Still puzzles me how can Marshall still ignore you. They should sponsor or collaborate with you. You are promoting their amps more than their emerging artists. You are educating people on how to find their tone. Most importantly, you are keeping the flame alive for many guitar players. Like always, I adore your videos. Cheers Johan!

My favorite part is when Johan says. "Let's go"! You know your going to be in for a treat!

The obvious conclusion: Everyone should have a Marshall wall. Not only does it sound best, it's also the ultimate home decoration. Thanks again for a well made demo. Really interesting to compare all these parameters. The riff starting at about 9:30 sounds best on the 1X12 (to me), but for all riffs I think it depends on what sound you're after. Great to have this reference when looking for gear.

God made Johan, Johan made this channel, this channel restored the passion for playing the guitar !!!

You should really consider legally changing your name to "Tone Meister". You make watching and listening to what should be a boring explanation turn into something amazing to watch and listen to. Great stuff as usual and the riffage was spot on and enjoyable to listen to throughout. God bless and rock on brother.

The format worked very well in this video with the added clips and all that. Would be very interesting to hear your conclusions at the end too. Thanks for the a1 content.

The Carl Segan of guitar tone! Fantastic. This channel entertains, and informs, on so many different levels. Best content anywhere!

The sounds on this video that I liked more are the 4x 1x12 cabs compared to the 1x 4x12, and the "both" cabs sounding at the end of the video. Great work !

So good! Johan, I love your way of thinking. This is gold.

I could watch your videos all day! First, I love listening to you talk, it's extremely soothing. Second, the passion for GREAT gear aligns with my same passion for the same gear. Amazing, talented, and INFORMATIVE videos which I look forward to watching!

The soundtrack behind that “mutual coupling” video made me feel like I was learning some other-worldly type science!

Just bloody brilliant Johan - pure brilliant! You always make me smile so much 👏🙌

Such an informative video! Loved the different sounds and especially the explanations you gave. Really great stuff to get people experimenting!

I was surprised at how much I like the 1x12 tone.

Thank you for your awesome videos! You have a very nice style to make these videos, keep rocking!!

I really enjoyed this one mate. Very few of us could have so much gear to test all these, and you simply put them in a video. Thumbs up!

Always a pleasure to watch your video, man! You deserved many more subs, views and likes. Thank you, Johan!! 🙌🏿🙌🏿

great demo on mutual coupling and how it effects tone, well done, Johan. I do have a Marshall 1912 cab as well as an Avatar 1x12, will definitely consider trying different combinations when recording and consider the mutual coupling. Thanks for the great content and comparison, but as usual to me, nothing beats the 4x12! Stay safe!

In my car listening I like the 412 best . It has the honk and articulation that are ever so slightly lacking in the wall and single cab. The room has such an effect on listening income to find out more and more. If I was in a room full of people I would want the wall to push through. Where jamming and studio work the other two would be just fine. Love it. Keep up the excellent work brother!

incredible knowlege! thanks for the insights!

Phenomenal work, Johan!

When you're daisy chaining, it immediately gives it that 60's, 70's kinda Snarl, complex saturation, somewhat phasy depth. It sounds very vintage. So beautiful! Obviously, this is how to used multiple amps back in the day.

Man, this is some great content. Where the hell else are you going to see someone trying this kind of stuff?!?!

Nice to see Heinsenberg playing guitar in Sweden. Nice!

Man, I have a 4x12 and a 1x12 and I and I am absolutely trying them paired up. That was great.

Love that last riff!

"It just sounds big"... no kidding. Standing in front of three full stacks is the dream. I wonder if any current musician with the exception of perhaps AC/DC and Metallica still gets to do that.

Man the two together sounded so smooth... I like the 4x12 cab best very Chucky mid sounding by it's self but,, the two together was my favorite..

Thanks for this video, I asked this question on you Ephiphone JR review,!

Johan, Lyle Caldwell has pointed out that Marshall made a wiring mistake with how they hooked up the negative feedback loop to the output taps. That’s responsible for the difference of tone between a 4 ohm and 16 ohm cabinet. The wiring can be fixed.

I like the 1x12 my DSL 20 you recomended is fantastic thanks, now I'll put it closer to my Fender Blues Jr Tweed and try the coupling thing!

Im all about that 1x12 life now days...Defiantly my go to approach at the tone I'm going after.

fascinating! will have to look up some cabs with odd speaker sizes an spatial considerations that take advantage of mutual coupling. would be interesting to take some speakers of various sizes on a grid backing where they can easily be clipped in and moved around and see what we get.

Super wombat sweet video flick. I have a '79 JMP 2204 sitting on top of a 1960 B cab with g12m greenies. All my Gibson guitars have p90's and all sound like she wolves in heat howling at midnight in front of a house burning down. The sound of your LP straight up into the 2204 and 4x12 cab is panty dropping tone! Mahalo!

Great video!! Love it

Johan know's his stuff,... ever video has something that's ALWAY'S good,... he's the best........

I love this stuff!! Sound Science!

Johan, thanks as always for the vids. This one was great. I switched from a 1x12 several years ago to a 4x12, and while my volume hasn't gotten insane (by choice), I've been much happier with my overall sound, which is most definitely influenced by some of these 70s tones. You've helped guide me toward rig choices that I'm really happy with. I suggested it on the live chat, but it'd be cool if you did an evaluation of the newer Fane Speakers (F70 and F90), and maybe the Reeves Purples. I have been pretty knocked out by the sound samples. Something a bit different than the ubiquitous V30. I'm sure they don't compare to the ol' Greenbacks, but I've heard that some of the old Fane workers are still there, still doing their thing. : )

Great demonstrations. It's cool to know that a 4x12 and a 1x12 sound good together. I have a spare 12" Vintage 30 which I'm going to build a cab for (likely used mostly with a DSL401)...I think sometimes I will use it with my G12M 4x12 and my '78 JMP 2203. Beefy! :)

ah, A sennheiser 609 sounds way different than what looks to be a shure 57 or a variant. I do not see how this can be valid without the same mics. And I've mixed FOH for 40 years btw. regards, chris

Let's go !!! Another great vLog Johan !!!🤟🤟🤟🤟

A little while ago, Keith Richards said he preferred smaller amps in the studio because he felt they sounded bigger. Thanks for demonstrating why that is.

The myth buster of tone.... 🤘

I have a big, oversized 2x12 closed back cab that actually gets a lot of the 4x12 sound. It sounds huge so I’ve always figured the cab size was at least part of the reason a 4x12 sounds like they do. I love the deep, full tone without having the weight of a 4x12.

Super cool! You are amazing at all these crazy idea. Love the dual depth 4x12. I stole your trademark into for my last video, hope you don’t mind. Played a kiss clip to help make it ok. :)

Amazing comparisons you do... Any nerdy thought I could have related to comparisons with Marshalls you've likely already done! Thank you!

As always, thank you so much for bringing a well executed test to all our ears. Lots of work and passion behind this. I loved the nuance of the "both" 1x12 & 4x12 mode. Johan, was it just the speaker mics together, or as you mention, did the room mic get involved at that point ?

amazing insight. This is guitar tone science. Thank you. The 4x12 tone is to die for. Best I can use is a 1x12, but it's not too bad, the 1x12 is better for rock than for metal, I guess, though the 4x12 of course can do anything, and much better. That growl is so characteristic. Amazing stuff.

Sooooo interesting !! I was wondering exactly this (if 2 cabinets of 1x12 could sound tighter than 1 cabinet of 2x12) Thanks !

Great useful content

Another point is that the baffle makes a lot of difference, if you mount the speakers on same baffle, they interact much more due vibration. The thicker the baffle, less interaction and more round is the sound, the thinner is the baffle brighter is the sound. I make amps for myself and thats a really important factor as long as the cabinet material. Fender uses high ressonance wood(pine) with very thin composite baffle, getting those bright slapping sounds, not to mention they are open back cabinets. For high fidelity sound Brands tend tho use thicker MDF that do not influence the sound, but for us guitarrist we want a wood that ressonates and defines our tones..

Such a cool video.

Again, speechless and dumbfounded... Congrats, Johan!

The 16-ohm sounds more natural to my ear. Good video Johan.

Came for the great tones. Stayed for the science!

I had an 8ohm creamback m65 and while I loved the clean tone i hated the overdriven sound I thought it was truly awful but now I have a 16 ohm creamback m65 and I love the overdriven as well as the clean . The 8hm was a dull muddy mess when overdriven .

I'm just accepting the fact I'm a 4x12 guy. Lugging it around will keep me fit for life.

Marshall really got their cabinets designed good, retaining marshall sounds in 112 or 412. I like that 112 sound at the end. IMO.

Hi, Johan! Actually 12/2 sounds good enough to be used in the hard- rock songs. I was very surprised when I heard it. Very interesting and fun! See you! Zigfrid

Thanks Johan...The boxes are part of the equation...Speaker choice is far more varied...T70 sounds sweeter and crunchier than T75 but Greenbacks are creamiest...Alnico blue is very distinctive with pronounced mids and highs...also single, twin n quad birch boxes bring in so many flavors...it never ends(luckily) Take them all if ya get the chance !!!

I'd love to see you compare pathfinder 15r w/ Marshall etc, or anything else that cheapo Great vid as always!

Back in a day when I was deciding to buy orange 4x12 or 2x12..internet was very specific 4x12 is the only way..just not MOBILE! One guy said 'I sold it and bought 2x12 for mobility and never got that sound'. So I grabbed 4x12 and lord what sound it was..definitely NOT MOBILE THO! But never crossed my mind to stuff it with pillows!:) Great tests today, and riffage..was most overwhelmed with the combination of 1x12 with 4x12. Great stuff Cheers, man

I've grown to really like 1 12 open back cabs. In the last few years. I've had 4 12s but mostly used 2 12 combos over the years. Pretty much until I tried a bassbreaker 30 and a pros sonzera (the sonzera was undeliable)

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4 Ohm or 16 Ohm wired 4x12 act differently fir few reasons. One is output transformer. Though other is that in 4 Ohm wiring voice coils affect each other differently. Namely there are no voice coils in series hence their inductance dies not work as a filter on next in line voice coil. Also 4 Ohm requires more current but even more importantly it inductance more current that must be absorbed by the amp. It requires two times higher damping factor of the amp. Tube amps do not have high damping factor and they do not like lot of current coming back to them. That's why in home hifi one does not have great results with speakers that have big voice coils when connected to the tube amps. Add wired things that happens with complicated crossovers and you will see that some big speaker especially 4 way and higher will sound immense and great on the transistor based amp and will sound awful on tube amps. While some smaller o e or two way speaker will sound awesome on the same amp. Most of the amps handle 16 Ohm wiring good. 4 Ohm is way harder. Also every output transformer is different. Lot of the Fender output transformers sound best on 8 Ohm and some even have only 8 Ohm output. Other Fender amps have only 2 Ohm output and are designed to sound goid with that output. Marshall amps tend to sound best with 16 Ohms. Different output transformers and different designs. Anyways end result is same 4 Ohm and 16 Ohm wiring sounds different and it is complex thing that happens there. Main thing is what you like. Just use how it sound better for you minding that you match your amp with the 4 Ohm load or you will not enjoy new sound for long.

Gotta say, the 1x12" makes the treble side of things much more pleasant. I'd play darker guitars and lossy chains into 4x12" happily. For leads 1x12" and for deep rhythms 4x12" would be a nice setup. But the combination is the sweet spot, complementing each other's short-comings.

I think the 12 inch speaker is the perfect guitar speaker size no matter what cabinet you put it in… Love your show John, I love Geeking Out on guitar shit and yes I’m a Marshall kind of guy… Keep on rockin

Really liked the 1x12! Also realised I hadn't been subscribed all this time... whoops!

I am really surprised how good the1×12 sounds with open back. I think it is an open back. Much fuller sounding than the 4×12, and the 4×12 sounds on the thin side. Damn good demo.😀

hi Johan, can u make a video with more basic stuff such as "what's coupling and why it matters?" I love ur videos!! thank u

Whoa, mutual coupling, I Iearned a new thing today! In my AVT412 Marshall cab, the speakers are closer together than conventional 412s, maybe that's partly why it sounds really dark. Loved this video. Cheers.

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If you use a solid state amp (pure voltage), it will pour (as much as) four times the wattage into 4 ohms as 16 ohms at the same output level. There will be a big difference with solid-state, which doesn't have an output trafo at all (let alone a multi-tapped one) to level the impedance difference.

I have bee using two 1 by 12 caba combined lately with several different speaker combinations and I prefer it by far to using just a 2 by 12 . So much so i am getting rid of my 2 by 12 .

Jag hade en 30 tums Electro voice med bafflar bak, vilket ljud men tungt och bära på, har sökt på nätet vart den tog vägen, men inte lyckats hitta den igen! Annars föredrar jag 2x12, 1x12 och 4x12 beror på sammanhanget, här låter 4x12 mkt bra, kul att Du tar upp det här!

I love the sound of an open back 4x12 with Fender circuits

Great video! love the info, now at the end you used a sen609? on the 1x12 and a 57 on the 4x12, that change alone will also give quite a difference in tone as well. Would love to see the comparison using the same mic though. 1 x 12 has a real tight focused sound, 4 x 12 sound wide and big

I like to run a few amps in parallel, and the bedroom has been getting pretty crowded. Anything that can push eight Ohms I am hooking up to an EVM, Black Label if it is over a hundred Watts. I still have a wall going, tunnel perhaps.

I like the 1x12 by itself the best

I want to try a 4 x 12 as a vertical 2 x 12 with the other holes blocked with ports tuning the cab to 80 Hz.

Thanks Johan - very informative. Question regarding the mutual coupling and mic'ing cabinets. The mutual coupling would apply to the amp in the room sound of a 4x12, but is the effect as apparent in a recorded or PA feed if you close mic a single speaker on the cab?

Hi Johan, another great video. Just wondering if you used a room mic for any of the comparisons. Keep rocking, cheers!

Johan the mad Marshall professor! Great work Johan. I prefer the 4x12 just sounds bigger and fatter.

when comparing the 1x12 in the open back combo to the closed back 1x12, I like the sound of both best :D

I haven't benefited from mutual coupling in quite some time. Now I'm sad. Fascinating video, though. Rock on!

keep on rockin in the free world ....

Whoa Johan wow at the beginning the BLACK BEAUTY YOU sounded like Toni Iommi..that thing got P A.F.s???? Eh...ill stay with 2x12 100 watt..the 4x12 you played through the 2204 I LOVE IT.. GOOD JOB. CHEERS!!!!!!

Hi Johan - really enjoyed your video. With the observation that the mutual coupling effect makes a big difference it is nonetheless fascinating to know more about how the 'cabinet air' affects the tone. Would love to see one day what the results would be like for: 1. A single 12" speaker in a 4x12 cabinet vs. 4 x 12" speakers in a 4x12 cabinet (maybe also 2 x 12" speakers in a 4x12 cabinet). The 1x12" cab has much less cabinet space so I wonder what the space in a 4x12 cab would sound like on a single wired speaker. 2. For greater mutual coupling effect, imagine a mad scientist designing a 3x3 cab and miking the centre speaker. The question arises of whether a speaker in a 4x12 cab is affected by mutual coupling by the speaker beside it and the speaker below it (if the top left speaker is selected for example)?

"I really liked the sound of the wall" OF COURSE YOU DID MAN 😆😆🤘🤘🤘

I have a 2x12 Marshall cabinet with one angled speaker and a vertical one. Does anybody know if that affects mutual coupling ?

I can't help but notice the book behind your head titled 'STONER' 🤘🏻🤣

I preferred both together . I was surprised how much more low end and warmth the 1 by 12 added when combined with the 4 by 12 and I know this is heresy but I actually liked the 1 by 12 on its own the second best . It had more warmth to it and the 4 by 12 sounded thinner to my ears.

Can you make a comparison between sound coming from the front vs back of the cab?

Hi Johan🙂 great video as always... Do you always use a power attenuator when you are playing through vintage Greenbacks?

Johan, would love to hear you shoot out a 2150 (inputs jumped) vs a 2203 ! 🙏🏼

Hej Johan! Dave Friedman och Mark Huzanski verkar vara intresserade av att intervjua dig i sin podcast ”Tone Talk”, Mark nämnde för några dagar sedan i avsnittet med Dweezil Zappa att de kommer söka dig för deltagande 🤩 tack för intressanta videos!

1x12 + 4x12 together sounds huger than huge. That's a fantastic doubletracking recipe.

I loved it, thank you! but @ 7:38 we are also hearing H magnet compared to M magnet no? I'm hearing a lot of difference in some simply from the T1281 to the T1221. Cheers. :)

during My time as a sound engineer i found in small venues like clubs and halls the single speaker would always cut thru the mix. that single point sound source often didnt even need to go thru the PA

please please please do a video of a cranked 71' twin into a 412 with JBLs! k120s if possible. Been longing to hear it.