The Surprising Connection Between Reading and Rhythm

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4 жыл бұрын

You might know of dyslexia as a reading disorder, but years of research suggests that people with dyslexia might struggle with processing letters because they also have trouble processing rhythm.
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@jennamedlyn
@jennamedlyn 4 жыл бұрын
I have dyslexia and I noticed a major improvement in my read when I started playing the cello. I always thought that it was because of dreading going to school I looked forward to it because of orchestra. Maybe both had a connection.
@katieg5865
@katieg5865 4 жыл бұрын
Jenna Medlyn looking back my dyslexia also improved after I started learning how to play piano. Never thought that there would be a connection there.
@eliscanfield3913
@eliscanfield3913 4 жыл бұрын
Could be. My sister started singing in the school's chorus around 2nd grade and continued through high school. She's dyslexic too, but was not too terribly far behind her classmates. They had been working with her with other methods of course, and then there's her big sister who was generally ahead in reading to compete with. Certainly, the music training didn't hurt
@drewdurant3835
@drewdurant3835 4 жыл бұрын
Jenna Medlyn dude..... yes.... music got me over my dyslexia. I believe that if we get children who are dyslexic in music, then it would help them greatly.
@delaneyanderson389
@delaneyanderson389 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the same thing happens when learning a second language, like are they unable to hear the stresses on languages they are learning?
@Digiflower5
@Digiflower5 4 жыл бұрын
From my experience, I'm gonna say yes. the letter shi し in Japanese has some slightly different pronunciation depending on the word that is used. That being said learning to spell the Japanese Alphabet more consistently is easier for me since its all single sounds most of the time.
@carlagrs
@carlagrs 4 жыл бұрын
It happens to me, my native language is portuguese and I’m currently imersed in Italian, they both have latin origins, but I struggle with words that sometimes have the same writing and meaning but are read completly different in each language. And don’t even get me started with double letters. In portuguese the rr and the ss are read like they belong together but in italian they are read as if they are in separated syllabes, but ever so subtle that I still can’t get it. My italian husband laughts everytime I ask if certain word is written with double letters and he says it slowly to me, like syllabe by syllabe, and I say: so is it one or two letters? Even after 5 years of intense italian I still don’t hear the double letters. And it is very weird because in english there are a lot of words with double letters (usually that originated from latin words) and I get them, maybe because I’ve learned to read and write in english at a young age, even before I learned it in portuguese. Weird brain!
@Ikajo
@Ikajo 4 жыл бұрын
Not initially since the whole language is new but after a while, yes. Then again, some people will always have a strong accent in that language.
@AngryKittens
@AngryKittens 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who is trilingual from childhood, from a country that is largely trilingual or bilingual (the Philippines), I'm saying no. Prosody is actually one of the first things we notice in other languages. The differences in cadence, stress, tone, etc. to the point that we can imitate how a language sounds like without actually knowing a single word from that language. German, Chinese, Arabic, Hindi, Japanese, Korean, Thai, Bahasa, Singaporean English, etc. all have their own distinctive sound and rhythm. From experience, it's only a problem for monolinguals who learn a second language _as adults._ It's one of the generational divides in the Philippines. Older (or poorer) generations who learned English as adults often speak with a distinctive accent we call "Carabao English", where V gets confused with B, F with P, Th with D, and so on. And the stresses follow what is perceived from outside the country as a "Filipino Accent." Meanwhile, younger generations who learned English from childhood often have an accent very close to General American (almost Californian really), purely from language saturation from movies and music. I've also observed this in westerners in the Philippines. Those who are monolingual (usually Americans, Canadians, and Brits) who try to speak a word or phrase of the native languages usually have problems with intonation, stress, and rhythm. Most are unaware that they sound distinctly feminine due to how they enunciate the words. Same thing with other Asian monolinguals like Japanese, Koreans, Thai, etc., even though Filipino languages, like Japanese, largely follow the CVCV syllable pattern In contrast, tourists who are natively bilingual (like some Europeans) overall had a better grasp of how the native languages sound like, even if they have problems pronouncing some phonemes like the glottal stop or the initial Ng sound. The words _sound_ right.
@unixtreme
@unixtreme 4 жыл бұрын
It happens a lot, the main reason why we struggle in the listening part when learning a second language is that we don't hear the sounds our brain expects to hear. Even if we know all the words on a sentence it's easy to be unable to catch it until we are familiar with how words actually sound instead of our own interpretation.
@100awray
@100awray 4 жыл бұрын
I don't have enough words to explain how impactful this video was for me (that might also be related to the dyslexia).
@ericbartol
@ericbartol 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe this is why I don't really get some poetry. I also often misread crossword clues, mishear lyrics in music, and misspell certain words. The misreading irks me the worst, because I'm not stupid by any degree.
@Master_Therion
@Master_Therion 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting, people with dyslexia should definitely study music. Learn a reed instrument to read better. Or at least take good... notes.
@senecagordon5472
@senecagordon5472 4 жыл бұрын
My mom did percussion in high school because she couldn't read music because of her dyslexia.
@smtrm212
@smtrm212 4 жыл бұрын
But so many of singers are dyslexic...
@amandahannoon7864
@amandahannoon7864 4 жыл бұрын
Master Therion haha notes 😆
@pencilfriendpaperscribbler6032
@pencilfriendpaperscribbler6032 4 жыл бұрын
Nim Chimpsky Interesting, thank you. A developmental disorder is for life. It creates a brain with a different physical structure than a neurotypical brain. I have Aspergers, no difficulties with music, and no learning disabilities. And yet, even at 52, there are still social situations that confound me. It’s not that I can’t or won’t read psychology, anthropology or linguistics. It’s not that I can’t read facial expressions, gestures or posture. I have made in depth studies of all of these things and make drawings with some minor skill that are very accurate in capturing, say, the tiny lift in someone’s lip when they are looking down on someone. The problem is motive. Very often people are lying even to themselves about their motives, and there is a lack of congruence between their posture and what they say. Woe betide you if you respond to what you see instead of what you hear! There’s no rage like that provoked by accidentally revealing a lie someone is busy telling themselves!
@chasindigo
@chasindigo 4 жыл бұрын
@Nim Chimpsky maybe in adults it doesn't work as well but in kids it does, I learnt read music (around 7) before I learnt to read words correctly without just purely guessing ( around 11). I have mild dyslexia, I pretty sure my music training help me immensely and without it I would have struggled a lot more.
@the_hope_of_balarat1109
@the_hope_of_balarat1109 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do an episode on dyscalculia, too? Equally challenging and fascinating, but way less known of and understood.
@92RKID
@92RKID 4 жыл бұрын
The-Hope-Of-Balarat, I second that! I have dyscalculia too. No wonder I've always had so much trouble with math and hate the subject!
@jameswhite2025
@jameswhite2025 4 жыл бұрын
This is no surprise to me, playing the trombone was hard. I often attributed reading a musical piece to actually reading- and it was hard😔
@vibe6750
@vibe6750 4 жыл бұрын
Me(a dyslexic drummer): *cries*
@awesomelyshorticles
@awesomelyshorticles 4 жыл бұрын
RIP
@GloryBlazer
@GloryBlazer 2 жыл бұрын
dabum tss
@NewMessage
@NewMessage 4 жыл бұрын
All I can ever think about when I hear that word is Fozzie Bear singing "I got Rhythm".
@lakrids-pibe
@lakrids-pibe 4 жыл бұрын
Who could ask for anything more?
@EvgenyPakhomov
@EvgenyPakhomov 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how you have blurred the very tip of the left humming bird.
@lime_jam7709
@lime_jam7709 4 жыл бұрын
Wow I've always said that if I don't know how to pronounce a word, I can't read it. I thought it was a weird quirk of me specifically that was only tangentially linked to my dyslexia, it's really really cool to know that it's more universal for us than I thought! It's always so validating to learn stuff like this =]
@slytherlily
@slytherlily 4 жыл бұрын
This video not only was eye opening, but literally made my world make more sense. Thank you! Although never tested for it, I've always been pretty certain that I have dyslexia; especially since my mom has it and it's extremely hereditary. I've always had issues processing and comprehending what I read and often read words out of order along with a lot of other struggles related to. Funny enough, as a person who's always been more drawn/inclined towards music, I've ALWAYS struggled with rhythm. I've been studying music for well over 20 years, but still can't stay in time. I also really struggle picking up new languages/getting better at my second native language since I grew up bilingual. Like IT LITERALLY ALL MAKES SENSE NOW.
@lasphynge8001
@lasphynge8001 4 жыл бұрын
This may apply best to English though, prosody is more important in some languages than in others. French (at least European French) has way less musicality to it - we usually struggle to even grasp the concept when we learn English, and if you've ever heard a French person with an intermediate level in English talking, you probably noticed. Instead, our dyslexics can have fun with the gazillion silent (and mostly useless) letters we use in our spelling.
@johnopalko5223
@johnopalko5223 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I wonder if school systems cutting music education will increase the incidence of dyslexia.
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 4 жыл бұрын
Possibly, but schools really only exist to teach political propaganda, so it's all good.
@hiiamelecktro4985
@hiiamelecktro4985 4 жыл бұрын
Slappy wow, calm you tin foil head and take a deep breath of chemtrails. Not everything is political propaganda, schooling is 1800 years old or so. The illuminati was only formed on 1776. That’s a differents of 1576 years. (Btw I learned subtraction from school 👍)
@JamesOKeefe-US
@JamesOKeefe-US 4 жыл бұрын
It is just amazing how much we still don't know and learn each year. I Love this channel!
@MrJayPuff
@MrJayPuff 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you for making these psych videos!
@spiralpython1989
@spiralpython1989 4 жыл бұрын
As a special needs teacher, l have often noticed that dyslexia and an auditory processing disorder seem to cluster... this research seems to support this.
@deemueller6470
@deemueller6470 4 жыл бұрын
During the mid 70s, our elementary classes watched a show on public television called "stepping into rhythm". We didn't have band or study music because it wasn't offered in our school. But all of us could read and we owed it to that show as well as phonics. School house rock taught us multiplication tables with rhythm as well. When my daughter was in elementary (90s) she had a horrible time reading- they taught her sight words starting in kindergarten and she couldn't grasp it. In her 4th grade, I had to teach her phonics and basically started from "electric company" onward. We all knew there was music/rhythm to help us retain the information. {🎶T I O N - shun, shun, shun, shun🎶} Over that summer she became a diehard reader with high skills testing at higher class levels. By 7th she was reading on high school/college level and retaining the info. I'll also never forgive that school for teaching math with touchpoints thru 5th grade. That habit was very hard to break! I wonder how many people remember the address to the show called ZOOM or words to the song Mr. Rogers's sang or even the Spanish taught on Villa Allegra? Rhythm is the key to all sorts of fun learning.
@ThrottleKitty
@ThrottleKitty 4 жыл бұрын
Coming from the American South, I ignore almost all language rhythm, fuss syllables together, don't bother stressing any syllables, and often outright drop many. New Orleans? Who you tryin to impress, we pronounced it nyawlens.
@pencilfriendpaperscribbler6032
@pencilfriendpaperscribbler6032 4 жыл бұрын
Throttle Kitty We all want to know how to say alligator in this accent. I can think of many situations when that would be useful. My usual phrase for expressing surprise need to be updated, for example.
@gildedbear5355
@gildedbear5355 4 жыл бұрын
In studying Japanese I have noticed the difficulty of prosody. I always want to use different prosody than the example audio. It's very frustrating.
@emilyplunkett6034
@emilyplunkett6034 4 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering how this musical approch to understanding dyslexia is actually beneficial to those learning a second language. Although I'm not far from being perfectly fluent, I'm finding that introducing French music onto my playlists has had a small impact on solidifying some key rhythmic stresses found in the language I'm trying to strengthen.
@babey202
@babey202 4 жыл бұрын
This is so interesting!!!
@horrorkesh
@horrorkesh 4 жыл бұрын
I often read or say words with the first letters swapped or combine words up that don't belong together, with numbers I end up swapping at least 2 numbers even though I just saw the damn thing
@6Nem6
@6Nem6 4 жыл бұрын
horrorkesh OMG I have the same! I also swap the first two letters when I’m writing and skip entire words when reading.
@AmberAmber
@AmberAmber 4 жыл бұрын
I do the numbers thing - it's called dyscalculia - I have it too ‐ I can't read music but I can play it & sing it & have excellent rhythm. Maybe cos I learnt music when I was really young?? Sorry about the dyscalculia thing. It made math take a lot longer.
@yusefendure
@yusefendure 4 жыл бұрын
'Fascinating Rhythm' takes on a whole new meaning.
@raspberrytaegi
@raspberrytaegi 4 жыл бұрын
very interesting!
@Yelrebmikkim
@Yelrebmikkim 4 жыл бұрын
This makes so much sense 😭. I really need to get tested for it. I show many dyslexic traits and have trained in music for over 10 years now. Yet I still struggle with the basics of sight reading and spelling.
@chrissidiras
@chrissidiras 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on Central Auditory Processing Disorder also? It's linked to dyslexia.
@Brown95P
@Brown95P 4 жыл бұрын
Joke's on you, Brit; I'd rather have a photo of a hummingbird that shows the blurred motion of its wing flapping rather than one where it seems to stand still in the air.
@awesomelyshorticles
@awesomelyshorticles 4 жыл бұрын
Its an artistic choice really. Some shot compositions would look kinda dumb with perfect image quality. Motion blur creates a sense of energy. But having a camera that always showed motion blur would make my head hurt.
@YukiDemonOfHell
@YukiDemonOfHell 4 жыл бұрын
oh wow this makes so much sense holy cow!
@WhichDoctor1
@WhichDoctor1 4 жыл бұрын
I had quite profound dyslexia right up to my mid 20s (now in my 30s and still have problems with reading but for the most part I can now get by). I also had piano lessons throughout my teenage years and my teacher would often joke that I should have taken up the drums instead cause I had such an instinctive grasp of rhythm.
@YellowPenetrator
@YellowPenetrator 4 жыл бұрын
more of these rhythm related fact please :)
@lizbitclark9778
@lizbitclark9778 4 жыл бұрын
I never knew dyslexia could cause people to interpret sounds differently, but thinking back it explains soo much. As a kid I use to have trouble spelling words even when I sounded them out because I didnt know how to say them correctly. Literally I would misunderstand the simplest words. I still can never spell performance right because I sound it out like pro-form-ance. Also idk if this is related but I straight up thought Finding Nemo was Finding Memo until 4th grade.
@pencilfriendpaperscribbler6032
@pencilfriendpaperscribbler6032 4 жыл бұрын
Lizbit Clark 'Finding Memo' is more useful as you age. Going to start sticking them on my own forehead. Or, or, you could change your name to Bitark Clawliz in situations where you would like to come off as more exotic. ;)
@lizbitclark9778
@lizbitclark9778 4 жыл бұрын
@@pencilfriendpaperscribbler6032 Hi, um...I am a little confused. What are you sticking on your forehead and why is finding Memo more useful as I age?
@pencilfriendpaperscribbler6032
@pencilfriendpaperscribbler6032 4 жыл бұрын
Lizbit Clark Memos! Memos are more useful as you age as you are more forgetful! I have no use for Nemos at 52! Although, I suppose if I have grandchildren...I'm not going to be sticking a fish to my forehead am I? 😂 So it has to be memos! Of course I'm not actually going to stick them to my forehead, it’s a joke.; )
@lizbitclark9778
@lizbitclark9778 4 жыл бұрын
@@pencilfriendpaperscribbler6032 Ohhh my gosh I am so dumb. haha I was reading it me-mo not mem-o because that's what I thought the movie was called. I completely forgot about memos like post it notes. Lol I feel so stupid.
@coryman125
@coryman125 4 жыл бұрын
@@lizbitclark9778 If it makes you feel any better, I was reading it mee-moe too :P I thought it was some sort of reference until I read the other comments
@crimsonemperor2134
@crimsonemperor2134 4 жыл бұрын
Welp, this explains why I struggled sight reading music in marching and symphonic band.bBeen playing trumpet since 5th grade. Heck, most of the time I had to look up the piece that we would have to play beforehand so I could get an idea of what I was supposed to be playing. Marching band in particular would be brutal because our band director would make his own compositions.
@TizonaAmanthia
@TizonaAmanthia 4 жыл бұрын
putting the right EmPHAsis on the proper SyLAble.
@shaunburke9462
@shaunburke9462 4 жыл бұрын
Groovy baby, yeah! Yeah baby, very yeah!
@GameTesterBootCamp
@GameTesterBootCamp 4 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping this CMT process will work for adults too. I've struggled with Dyslexia my entire life and if there were something I could do to help it, I'm on board.
@ArcasDevlin
@ArcasDevlin 4 жыл бұрын
I'm fairly certain I'm not actually dyslexic, but I very often simply type entirely the wrong word - even if it doesn't sound similar. Sometimes, it's just the wrong tense of the word. Point is, though, that it happens often. I don't have issues with pronunciation and I can spell quite well. I am *thinking* the correct word. After watching this video, it prompted me to look, but I could not find anything on it. This is not a recent issue, and much of what I found was "Recently, after I turned 50," or whatever. I don't know if my bipolar disorder, (manic thoughts,) could be contributing, due to my lack of focus or because I'm thinking too far ahead (almost wrote "away"). Anyone have similar issues or some potential insight?
@JessieCarty
@JessieCarty 4 жыл бұрын
I never had an officially diagnosis of a dyslexia or a learning disability, but I've also pondered this as well. I can not hear stressed and unstressed syllables well. I also had this issue where I'd write p's and d's and such ever though I was an avid reader.
@Kikakowia
@Kikakowia 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe try looking into types of aphasia? I only learned about a couple types in my linguistics classes a few years ago, but this reminded me of that. Good luck!
@coryman125
@coryman125 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what this is unfortunately, but I think I may have something similar? From my experience, it feels like it's just from habits about which letters tend to go together in clusters. If I type a word starting with ni-, I might habitually type -ght, just out of habit. Is that similar? Cause I'm the same way, I can spell and speak just fine, but it often happens when I'm thinking through multiple words at once and my brain sorta autocompletes what I'm typing :P (I could see how "too far a-" would complete to "away", for instance, so it could well be similar) As far as I'm concerned, I don't have anything like dyslexia or bipolar disorder, so if that is the same thing you do, it could be something completely different
@JessieCarty
@JessieCarty 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kikakowia Thanks! I think it is something on that spectrum as well :)
@JessieCarty
@JessieCarty 4 жыл бұрын
@@coryman125 I have a friend who is looking into adult ADHD because of similar issues. Like her brain is processing quicker than her verbal abilities.
@haquoctienalejandro
@haquoctienalejandro 4 жыл бұрын
this makes a lot of sense, i have a very mild stutter in my mother tongue and it's helpful sometimes to tap my fingers together to "get the words out", also it's kinda weird that i speak more fluently in English than in my mother tongue, is there a psychological explanation to this?
@Deathtopick
@Deathtopick 4 жыл бұрын
True story plo. Some fast-reading techniques include internal rhytm shift to increase fast intuitive gaze.
@kyliecarroll765
@kyliecarroll765 4 жыл бұрын
Watching the dyslexia videos is just constantly thinking "oh my god this is my life"
@vitumalatesta
@vitumalatesta 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is amazing! A preciosity. It teaches me a lot (sometimes, even more than the psychology course I made). The content and the way to stream it are precise, accurate, updated! Thank you very much for this great work!
@mikeg9b
@mikeg9b 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I wonder if it comes down to awareness and noticing things (differences). When I tried to coach guitar students to learn songs by ear, one of the first things I "tested" in a student was aptitude in discerning whether a note was higher or lower than another note. I don't know if this had to do with varying abilities in pitch perception or if it was an unfamiliarity with using spacial adjectives (higher and lower) in a non-spacial domain (music). It is kind of a weird use of language. We don't have to look up when someone plays a high note. I know I just changed the subject. Sorry.
@pencilfriendpaperscribbler6032
@pencilfriendpaperscribbler6032 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Gainey Very interesting! Some people do have difficultly with abstract concepts. There are even decided differences demographically, here in the UK. Part of it can be cultural. I know someone who is rather good at maths, clearly an abstract language, but was never encouraged to read. He and many of his peers are even more literal minded in conversation than me and I have autism. After a comedian was interviewed in the Guardian, there was a significant number of commenters who were distressed because they couldn’t tell whether or not the comedian was telling the truth about his life! Not sure why they felt so concerned to pin down details that were clearly irrelevant to their own lives, instead of simply enjoying the witty responses, but it was distressing to them. A bit like how you absolutely cannot start a conversation about photographs as 'truth' with some people. The idea that photography is a mediated 'truth' isn’t simply a no go subject for lack of vocabulary, it’s a genuinely distressing idea that will be countered with reactionary behaviour.
@IceMetalPunk
@IceMetalPunk 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. My friend is dyslexic and she also was in choir in school. Her dad used to be the bassist in a rock band, so she grew up with tons of musical exposure and training. I wonder if she'd have a harder time reading if she didn't have all that?
@artesiningart4961
@artesiningart4961 4 жыл бұрын
Regine Velasquez-Alcasid aka The Asia's Songbird is said to struggle with dyslexia before, but even before she's already so good in singing and belting. Look her up! Her musical ''rhythm'' is not bad.
@Walltumbler
@Walltumbler 4 жыл бұрын
Half my family is dyslexic and we are all musically talented.
@kellymaldia128
@kellymaldia128 4 жыл бұрын
My father, brother, my son and I are all dyslexic of different degrees. My father taught himself the guitar at 10 and was quite good. My brother played brass instruments, mostly baritone. It's usually lumped in with percussion. I was recommended for drums because of my rhythm but ended up playing brass instruments because that's what we had. I played everything except trombone. My son played drums from an early age. He has amazing rhythm. My daughter, nephew and husband have above normal reading but have no rhythm. Just more to research...
@RosheenQuynh
@RosheenQuynh 4 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if I don't have a form of dyslexia - I often think a word is another when I glance at it but when I take a good look at it, it's correct. This happens with letters, sometimes, too. For example, I'll mistake (usually three letter) words (that may or may not end in "i" or "vi") as my celebrity crush's name, Avi. This happens with other words too, though, not just his name. Maybe my Asperger's has something to do with it too because apparently I have a monotone voice. I also distinctly remember receiving training for reading because I read too fast, ended up missing words entirely, and was prompted to read slowly (didn't really work because this wasn't done consistently after elementary school and I still read too fast and when my ADD flares up, I have to reread whole paragraphs...).
@Sylkis89
@Sylkis89 4 жыл бұрын
Dyslexia (problems with decoding written transcriptions of speech) Dysgraphia (problems with handwriting) Dysorthographia (problems with coding written transcriptions of speech) Dyscalculia (problems with making mathematical operations in your head) All commonly confused conditions that are linked but at the same time they are independent from each other and do not need to occur together... And I'm pretty sure the thing that you're discussing in the video is yet a different phenomenon... of course it might be (one of) the possible reasons for the SYMPTOMS that are known with the names listed above... I know that dyslexic people often also have the so-called lateral thinking and they also process morphology differently (based on phonemes rather than syntactic operations of grammatical entities, they will often not intuitively feel the patterns in any fusional changes like in electric->electricity as opposed to elektrik-elektrikity or elektris-electrisity, their brains won't understand why the transformation from /k/ to /s/ like and why they're both spelled with C instead of elektrik->elektrisity,) and and graphemes (like they perceive letters as 2d representations of 3d objects, so d, b, p and q look like the same object, just depicted from another angle) or m and n look like a different instance of the same object - like recognising a tree regardless of how many branches it has... and the relations between the phonemes, morphemes and their grammatical properties and graphemes
@tremolo2109
@tremolo2109 4 жыл бұрын
Well, this confirms it, I never had dyslexia. It must be something else. I still have trouble writing by hand because I write the wrong letter/the letters out of order if I'm not being really careful. Fortunately, I don't struggle at all with typing, spelling, reading, speaking, etc. Learning to read was hard for me though
@TiaKatt
@TiaKatt 4 жыл бұрын
That actually sounds a lot like dysgraphia.
@christelheadington1136
@christelheadington1136 4 жыл бұрын
Why is The Jackson 5's "ABC", running through my head ?
@Nuke_Skywalker
@Nuke_Skywalker 4 жыл бұрын
She is one of the best hosts of sci show. Most others have on or another thing that i pick up on that gets annoying over time. Not an offense, just me fixating over stuff. But anyway, is this maybe why music can help us learn?
@TheAlchemistZero1
@TheAlchemistZero1 4 жыл бұрын
I have been diagnosed with the following neurological challenges: Dyscalculia Dyslexia Congenital amusia ADHD High functioning autism PTSD All stemming from childhood trauma. My personal assumption is that there must be a corollary between childhood trauma and how minds (similar to mine) are able to process various frequencies/stimuli: whether auditory, or visual.
@lizbitclark9778
@lizbitclark9778 4 жыл бұрын
I am confused, I have add and dyslexia and I always thought they were genetic. I had no idea they could be environmentally caused.
@TheAlchemistZero1
@TheAlchemistZero1 4 жыл бұрын
@@lizbitclark9778 Repeated blunt force trauma to my cranium with miscellaneous objects, from the time I was ~5ish (among countless other horrors) clearly had "an impact". Sorry, some unnecessary self-deprecation on my part. You can look up the details though. Just search for: cognitive ramifications of childhood trauma.
@ShadowDrakken
@ShadowDrakken 4 жыл бұрын
Do we have similar info on dysgraphia?
@senorpepper3405
@senorpepper3405 4 жыл бұрын
she gotta whole lotta rhythm. she got that back seat rhythm
@buniny
@buniny 4 жыл бұрын
Well.. That explains why I always describe languages by their cadence and "sing songiness" rather than by their verbal structure. I'm very dyslexic but I love learning music (both singing and instruments) as well as languages. Ironically, I'm in the process of making a conlang (constructed language) as a hobby and I have found I am dyslexic in my own made up language. I often mix up similar looking symbols as I do with every other language I have learned 🤣 It's definitely a struggle out here boys.
@delphinidin
@delphinidin 4 жыл бұрын
Another therapy that can help kids with reading difficulty is teaching them to CRAWL! They're not sure why crawling therapy improves reading: it might have something to do with getting the two hemispheres of the brain to work together better. I'd be interested to know, however, if the crawling therapy is helping because crawling requires a form of rhythm?
@mroiddzhem7311
@mroiddzhem7311 4 жыл бұрын
So, Adam is not here, so I'm gonna do it first. BASS
@blanchekonieczka9935
@blanchekonieczka9935 4 жыл бұрын
I got rythm, I got reading, I got my books, who could ask for anything more!... if you got this, you're old! 🤪
@kevin6293
@kevin6293 4 жыл бұрын
They say singing gets people to stop stuttering.
@ToastbackWhale
@ToastbackWhale 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Ellington Depends on how you define “stop.” It’s true, as long as the person is singing. Though once you stop, it comes back. -a Speech Pathology MS student, also a person who stutters
@MrGksarathy
@MrGksarathy 4 жыл бұрын
What about for more tonal languages, as opposed to stress-based languages like English?
@ajuntapall6193
@ajuntapall6193 4 жыл бұрын
How would that apply to French, which is meant to be much more "flat", with accents only at the end of sentences? (if I recall correctly)
@sungoddessamaterasu5439
@sungoddessamaterasu5439 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a musical version of this episode?
@sophiathekitty
@sophiathekitty 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what exactly they said I had in grade school..... But I've been noticing lately that the order of words change around and words change entirely when I reread something that didn't make sense. Generally changing the entire meaning of what I've read... I also can't do stuff like skim reading so I read super slowly and have a pretty low reading stamina. Which makes most modern news writing completely inaccessible. Everything is this Gonzo style that spend the first several paragraphs doing rambling personal narrative about how they did the reporting. So if you don't state the god damn point in the headline and first couple paragraphs I just give up and check the comments. Sometimes I'll try using a TTS reader.... But now the audio on my desktop only works with my headphones so I'll probably do that less often in the future.
@dinosinspace
@dinosinspace 4 жыл бұрын
Can SciShow Psych add a video for Borderline Personality Disorder for the disorder playlist?
@sibandy
@sibandy 4 жыл бұрын
This doesn't follow in my experience. I have been playing the piano since I was three years old (when I was tall enough to reach the keyboard). I now (at 65years old), play several instruments and write music for orchestra, large and small. I was diagnosed with dyslexia in my twenties. It still takes me about five time as long to read a book than average. Although I believe there are many different types of dyslexia, so perhaps I'm just different :o)
@birdsdaword
@birdsdaword 4 жыл бұрын
I wish my dyslexic friends could see this. None of them are on the grid.
@karm65
@karm65 4 жыл бұрын
I have severe dyslexia. I wonder if this is why I have a super hard time understanding people with strong accents.
@gaijininja
@gaijininja 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, an idea just came to mind. Do cultures where community singing is common rather than a rarity have a lower rate of dyslexia? In other words, if people are exposed to listening to and participating in music at an early age in their culture, does this lower the rate?
@drewdurant3835
@drewdurant3835 4 жыл бұрын
I am dyslexia AF and a very talented violinist.
@SteevyTable
@SteevyTable 4 жыл бұрын
Huh, that's interesting. My wife has dyslexia. Guess what she struggled with the most in band? Rhythm.
@theclageraghty1
@theclageraghty1 4 жыл бұрын
But wouldn't difficulty in perceiving speech sounds affect speech production? Wouldn't dyslexics sound different when speaking?
@dermmerd2644
@dermmerd2644 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't read a word you said!
@chasindigo
@chasindigo 4 жыл бұрын
I will agree that music training will help with dyslexia
@beingWantable
@beingWantable 4 жыл бұрын
I was like, pfss my rhythm is pretty good I can dance pretty well... But clapping is weirdly difficult and I have problems talking/sounding out words.. So I guess this could be a thing hmmmm (I have a mild form of dyslexia)
@MartynHutchby
@MartynHutchby 4 жыл бұрын
Unless I misunderstood, you're saying those with dyslexia struggle with music too? I know a few people with dyslexia (or variants of it) that are quite good at music ... confused?
@awesomelyshorticles
@awesomelyshorticles 4 жыл бұрын
Well if theyre training themselves then theyll get better at it. Its not a permanent curse on the mind, its an issue with processing
@luciflanagan239
@luciflanagan239 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t have dyslexia but I can’t spell for the life of me (teachers thought I did have dyslexia) but I never got sounding words out. My spelling was better when I was in band but now that I’m not it’s gotten bad again. Whelp 😂 screwed myself but I hated that flute
@uplink-on-yt
@uplink-on-yt 4 жыл бұрын
Got anything similar for prosopagnosia?
@gordianplot9347
@gordianplot9347 4 жыл бұрын
learning to draw, and especially hand drawn animation helped me more than anything.
@matthewharris-levesque5809
@matthewharris-levesque5809 4 жыл бұрын
They did that like, a year ago.
@Thenoobestgirl
@Thenoobestgirl 4 жыл бұрын
Vsauce has a very unusual rhythm
@sherinevictoria
@sherinevictoria 4 жыл бұрын
Was I the only one who was thinking about Grayson Dolan the whole time?
@celinak5062
@celinak5062 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it only works on some types of dyslexia
@peggyfranzen6159
@peggyfranzen6159 4 жыл бұрын
Phonics.
@Dwamak
@Dwamak 4 жыл бұрын
A-well-a don't you know about the bird? Well, everybody knows that the bird is a word.
@filmfan4
@filmfan4 4 жыл бұрын
Very insightful, though I do wish that more investigations would go into the cognitive benefts of dyslexia, rather than just the negatives. I firmly believe as a dyslexic that if we were to understand all aspects of dyslexia, good and bad, then we could come to understand what causes it and how to mitigate the difficulties.
@JAOResnik
@JAOResnik 4 жыл бұрын
My teacher told me I'd be no good at poetry due to my dyslexia, but so far I made three jugs and a vase
@unidentifiedbipedallifeform
@unidentifiedbipedallifeform 4 жыл бұрын
That made me Lmao so hard
@FacelessOfficial1
@FacelessOfficial1 4 жыл бұрын
χμμμμ....στα αγγλικά δεν έχω τόνους πλάκα πλάκα...
@jesipohl6717
@jesipohl6717 4 жыл бұрын
let's not forget that written language is relatively derived. should we really be pathologising here? I feel like not seeing even this as neurodiversity could prevent certain effective practices from being developed.
@NinjaGamer820
@NinjaGamer820 4 жыл бұрын
Mom spaget
@999is666upsidedown
@999is666upsidedown 4 жыл бұрын
bet
@AurforeRhodontis
@AurforeRhodontis 4 жыл бұрын
Bet? How much?
@flamingtiger7725
@flamingtiger7725 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking as someone with dyslexia (mild though it may be) I’m not quite sure this is right (at least not in my case). I mean, for all I know this is just me, but personally prosody is the least common ways I’ll mess up. It may be bc I’ve always been exposed to a ton of music and my mom (who took college classes for singing) taught me a lot early on, but even then, that was after I started learning to read and it didn’t have any noticeable affect on it. Tracking is my main issue with reading tbh, I’ll skip sentences or take in words from the surrounding page and cram them in where they’re not supposed to be without even noticing it 🤷‍♀️
@flamingtiger7725
@flamingtiger7725 4 жыл бұрын
Boi Makes sense, sorry if my original comment sounded a bit to confrontational 😅. I wasn’t trying to say she was entirely wrong, just wanted to put in my two cents
@qwertyuiopgarth
@qwertyuiopgarth 4 жыл бұрын
If dyslexia affects approximately 1 in 10 people (or 1 in 20, etc.) the errors in prosody that dyslexics make may be a source of linguistic change. A moderately high-status person with some dyslexia makes a frequent error in pronouncing certain words, and other people imitate those 'errors' until they become not-errors.
@Telenaus
@Telenaus 4 жыл бұрын
in all seriousness, i cant read if the authors rhythm feels wrong to me,its why i never was able to read dune.
@Telenaus
@Telenaus 4 жыл бұрын
& yeah im dyslexic
@unidentifiedbipedallifeform
@unidentifiedbipedallifeform 4 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else catch themselves rolling their eyes at 0:50? I tend to do that when people break into song and I'm not entirely sure why.
@Camperniki
@Camperniki 4 жыл бұрын
Disagree. Really good at playing music and rhythm but have dyslexia. Starting playing music at age 6-20
@WWZenaDo
@WWZenaDo 3 жыл бұрын
Hm. Viewing some of the spastic gyrations of a certain politician when old party/dance scenes in film of him with Epstein surfaced, I would say that the spray-tan-aficionado definitely has no capacity to follow a rhythm. This could explain his apparent reading difficulties, too.
@jerry3790
@jerry3790 4 жыл бұрын
I ain’t got rhythm
@liana-gao
@liana-gao 4 жыл бұрын
Does this mean that musicians could possibly have better language/communication skills than non-musicians? (Btw hello I’m a musician lol😂)
@aleesabarker8352
@aleesabarker8352 4 жыл бұрын
Liana Gao hello fellow musician!
@liana-gao
@liana-gao 4 жыл бұрын
Aleesa Barker Hello!
@Sgt-Gravy
@Sgt-Gravy 4 жыл бұрын
Social pragmatic communication disorder, is similar to dyslexia. I have both & was still able to graduate. It's possible if you put your mind to it.
@daphnie816
@daphnie816 4 жыл бұрын
And now I know why I can't stand rap music. Those musical pathways in my brain don't know what to do with the unnatural speech patterns of it, so I can't remember what's being said, and it just sounds like annoying noise.
@jamesroe8934
@jamesroe8934 4 жыл бұрын
This is why psych is so infuriating... a 20 person study.. lets draw huge conclusions from this
@marksusskind1260
@marksusskind1260 4 жыл бұрын
Brit can learn to scat.
@artesiningart4961
@artesiningart4961 4 жыл бұрын
So do not take off music classes in schools... Music hust like other humanities and arts have some help in one way or another to people that we don't just value and see often.
@patchworkundead4787
@patchworkundead4787 4 жыл бұрын
Christ I'm early. This is damn weird.
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