The Surprising Sound Difference Between

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RiffCodger

RiffCodger

3 ай бұрын

Looking at the #sound and # tone differences between a #Gibson #j45 studio #rosewood and a #Martin D18 #mahogany.
It's a 2022 martin d18 reimagined and a 2023 j45 studio rosewood.
Time stamp chapters,
00:01 what are we looking at?
01:48 the Gibson J45 sound
02:30 comments on the j45
03:47 more playing of j45
04:15 comments on D18
06:40 playing sound of D18
09:30 final comments imho
some tunes of mine using these guitars,
amazingradio.com/profile/pete...

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@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Well thanks Jeff. That was a really interesting contribution to the discussion. And wow, you have played some great guitars. Thank you so much for watching and sharing your experiences. Loved hearing them. Cheers mate.
@mrcolin2u
@mrcolin2u 3 ай бұрын
I’ve played both recently in music stores. The Martin D18 standard I played today is the absolute best sounding guitar I have ever heard . I currently own a custom D18 with Adirondack top but the regular D18 with Sitka spruce is the best value and tone in my opinion including much more expensive models.
@jeffr985
@jeffr985 3 ай бұрын
Both are great sounding guitars. I enjoyed your playing....Thanks! Mahogany typically seems more much more mellow in sound to me. Would be interested in hearing a comparision between the Gibson and a Martin D-28 since it is rosewood as well. Martin's are usually pretty consistent, Gibson not so much. Seems like you may have landed one of those "special" Gibsons everyone talks about.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot Jeff. Yes, the d28 is strangely not as different sounding as the Gibson. Crazy.
@aquaboneus
@aquaboneus Ай бұрын
perfect pair- keep these two and be done... gotta keep em both!
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 Ай бұрын
Thanks @aquaboneous I am going to keep them. And thanks for watching man. Cheers.
@slpc30
@slpc30 2 ай бұрын
They both sound amazing !
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 2 ай бұрын
Thank you @slpc30. And thanks for watching. Cheers.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Yes sean. True. And yet i love that martin mahogany tone. Its a rock and a hard place. Thanks for watching. Appreciate it.
@IanBroon1
@IanBroon1 2 ай бұрын
Great informative video, I’ve been looking into a used D-18 or Gibson Songwriter maybe also have a look at j-45 studio. Thanks
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 2 ай бұрын
I'm happy it was some use to you @IanBroon. Thanks for watching. I can recommend both of these. Cheers.
@webber0143
@webber0143 Ай бұрын
I had a Gibson Songwriter. I've played the D-18, D-28 & HD versions. In my opinion, the Songwriter takes the cake. Awesome sounding guitar!
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Thanks robert. That rosewood is really sweet. But the martin tone is also special. Cheers mate.
@gregorylumpkin2128
@gregorylumpkin2128 3 ай бұрын
Nice playing mate. These two guitars both respond well to your playing style here even though they have a different tonal character. I like both, but prefer the sound of the Gibson.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Thanks very much @gregorylumpkin. This Gibson does sound good , surprisingly good. But that martin sound is so good too. 😂
@stevenkirkpatrick7258
@stevenkirkpatrick7258 2 ай бұрын
Personally I am a Martin guy , I have 2 of them. However I also have a J-45 Mahogany and I barely play it to be honest with you. It just doesn’t have the magic ya know like when you strum a chord and it sounds like a piano or an organ and it literally inspires you to play better.. both my Martins do this and well. In fact one of them I had no intention of purchasing it because it was a crossover Nylon guitar and I had never played a nylon guitar that not only sounded good but wasn’t difficult to play but that Martin 00016c nylon didn’t have the 2+ inch nut and flat fretboard and it was set up phenomenally . It took me strumming 2-3 chords and I knew I was talking it home to my amazement. Like I said I didn’t like nylon guitars previously. But it had that “ magic “ that inspired you to not only play better but also inspired what you played on it , and it’s a Mahogany guitar back and sides. My other Martin is Rosewood back and sides. Mahogany has the midrange whereas Rosewood has the midrange scooped out lots of Lows and lots of highs but hardly any mids , great for a singers voice to fill in the mids . That’s my take on the difference between Rosewood and Mahogany.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 2 ай бұрын
That is a very interesting statement Steven. Thanks for contributing to the conversation. That gut strung sounds fantastic. And yes there is a special sound to a Martin that I don't like to be without. Cheers, and thanks for watching.
@nomadexplorer6682
@nomadexplorer6682 3 ай бұрын
Interesting comparison. Martin's tone and timbre is more deeper. Keep up your good work.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Thanks nomad. Much appreciated. And thanks for watching mate. Cheers.
@MollyMcGuire100
@MollyMcGuire100 2 ай бұрын
I have a J-45 burst Mahogany 1950s reissue (2018), and a D-28 (2019). The Martin is a bit more upmarket. Wasn't the J-45 just an average guitar at first? The tone woods aren't average though. J-45 got a reputation. Martin was never average. As for the sound I love them both. Probably would keep the Martin over the J-45. I love the fingerboard.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 2 ай бұрын
Hi @mollyMcGuire100, thanks for the interesting comments. I tend to agree with you, I just love that D18. I suppose I'm fond of this J45 because it's so easy to play with a short scale and a narrower depth than the martin. I wish I'd made the same choices as you. D28 rosewood and j45 mahogany. Thanks for watching, cheers.
@Stitchyes567
@Stitchyes567 2 ай бұрын
I prefer the look of a round shoulder and that studio rosewood sounded very good indeed
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 2 ай бұрын
Thanks @StitchYes567, it is sounding surprisingly good I would agree. And it is a tad easier to play than the D18. Thanks for watching, 🍻
@amanontheland7892
@amanontheland7892 3 ай бұрын
The Gibson is deep and tonally appealing. I was surprised too. The Martin would be my 2nd choice in this comparison.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
An interesting comment Aman. Thanks for watching.
@MacPakinga-gl8bu
@MacPakinga-gl8bu 3 ай бұрын
Nice 🎸👍🏼🎸 thankyou 🎸👍🏼
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Thanks mac. Much appreciated. Cheers mate.
@josephbarrett8287
@josephbarrett8287 3 ай бұрын
They both sound good, but the Gibson had a brighter sound. I have a Yamaha LLTA that has Rosewood back and sides. I just love it
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Cheers Joseph. That rosewood does sound sweet. But I love the mahogany martin tone too😂
@johnarney8022
@johnarney8022 3 ай бұрын
I Love the Gibson! With my ears and a good speaker the panoramic sound of the Gibson is hands down best. Don’t lose that baby. Get her insured.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching John. Yes😂 I think I will get it insured. Great advice. Cheers mate.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
I think you make a good point @mrcolin2u. These newish D18's can sound sensation. I'm also surprised by how good this gibson sounds. Thanks for watching. Much appreciated. Cheers.
@mrcolin2u
@mrcolin2u 3 ай бұрын
I did own a standard D18 about few years ago and foolishly sold it. Before then I was a rosewood fan but these days I much prefer the sound of mahogany.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Yeah. I love um both😂
@mattbruns556
@mattbruns556 3 ай бұрын
I love Martin D-18s. There’s something plain spoken about them that sounds like an acoustic should in my head. That said, the Gibson sounds great! Good luck deciding!
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Very true Matt. Thanks for watching mate. Cheers.
@mikedproducer
@mikedproducer 2 ай бұрын
Is this the newest version of the studio? Where the body thickness is the same as a standard?
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 2 ай бұрын
Hi @mikedproducer, no it's not. The new one is super expensive and apart from the body depth, no real difference. Not sure if it sounds any better either. This one is much more comfortable to play too. Thanks for watching. Cheers.
@lanceriffle4841
@lanceriffle4841 3 ай бұрын
I didn't think I would ever hear a Gibby sound better than a Martin but it sure does over the You Tube channel.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
I think you're right lance. It's weird because Martins have always been my first choice. Thanks for watching.
@atcstooge3497
@atcstooge3497 Ай бұрын
So which one did you keep?
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 Ай бұрын
I've still got both. Sold a couple of other guitars so I could keep them. Just couldn't let um go.😍
@Emperorjones
@Emperorjones 3 ай бұрын
You really can’t go wrong with either one mate. That rosewood is pushing more air, and is a bit more percussive with it’s attack. For me the Martin would physically be more comfortable to play, especially while standing. They both will record wonderfully… I’m certain of that. I’d keep both of them. Two beautiful instruments.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot emp. I think you're probably right. I put some recordings on that I did after the video and they both sound great to me. Thanks for watching mate. Cheers.
@ericjohnson9928
@ericjohnson9928 3 ай бұрын
I think it depends on your style,, if more a strummer,, the Gibson. If you do individual notes the Martin.. but seems your style does both..which leans me toward the Martin.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your response @ericjohnson9928. I think you're probably right. That's a very big guitar playing name you have there Eric. Cheers mate.
@sarahbethcohen2864
@sarahbethcohen2864 3 ай бұрын
I prefer the Martin. But you seem to like the Gibson. Which ever one you like, go with your gut feeling.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Hi Sara. Thanks for watching. I love the sound of both but that gibson is so sweet. Yet my heart is with the martin. Crazy.
@michaeladams2644
@michaeladams2644 3 ай бұрын
Trouble is the sound you hear sat on top of the instrument is not what the listener hears, plus once you start playing with other instruments the sound you have blends differently for better or worse, for my money i prefer the martin❤
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
A good point Michael. Its strange. Someday the Martin sounds unbeatable but this Gibson is always sweet. 👌
@tjstevens001
@tjstevens001 2 ай бұрын
Just keep them both. They both have their uses.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 2 ай бұрын
So far so good @tjstevens001, I've still got both. And you are right Tim, they are two very different guitars. Thanks for watching. Cheers.
@peterjames2580
@peterjames2580 3 ай бұрын
J45 has got it for me.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
It does sound sweet Peter. But that D18 has got something about it. Thanks for watching. Much appreciated. Cheers mate.
@peterjames2580
@peterjames2580 3 ай бұрын
@@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 I'm building D-28's right now and love that tone, but the J 45 had a more sweet & rich bottom end and full spectrum thru all strings. Thanks for sharing your guitars.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Cheers Peter.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
amazingradio.com/profile/petemac2/tunes/d79a4519-8b7c-4525-b64f-51eed5b0a76b
@jeffhildreth9244
@jeffhildreth9244 3 ай бұрын
I have owned many Gibsons.. about 10, and more Martins, around 15 since 1961.. the older the better, pre 1980s is my preference. My choice in Martins has always been Mahogany backs and sides... and specifically D-18s and 00-18. I currently have a 2015 00-18V with flamed Mahogany backs and sides, an exception to my usual vintage. A couple of my Gibsons were outstanding,, my first a 1946 J45 bought in 1965 for $100.. fantastic guitar.. sadly stolen in 1967. The next I liked was the WM-45 which was the only other Gibson I have owned I would say was equally good. When you find an exceptional Gibson there is nothing like it, and nothing Martin can touch. Finding such a Gibson is difficult as Gibson is consistently inconsistent. The Gibson in this video was, to me, one such Gibson. The Martin, while good, was not spectacular. I am not a rosewood fan, but this particular Gibson was outstanding. Would I buy it, no. Gibsons are grossly over-priced. I'll continue my search for another WM-45.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 Ай бұрын
Thanks very much Jeff. That was interesting indeed. I would still be sad about that stolen 45. Heart breaking. Thanks for watching and making such interesting comments. Cheers.
@armasxu
@armasxu 3 ай бұрын
u got it the other way around mate mate, gibson is famous for its mahogany and martin is for rosewood lol
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Well you're right @armasxu and that's what is surprising me😂. Thanks for watching mate. Cheers.
@larrnew
@larrnew 3 ай бұрын
I’ll take the one you don’t want…😛
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
😂 OK Larry. I'll send it when I've finished paying for it😂 If you're in the USA I couldn't afford the postage mate. Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoyed it. Cheers.
@nickj6138
@nickj6138 3 ай бұрын
Gibson is so rich, brighter. I'd keep the Gibson!
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
It's a difficult decision nick. Thanks for watching man. Hoping I can keep them both. We'll see.
@eljefe.o386
@eljefe.o386 3 ай бұрын
The Gibson is a Jumbo
@powbobs
@powbobs 3 ай бұрын
@@eljefe.o386 Jumbo is Gibson’s name for a dreadnaught.
@eljefe.o386
@eljefe.o386 2 ай бұрын
@@powbobs I own two J’s
@powbobs
@powbobs 2 ай бұрын
@@eljefe.o386 I own a 12 fret Southern Jumbo custom shop.
@seanwilson471
@seanwilson471 3 ай бұрын
The Gibson definitely has more sustain and a lovely rich tone. The Martin sounds a quieter as it's not a studio but also a lighter tone. I think also the Gibson tone seemed more balanced across the strings.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Sean. You make some excellent points. Cheers mate.
@robertdurando7152
@robertdurando7152 3 ай бұрын
I think the Gibson sounds so full with loads of overtones. My preference anyway. Both are great.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching @robertdurando7152. I agree. On this comparison the Gibson is sounding great.
@colakeith1
@colakeith1 3 ай бұрын
Actually, the Gibson J45 studio w/rosewood would be more comparable to the Martin D-28. THAT is the difference. The standard J45 with mahogany would be the true comparison to the D-18. You are comparing apples and oranges. Of course there are striking differences.. As well the differences of a D-28 as with the D-18. This comparison is really wrong. They BOTH sound wonderful. Keep them BECAUSE of their differences.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Keith you are absolutely correct. But check out some of the d28 and d18 comparisons on the tube. I sort of hear much less difference than with the Gibson maybe. Thanks for watching man.
@stevebernard221
@stevebernard221 3 ай бұрын
Here's my take for what it's worth: If it was me I would find a way to keep both, lol. They sound good for sure. However, here is what I'm hearing: Because the tuning is down a half step, I think the bass response on the J-45 is exaggerated. Rosewood has more bass in general, and a little less tension actually makes the bass less tight, sound like more bass and "richer". The D-18 also has a bit more bass response when tuned down but you still hear the mids ring through, and presents with more clarity in the notes. Overall, tuned half down or to standard pitch, I often find the D-18 is clear and will punch in the mix or jam due to the mids from the Mahogany. It still has a good bass response, but not enough to take away from the mids and treble...making it clear to my ears. There is a lot of personal preference in choosing an instrument of course. What one may like another may not! All the best
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
That's a pretty erudite response Steve. Thanks for your input. I would tend to agree with just about everything you say. At the moment I'm still hanging on to both of them. Thanks for watching mate, cheers.
@RahulSharma-ry2pg
@RahulSharma-ry2pg 3 ай бұрын
Connot compare Chipson to Quality Martin Guitar .... if you like Rosewood get D41-45 or D28... Martin is the far best sounding than Chipson
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Hi Rahul and thanks for some interesting comments. It is actually a Gibson j45 not a chibson Chinese copy. I had a D28 for 40 years. A wonderful guitar. But I've got to hand it to this Gibson. It is a belter😂 cheers mate, and thanks for watching.
@RahulSharma-ry2pg
@RahulSharma-ry2pg 3 ай бұрын
@@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 thanks 🙏 all that matters is the sound we are after… I am a Martin Sound lover… every one has their own taste… two thinks I don’t like about Gibson 1) Build quality from one guitar to another same configuration is not consistent 2) Prone to neck breaking close to truss rod as there is not enough wood… keep that in mind … I myself own D-18 sinker golden era and D-41 that is a cut above any Martins I have played
@RahulSharma-ry2pg
@RahulSharma-ry2pg 3 ай бұрын
@@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z7CFpNd2yNaWaHk.html
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
Good man
@John-wr6yo
@John-wr6yo 3 ай бұрын
I guess i have enough different kinds of guitars ,and at this age it should qualify me to be an official member of the old fart acoustic guitar demo club.
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 3 ай бұрын
😂😂 harsh but fair John, harsh but fair. And you know what they say? It takes one to know one😂 Thanks for watching, cheers mate.
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