The Terrible History of 90's Marvel with X-Men's ONSLAUGHT!

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One of the most powerful villains the Marvel Universe has ever seen changes everything for the Children of the Atom and Earth's Mightiest Heroes! Behold the psionic force of nature known as Onslaught - but what dread foe could terrify the unstoppable Juggernaut? As Cable battles Post, herald of the oncoming doom, Nate Grey faces a ghost from his past- and Onslaught gathers his forces! The Avengers join the X-Men to work out a battle plan - but could the answers lie with finding Magneto? And Charles Xavier has a troubling proposal for the Fantastic Four. But when Onslaught's identity is revealed, who will be the traitor to the cause? Never miss an episode by subscribing today! bit.ly/2WYvgkt #xmen
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@comicpop 2 жыл бұрын

Buy the trade paperback! amzn.to/3jqLG3w

@marioacosta-warren921 2 жыл бұрын

ah and on my Birthday.

@TheRealZubes 2 жыл бұрын

@@marioacosta-warren921 Happy Birthday!! 🎉

@ridge825 2 жыл бұрын

@@marioacosta-warren921 Happy Birthday dude

@WannabeWryter 2 жыл бұрын

I just watched the Ultraforce Cartoon, it's good. Shame it's been buried.

@NewPhoneWhoThis52 2 жыл бұрын

Why

@jclombardi8471 2 жыл бұрын

That opening skit was pure gold. Happy 400 episodes, ComicPOP! Here's to 400 more!

@oatsaredelicious2521 2 жыл бұрын

I think we should get Ethan an Oscar. He clearly deserves it.

@kd7100 2 жыл бұрын

100%

@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 2 жыл бұрын

*Class:* :D Say the line, Sal! *Sal:* "...Some part of Magneto imprints onto Professor Xavier..." *Class:* YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

@superluigiac 2 жыл бұрын

Us 100%

@grimandbilly005 2 жыл бұрын

I thought what you were wanting Sal to Say is "Juggernaut" lol

@rte3y838 2 жыл бұрын

Do you still comment under the influence of the mustache

@drewaxon6827 2 жыл бұрын

True

@cklambo 2 жыл бұрын

or copied

@jonfedien8637 2 жыл бұрын

The skit at the beginning was fantastic, but for me the breakdown of the industry at the beginning was truly fascinating I know videos about the comic business don't usually do well but I'd love to see a Sal explains pivotal comic book decisions and how they impacted the industry. Kind of like a sister show to back issues.

@jonfedien8637 2 жыл бұрын

@Jarred Kiser a whole episode of sal discussing the 90s antihero boom would be exquisite I know if you watch enough of their videos you can put it together but oh my how good would it be to listen to sal as a comic book historian.

@Zxzero36 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't mine that either. I loved their things about image and stacked and their thoughts on it.

@Alvarakk 2 жыл бұрын

Hear, hear! The story of how Perleman screwed over the industry was infinitely more interesting than the superhero book itself!

@Tamaki742 2 жыл бұрын

@@jonfedien8637 He kinda delved into it in the Bloodlines episode.

@level87code 2 жыл бұрын

I find it so interesting it's the first back issues I watched back to back just so I could absorb it all

@PurpleColonel 2 жыл бұрын

I would honestly love a "back issues" that's just 1 or 2 hours of Marvel's internal politics through the 90s

@tysiudamasceno 8 ай бұрын

Please! I would pay hard earned money to see that.

@jonathanshaw9704 2 жыл бұрын

Man, 400 episodes of Back Issues. HERE’S TO 400 MORE!!!

@xw2542 2 жыл бұрын

It wouldn’t be a momentous back issues without the “some part imprinted” line and a langoliers reference. This is a special one.

@WhelmedButReady 2 жыл бұрын

The only thing missing was the ridiculously circuitous scheme. Haven't heard that one in a while 😅

@OctavianAsix 2 ай бұрын

@@WhelmedButReady these are somehow some of my best my childhood memories

@Smeagolthevile 2 жыл бұрын

"You wanna read it, its Wizard 56" that is the biggest callout that I'v ever seen on this show. Like WOW going for the juggular. A+

@kiko1935 2 жыл бұрын

Ethan is a chilling villain. He also used the word "concordantly" in a sentence so that's cool as well.

@AnnoBathory 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if Geoff Johns read Onslaught and thought, "I can take that Magneto Parasite thing and make it a better retcon for Hal."

@seand7042 2 жыл бұрын

Well that's a scary thought. now I'm wondering what future writer is reading a terrible concept now taking notes from it so they can do a better story on their own later

@HMSL86 2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing.

@HMSL86 2 жыл бұрын

@@seand7042 It certainly is.

@ridge825 2 жыл бұрын

@@seand7042 and you wonder why Spider-man keeps getting clones.

@comicsguru2574 2 жыл бұрын

I’m 26 minutes in and Sal is about to reveal WHY Onslaught was created and holy shit it’s like a documentary I never knew existed but it’s plot HAS to be told. It is literally why comic book events and creative talent are forever intertwined with marketing and sales, it’s the reason things are fucked for comic book fans forever lol. The best episode of Back Issues so far, congratulations to the entire team on 400 incredible episodes and thanks for telling this very important story of one of the least important comic book events ever.

@spheremode3271 2 жыл бұрын

There had to be a "some part of X imprinted onto Y" line in the 400th show, and you guys didn't disappoint

@mackdomann 2 жыл бұрын

Comic Pop’s New Series Sal Overexplains the Comic Universe: a series where Sal blends the real world with the comic world to tell the WHOLE story.

@anthonymarciano6050 2 жыл бұрын

It's called back issues

@comicpop 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry so many of you are so focused on the Bishop element. Hopefully many of you got a lot out of this episode!

@yabbadabbindude 2 жыл бұрын

Fuechah!

@jxbermudez 2 жыл бұрын

I love the collective reaction once Sal says "A part of magneto" like he didn't even finish the statement and the reaction they all gave was pure gold.

@spoogtastic 2 жыл бұрын

I loved everything about this episode but either having more back issues in this format or a new show that is talking about comic books and their context around their making would be INCREDIBLE!

@kcjc 2 жыл бұрын

* starts the video* Me: “Ahh, production value!”

@comixproviderftw_02 2 жыл бұрын

You’ve talked about The Clone Saga, now Onslaught (twice), now all that’s left is to do Age of Apocalypse. After that, you will all complete the unholy trinity of 90’s Marvel comics “Epics”.

@comixproviderftw_02 2 жыл бұрын

@@CrisisComics Ah yes. Before there was Hydra Cap, there was sleeper agent Tony Stark. Complete with teen Tony Stark.

@DanV900 2 жыл бұрын

Except the Age of Apocalypse is good.

@theangryholmesian4556 2 жыл бұрын

@@DanV900 Of the three mentioned it's the best but let's be honest it still suffers from 90s "extreme!!!!/edgy" cheesiness.

@xKillZone99 11 ай бұрын

onslaught saga was pretty cool, Age of apocalypse is arguably one of the better stories in comics and helped save marvel since everything but xmen were doing bad at the time

@metalliopleurodon 2 жыл бұрын

Only thing i know about Onslaught is that he was the final boss in Marvel vs Capcom. And I never bothered to learn anything else about him.

@mr.goblin6039 2 жыл бұрын

Back in the day, I thought he was made up for the game. lol

@Gator_Queen8188 2 жыл бұрын

Tbf thats one of the few times he's actually cool-ish

@TupocalypseShakur 2 жыл бұрын

@@Gator_Queen8188 he is literally just Magneto but bulky. That's why he looks coolish

@ItsOver9000Productions 2 жыл бұрын

Happy 400-ish?!! That was the best opening in back issues. Watching Ethan try not to break character was hilarious. Also Ethan should play Reed Richards.

@_PRIME_ 2 жыл бұрын

Next up, Age of Apocalypse😆👍 Also that intro tho, the closest we'll get to a "Physical With Ethan" look Also this is the first story done twice in this series

@SpiralSine6 2 жыл бұрын

Oh contraire, they talked about Spawn (and the Spawnomenon) twice.

@_PRIME_ 2 жыл бұрын

@@SpiralSine6 mmhhmm actually🖐😂

@joshbowman9481 2 жыл бұрын

I’m so happy to know getting physical with Ethan is still going strong

@ShawnWeeded510 2 жыл бұрын

This is technically the third time.

@rodrigovialerios 2 жыл бұрын

This is one of my favourite episodes. Sal took a storyline that most people don't care about anymore and turn It into a fascinating history lesson about the comic book industry.

@Igna_FM 2 жыл бұрын

That opening skit *chef's kiss* perfect, more please. It had that right amount of the early 2000's era of youtube skits

@Anynom 2 жыл бұрын

Cutting off the Waid Cap run was awful....but let's face it, the other books were a mess. We had the "Teen Tony" thing, the Avengers were rough, Thor was baffling and FF still recovering from the too-long "Reed is dead" arc. If nothing else, thanks to Heroes Reborn, we got revival of Busiek on Avengers and Iron Man, Jurgens' Thor and others so they did need something to change things, they just went too far.

@Freefall347 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Honestly, Jurgen's run on Thor is one of my favorites of all time. The Busiek run on Avengers was pretty amazing too. The Onslaught Saga was ridiculous, and even as it was being released, I thought it made no sense and was filled with ridiculous plot holes and contrivances, but I guess some house cleaning was in order at Marvel.

@sonnysumo8172 2 жыл бұрын

Great episode as always! I don’t know about anyone else but I’m always fascinated by how Sal describes the comic industry, it’s key players, and it’s state (like in the spawn episode for the creation of image, the maxx episode for context on Sam Keith’s ethos, and just random tidbits in different episodes). It provides valuable meta-context for why something as wild as Onslaught was allowed to be a thing. Congrats on the 400th, can’t wait to see what’s in store.

@enerstar 2 жыл бұрын

I'm 10 minutes in and Sal has said "no stranger to" a few times and I am disappointed no one has cut him off by yelling "love!" yet...

@Ninjamaster227- 2 жыл бұрын

First off, congratulations on reaching 400 episodes of Back-issues. Secondly, this is probably one of my favorite episodes you’ve ever done. As someone who went to business school for 4+ years, I’m tracking EVERYTHING your explaining, and it’s blowing my mind.

@bensneb360 2 жыл бұрын

You know you’ve been watching comic pop for a long time when they do an opening sketch and you get nostalgia for the early episodes lol Also Ethan did a pretty good job playing the Architect, he has really good comedic timing

@flywheelshyster 2 жыл бұрын

omg they produced deathstalker!? lol insert that clip of the goblin guy asking if the hero has anything to eat here "that's borderline experimental"

@jameshughes7946 2 жыл бұрын

Damn. Don't know how Sal got that clip from the new Matrix sequel.

@antdujar 2 жыл бұрын

Quite possibly my fave episode now due to the meta commentary that Onslaught represents to the current era of comic, publications and economy. Just solid. Also, that Franklin Richards theory, and that mephisto idea, damn, that’s a wild one.

@mathewgalopoulos2669 2 жыл бұрын

I love these “inside-baseball” type of episodes! Thank you Sal! To 400 more episodes of back issues!

@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038 2 жыл бұрын

It's like halfway through they sobered up from their bender and then came up with Impish Magneto jumping into Xavier

@ChristopherZubin 2 жыл бұрын

My favorite parts of Back Issues is the industry context Sal puts things into, Oh and the pantomime of Onslaught at the grocery store.

@DoubleO7-11 2 жыл бұрын

Ethan: I didn’t create Frogger, but I came up with the name for it… Can you believe they wanted to name it “Highway Crossing Frog”? …I know, it’s the lamest thing I’ve ever heard 😑

@flywheelshyster 2 жыл бұрын

Its like McDonalds...cause I'm LOVIN' IT!

@ocskope 2 жыл бұрын

I thoroughly enjoyed the discussion about the real life mechanics and the state of the comic industry that led to Onslaught. Really interesting stuff. And as usual Sal’s enthusiasm really shines through. Good on ya bud! Here’s to another 400!

@EmissionSpectrumBand 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats people! I don't usually comment on any video on this site, but I wanna take the oportunity to thank you for the hours of entertainment and insight that you bring every week. I've been watching since All Star B&R and have been a part of my weekly routine since, and I don't see any reason to change it. Sincerly, an Argentinian fan. Cheers

@ellibretoderaf7103 Жыл бұрын

I need more episodes of back issues like this where Sal turns into a teacher of nerdy history

@daelen.cclark Жыл бұрын

I’d love that.

@thebeewhobuzzes9467 2 жыл бұрын

“The problem is choice”. Am I Keanu in this or something?

@loyaltabk 2 жыл бұрын

I want a full video of Sal breaking down the comic book crash of the 90s

@R.J.Godzilla81 2 жыл бұрын

I’m now imagining Scott Loddel as the Monorail Guy from The Simpsons “Let me tell you bout a guy named Onslaught” “Who’s that” “Onslaught“ “WOW” “Onslaught you say” “ONSLAUGHT, ONSLAUGHT, ONSLAAAAAAUUUUUUGHT”

@flewis02 2 жыл бұрын

How was is so easy to sit through this whole discussion without once feeling bored or wanting to change videos? God tier conversations

@JakeTylenol 2 жыл бұрын

I know this was planned but I like the idea that Sal walked in on Ethan doing a bit and he just went with it

@spagredo 2 жыл бұрын

400 episodes and god knows how many years i’ve been watching yall, i’m glad that even now comicpop is as strong as ever!!!

@BBest1996 2 жыл бұрын

As a side note. I didn’t expect sal to go into the economics and distribution of the comic book industry. Definitely welcomed nonetheless.

@jasonbuchanan7042 2 жыл бұрын

Is that the thickest book in the ComicPop library? It's the type of book that Mama Spiders would tell spooky stories about to their thousand kids.

@saracohle 2 жыл бұрын

Stuttering into another concordantly was great. Vis-à-vis.

@galvatron3323 2 жыл бұрын

Hi 5 lady!

@cameronsetty2241 2 жыл бұрын

I cant wait for these flawless performances to get robbed at the Oscars this year.

@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038 2 жыл бұрын

So Onslaught is kind of a child of Prof X and Magneto. Which makes Ways of X more interesting since Legion, who is himself Charle's neglected son dealing with Onslaught.

@jesselion915 2 жыл бұрын

Oh my god. I just realized Xaviers whole plan was basically the Human Instrumentality Project from Evangelion

@oisinodwyer5985 2 жыл бұрын

Oh fuck.

@DRochon18 2 жыл бұрын

It has been *0* days since last Langoliers reference.

@JClassic305 2 жыл бұрын

One of the things I love about this show, is that they are constantly out doing themselves. So many times before I decreed pass episodes as their Magnum Opus... Episodes like Bendis Superman, HOX & POX, Coming of Galactus, Sword Of X... Each one out doing the one before... We again have a new Opus De Magnum... I have watched this episode at least 6 times, only came out a week ago. The skirt at the beginning deserves an Emmy nom. The industry breakdown is the greatest conversation of the post internet Era. Then the adventure through Onslaught itself was just the cherry on top of this caramel sundae in the form of a KZfaq vid. BRILLIANT!!!🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

@TevyaSmolka 2 жыл бұрын

I love that opening skit it was really funny

@thepanelbiter9915 2 жыл бұрын

You got my Like the second Ethan turned around in that chair.

@hyaena23 11 ай бұрын

I always come back to the first 30 min of this episode for the masterclass in 90's comics history. Love you guys ❤

@LT3 2 жыл бұрын

That intro was just fantastic, Ethan trying so hard not to break had me in stiches.

@nobodyexceptme7794 2 жыл бұрын

Someone needs to compile all 400 episode thumbnails into a time lapse for the hair styles alone

@TupocalypseShakur 2 жыл бұрын

All I remember about Onslaught is that he is a very cheap final boss

@vicpc55 2 жыл бұрын

So what I got from this is that Onslaught is a crappier Gendo Ikari

@chrisdaily2077 2 жыл бұрын

Did any 90s comic author read what they were writing and say, "Hey wait a second this is kind of silly."?

@TheCallofdutyghost 2 жыл бұрын

Probably, but the artist would reply with, "Yeah, but doesn't it look sick!"

@welch_inc6532 2 жыл бұрын

The industry hadn’t collapsed yet. They didn’t care cause it made bank

@daniellenihan9832 2 жыл бұрын

No...it was the 90's.

@theangryholmesian4556 2 жыл бұрын

All I can hear is Stan Lee roasting Rob Liefeld. And rightfully so.

@adamfreddo5703 2 жыл бұрын

30:45 I just had this image in my head of Charles Xavier losing it in the store like Jim Carrey in Me, Myself and Irene.

@joehen7351 2 жыл бұрын

The editing on that opening skit is LIT! Happy 400th Comicpop, and here's to 400 more!

@vaggelisbaousis1756 2 жыл бұрын

Ayyyy! Congrats lady and lads on 400 episodes! Here's to 400 more! Also, loved the opening skit.

@SkylightCiel 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely fantastic episode! So glad ya'll made it to 400 episodes. I adore these episodes where you talk about the real life history behind a book. Always super interesting to hear about, the Spawn episode that's similar to this is one of my all time favorites. Please do more dumb sketch content and implement it into your other shows. That was so funny.

@Martin_TheCollector 2 жыл бұрын

What a beautiful episode y'all. I've been watching since 2015 and pretty much every back issues episode is a gem. Can't believe how underrated your work is. Seriously.

@movethecarsal5026 2 жыл бұрын

Ethan rocks! That was amazing. More skits please you guys are awesome. Congrats on 400 episodes. We are so lucky to have everything you do!

@liamro2 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t know how Ethan kept a straight face 😂

@Vortexgames1000 2 жыл бұрын

God I'd kill to have an hour long episode going through the company history of Marvel (or any other group). God it's so fascinating

@GTMQ8 2 жыл бұрын

Ethan as the Architect from the Matrix Reloaded…outstanding performance!

@mr.raygunz929 2 жыл бұрын

400 episodes of Back Issues is seriously an amazing achievement! Congrats to everyone and thank you for all the passion and effort you put forth for us!

@codybryner2122 2 жыл бұрын

It’s honestly weird to hear marvel buying a company vs dc buying a company. Like how DC works it into the universe (Charleston, Wildstorm, Shazam) whereas marvel will just set it to the aside unless it’s a strong property like aliens and predators

@spensirmclife6549 2 жыл бұрын

They used Fu man chu in early Shang Chi

@smhfirebruh5630 2 жыл бұрын

Well, I think in the specific instance of Marvel buying Malibu it was just Marvel trying to buy a competitor to make Marvel's stocks go up and take out a competitor. While Dc always tries to use the characters they buy and then fold them in the universe after a Crisis

@Joshiaherox 2 жыл бұрын

I was just watching the old onslaught episode the other day and was thinking it’d be great to revisit it. Love the opening skit too! Keep being awesome guys!

@dariooben9 2 жыл бұрын

This episode was wild beginning to end. Also, I'm sorry, the Squadron Supreme book's ink has WHATTT?????

@smhfirebruh5630 2 жыл бұрын

I mean what author wouldn't want to imprint some part of themselves into their best works?

@windwind3170 2 жыл бұрын

So you're telling me that one guy due to his greed and stupidity crashed the entire comic book industry that still didn't recover to this day?

@JLRules 2 жыл бұрын

You don't need to worry about Onslaught now, or anything of Earth-616, because that continuity stopped being relevant with "One More Day". When Marvel - specifically Joe Quasada - destroyed the company's most important character. And because it's a shared timeline, everything _in_ that timeline afterwards didn't and doesn't matter.

@NovastarDoughnut Жыл бұрын

The history of Onslaught is a fucking roller-coaster and the behind the scenes of it is so much more interesting than the story itself. It ends up becoming a piece of metafiction about the flaws and failures of 90s comics. You have these huge massive scale epics that focus on these huge villains with big cool edgy designs and just how ultimately world endingly powerful but how That the Systems that brought about onslaught were also the systems that both on a meta and litteral sense could've ended the marvel universe as a whole. And how the heroes are fighting tooth and nail to if not able to save the marvel universe, do whatever they can with whatever they have left.

@mttylerdurden9 2 жыл бұрын

43:48 so what you're saying is that, 🎶IT WAS AGATHA ALL ALONG 🎶 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@jimothie64 2 жыл бұрын

I’m so glad these type of intros have been brought back. Absolutely love the effort you guys put into episodes. Keep up the spectacular work guys.

@ky417787 2 жыл бұрын

Onslaught was my first backissues! Now its also my 400th! I love it. Thanks guys for all the joy you bring to the POPulation.

@steviemacc2745 2 жыл бұрын

Phil Collins voice: "I been waiting for this moment..... for all my liiiiiiifffeee oh lord"💯🤣👏🏾

@Mattkeyz1 2 жыл бұрын

Happy 400!!! Love the matrix intro and can't wait for 500!

@bigfest6498 2 жыл бұрын

Every time Sal does Bishop makes me die laughing. I pray one day I could hear him impersonate Leatherneck from TMNT.

@ryanmiller6103 2 жыл бұрын

I love hearing history lessons of the comic book industry. Happy 400 episodes! Here's to 400 more!

@maciekwilkosz6377 2 жыл бұрын

Bishop played a role in "Onslaught". When Onslaught revealed himself and X-Men dumped him he tried to kill them. Bishop saved them absorbing energy blast that was ment to kill them. In a sense he did prevent his future from taking place.

@INDIG0MAR Жыл бұрын

I put this episode on the background while doing chores and had to stop doing them just to focus on what Sal was saying. Incredible industry breakdown.

@tommykelso3592 2 жыл бұрын

I love the little skit in the beginning we need more like this

@Vidiocity92 2 жыл бұрын

Sal talking comics history is an amazing show in itself, just awesome

@torinforst 2 жыл бұрын

This episode is amazing! I've been hoping you would do Onslaught for years, and it's everything I ever hoped for. Some absolutely fantastic reactions from Tiffany starting at about the hour mark. I was sold at the opening sketch. Sorry you had to do this so may times over, but as the saying goes, third time's the charm. Eagerly awaiting Age of Apocalypse

@colegerlach6721 2 жыл бұрын

Happy 400ish episodes of Back Issues and here’s to at least 400 more! I’ll say one thing for Onslaught, he is one cool image

@mitchellregan21 2 жыл бұрын

I was so pleasantly surprised by that opening.

@MrAmateurNerd 2 жыл бұрын

Ethan was FANTASTIC in that opening

@pptemplar5840 2 жыл бұрын

Sal ranting is the real reason I watch this show.

@drakkenmensch 2 жыл бұрын

Every time you flavor a comment with "it's happening... *over there* ..." my mind immediately completes that statement with Linkara's "... and *over there* must *take care of itself.* "