date loot and the strand questline but beyond that I lose interest fast if I'm playing solo, there's so many different tabs and subsections upon subsections with sparse explanation. I'm astounded anyone at Bungo thought this was a good intro for new players, I at least have some prior knowledge from my Destiny 1 days but I dread to think how utterly mind melting it is for genuine newcomers I'd lose interest pretty quickly in their position, especially without someone to guide you. My nephew is all into the next expansion, whenever that drops, and while it does look actually interesting I'm absolutely not dropping fifty bucks on it. Unfortunately I'll assume, like my prior experiences with D1 that it'll result in locking me out of a lot of things. I used to love this universe with a burning passion back in endgame destiny 1 but the way they handled the sequel and how you can't truly experience the story cohesively is just a complete disappointment. I remember talking to my nephew about how bummed he was that he couldn't play the red war campaign..the main story...what should be the one story you SHOULD be able to experience at any point. I can't say I didn't absolutely dig the heck out if the origins of the Witness and it being essentially the first race touched by the traveler, and possibly first to discover the Darkness and becoming a manifestation of its will. It makes the overarching story of the traveler fleeing one civilization after another in horror of the slow inevitable threat. The worst part is...I figured this out on KZfaq, as the season in which you get the cutscene explaining this isn't available! It's beyond ridiculous that THE pivotal plot point of all of Destiny is something you can't discover in game, not anymore, I would assume given how their seasons work. I had to watch all the previous story leading up to this about Rhulk and Nezerac, because I have zero clue how to start it or if I even CAN start it anymore, it's just sad man. I watched all the story with Rhulk, Nezerac and the manipulation of the hive gods, it explained a massive amount of mystery and in an interesting way. For just a bit I got that old Destiny thrill of the unknown and things beyond imagination, I only wish I could discover it myself and not have to choose between navigating a cacophony of jumbled or missing storylines, or just watch it all online. Sorry this ended up so long, most probably aren't even gonna read this. I just remember the unbridled passion for the potential Destiny had going into destiny 2 and now that all the pieces should be in place, instead you have the completed puzzle but your dad just came over and took half the puzzle pieces out and told you he'd mix and match the pieces back to you every once in a while.

It's mind blowing to me that you still have to pay for older expansions separately from the most recent one. Almost no other long running game does this. Usually you just have to buy the most recent expansion and that will give you access to all the other ones.

As an early Destiny 2 player, this breaks my heart. I'd been missing the game a lot lately but haven't played since around 2020, it's like it went from a game that was loved by its devs/team to a game that they don't really care about. A game that felt polished once, now seems unfinished.

As someone who just started it's interesting to see Soup having the same little troubles that I did. If I had any complaint I want address it's that this game has 4 menus each with their own submenus. Tab for the showing enemies your phylactery menu, escape for the normal menu, unremappable F1 for the orange menu (which is also a submenu of the normal menu) and M for the black menu (which is a submenu of the normal *and* phylactery menus). You can deposit things in your vault by opening the orange menu while on the vault, but while there you can't open the pause menu to open the orange menu. If you're in a fireteam, escape is now quitting the fireteam, so you instead access the black menu by pressing the open D button in the middle of the screen. The contextual variations aren't insurmountable, but rather than trying to find the game I could be finding the difference between fallen, cabal, hive, vex and finding which character names are associated with which.

clicked on this in my recommended to get the sparknotes. staying the full length for my man soup. osrs community goat.

On the day you release this, I have introduced my friend to this game. He had no experience with it and found all the gameplay fun. The biggest issue he found was trying to find where the hell he was going. Overall, very funny timing, and we're having fun just running around in cosmo for now. He still can't find his class ability tho 😂

Cayde 6 returns: *All veterans cheer* All new light players: Cayde who 😮?

This is Legetimatly not the new player Intro me and my GF got today, this game is really really confusing, and it keeps teleporting us to misions and story lines that told us cade was dead, and took us to the final shape min mission to get the prismatic ability, then took it away when it realizes we dont have the dlc, so we spent an hour in a mission for literally no reason that ruined the story right from the jump.

I got two of my friends who have never played destiny 2 to play recently and after very much explaining they really love it. Once you get the hang of the game it feels so good

This video is probably THE most important contribution to the Destiny 2 universe by any content creator I've seen so far. It is so frustrating to come into such an expansive and storied game only to feel hopelessly lost and unable to ignite a wholehearted love it because you literally have NO IDEA where to go or what to do. If D2 just assigned orientation walkthroughs and explanations in a menu that your GHOST could provide RIGHT at the BEGINNING, that would contain categories in it like "weapons", "Movement", "Mods", "Public events" "Vanguard ops" etc...which your GHOST could enlighten you with, the feeling of overwhelm would be far more short lived. If that were the case a player could just refer to his/her ghost, like they would an encyclopedia, to clear things up better and not feel so isolated and lost. Outstanding job sir!

The biggest W in this video to me was how much of a good sport the friend was

I tried and stopped playing Destiny during the pandemic lockdown after realizing that I was simply going from checkpoint to checkpoint, shooting enemies without any understanding of what I was doing or supposed to do. I remember that I spent 30 minutes shooting an enemie that I was doing no damage at all and not realizing that the other higher level players were actually killing them

I have well over 2000 hours in the game and I only recently learned that heroic public events were triggered by an action and not just randomized events. It's sad that they never explain this.

Tbh… I don’t think I can recommend this game to anyone anymore. The amount of things that ppl have to go through to gain a basic knowledge of the game, plus the skill gap of new ppl to heavily experienced guardians, playing the same game. It’s annoying to hear someone say something is easy, or that I have a “skill issue”, when I’m challenged by a mission or dungeon. Destiny 2 isn’t new player friendly. It is strictly for, and modified around, veteran players who’ve acquired every exotic in the game and solo flawless Master dungeons

3:30 To be clear, HelloFresh isn't incomprehensible, but their insistence on making every recipe "six-step" (or rarely, three-step) leads to mangled pacing and "steps" that are mini-recipes in their own right.

I remember starting back when guardians had to get their light back and save the traveler from Gaul. At that time I never felt lost during my 50h of gameplay

Default open mic with no warning is the most unaware disaster I have seen. Great vid format!

I quit the game a year ago because of how confusing it was to figure out what to do in the game. After I got to the tower, I had no idea what to do next. I got frustrated and just stopped playing. Great video.

Here's a review of the game from me, a random non-veteran Destiny player : When i started playing destiny, i didnt know anything about the important stuff to upgrade my gear, i was just exploring the game and killing things. Sometimes i didnt know the use of what i was looting on my way, and sometimes it was intuitive enough for me to understand their use (like weapons and armors). Also i've never paid attention to the story of the game, i've never played any campaign modes unless it would unlock something interesting like subclasses. To me, this game was more like some kind of Doom-like to me. Then, after 300 hours of playing Destiny 2 like an animal, i've been thinking "compared to the others, my damages are so low..." , so i went on KZfaq to watch tutorials on how to improve my gear, and i've only recently learned how to properly use mods on my armor. I had never paid attention to these before because they lacked details so much that i thought they were worthless.

This video randomly appeared in my feed, and an insomniac who was never really aware of Destiny 2, I figured it was worth a watch. Through the course of the video, my feelings went from "dang, this looks like a cool game" to "hmm, this looks a bit complex" to finally "welp, this is just unapproachable." Your passion for the game really came through, and hopefully someone at Budgie is listening. I generally avoid shooters and online play since my skill and experience is limited. It would be nice for a game like this to be welcoming to players of all experience levels. Thanks for the vid!

As someone who has played Destiny and Destiny 2 off and on over the years, i always have such a difficult time coming back and dealing with the onslaught of new content/information. There have been many times that I wanted to pick Destiny back up, but didn't feel like dealing with the hassle. Its such a shame because the game is so much fun.

What baffles me the most is just how much content Destiny 2 has, which has been straight up removed because Bungie is greedy. But they’ll still let you pay for it! WTH is wrong with this company?

Jez did this with his wife and I’m glad more people are catching on and doing the same! Not everyone’s new player experience is the same

Rarity in Destiny becomes useless with how easy it is to acquire Legendaries and Exotics now

funny i started a few day ago too and i see so many things that happend to me aswell... after the main campain i couldnt figure out what to do and quit. after seeing this( maybe i rewatch this and check out ur channel) i have so many new information and direction. havent realiced many things in the fast pace of the game. the big quest navigation struggle made you kinda rush because u never knew if you are on the right spot/questline. i will try to take more time to read those popups and not get stressed about the overload:) Thank you for that glimmer of hope give it another shot. ;)

I started playing about a month ago and I have learned so many new things. I was that person running long distances because I didn’t know about the boost for sparrows and I was irritated about them being so slow. No idea about artefacts and also confused a lot about the many many quests. Also don’t pay as much attention to the storyline because it is so confusing

They actually made the new player experience worse, starting off defending the Tower from a cabal attack>helping a D tier guardian fight a random wizard

I genuinely hope that the devs see this video. I returned to D2 at Christmas after not playing since Forsaken. I was shocked to find that I STILL ended up getting confused. In the past, a friend held my hand and showed me the ropes but after returning as a solo player, I was overwhelmed...again. I love the game but some of the mechanics are so convoluted and difficult to understand that it turns people off. My Mrs' (who is also a big gamer) gave up after 30 minutes out of frustration.

50:37 So that's how you get more of those! I'm a returning player, who missed their original introduction, and I had absolutely no idea how to get more of those things! If the game ever told me I must have missed it.

My buddy recently tried to get me to play the game. I started playing the tutorial and closed the game before completing the Shaw intro quest. When I booted the game back up, it played a cutscene and took me somewhere else. This game is incredibly overwhelming. I'm not even sure what the game is. Its more of a puzzle game/visual novel than a shooter.

What breaks my heart is that loved D1. Played it day one and made countless memories playing solo and playing with my high school buddies doing strikes and raids. I held off on D2 when it first came out because of the negative press it was getting finally jumping in when it went free to play. Played a bit of the Red War campaign and then bought the Forsaken DLC because Cayde's death was spoiled for me but i at least wanted to experience it for myself. Put the game down for awhile and when I came back I saw that content was vaulted. Been finding it super hard to care about Destiny since then

I've got a story to tell. Back when Destiny 2 was on Blizzard Battle Net, I decided to try Destiny 2, since I received it for free. I had already played Destiny 1 so I had a good idea of what I was doing. I started playing, made my character, did the opening mission, lost my light, got my light back, and got a ship. I followed the story, explored a few planets, found Zavala, got to Io, found Ikora, and right when I found her, I stopped. I don't remember why I stopped, but I think it's because I didn't have any other friends to play with, and there were other games to play, so I didn't get too invested in Destiny 2 but I remember having fun with what I experienced. Titan was my favorite planet for sure cause I loved the constant rainstorms and endless oceans. Fast forward a year and a half and a good friend of mine started playing Destiny 2, he asked me to download it to play with him, and I did. The first thing I got hit with on my already created character, was a cutscene and I was automatically loaded into a mission in an icy place. I had no clue what was happening but I followed it anyway, did the mission, saw varix in a cutscene, and as soon as the mission ended, I got a pop-up telling me to buy the dlc. I was utterly confused. On top of that, the game that ran with very few problems (minor stuttering sometimes) now could barely run on the same pc I used before. I tried to find out how to continue the red war mission I was doing a year and a half ago, and I couldn't find anything in game, not to mention everything looked like how a near sighted person sees without glasses, so that didn't help. I googled what happened to the red war missions, and I found the Destiny Content Vault. Finding out the campaign that I relatively enjoyed, and the different places I liked exploring, just not existing anymore, scorned me forever. On top of that, because the game ran so poorly, I couldn't join any strike missions, because I would freeze and lag out every time. I immediately uninstalled Destiny. Fast forward another year and a half (or so), I have a new computer that can run the game, and the same friend that wanted me to play before, bought me the dlc. I play with him through four full seasons, and I see that nothing has changed. I still can't play the red war, I still can't do any older content, and on top of all that, I couldn't do the season of the risen, haunted, plunder, and seraph, despite the fact that they came out and said they would stop sunsetting old content. It was impossible to farm for old seasonal red borders during seasons 20 and 21, and farming for them through the weekly exotic mission rotator takes so long that it's not worth playing through those missions beyond getting the 2 guaranteed red borders, each week, and also I still can't get season of plunder weapons, and even then, I've stopped doing the weekly missions altogether, because unlocking all the red borders needed through the 2 guaranteed red borders each week takes so long that I've just stopped caring. Out of those 3 exotic missions, Operation: Seraph's Shield is by far the most fun mission for me. I love it. Anything dealing with Rasputin is fun for me. But finally being able to play Operation: Seraph's Shield, made me realize even more, how much I want to play the old content, that doesn't exist anymore. That hurts. Every time I think about it, it hurts, and I'll feel that way every time I play Destiny 2, and I have no reason to believe it'll ever change.

I'm a og destiny and d2 veteran and i got stuck in this prison at 12:20 more time than i'd like to admit (at least 5 min running around wondering whats wrong)

The transition into the commercial was immaculate 😂😂😂💯

Soup's comment about how the gunplay feels great really resonates with me. It's the one part that makes me long to play again. Never played another game where just using the weapons feels so viscerally satisfying. Haven't touched D2 in years now, they lost me some time after beyond light (I think.) Still, every few months I get this spark in my mind going "OUGH, I would shoot some Destiny guns for a bit right now"

I vividly remember getting my friends into destiny 2, long after I did, I literally had to sit them all down in a game of private gambit to get them all to understand the core game mechanics (finishers, etc.), basic buttons (binding a charged melee and uncharged melee button separately), what each class does (a lot of them quickly decided to swap classes after my explanation), and a basic sparksnotes version of the lore so far, because none of them remembered anything from the cutscene and the in game tips were so vague and unhelpful. This video brings all those memories back, so good job Shadow 👏👏

Started D2 a few days ago due to watching some lore videos and getting very intrigued. I faced everything soup faced here but my experience was somewhat better since I simply accepted that theres a metroc ton of systems and simply sped through menus. Kinda like "dont try to understand it, just let it wash over you". Running Arcstrider class. There are things in this video that i didnt know at all, such as power weapons dealing bonus damage to shields, which makes me think that i must have definitely missed out on a lot of other important core mechanics. Will definitely join shadows discord to learn more

this video made me realise how lucky i've been to have been a destiny 2 player since release week, also good on you for getting him the expansions, i wouldnt want to imagine the disappointment for him to find out he has to spend all that money on lightfall to get past level 6 etc.

I remember when I first got into destiny 2 there was some invincible enemy that oneshot me with any attack just blocking a bridge that I needed to cross in the tutorial and there was no other way around it. Turns out it was some kind of event boss and I literally could not progress past this point in the tutorial as it was literally impossible to get past the enemy without being hit by multiple oneshot aoe attacks so I had to wait till my friend who was already playing the game came and let me ride across on his sparrow so we could avoid being hit and let me progress the tutorial. That is exactly how much Bungie cares about the new player experience, they literally don't even care whether or not new players can complete the tutorial and actually play the rest of their game lmao

They need to have like 10 people that have never played the game, play the new light stuff and on what to do after that, record and write down there findings, and make adjustments off that and repeat the process until perfection

Learned so much and I’ve been an off and on player for years you take a break come back and the game is completely different. I love the game and will continue playing. I’m not dropping it anymore but so much is lost in time. Learned a lot keep up the videos

As a returning player, I'm actually having similar experiences. I stopped playing during Curse of Osiris, 7 years ago. I chose the New Light quest because I hadn't run through the tutorial since the launch of D1, and I wanted to ease back into the game. Another interesting thing happened though. Just yesterday, when I tried to log back in (my second time logging in since reinstalling the game), it immediately threw be into the quest for entering the Traveler's pale heart. I haven't purchased any DLC or expansions since returning to the game, and here I was, thrust into the new quest without even selecting it in the directory. I didn't even see my ship in orbit, it was that immediate. Also, I didn't really find the opening that helpful. I don't know anything about "The Witness," I don't know what "The Final Shape" is, I don't know why there's a green triangular portal on the Traveler. As soon as I had control over my character after the cutscene, I immediately returned to Orbit because I wanted to ease into the game, not dragged involuntarily into a new story quest.

fun fact: if you have a legacy account and return to D2 the game forces you through the new tutorial! I found this out when I returned to the game a while back.

I recently created a brand new FTP account as well, simply for the challenge and to see what the experience was like. This video does a FANTASTIC job of showcasing the strengths and weaknesses of the new player experience. I hope Bungie sees it and learns from it, either with future D2 updates or a potential D3 some day.

I went back to d1 after playing d2 for a couple years and I realized I loved d1 so much better!

I just started this game with my gf and her friend. They've put thousands of hours in this game and the only advice u was given before hand was just to stick with it until later on. I'm about 10 hours in now and I'm learning stuff myself and enjoying the game

I started playing destiny 1 when the house of wolves dlc came out, and I put so much time into that game. I played destiny 2 on launch and enjoyed it quite a bit, even though I didn’t think it was too great. I only stopped playing Destiny 2 when the first dlc came out and I thought “ahh I’ll buy it when I have the money”. Fast forward to 2023. My friend and I decided to play through destiny 1 again for old times sake, and we had so much fun doing it. Playing through the original campaign, and the dlcs, getting the exotic swords. It was still amazing. And then when we had kind of done most of the stuff we could, we decided to play destiny 2. And I was immediately confused to how different the beginning was, it was literally the beginning of destiny 1 which was confusing as hell. What happened to the destiny 2 campaign? Why were some planets missing? We played for about 2-3 hours before realising that we couldn’t really do anything without purchasing all the dlcs. so we stopped playing. And that’s 2 people that actually played Destiny 2 on launch, so I can’t even imagine how confusing it must be for a someone completely new to the second game.

I had never played Destiny before last month, I hopped in with one of my buddies who was a veteran. I made it about two days before I hit multiple pay walls and just dropped the game completely. There's no way I'm going to continue playing a game that I have to pay for content that I'm not even sure I want.

I just started playing Destiny 2, I was stuck in that same room for 20 minutes because of that fast travel notification not showing until I eventually figured it out

you dont have to stumble across the year 1 shader bundle to get shaders for glimmer! you can also buy a couple shaders from Ada-1, who is tucked into an obscure corner of the tower away from anywhere new lights would need to go. i wouldn't be surprised if new lights never notice they can leave the bazaar and go to the area where ada-1 and the drifter are, or if they do and never notice ada. i think some location vendors sell shaders too, but i might be misremembering and they only sell emblems.

Back when Lightfall was released a friend of mine installed Destiny 2 and tried to get into it, only to deal with the metric tons of cutscenes every time he booted up the game. By the second or third day he had enough and uninstalled it, even went so far as to remove the game from his steam account because he fed with so much thrown at him despite being brand new.

PoV: You get your friend addicted to crack. Not healthy for you in the slightest but feels really good in the moment.

9:10 its also worth noting that sometimes even when you use your ghost, the triangle STILL doesn't appear for some new players. Happened to me while replaying just a couple days ago and when i looked it up, apparently its a common issue with these new starting missions

I love Destiny 1‘s year 1 progression system. Players nowadays are pampered. Exotics used to be much more rare and legendaries came towards the end of completing the core game. Rare and uncommon items were less of just placeholders and one just got used to getting the feel of a variety of blue weapons armor and gear before acquiring their legendary counterparts. Not to mention, the gjallerhorn was an exotic that not everyone ever got which added some cool mystery and motivation to grind. I never unlocked Thorn in D1 and kinda miss having to rely on more rng to get certain exotics

I played D1 for years religiously. When D2 first came out. I played for maybe a month or two before life got too busy. I decided to start playing again 2 months ago. I was not excited about having to pay all that money to start playing again. There was SO MUCH going on. I know people complained about it being "boring." But it was insanely overwhelming. I found it very confusing to stay "on tract." I found myself playing a couple quests from one DLC. Then switching to another. And then going back and forth. Since there is so much going on. I didnt even realize for a month i didnt even START ghosts of the deep, because there was just too many other things going on. Starting a new character just seems like a nightmare having to go through it all over again.

I played Destiny from 2014 until a few months ago. Bungie completely butchered this game, sucked the fun out. It’s a shame really.

Yah, cold boot can still break very easily, but most of the time, if you run back a short distance until you trigger a voice line from ghost or something like that, it will pick up again and you can continue. It can happen as early as moving from the first zone where Shaw is to the moth yards. Then suddenly the marker doesn't show in front of you anymore. If you notice, it's behind you, because you somehow missed a trigger point. So you have to go back to the other area until it triggers and you can go on. Then in the old facility where it goes on, if you enter the building and ghost doesn't say the line about it being a golden age facility, you missed something. Or when you get to the second or third room, where the arc energy is filling that doorway, if he doesn't say a line there, you have to go back until you hit the spot that triggers it to move forward. Otherwise, you get that spot you show in the video where the marker is on the floor and you can't progress. I've restarted with toons of all three classes many times since the game came out. So I've run into it a lot. In some ways, i's a lot like how that first tower mission used to be, where if you clicked a character that you were supposed to talk to before ghost finished speaking, it could screw up. It sometimes still can, but they've mostly fixed that one. We know to watch for that stuff now, but new players wouldn't know that, and could end up lost/stuck and frustrated.

"OH I DIED- Wait no I didn't" Is such a hilarious reaction to the powered punch

i love your "10 stages of a" videos. My favorite one is the hunter one, shows me what stage im on in my hunter journey

Honourable mention: Remember how new lights were forced into playing DOE when it just launched lol. I'm part of the operation saving new lights and I can tell you they are absolutely rekt left and right with low power levels and had nothing to counter those champions lol, I can imagine how frustrating for new lights having to stuck at the mission for hours not knowing what to do at all lol

Its been years since i played, What i remember is I did the tutorial, got to the main hub city place, went back to the area i was at before to do a quest, i fought some guys in a building then it said i need 4 players to continue or something like that, so i sat for like 45 minutes running and circles waiting for players to join so i could finish that fight and no one did... i stopped playing after that.

Fun fact about the Armor Mod tutorial at around 48:10 (or lack-there-of), there IS a tutorial, but it only ever comes up the first time you open the mods section from the initial inventory (hitting right on the D-pad/keyboard directions) and it does a decent job of running you through the different mods. The only issue is that the game literally never tells you it exists or to open it.

My game group tried it on a whim last year when we realized that Darktide didn’t get much better after the beta. One of the guys quit the game in frustration after an hour because none of us could figure out how anything actually worked. The rest of us didn’t last much longer than him The experience for brand new players is genuinely awful and it's a shame that the gunplay is in a game that seems to not want you to play it

This was a great video and can agree with everything that Soup said. Everyplace in the game where he was confused was also my points of confusion. I did a lot of Googling and playing with friends in order to figure out the mechanics of everything Destiny has to offer and still feel like I've just scratched the surface.

I tried to play Destiny 2 with Forsaken. I have played Destiny 1, but I was just confused on what missions to do with Destiny 2. I ended up messing around on Mars (I think that was Warmind content). It felt like nothing I did was really helping me progress. I got missions that asked me to do public events that were impossible to solo without anyone else doing those events... Just gave up in frustration after failing to solo multiple public events in a row that didn't seem to scale to the total lack of other players.