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@@Rad_King do itttt

@@Rad_Kingwhen need a part 3 and 4, a movie and finally a three hour long with commentary and no ads.

We need tato lore brother

@@Rad_King you better do it

The OG does have some similarities to the 2nd edition style bolters, and the updated FO3/NV/76 versions look a little more 3rd ed/Modern Bolter.

I was thinking the same thing. Or Dreads weapon or some old Heavy Metal magazine weapons.

@@JobeStroud isn't Dred also part of the visual theme sort of influence on some of the aspects of 40k, like with the hive cities? At least I saw a fair few folks drawing parallels and comparing small things from 40k's universe, specifically on the Imperium's visual design, with stuff from Dred. It's pretty interesting stuff, I think! Edit* Definitely can see how a lot of media from those days tended to go in that kind of similar stylistic direction, like the big steel box with a handle and a magazine being the distinct gun of a stocky overly-roided-up metalpunk "human of the future" with the silhouette of a WoW dwarf-orc hybrid. You see that shit a lot in multiple types of media. - And the early Metzen signed concept arts for Warcraft 3 also come to mind.

10mm SMG is Browning M2 without barrel turned backwards, and that thing that looks like a folding stock actually M2's mount

Pipe sub machine gun

Handmade Rifle with Short Barrel and Pistol Grip.

Right? The ten-mill' could easily have seen its own dedicated prewar SMG... even the .38. Though, I've never determined whether the smaller rd. is for autoloaders or revolvers. Heck, a Power Armor-only .44 SMG could have been interesting.

It’s one of the many fatalities of the weapon customisation system. It is weird that you can’t make a 10mm pistol into a 10mm SMG. Would’ve been fun if the 10mm became a super moddable platform :,(

Technically the combat rifle and radium rifle are smgs and atomatic pipe rifles are called "pipe submachinegun". There are also alot of other guns that can fill the role of an smg. Fallout 4 has a lot of problems with the weapons, but a lack of smgs isn't one of them.

After learning about the Silver Shroud quest, I made a character specced into automatics. It STILL wasn't very good, I had to use a .44 to do the quest : /

Degenerate Dak's Attachment pack gives more attachment options, plus he has a mod that makes the guns better balances and better drop.

I ran Antistar's Tommy Gun mod for some months - great stuff, and the ol' warhorse deserves it. Nowadays I'm running Degenerate Dak's Attachment Mod, which lets me equip stick mags again, and even turn it into the Alien/Aliens Pulse Rifle 😆 - Attachment PACK, sorry. How did I miss that? 🤭

​@@Gyrfalcon312 Someone just made a patch for the replacer and attachment pack if you want to use them together

@@alecdickens1042 Yea I think the dmg of the Silver Submachine Gun is capped out at like 14 or something. Every time I run a commando build and do the quest I cant hit 20 dmg/shot regardless of how many ranks of commando or any other dmg perks

Kristy Swanson played Buffy in the movie

​@@nickkilgore3891 Thats the movie, the show came first which starred Sarah Michelle Gellar.

​@@Free_Krazythey're just purposely being obtuse

The Call of Duty zombies map Call of the Dead had Sarah Michelle Gellar play a fictionalized version of herself and there is a quote she can say that goes along the lines of an SMG for SMG if she gets one out of the mystery box

The full-auto receiver and any stock with the appropriate keywords added to them should suffice for the INNR, I don't have the dn_commongun memorized but I think this applies to all guns in Fallout 4. Barrels usually just have keywords the INNR uses to add some prefixes to the gun and not rename it altogether.

Stub barrel only, to achieve that name (apart from you custom-naming it).

Remember to bring the Silver Shroud outfit to Far Harbor for the whodunit crime quest in the vault.

Just remember to take proper rest even if you are prepping for festival, fatigue breeds mistakes and mistakes carry a cost

​@vexile1239 I'll never frown on folks looking out! Good on you. Fret not, I do make time for R&R (and even a little Fallout)

What kind of work do you do?

@@Gyrfalcon312 we build period accurate arms and armor with our primary focus on shields. And some wood art as well.

@@birchouse Best of luck to you, come festival time! 🤞🤞 that you do good business.

The .45 auto in nv was the worse performing rifle tho only outperforming the Bozar in automatics

12.7mm submachine gun my beloved

@@Scuzz1204 The Bozar is such a confused weapon. It's like a full auto sniper, which doesn't make any sense. But it's pretty good in VATS.

You can see a similar thing on the original 10mm smg. Except that it looks like the wire brace/stock folds over the top of smg, kinda like the irl scorpion stock

Do you play with mods? Because if you do you might have had a mod installed that gave it a Legendary effect.

@@thegreywardenherald8923 I played on Xb1 before they even had the creation club stuff set up. The only thing I can really think of is that I must've gotten a random legendary around the same time and just had the memories get jumbled up at some point.

I remember watching someone playthrough on youtube release just like 1 or 2 month after the game released and he was showing the legendary effect too. could be weird mixed up but yeah

It could be that there's an extremely low chance to get the silver Submachine gun from a legendary drop. I once got a deathclaw gauntlet and an automatic laser musket from legendary drops. Both are supposed to be unique weapons. It may be intentional but considering it's Bethesda and how low the chance is it might also be a bug. I only got those two and maybe a third in a thousand hours of playtime.

i also remember this

I am surprised that plans for Stens and Sterlings weren't already in Vaults as a better alterative to Pipe guns. the MPL would be great.

​@@drivanradosivic1357 yeah, I would expect Stens, Sterlings or even something like the Luty SMG in vaults. As default equipment for vault security. Well, at least they got 10mm pistols, which feels appropriate enough. While it isn't clear what exact 10mm caliber they use in the Fallout universe, it seems it had more success than 10mm Auto and .40 S&W here. And the fact that we see pipe guns in pre-war saves, means that even before the bombs there was demand for unlicensed production.

@@HappyBeezerStudios right? Stens and Luty would make more sense as a Pre and Post war junk/makeshift tech semi and full auto platform. the MPL SMG is a Walther design and looks like it would fit Fallout, plus the 10mm SMG would also be fitting. If the Bethesda Fallouts used varied Calibers instead of "one caliber can mean all the variants" then that means both 10mm Auto, some sort of Fallout 10mm and .40S&W would all have gun options. the Vz61 Scorpion would fit for a Machine pistol option, as would other things. also, if you think about it, why should we just have a g3, Micro Uzi, Walther PPK and such on perk cards only and not as weapons options?

With how much it resembles an H&K SMG, and the fact that it is even made by them, I expect push pins.

with the reveal of the Sten and Sterling(and I know both use 9mm, but this is Fallout, so other calibers can be used), we could have had a Sten as the .38 caliber SMG and the Sterling .45 caliber SMG for early game and the Tommy gun the mid game stronger option, but we got that thing instead. Ormake the Sten a early game .38 and Sterling later game, with the .45 caliber SMGS getting a junk tech early game variant and later game getting the Tommy gun.

I have a bunch to remaster from ye olde days, so there are still several more to go through

also the radium rifle and combat rifle

and the pipe guns use pistol calibers. I would have prefferred both pistols and SMGs as options for the small calibers.

To be fair, the border between SMGs and MPs is pretty muddy. Both use pistol rounds, there are MPs that can attach a stock and in other languages both terms are the same. And yes, the MP in MP5 stands for machine pistol, same with the PP in PPSh-41

@@drivanradosivic1357 I would expect a lot more caliber conversions. It's the post-apocalypse, so you use what you can find. So more than just .38 and .45 for the pipe guns. Where is a .44 conversion? What about 10 mm? What about some crazy raider putting .308 or 5.56 mm in one (besides the bolt-action version)?

@@HappyBeezerStudios I would prefer that the Pipe guns are a low power caliber gun platform with better machined weapons as a platform for more powerful stuff. for example, the Pipe bolt action using .44 or 5,56 makes sense for me, but not .308 or Heavens forbid .50BMG. a Boston Commonwealth equivalent of the Varmint rifle that you can mod with more powerful rifle rounds on the other hand makes sense and for the Hunting Rifle as well. A proper Anti Material rifle would also be appreciated, along with proper calibers for it. the DSK semi auto rifle also fits as a option. same for a lot of cool stuff. Pipe gun and junk tech equivalents for early game options with better Machined guns as options for use would be great.

Is it not the Tommy gun?

@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Yes but a bit closer to the WW2 M1 rather than the M1928 version gangsters and the other games use more

It's stylized after the Thompson M1A1 it's basically a super simple version of the Thompson (forgotten weapons did a series on the Thompson if you want to learn about how it changed)

It's a more accurate version of a Thompson than the fallout 4 version, so it's bizarre he didn't include it in that section

for the Tommy Gun vs .45 SMG, the Tommy gun is a Thompson 1928, while the .45 SMG is the M1A1, so that is why that is different.

The only true way is to move every slider to one side and enjoy the hideous creation.

A lot of people’s arachnophobia, including mine, would make the game a real uncomfortable experience.

I think Rad spiders would have been cool to fight, but I understand why that is a bad thing for others. RadSpider venom as a mod ingredient for a melee mod and Syringer ammo would have been cool.

​@@jamesvillanueva5187 so you dont like skyrim then?

I have no evidence for this, but my headcanon is that radiation effects the spider's ability to build webs, which is why they didn't survive, but that's just something i made up

​@@theonlyplainThat's the case for me. Will never play the vanilla game because of it (I'm sure someone has modded them out by now) no matter how much my friends try to talk me into it.

They do say 40 mike mike for grenades I guess.

​@@Del_S I've only ever heard ex- or current military personnel (Zach Hazard, for example) regularly refer to 40 mm in military phonetic alphabet. Hehe. It sounds cool, not sure how it's not said that way more, among civilians.

If I remember correctly F:T BoS has damage per bullet in burst mode nerfed down, but hey - it's a burst, player gets 5-6 rounds on target that way so there's still incentive to use SMGs

the Sten and Sterling as a early game pistol caliber option and a normal version fo the Deliverer would be great to ahve.

I was under the impression Fallout's 12.7mm was a .50 AE equivalent, which *would* be a pistol cartridge and would make more sense in the 12.7mm pistol as well.

Not to mention, shooters need to fire subsonic rds. for the quietest report. Though, H&K recommends that MP5SD users fire full-powder-charge rounds...

it's just a flipped Browning M2 receiver.

The BAR also showed up in NV's Dead Money DLC.

Marry Christmas! ;)

_rat-a-tat tat_ Aa, hahahaha!! Aa, hahahaha!!

Apparently HK has more success in OG Fallout timeline. There's 10mm SMG from them in F1 and a plethora of weapons in F2, including G11 that barely left prototype stage and HK CAWS shotgun that never left that stage.

in regards to the Pistols vs SMGs, no. it is not redundant. Pistols and Machine pistols would be the super light automatic option while the SMGs would be the two handed Pistol caliber sprayers. or another way, Pistols and Machine pistols are accuracy by marksmanship, SMGs are accuracy by volume design. plus as an Arsenal Appreciator, I wan more good guns to play with. If you look at the FO4 perks and FO76 perk cards, you have certain guns as perk image only and not as a option to play with. The Machine pistol is a Micro uzi like and would have been great to play with, the Covert operative uses a Walther PPK aka Covert pistol, that would be great to play with. Commando uses a C3 or R91, that wou;d be great to play with. The Handmade Rifle aka AKM has skins that turn it into a M16 like Assault rifle, that would be great to have on it's own. M14 aka Auto Garand like guns would also fit Fallout. Actually a lot of WW2 and Cold War weapons would fit Fallout. Sten and Sterling would be great mid game replacements for the Pipe guns with pistol calibers.