Tartan holy I read this comment as it was said in the video

not if it actually executes an attack. it would lose it's stealth very quickly because everybody would actually be looking harder.

@@mohdridzuanisa2373 no

Kaptein yes actually when tornados are fired they produce a bubble trail and the detonation of a torpedo would expose the submarine even more

@@rogrock9509 yet stealth torpedoes are being developed by the Russians ? Germany has apparently helped China do the same if Germany has a hand in it then its serious.

Hey, you cheated

theflanman86 all is fair in love and WAR.

Not GG.

Crap is crap no matter how expenssive it is 🤣🤣

Limach evreone like that

Haha 👍

😂

Klockrent!!

Legend

haha😂😂

Falukorv..

Troll Berg haha

It is, but let's not get carried away. The facts here are that the Gotland Class submarine uses an ultra silent propulsion method to avoid cavitation in comparison to other diesel submarines. It's a fun story to think about how a smaller nation like Sweden could sink the mighty nuclear carriers of the United States. But that's all it is. The war game that's talked about was when a Swedish carrier was put in the perfect situation to attack the Reagan: - It had predetermined knowledge of where the carrier would be operating - It was able to attack a ship that was not traveling at its top speed, and therefore was able to keep pace - War games do not take into account countermeasures or weapon system failures The entire point of this story is to foolishly undermine the US Navy. In reality, the Swedish submarine would have no idea where the Reagan is. It doesn't have fuel to be wandering around the oceans for weeks hunting for it. And United States Carriers rarely travel at speeds with which the Gotland can match speed without cavitation occurring. None of these factors mean anything anyways because Sweden is an ally to the United States, no other country has such capable submarines besides the United States and their Seawolf class submarines. Let me ask you something: If it were as easy to sink American Carriers by just making stealthy submarines, why hasn't China kicked the United States out of the Pacific by now? Why does Russia refuse to challenge the United States for the seas? It's because it's not that simple. United States nuclear carriers are the most powerful and well protected weapons of war in the world, and every single Admiral, General and defense member would not argue that. It's an interesting story though, nonetheless. I've just seen it dozens of times now because it's easy to get views with making videos on this topic.

Horrible4 nah us navy dogshit

Stickey Sickness us navy dogshit

David Vasquez Swedes have some surprisingly good war equipment but not the military budget to mass produce

David Vasquez nah they wouldn’t be able to hold an invasion

TheCamoTrooper 450 Sweden is one of the richest countries though? Do you mean not the money to mass produce or that they don’t prioritize to mass produce?

Eric Petit they only make to defend the homeland mainly

David Vasquez yes but even if they tried against China or the us they would lose

Not really. It's worth noting that In real life Carrier can evade Torpedo's or the escorting vessels can and will most likely Launch decoy's and use their CIWS to Destroy the incoming torpedo. Because this was a wargame exercise, The Swedish submarine only had to take photo's While In real life Torpedo's can be very Easily detected on sonar or Spotted by a crew. in real life, The Gotland wouldn't have been able to do multiple Runs on the Carrier, As Once a carrier spots a torpedo then the presence of a submarine would be very clear. Also, The wargame exercise took place on a patch of the sea, In rea life The ocean is much Larger and a real war means The Gotland will have 10 times lesser chance at finding a carrier. So wargames aren't completely Accurate, Which is why Some things might happen in wargames but not in Real war. A lot of people don't understand this and they often make jokes about this without analyzing it them selves.

Haha submarie-

@@Justineexy its a joke. Take it

It can't

The stealthy boi

who would win: usa air force of 5000 aircraft strength with 400 ICBMs Or the country of sweden

Emilios Powerballer some1 got offended...

One aqua viking

* one stealthy Swedish boi

Sir Drabbe that wasn’t a good 1

HACCCC HASHKS

So true!! French Rafale beat a F22 raptor during a dogfight at the REDFLAG 2009....It was a humiliation for the US airforce. Since then France is no more invited to this event

😂

Outmatches everyone in Red Flag and Loyal Arrow air force wargames and now we have the best equipped sea vessels to take out the largest navy on the planet.

Idek you could sink them big ass things

jerry Kinsey especially considering they never sail alone, usually with other support ships

ChonkBoi idiot it was a full battle simulation and they got through if it was real the aircraft carrier would have been destroyed and these war exercises are with a full complement of tech and support ships

@@thedieselguy4733 every aircraft carrier has a group of ships to protect it and one sub around it. it never go alone in the battlefield.

Im also Swedish!!! Hej!

They do these exercises to find weaknesses. The US has already fixed this weakness.

@@fulldangle Sure buddy... Like other countries don't adept their strategies and techniques, let alone give them all away to foreign countries such as the US....

@@pieterveenders9793you sound like a knob ... Yeah backward stuff like thats happening no shit.. you literally just admitted they have to copy AMERICA and act as of AMERICA isn't capable of doing the same... Or developing new strategies.

There are so many places, so many situations where this submarine would be perfect AND it has been improved since then. " One size fits all" seems pig-headed and a foolish. I think about the Danish Straits, Gibraltar, the strait between Yemen and Eritrea, Strait of Hormuz, and the Singapore Strait all of which have huge ship movements of importance.

@@fulldangle Huh? Well of course.

The biggest deterrant is Corona virus. It is a stealth killer. The Roosevelt carrier has been taken out by the virus. The Chinese is being degraded by the stealth virus

@@timtemple5218 You sound like a internet philospher

Go away POG.

@@theduder7709 No Officer. I won't. Who do you think you are?

A submarine is the most valuable asset of any navy

ask the Dutch, IKEA belongs to them now

Hinsh shhhh, Swedes know more about ikea thank anyone inte the world...

@@hinsh What a funny joke

Try opening the page in swedish version

You can’t because it’s not real an aircraft carrier never got sunk since World War II

IKEA MEATBALL

But the us has nuclear subs, lol go against us and you're fuked

@@TheRealJaded you can’t hurt what you can’t see or hear.

Hold my köttbullar

ha,ha

Ja jag brukar prata med havet då och då

TDor jag med

havet pratar svenska nu

Some hear waves. Swedes hear whispering.

Jo men asså, man pratar ju med havet då och då.

Agreed! Him and mark Felton consistently put out great history videos.

Definitely

@@johnnyyen4910 (He and Mark ...). When the pronoun is in the subject of the sentence, use he.

Apologies. I shall endeavour to use correct grammar in future youtube comments.

@@johnnyyen4910 I just want you to project yourself in a better light. No apologies necessary.

LOL

Make believe, nothing more.

@Trell Brown 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀

LaggyMcGee it go 😶 real guud

LaggyMcGee it go 😶 real guud

LaggyMcGee it go 😶 real guud

Is that a bandit on your profile picture?

i think that the swedish submarine is one of the best submarine in the world bc it dont make any sound

Bet the captain was laughing his ass off when the US ships radioed in at the end of the games to ask wtf happened

USA: Okay now we're going to have to destroy your whole country with one ICBM and salt the earth afterward. Sweden: Oh crap

Now imagine a North korean sub with nuclear bomb set of right under a carrier group

Yes Bjørn,...Kabøøm! :)

@@Karl-Benny imagine 18 trident tipped nuclear missiles turning North Korea into a parking lot. We have submarines that are tracking the submarines that track our submarines lol.

*billions

id rather have the carrier than a sub if im a general

@@darugdawg2453 It really depends who you're an admiral for if I were the admiral of the Swedish navy I'd prefer the subs because they can silently defend the coast against a larger navy and their range isn't an issue since they'll never leave the baltic, but if I were a US admiral I'd rather have the carrier battle group because the US will have to go longer ranges and the US naval producing infrastructure is good enough to replace ships in case of them being lost.

America: Lets pretend spending $70,000 on haircuts and deduct it from tax.

@@augustus4711 more like United States: Letting all politicians go on multimillion dollar trips mostly foe the hell of it. *uses the taxpayers money like a boss*

This is the point of a WarGame isn't it? It's meant to test and improve the tactics and technologies used.

Problem is any time we've intentionally tried to sink a carrier ourselves it has been much harder than expected. So a wargame "Kill shot" is much different than a real life shot from a sub.

No shit, Sherlock

@@Ubersnuber Chill mate

@@DurzoBlunts well, inevitably, the methods used to 'simulate' attacks don't account for all variables. for instance, air-to-air missiles in real conflict have a pretty poor track record, but how do you accurately simulate how the real weapons and defenses function in a wargame where actually firing at the target is off limits? There's limits and factors that cannot be accounted for by any test that doesn't follow through on the actual attack. You can of course, try computer simulations, but that presents a different variation of the same problem - the simulation is only as accurate as the data it's based on, and almost never perfectly reflects reality...

your name is screwed😂🤣😂

Felix Grøn No.

If I was the commander of the swedish sub i would have stuffed the torpedo tubes with surströmming cans and fired them at the us carrier. That would have teached them a lesson...

@@augustus4711 too evil

Putin Bowling with nukes yeah Australia did the same thing but it was a us destroyer.

who cares about submarins , take a 5k bomb put it 5-10 miles from the coast and sweden ,finnland and norway are gone

@@projekktmonarch5766 And the US too. Ever familiarised yourself with the concept of DEFCON?

@@villager1831 The US has defence systems capable of taking out whatever missile Russia has, and over 90% of their (Russias) nuclear bombs are dumb bombs dropped from planes.

@@owo1744 If you seriously believe that USA would survive a nuclear war situation, you either don’t know what it is or you’re delusional. USA’s best protection is the fact that they are also in possession of said weapons. ICBM’s have the highest chance of being stopped while they’re being launched, after that it’s dependent on a lot of factors, but USA would definitely not go unscathed in any form or shape.

@@villager1831 If it weren't for their space ships.

Yeah, annoying. I tried 0,75x playback for a while, but I think it needs 80-85%.

Morning Napalm what about m&m?😮

Ignorant Ethan what

I think its because he speaks so cut off. So like 2 words, pause, 3 words, pause, 1 word, end of sentence. Its just annoying

I was looking for a comment mentioning this lol

Swen put your viking helmet on and get up front we are going to ram big metal ship

@@donmckeoun7990 Venezuela: *starts sweating* See the recent RCGS Resolute incident.

@@feelx92ger what's next kamikaze Vikings on surf boards

What interest would a football team have in boats?

I mean, there's the USS Minnesota. . .

HAHAHAHAHA

And the a Visby Corvette disappears into ghost mode as well 😀

U play gta online ryt😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Meganonr1 this has to be the best comment i’ve seen in a while 😂😂💀💀

I can't stop laughing 😂 😂

Stolen

TF is that profile pic! Hahahaha!

LOL!!! this is the best comment😂

Erik Johnson no

Erik Johnson The US leased that submarine for two more years following this. If there were still any problems, they would have probably leased it for longer. In addition, these subs are 16+ years old and don’t have the technology modern subs have. Although they have noise suppression that was good by 2004 standards, they are no longer as quiet as US vessels.

@@aycc-nbh7289 "UsA USA uSa usA USA"

@@aycc-nbh7289 True, the swedish kockums have released new subs which are way better. Will be interesting to see how long it takes before US lease one of them and how many years they need in order to find it.

In a real life conflict half the task force would be blaring away with active sonar, being quiet does fuck all

BRemO usa has all the money but 3 subs is impressive

Pro tip: Army = soldiers on land, tanks, etc. Navy = sailors on ships

I mean there is a reason why battle ships were decommissioned due to its size leaving it vulnerable, super carriers are just like that just more defended

Wow did you think of that all by yourself

How can an army be torpedoed? I guess the torpedo have to fly and detonate n a dry land..😅😅😅😅

Well, it work's both ways. :-D Sweden can not single handed fight Russia. We also need friends.

No, only nuclear ones. Most ships use diesel or diesel-electric

That's weak Like shit

it that fool was commanding that sub entire world would be shelling it just to stop his crappy content,

The only way they'll achieve that is through their Trojan horse bases scattered all around the world, codenamed IKEA.

Sweden have no Money but they have brainsss :D ( Swedish) vi har inga pengar med vi har hjärnor. :D

No, we let the super powers fight it out, and we gladly sell them the arms to do so.

Agge Noob sweden has no money?? what are u talking about, we have great economy here lol

@@robban2252 To be fair, we are a small country by absolute numbers, we are only wealthy if you start to calculate wealth per capita.

I wonder how many screws came in that kit?

R B And did it come with that shitty little wrench 🔧 😤

IKEA VS WALMART Carrier .

We have it here in ikea😂

carrier made by same people that build cities of paperhouses beeing wiped away each year when the hurricanes come.

@Steve Smith lol didnt you know this is fake

@@illuminatiaqi6130 Whats fake?

@@illuminatiaqi6130 no it was not

Is this some kind of weird joke or are you serious?

@Steve Smith 1) the guy is ironic 2) It was a simulation...the Uss Ronald Reagan is still in active service today and is one of the biggest aircraft carriers on earth

you forgot to open the tube and heat the torp

* Torpedo launching infesties *

Nuclear submarines can't be detected either, it's been that way for decades. I'm sure this video makes all this technology seem new and cutting edge but stealth submarines aren't new. The thing that makes this submarine design unique is that it's not nuclear powered and can be produced cheap in comparison to nuclear subs.

@@Bitchslapper316 nuclear subs are always more loud than diesel electric boats, the only class that sort of circumvented the problem is the russian Typhoon class, only one of which is operational at this moment. they used a naturally circulating water system for their powerplant, meaning that most of the pumps could be shut-down at low speeds, meaning you only hear the screw blades and the electric engines.

@@arjentromp12 The typhoon class is 45 years old and was the largest submarine class ever built, modern submarines have adapted similar technologies. Modern nuclear submarines are as undetectable as the AIP submarines like the one highlighted in this video. The cost of development and resources is what sets them apart.

It was a war game, not a belligerent teacher classroom situation.

Texas Hunter sorry dad

Texas Hunter sorry dad

@@texan6673 sorry dad

Texas Hunter sorry dad

Do they service the whole sub with one wrench???

@ Yes, blessed by Saint Kamprad of Ikea himself.

@@Marcusianery LOL

Jokes aside, maintenance and durability is so to speak "scienced the shit out of", and that gives Swedish equipment cheap and long usage. The Swedish SAAB 39 Gripen fighter jet cost about 4800$ per flight hour, while only the fuel costs of the eurofighter Tycoon is about 18K. And American planes are ranging from 11-35K in maintenance

You might want to actually listen to the vid and try to think a little. These subs have very limited capabilities. Then again, the Sweds don't need much.

I wouldn’t be proud that my government gave away military secrets to another country.

@@cassu6 They didn't. Tactics sure. Technology. No way

US also leased the sweedish stealth frigate, as they couldn't get a reliable radarsignature on it. It did really resemble a much smaller fishingwessel, and would be devastating as an opponent without direct line of seight and visible confirmation.

Ye well but I doubt umerika would be rdy to conquer a land like Sweden. As far i know usa never fought a winter war in the Mountains. Swedens military is no joke on their home front.

@Rory Spoons lol its Funny you even mention it. Well ofc not the only rival to us, is russia. All im saying is. If America had to Conquer Sweden for some far future reason. I dont think it would be as easy as it might seem.

Keep taking a whiskey in between, it's the only way I'm going to get through the lock down with some of my sanity

He only speaks at super-fast speed already

"Swedenastan"

Portuguese sub"Barracuda" did similar to "USS Eisenower" during an mid 80s NATO exercise.

@@nommadd5758 Wanker

Sub standard! :P

They think that have the most advanced weapons lol

Pumping money into the military was the only way for the us not to be classed as a third world country....oh wait...

@Rory Spoons Also the people are suffering because the healthcare system is failing 😒

Wudi ' we aren’t suffering. We’re actually quite fine. I’ll live in New York, the epicenter of the corona virus in the US, and things aren’t as bad as they say on the news. The news always portrays things worse than they really are. So no people are not suffering as much as you think. Some may be suffering but it certainty isn’t everyone

The Imperium of man, under the leadership of the God-Emperror.

Underrated

The top of the line technology. Which wasn’t allowed to be used during this war game.

Never underestimate IKEA 🤣

Why is that you would think that nuclear would be quieter?

@@lostinspacestudio non-nuclear subs don't have a turbine in them but nuclear have an infinite range comparatively well only limited by human consumables

Christian Hogue ... Diesel Electric non-nuc boats are quieter when operating on batteries. Nuc boats as I was on had steam turbines and seawater pumps operating. Electric motor propulsion operating off off a battery are quiet in comparison. However nuc boats have much greater endurance over diesel-electric boats. I left submarines before the newer AIP boats were operating. I can’t speak on those.

@@lostinspacestudio Nuclear subs and ships have machinery that has to continuously run because of the reactor. Diesel subs can shut everything off to become noiseless. When I was a sonar operator in the Royal Canadian Navy (HMCS Regina) I always found it easier to find and track nuclear subs because of this.

@@SammywiseG ….The trade off is operational range. A nuclear boat can swiftly cross the Pacific from the west coast or rapidly transit towards from the east coast too the the Mediterranean or northern waters. I’m not saying this to disparage non-nuclear submarines.

Indeed! Sweden has some of the best arms manufacturing on the globe, absolutely world class military hardware... it is genuinely unfortunate that their government sucks so much.

While the Gripen is without a doubt an excellent platform. Especially for a nation like Sweden where their roles are defensive rather than offensive. I would really like to see the study that you were talking about. Any idea as to the name of it or a link to it?

@@cgustafson240 theaviationgeekclub.com/former-swedish-air-force-flight-engineer-explains-how-the-saab-gripen-can-dogfight-and-win-against-almost-any-dissimilar-aircraft/

The three rounds you were talking about were against Norwegian pilots. Now lets be fair. The Gripen A version which was what the article was talking about, is even with some and better than most of the fighters of its era. Meaning these were planes with 80s and 90s tech. The Gripen E is comparable to the F35 and Sweden themselves say it possibly isn't quite as good, most of which has to do with the stealth technology that the F35 and F22 have which the Gripen does not have.

And not a single time has the US Abrams been able to take out the Swedish modified Leopard 2.. Or any other country using a variant of the Leo for that matter.

Yeah, imagine using that in a ready environment... "So, why did we loose all of our subs?" *Awkward silence "You know that touch screen?"

Lol

Windows Vista

@@ampeg187 🤦‍♂️

maybe its a rocket go boom button, needs an extra "do you really want to kill em all?" layer to it

Under water floor gang?? 😁

*underwater ceiling gang*

Swedish Air Force: Ceiling Gang! Navi/Army: SMALL PEEPEE

drain gang

Peanut butter jelly time

For a blue water centered navy (USN) nuclear is the way to go. Supplies can be replenished at sea, in a small port overseas or large port at home. The gotland excels at defending its nations home watets, what it was designed for. Nuclear subs are for long extended duration missions. They'll stay under the waves longer than a diesel can for air before needing supplies only. 111 days is a long time without needing to surface. Nuclear reactors dont need to be shut down for very quiet running... They shut down cooling pumps under no speed or very slow speed and let natural convection current of water cool the reactor. Thus allowing them to disappear into the noise of the ocean.

@@DurzoBlunts the Gotland class sub use liquid oxygen so it cam stay underwater for it's whole mission

@@Rullstolsboken If thier whole mission is 2 weeks then yeah. It's right tool for the job in coastal defence.

@@DurzoBlunts I thought that even with no pumps working, nuclear reactors will vibrate unless shut down completely, and as such still be more noisy then a non-nuclear submarine can be. I heard it on Jive Turkey channel. I think he said he served on a nuclear sub, but I heard all that long ago so I don't want to say that as a fact.

@@shepardpolska Jive was a sonar man iirc.

How original

..I read what'yer did thar... ;) :P

Murica used this to lure Russia to attack!

RevenantCheetosx not familiar. Do explain plz. Very curious.

How is this good

I have A life “humility is the path to all success. Pride is the downfall of the successful.” -George Washington.

@@growingsubstostartacommuni3822 If we just shook it off, and said it was a stroke of luck then we'd have our carriers get sunk in an actual war. No military is perfect so naturally someone bested us in something, but now we can adjust so Chinese, and Russian diesel subs won't be a threat. Not only that but now we've let the Swedes know they have very effective submarines, and should continue perfecting them.

@@markj2093 Yes, pumps can be loud but not always. Even a passively cooled reactor can create noise from bubbles or flow through the coolant lines. I was mostly thinking of (diesel) electric subs. The latest generation can use hydrogen fuel cells to generate electricity and the electric motors are coupled directly to the prop shaft. So, no pumps or gearboxes at all. The easiest way to find those subs might be to look for the "black hole" in the sea where absolutely no noise is coming from...

JC130676 Hold up. The Inuit? Can you explain?

@@coledavis5212 No. It was a highly classified operation so if you want to know, you'll have to go there and ask them yourself. ;-)

Deepest secrecy by Jaime Karremann is a good book about 6 Dutch submarines operations. Gathering intelligence about Soviet Navy during the cold war..

"submarines are almost impossible to detect" Germany's Uboats were devastating convoys at the beginning of WW2, but by the end were routinely detected and sunk at alarming rates.

And they will say it is good

@@vidarrehnstrom5091 Its decent.

*insert Carolus Rex*

Eating meatballs patriotically

Yessssssssssssss

Dominum Maris Baltici

I was gonna post this

@Joakim von Anka Exactly. Always training and working your own weaknesses. Don't and you die.

Didn't learn from the Australian subs before hand obviously. What makes you think they'll learn now?

@@PepRex from some stuff I was recently reading, about the newest Australian Subs in the pipeline. It appears that some very political decisions were made over the military brass. In buying some extremely expensive French equipment with a lot of shortcomings and cost overruns. It sounded like you guys kinda got the shaft on that one. So I would like to hear your opinion on it?

@@cgustafson240 I don't know I'm not Australian, I just know they sunk a carrier in exercises.

@Joakim von Anka Out of interest, has Russia ever occupied Sweden or made moves against her in recent times? From what I gather, Russia's military is geared for defence, similar to Sweden's. The US is one of the few nations with an occupation and projection military. Anyhow, emotions aside, I'd be more concerned about your government's open door policy to (radical) refugees leading to previously unheard of scenarios as in Malmo. You may well find your nation will be taken from within, not from a neighbouring nation...

It is equally safe to say that any country that might do that . . . is taking on a death wish . . .as in the worlds largest 8K degree glass field.

Haha! So true!

Until he tries it and his Kilo gets blasted before getting into position....why? Because we TRAINED against a more proficient crew with better technology

@Rae West Accidents happen... And. Sure the boats maybe quite... But Russian training? Basic sonar capabilities?... Those still lag behind the West to the point where coastal ops are their only chance against the US Navy... Fortunately allied navies have exposed that issue with our training....

Andrew Oriez the smaller the army the more well trained it needs to be, that’s why Russia and the US don’t train to the same level as the European powers, they don’t need to.

@@thebritace9351 I beg to differ.... The United States trains hard and it's excellence is only matched by the other NATO members.... Our personal are among the best out there, and we strive to raise the bar for our allies just as they raise the bar for us..... Our training is just as good as our European Allies.... And vice versa.....

More like Goth boat.

@@stefanhaglund1665 No no, Gutarna (people from Gotland) ain´t Götar (Goths, who lives in Östra and Västra Götaland). The pun is that Gotlands (the island the sub is named after) is that the goat is the island's coat of arms.

*Cold waters

didnt they buy one? or was that some other country

Walrus has the biggest wargame kill score of any Navy ever, absolutely slaughtering the US Navy. Not just an US aircraft carrier like half a dozen countries have scored a kill against. No, the Walrus scored a kill against the Roosevelt, along with it's command ship, 7 destroyers and frigates, and to top it all of a US Navy nuclear attack submarine. All of that and managing to remain undetected and unharmed while getting away scott free. Brutal....

Alex Postma correct.

Abba

Idk rally is cool

Vad menar du

Kolla Sverige under kalla kriget

I love Volvos! I have owned 2 of them. Too bad they stopped making the inline T6 engine my S60 has. Volvo also makes the best seats in the industry. Great cars, Erik, be very proud!