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The Success and Mistakes of Omega’s Underrated FOIS Speedmaster (CK2998)

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IDGuy

IDGuy

Күн бұрын

A Discussion around the Omega Speedmaster First Omega in Space. A watch that was discontinued a few years ago but throughout its tenure (2012 - 2020) it has become a cult classic. From its smaller size through to using Alpha hands and a straight lug case, the design of the CK2998 remains one of the best & is a fraction of the price of the coveted Ed White. Why aren't we talking about this watch more?
#omega #omegaspeedmaster #speedmasterfois
Intro 0:00
Speedmaster History 1:44
Ed White vs CK2998 2:48
The FOIS Speedmaster 3:54
The Many Design Mistakes 5:02
CK2998 Development 6:02
Closing Thoughts 6:36
Conclusion 7:17
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@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
The First Omega in Space Speedmaster is still my favorite for many reasons. Not everything about it is perfect BUT it remains as one of the only modern "Alpha Hand" models we've ever been given. With so much attention on models like the iconic "Professional" and Ed White Reissue, where's the love for this Classic? What's your take on this piece? 🥃
@Reventon777
@Reventon777 Жыл бұрын
On May 30th, 2023, I received my FOIS. Back in 2019, on a trip to Vegas, I stopped by a watch store and this watch stood out to me. I didn't know much about watches at the time but to me, it looked perfect. My best friend in the world, my biggest inspiration, my step grandfather, who treated me as if I was his own son, was project supervisor for the Mercury and Gemini space capsules. As a kid, I would sit listening to him for hours telling stories about working with the Mercury 7, Gordo and Gus stealing his 63 split window fuelie Corvette, putting water skis on Jackie Kennedy. He passed away 5 years ago and this watch reminds me of him and all the incredible leasons he taught me. I'm a one watch person and I don't see myself ever wearing another.
@CornelisWH4303
@CornelisWH4303 Жыл бұрын
The FOIS is easily my favorite Speedmaster. I'm wearing mine right now. Thank you for this review.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
I was so close to picking one up at the beginning of the year... it's that straight lug, alpha hand style that gets me every time. When a sophisticated watch has that touch of dressiness to it's design... always gets me 😉 A pleasure to share this Cornelis and thank you!
@wristpresence___
@wristpresence___ Жыл бұрын
Great to see the FOIS getting some love! It's criminally underrated and I think will gain more appreciation as time goes by, especially after it was discontinued about 2 years ago. It was my first proper watch and got me into the hobby. I wanted a speedmaster and opted for the FOIS due to it's smaller dimensions and more unique look compared to the pros. I consider it to be the "dressy" speedy and stands apart from all the others. When it's on the Forstner flatlink bracelet it completes the vintage look. These have jumped up in value since being discontinued and I think that says a lot about this piece. It's a keeper for sure.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Agree fully. A real underrated gem and it'll continue to garner interest over the years. Love that whole "dressiness" quality to a professional watch - it adds a different dynamic all together. Excellently said brother and thank you for this (straight lug Omega cased models will always have a special place in our hearts 😉🥃)
@Psyko1233
@Psyko1233 Жыл бұрын
Great video! A dream watch which became a reality when I picked it up 3 years ago and the salesman telling me that I couldn’t choose a better time to purchase it because of the discontinuation without knowing about it. To this day, it’s my most worn watch, the watch I wore at my wedding and still have the same feeling every time it’s on my wrist just the way I felt when I had it in my hands for the first time. The reason of choice was simply because of the smaller case, the dressy look with the alpha hands, applied logo and the straight lugs. A true icon indeed that will forever stay in my collection. Cheers!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this brother! There's such a great feeling with all of these more classic pieces. I feel exactly the same about my Seamaster '57 (now even more so after a few life experiences) 🥃
@kairiri
@kairiri Жыл бұрын
My missus isn’t a watch lady, but the FOIS she absolutely adores, if slightly too big. So I got it her for Christmas a few years ago. Keeps great time, looks great on the brown leather strap, but it has problems with fogging without going anywhere near water.
@kairiri
@kairiri Жыл бұрын
@@IDKline thanks for the advice
@sohmichael6718
@sohmichael6718 Жыл бұрын
What makes First omega in space more meaningful is like it’s the first step into a new frontier. Eg. 1st baby steps; 1st birthday; 1st time into the pool. After that, it’s just a matter of going further & further, like going to moon or Saturn is like swimming 50m to 100m or from walking to running.
@olliewhite2844
@olliewhite2844 Жыл бұрын
As someone who’s been on a list to get an Ed White for over a year I think this is exactly what I needed to hear. Another great video!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
I feel you... Something tells me that these FOIS pieces could supplement those who are waiting for the Ed White. It sounds like the wait is something like 3-5 years at this point 🙄Blows my mind actually 🥃
@oliverkuno8679
@oliverkuno8679 Жыл бұрын
I have to say, for me you are one of the best watch channels on youtube! I like your approach!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
That really means a lot Oliver, thank you 🥃 Like so many I'm just trying to weave my way around this never-ending hobby 😆 Truly, thank you!
@davidb5720
@davidb5720 Жыл бұрын
For me, it’s a proper icon. Pre Professional era Speedmasters are so cool. The photos of that first space walk with the watch on the wrist are as impressive as the first moon walk. Proper history right there 👌
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Also just love the fact that many of these were personal watches, bought by the astronauts before any contracts were signed with Omega 😉 Makes it even cooler to think that they saw the potential of these watches even before they were tested and verified 🥃
@davidb5720
@davidb5720 Жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy exactly! They went shopping for a watch they could use in space! There’s no better endorsement than that. So cool 👌 No wonder Omega are proud of this watch
@EP-yi3gy
@EP-yi3gy Жыл бұрын
So many different variations of the Omega Speedmaster. What I appreciate is the fact that for a watch enthusiast, should they really want to, they can get into one. From the simpler 3511.50 (and variations) all the way up to a professional. I always saw an Omega Speedmaster on a dark leather strap as the perfect sunday coffeeshop / book reading watch. Great video - thank you!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Those dark brown leather straps on Speedmasters... man... you read my mind! Freaking love them! You're absolutely right on all accounts. It's insanity to think how many variations there must be today. Probably more than 1000? Thanks as always brother 🥃
@kasu1033
@kasu1033 Жыл бұрын
What I love the most about CK2998 is its proprietary use of hands - silver leaf for time and white baton for chronograph.
@craig2100
@craig2100 Жыл бұрын
These are indeed iconic in design, but it's the variance of each edition that makes them special. Thanks for sharing. Love your channel.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Classic straight lug Omega cases... ah, I cannot get enough of them! A pleasure to share this Craig and thank you for taking the time to check out the clip! 🥃
@Jr55amg
@Jr55amg Жыл бұрын
My first luxury watch was the FOIS after saving up for years and wanting a speedmaster since im 11 years old. I've bought it new 6 months prior to its discontinuation and I'm so happy I did. This will never leave me. It's so special to me I wore it last time to my wedding which was a year ago and bought a 1861 Pro as a daily because i find the FOIS to special for me to be a daily. It's not the most expensive watch nor the rarest but for me , it has a very special place in my heart.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Amazing how that works, right? Same kind of experience for me. Saw the 2017 Omega Trilogy collection released and said the Seamaster 300 would be mine. Saved for 3 years and found one, years later and a few life experiences and this piece could easily be the only watch I'd ever keep. The first watch always has a special place for us AND if it's a really, really good one... it makes us question why we continue collecting 😆 Thanks for sharing your story brother! 🥃
@jasont4783
@jasont4783 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see the FOIS getting some attention. As someone who has caught the Speedmaster bug, I've been looking at this Speedy for some time now and would love to add it to my collection. Great content as always, cheers!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
There's so much to love about those straight lug cases. I was fortunate to experience original Ed White's and CK2998's in the past and man... they just hit so differently. Think it also has to do with the slightly smaller size. It's a pleasure to share this Jason and thank you! 🥃
@benbiber4135
@benbiber4135 7 ай бұрын
After trying FOIS on my 7.5 inch wrist for the first time,I absolutely fell in love with it and it’s timeless design elements that just make this version so much more sophisticated and classic looking than the professional moon watch of the latest reiterations . I bought one and never regretted it even though for some reason it doesn’t get as much wrist time as it absolutely deserves. Love your channel
@alexspink4325
@alexspink4325 Жыл бұрын
More than any other channel, you have a knack for picking my favourite references to talk about! You have impeccable taste sir
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Flattering Alex, thank you sir! What's that saying about great minds? 😉 When it comes to Speedies (Omega's in general) I'll always go for a straight lug case first... we are that rare 10% that looks at the alternative offerings 😆🥃
@alexspink4325
@alexspink4325 Жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy I like those ratios. All the more for us 😂
@danielt.muller7009
@danielt.muller7009 Жыл бұрын
The watches you highlight are right up my alley.... and the ones I personally own: The FXD, the Trilogy Seamaster, the FOIS (added a hesalite crystal and a fitting running seconds hand and added a 1125 OEM bracelet) and the SeaQ. Add a G-Shock and I don't need anything else.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
It's awesome when tastes come together, right? Thank you for this Daniel! I was eyeing the FOIS earlier this year and was inches away from picking one up... something tells me it'll happen soon 😆🥃
@alvinmick218
@alvinmick218 Жыл бұрын
Yes now I can get the weekend started! I always look forward to your videos. 🥃
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Always great seeing you and a pleasure to share these Alvin, thank you brother! Have a cracker of a weekend, sir 😉
@DeeEx27
@DeeEx27 Жыл бұрын
I almost pulled the trigger on one of these when still available. Now I do regret it a little. It's also my favorite Speedmaster. Those straight lugs and alpha hands really add to the appeal. I wonder if we're ever gonna see a co-axial FOIS?
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Nothing quite like a watch regret, man... AND I do have a feeling that they won't be leaving this property. The CK2998 is a genuine icon of thiers (and those Alpha hands are just too damn sexy for them to leave out) SO my thinking is we'll see a 321 variation one of these days in precious metal... if we're really lucky, you might be spot on, a 3861 variation 🔥
@Jones607
@Jones607 Жыл бұрын
Thanks ID Guy for this wonderful review of a horological masterpiece/icon. As a fan of field/aviator genre, the Speedie is the Holy Grail. Will I ever own one? Who knows. If I’d gone for a one watch collection by now I’d be the owner of a Speedie. There’s just too many fantastic watches out there. And yet, there’s still time for me to one day own a Speedie.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
There's always still time 😉 It seems like these FOIS pieces still don't get the love they deserve (because the Professional case is always going to be more popular) but man... it's so understated! You're right though... too many fantastic watches out there AND they're getting better 🥃
@marcgirard7551
@marcgirard7551 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and discussion as always. For me, the panda variant of shown in this video would be a great choice but I’d be pressed to drop that money on that watch over the Professional or alternatively a Zenith Chrono or Tudor BB Chrono. I have to say, I’m a sucker for the curved Omega lugs and always find them missing when they show the straight lug cases!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Thank you Marc! I've always been obsessed with the CK2998 "racing" model... if only that hadn't shot up in price like they have today... you're absolutely right. Thinking that you can find a top-tier El Primero for the same money (compared to a manual 1861) there's just no comparison! Great points here brother🥃
@gentlmentlmn
@gentlmentlmn 9 ай бұрын
Great video! I just bought an FOIS today and absolutely love the dressy look and the alpha hands.
@mikeuk4130
@mikeuk4130 Жыл бұрын
Wally Schirra made the right choice! I agree with most of the points you’ve made in this excellent video. I love the clear, sharp look of the hands on the plain, sparse dial (no “Professional” script) and the slightly smaller size. The alpha hands are so beautiful, although lume-lovers may find them a bit underwhelming. It is also so much easier to wind than the Pro. I don’t use the chrono much, if at all, and I often think that I would prefer the small chrono hands to match the running seconds, especially as I use the NASA-approved Forstner mesh bracelet, the finish of which matches that of the watch case perfectly. I think the original leather strap is the low-point of this watch, but agree with others that a decent leather strap is great to give the FOiS a more relaxed and sophisticated look. In a one-Speedy (or one-watch) collection, this would be an easy choice for me. This video has made me realise that I have always enjoyed your thoughtful reviews, so I’ve subscribed - please keep it up.
@ThatEm
@ThatEm Жыл бұрын
Really beautiful, my first luxury watch and what made me fall in love with them. On my list next is a '57 :)
@_Peter_.
@_Peter_. Жыл бұрын
The Fois is getting enough attention. The true hidden gem imho is the early 2000 Broad Arrow cal. 1861. Thanks for the great video !
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
That Broad Arrow with the Professional case is so good! Their first take on creating a Broad Arrow since the earliest of references 😉
@domgledhill4165
@domgledhill4165 Жыл бұрын
I'm so torn between the FOIS and a Hesalite Professional Moonwatch as my first Speedmaster! Thanks for the consistent superb content. To be honest I'm still completely confused - thinking one, then the other. I suspect that the FOIS with it's smaller classic dimensions, alpha hands and tougher sapphire glass will win out in the end. But then again, the hesalite gives such a warm, classic warped hue to the face - damn, I'll never know which one is the best. And you know what that means - I'll probably have to buy both and experience them in real time 😆
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
It's a tough one Dom. Something about Hesalite / Acrylic has turned me off lately. It just doesn't feel that I can wear a watch to its full potential when always worrying about scratching the crystal (in a rare case damaging it) - but then I use my watches with all tasks... fixing the car, mowing the lawn, BBQing, Working out etc. and they've had a few scrapes 😆 If it was me I'd always go Sapphire for that added benefit (boxed and domed are even greater because they don't have sharp edges to chip). A pretty lengthy answer from me about nothing hahaha! 😂
@domgledhill4165
@domgledhill4165 Жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy Not at all, thanks I appreciate your thoughts - your answer is very inciteful. This is exactly what I worry about as I like to "live" with my watches too. I think Sapphire is the only way forward (for me) - now the juicy decision between Sapphire Sandwich Moonwatch or FOIS! 🙂
@domgledhill4165
@domgledhill4165 Жыл бұрын
@@IDKline Thanks I'll check that out. I always suspected that the asymetrical case was the only reason for the jump to 42 from 39, but wasn't 100% certain as I've not had both together at once. The thickness is a surprise! Whichever one, it always speaks to me on a leather strap too. Really appreciate your comments 👍
@domgledhill4165
@domgledhill4165 Жыл бұрын
@@IDKline Thanks mate - I'll hunt those down!
@Weasel4Fun
@Weasel4Fun 8 ай бұрын
I would suggest go for Pro. I had the same challenge and I opted out for Pro. Hesalite can be polished and scratching it beyond that is hard. Also it is cheaper than saphire.
@russellharris5072
@russellharris5072 Жыл бұрын
Can't afford one,but I did get the Bulova Lunar Pilot for a mere £202 in pristine condition.David Scott used it on his third moon EVA in 1971,I won't say why...................
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
The Bulova deserves it's own video - genuinely one of the coolest space watches that follow that "Speedmaster Brief" to the latter and did a brilliant job! Excellent point 🥃
@samzerafa3185
@samzerafa3185 11 ай бұрын
Another superb video presentation 👏
@bushpig6837
@bushpig6837 Жыл бұрын
It's always intriguing to hear your thoughts on the design, thank you for sharing them. I would love to hear your thoughts on the Speedmaster mk40, nearly my first serious watch but still holds my attention when I see one.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Sorry for getting back to this comment late! There's something quite special about the Mk40 and it has all of the traits I love (arabic numerals on the dial etc) - the fact that it's so "out there" compared to the typical look makes it even more interesting. Frankly, I think it deserves a video from yours truly... I want to investigate this watch more and have a good think! 🥃 Fantastic suggestion brother!
@bushpig6837
@bushpig6837 Жыл бұрын
I wish I had one to review, or I think I would have a go. Or, more likely, I would offer it to you to review. 😎
@derosa1989
@derosa1989 Жыл бұрын
Is the FOIS really smaller than the professional? The difference seems to be mostly the 3861 case is measured including the crown guards. It looks like the dial size is the same, they're both near 39.something across the outside of the bezel.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
That's pretty amazing and I think you're right, if memory serves it's all down to the width of the Professional case and not the bezel. Like with most things, it's all a visual trick 😉
@mikeuk4130
@mikeuk4130 Жыл бұрын
I think the bezel overhang makes the FOiS look almost Pro-sized.
@PaoloZucchetti
@PaoloZucchetti Жыл бұрын
great piece, had it, sold it, no regrets.
@WestCoastAce27
@WestCoastAce27 Жыл бұрын
Incredible watch, amazing history. My only beef is the number of variations (just like the Aqua Terra) - trying to be too many things to too many people?
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Speedmaster variations... it is madness. I think if we had to put a number together of all variations that've ever existed... it's probably well over 1000 😆 That's just crazy to think, right?
@zman8340
@zman8340 Жыл бұрын
Indeed , less is more
@stuartallars6209
@stuartallars6209 Жыл бұрын
I've owned one, didn't connect with it and sold it after a year, i bought a speedmaster racing reverse panda instead,, I love it!!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Great 40mm size on the piece too (also dig the larger sub dials) 🥃
@ericb8888
@ericb8888 Жыл бұрын
Some incredible visuals in the video. I couldn’t differentiate between the vast majority of them other than the obvious “ dot over 90 “ . Thanks again for the ongoing education;)
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
The Omega nuances... some say they're overkill 😆
@martinfrancis1950
@martinfrancis1950 Жыл бұрын
In 1969 I was 12: impressionable and captivated by NASA. i built on a then normal male obsession with aircraft. You wanted to know the armament of an FW190A4 versus a TA152H4, I was your boy….. I wanted a Speedmaster so much it hurt. I have a memory that says they cost £158 then but that might be More perfervid imagination than memory……. Well I got one in 1990 and for more than 20 years it was my only watch in daily use. It bears those years gracefully, but it’s hardly in concours condition. It gets serviced but I ‘ve never had it refinished; like me it has life scars but it works well. To turn it into a pampered hangar queen would be an insult to a working tool and it’s in my regular rotation and high days wear. There are other grails; mostly unfulfilled, but none match the Speedmaster for involvement.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Superb story Martin and thank you for sharing!. There's something about how an Omega as a first watch just feels amazing. I've been thinking about it a lot recently. Fell for the Trilogy Collection when they arrived in 2017, saved for 3 years and picked up the Seamaster '57 (my first luxury watch) - coincided with my fathers birth year. He passed at the end of last year and the watch was with me all the way through it, I've since fitted it to an Omega mesh (dad always used to wear mesh bracelets) and the watch is untouchable at this point... worn it so much since (like to St Andrews for a round of golf this past week) and frankly, it could be easily my only watch for life. First and last. Indelible 😉🥃
@mauriciomucino1015
@mauriciomucino1015 Жыл бұрын
Well we did talked about it, but the social media has short memory, The Tudor FXD is ever less mentioned as is the Omega trilogy and the Longines Big Eye
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Luckily for us, some of the best pieces are too often overlooked 😉 Nicely put Mauricio 🥃
@NathanielDickison
@NathanielDickison Жыл бұрын
The FOIS is my grail watch. As I've gotten closer to being able to afford one they continue to increase in value. Someday...
@SoCalWatchReviews
@SoCalWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
Another great video of an amazing watch!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
A pleasure to share brother and thank you! They really are stellar machines 😉🥃
@SoCalWatchReviews
@SoCalWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy 🍻
@Laguna2013
@Laguna2013 Жыл бұрын
I think I have a real chance at an Ed White. I wonder how many years out though...and I hope the AD with whom I have the relationship does not retire by the time my name comes up :)
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
I've heard all sorts of testimonials... something like between 2 and maximum 5 years! 🤨 There's just no knowing anymore about if/when these pieces arrive. BUT you never know your luck in the big city! ;) 🥃
@markusopel5773
@markusopel5773 Жыл бұрын
To my eye, the FOIS is a design improvement over the straight lug vintage 2998, and looks simply better. There are many subtleties that are difficult to fully understand that make the FOIS a great package. It is hard to say why, but for example, the use of sapphire glass on this watch simply looks right, whereas for the standard speedmaster moonwatch, I will always prefer the hesalite.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
And I know it's divisive but that Alpha seconds hand is also a nice touch (I would've preferred all the hands were alpha and painted white, but hey) I get what you mean. There are those small nuances that make this a far more interesting watch that most overlook. Nicely said Markus and thank you! 🥃
@AbdulRWatches
@AbdulRWatches Жыл бұрын
Iconic watch, definitely respect it and know how good of a watch it is. But somehow the Speedmaster doesn't do anything for me.
@mikeuk4130
@mikeuk4130 Жыл бұрын
A trip into space would soon suit you out, my friend!
@Obeseblackman27
@Obeseblackman27 Жыл бұрын
The minute and hour hands have very poor legibility which is why I went for the prof
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense. I do wonder why more makers don't have matte rhodium finishes on their hands these days. The result looks SO stunning and the legibility is flawless 🥃
@Killwolf13
@Killwolf13 Жыл бұрын
Is that a Zenith El Primero Revival on your wrist ?
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
It is 😉 Was extremely lucky a few month back to find it for a steal... came back to it on three different occasions and finally said to myself "You'll be kicking yourself until the end of time if you don't pick this up" - aaaand well... it's barely been off the wrist 🥃
@Killwolf13
@Killwolf13 Жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy ahaha I got one myself, probably the favorite of my collection. Funny is that I spend all the video to wonder if it was the Zenith on your wrist or not 😅 And about the Omega FOIS, one single thing to say : 🔥🔥🔥
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
@@Killwolf13 I've tried to keep it under the radar BUT the diehard will absolutely be able to pick it up 😉 Hope you're loving your Revival, brother 🥃
@robertdukes4420
@robertdukes4420 11 ай бұрын
I’m really hoping for a coaxial steel FOIS in the future but who knows
@structurescience
@structurescience Жыл бұрын
Except for that one side by side shot, I could easily have believed that there was just one watch in all of this. Not being a speedmastet chap, I couldn't see any of the differences you were pointing out. Would have loved more comparison shots
@adbraham
@adbraham Жыл бұрын
Completely agree
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
It's a real lil beaut and thank you Adrian! 🥃
@mtp1979
@mtp1979 Жыл бұрын
I love the A384 on your wrist 😍 Have you planned a video on this beauty ?
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Thank you Seb! It was a lucky, lucky accident 😉 I haven't got a date for the review video yet BUT it will happen this year (probably in Autumn) Such a great series of pieces, man... I've got tonnes to share 🥃
@mtp1979
@mtp1979 Жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy great news ! Looking forward to ear what your thoughts are on this one. And seeing that it's on your wrist whereas the FOIS is not even with such a great review is a good sign 😏
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
@@mtp1979 No kidding, it was the A384 or the FOIS. I was that close to picking up the Speedmaster... but... THE El Primero? with all the bells and whistles? for the same price as an FOIS... there wasn't really much of a choice 😆 Very lucky to say the least...
@mtp1979
@mtp1979 Жыл бұрын
I can't blame you for this choice 😅
@h.l6344
@h.l6344 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I sold mine for a decent profit and traded for a new Rolex Yachtmaster Rhodium slate dial 40mm ... kinda regret selling it but defo my YM for me wins it. Now on a look out for a chronograph 😂😂😂
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
The Hunt continues 😉 There are so many winners out there today that many don't pay enough attention to. I'd say the world is your oyster at this point (and its quite a cool feeling having that clean slate to work from) 🥃
@mikeuk4130
@mikeuk4130 Жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy Intentional Oyster pun?
@Valera_Scotland
@Valera_Scotland Жыл бұрын
Gorgeous watch man...100%... I do love the Fois P.s. I'm on the list for Explorer 36 and/or Pelagos 39 Yes. I can never make up my mind. And I'm an idiot
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC news that you're on the list for those pieces!! Frankly, I'd say grab them both if the chance arrives 😉 Both are so brilliant for purpose you wouldn't hear me complain at all! Ah, this has made my day! 🥃
@Valera_Scotland
@Valera_Scotland Жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy thanks man! Brilliant. I can't wait
@Valera_Scotland
@Valera_Scotland Жыл бұрын
@@IDKline thank you very much. I think the AD is trying to help because I've been waiting for the green OP36 for a year and he's suggested that unfortunately I'll probably not get a call... so he said he'd put me on the Explorer list if I want it. It's a watch I used to really want for years, but put it out of my mind, until he suggested it again. And now I'm obsessed again!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
@@IDKline Excellent advice!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
@@Valera_Scotland You cannot make a bad choice with a 36mm Explorer. The size is so optimal as a daily that'll ride under the radar. I'm so excited for you Valera, truly! By the end of the year, I'm counting on it 😉
@oliver1965
@oliver1965 Жыл бұрын
GrAcie 4 the review. Get going 🚀
@pakaponphinyowattanachip1192
@pakaponphinyowattanachip1192 8 ай бұрын
The only thing that I don't like about this watch is from some angles, the seconds' hand disappears!
@redhunterandgatherer2367
@redhunterandgatherer2367 Жыл бұрын
Let us also mention the 19mm lugs...mine is a keeper...it's the perfect Moon Watch...
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
The size of these straight lug pieces just don't get the praise they deserve. They fit so beautifully AND feel so clean as a design 🥃
@MasterChief37
@MasterChief37 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always preferred the Broadarrow Speedmaster. 7:30
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
I'd own one in a heartbeat too... if they were more affordable. Sadly the CK2915 has reached the masses 😉 Love them 🔥
@canadianwatchmonkey3992
@canadianwatchmonkey3992 Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about picking up a Zenith El Primero Rainbow diver your thoughts please? The one I’m interested in is black and white no colourful rings and has screw down pushers
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Extremely underrated! I mean, an El Primero movement with screwdown pushers and rotating bezel, you can't go wrong 😉 Been chatting with a good buddy of mine and we both agree that Zenith should bring back their diver collection because of how killer some of them are! 🥃
@canadianwatchmonkey3992
@canadianwatchmonkey3992 Жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy just sent you an email with photos of the watch
@ghosthunters.network
@ghosthunters.network Жыл бұрын
Hello... I really was looking for a little help here if possible. I recently received 2 men's watches from my parents estate... A LeCoultre and a Universal Geneve (both vintage). Both Solid 18k Gold. (with diamonds). I tried to find out information about the watches, but, no one can help me here. I had the watches opened by a watch jeweler, he got all the info for me that was inside cases, I have all photos and info. Can not find any info online. Can you or anyone help me figure this all out? Would much appreciate any and all help and information. Thank you!
@mikeuk4130
@mikeuk4130 Жыл бұрын
Why not try contacting the manufacturers first?
@bjoernaltmann
@bjoernaltmann Жыл бұрын
The last RRP was £4080, which is far more attainable than the £7000 they’re now asking for the classic Speedmaster. Yes Metas certified etc etc, but maybe not everyone buys it for the movement.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Excellent point and if you're lucky, you can still find these for around £4200 on the second hand market. AND the 1861 will be cheaper to service overall when the time comes... there are so many positives. The only downside is the non-hacking part 😆
@ProperCh
@ProperCh Жыл бұрын
For me the alpha hands just make it look so much more like a space watch than the Speedy Pro. It looks like a prototype space instrument which is what the original FOIS was.
@dska2294
@dska2294 Жыл бұрын
Did Rolex actually submit a watch for consideration? I’m not doubting u. I know u carefully research the content. Just heard they never even submitted a watch. Seems an important point, right? Thx for sharing your excellence with watch lovers everywhere.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Fantastic question! The belief is Rolex did submit a watch (probably a 6239 or 6240 at the time) and the entire name "Cosmograph" originated because they believed (subconsciously) that they had the win - Cosmograph as in "Cosmos"... now they wear that badge on their Daytona proudly, tinted with a bit of shame 😆
@BAF605
@BAF605 Жыл бұрын
It was even more ignored in the past. Bought mine new from a seller in Monaco (pre Brexit) for £2500. Deal!!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
That is amazing... the thought of getting a model like that today for THAT price? In just this short period of time so much has changed 😆 What a bargain! 🥃
@BAF605
@BAF605 Жыл бұрын
Prices have changed very quickly indeed. At the same time Ernest Jones had the Longines Big Eye on sale for £1400 I remember!! That one was a very slow seller at first too.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
@@BAF605 I'll admit, I jumped on that BigEye action when it happened. Think I managed to get mine for £1600 brand new... and it'll always be the best watch for the money I've ever bought for that reason 😉 The ebb and flow of this hobby is unreal!
@kostia_mu
@kostia_mu 10 ай бұрын
I like much about FOIS, first of all, size, symmetry and straight lugs, but can't stand with saphir Chrystal an different small hands, this unsymmetrical in the ideal kills this watch for me :(
@tudorserban111
@tudorserban111 Жыл бұрын
Used to be my grail a few years back, until I tried it on and didn't gel with it. Sad.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Nothing worse that having a watch bug and after finally experiencing it, the feeling is gone. It's happened to be a few times before and even to think day I still think about that one watch that never gelled with me (on paper, it should've been a piece that I'd like) Thanks for sharing brother 🥃
@tudorserban111
@tudorserban111 Жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy I'm guessing the Explorer I was one such watch.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
@@tudorserban111 The Explorer 1 was... and I have yet to experience the 36mm to see if it hits differently (or if it'll feel too much like the 39 😆) You know me well! 🍻
@tudorserban111
@tudorserban111 Жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy That video caught my eye when I was debating whether to get an explorer for myself. In the end I agreed with your conclusion that it didn't have the zing I was looking for.
@Weasel4Fun
@Weasel4Fun 8 ай бұрын
Its nice, but I dont think it is underrated. FOIS has been in a lot of cases picked up by people who (wrongly) think it is smaller. It was also mentioned in your video, that it is smaller. Case is missing the crown guard which makes its diameter shorter but overall it wears the same as profesional. I have tried both, something people seldom do. What wears smaller is speedy reduced. Its nice but it is not underrated, no bracelet and in most eyes smaller speedy.
@kickstothehead3705
@kickstothehead3705 Жыл бұрын
How bout the fact the space doesn’t exist atleast how we are taught?
@rickfowler3710
@rickfowler3710 Жыл бұрын
The algae lume and saphire crystal are a shame. Nice watch otherwise
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Must say, the boxed "milky" crystals on Omega Speedmasters have always bugged me... BUT there are worse things 😆🥃
@davidb9531
@davidb9531 Жыл бұрын
I bought one of these for £3k and sold it for less now they are way out of my price range 😂, unfortunately had issues of balance on my 6.5 inch wrist it was chunky and for whatever reason not very centred. It looks very big also as it’s all dial.
@mell3109
@mell3109 Жыл бұрын
Strange but it just doesn’t do it for me.
@Yorkshiremadmick
@Yorkshiremadmick Жыл бұрын
Still don’t like it. You sold me the FXD. Wouldn’t want one even if it was gifted. Not a fan. 👍🏻
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing Michael. Totally Understandable 😉🥃
@moneymikz
@moneymikz Жыл бұрын
Wow the watch community buys the moonlanding story hook line and sinker…Makes me ashamed to be associated with y’all 🤦‍♂️
@mikeuk4130
@mikeuk4130 Жыл бұрын
You are not!
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