The things that Sonos doesn't dare tell you (but I will)

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I cover (or is it uncover?) details of the Sonos Sub Mini that you might not already know. So find out more before you place your pre-order. Actually, these information are all in plain sight. But I will analyse it and share its significance, and what it really means to you.
*** Rob Hargraves pointed out that I said at the 10:53 mark, "the sub mini is the first sub that Sonos has produced that is NOT sealed". I meant to say that the Sub mini is the first sub that Sonos has produced that is SEALED.
Big thanks to Rob for pointing it out and everyone please take note!
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@zebrapleco7895 Жыл бұрын

I love your content. Thank you for taking the time to be so thorough and informative in all of your videos, the b-roll footage is excellent as well. Very professionally done.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks! I thought the B roll could be better. My handling of a camera outside the studio really sucks. :)

@LENKRAD Жыл бұрын

Your channel is just pure gold in terms of home theater and music setups. Thank you very much!

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks!

@mrcaggiari Жыл бұрын

You are doing a great job. This is the best and clearest video so far. Respect bro!!

@AmerDababneh7 Жыл бұрын

This is my first time coming across your videos. I love the details you provided. Good job!

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thanks for putting your appreciation down in writing!

@johnamarante9888 Жыл бұрын

I find your videos very informative. I’m new with sonos and learning a lot from you. Thank you for your service.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

You are most welcome John.

@myatix1 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting Peter... Thanks for sharing! Very informative as always!

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thank you Alan!

@emeivi5564 Жыл бұрын

Excellent analysis Peter! Can’t wait to get one for my setup.

@jeffvanhorn1030 Жыл бұрын

Pre ordered it yesterday! Can’t wait to hear it now after this video!! Thanks Peter!!

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

@garyseifert9677 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Peter!! Looking forward to the comparison video!!

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Everyday is one day closer!

@ajblendz7128 Жыл бұрын

Your videos are amazing and very informative. No need to reassure us..just keep creating these videos.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I will! Thanks for the feedback!

@Shooter_D6 Жыл бұрын

I love you Peter! Thank you so much for all your research and advice

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your support!

@TheVangMan Жыл бұрын

Great points! Fantastic work 🔥

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thank you for appreciating!

@filb911 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks Peter. Can't wait for the Sub mini review.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

I am having sleepless nights waiting for it too! :)

@adamg.1845 Жыл бұрын

Do you have a time frame for review?

@felixwilliams6562 Жыл бұрын

Another outstanding video Peter .. thank you so much

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

You are so very welcome!

@esperla123 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video ! I'll be waiting for the analysis when you got the Sub Mini.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your support! That will be soon!

@brianhart6978 Жыл бұрын

Peter, your videos, and your presentation style are both outstanding. Thank you sincerely for the work you do. This fairly new subscriber will be contributing to your "coffee fund."

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU BRIAN!

@MagnoliaED Жыл бұрын

Good examination of the specifications. I'd add that while the surface area of the Sub Mini's drivers compared with the Sub, we must also expect the excursion to be lower on the Sub Mini and also for it to have a lower powered amplifier based on the selling price. So, total output is not only a function of cone area.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

I don't have a close up shot of the Sub mini in action, but if I show you a video, you can actually, just maybe, glimpse that the cone excursion is something of a small wonder... Let's see about that. :) Can't wait to test out for sure!

@bjorngrafstrom Жыл бұрын

Very informative, thank you! More and more seems to push me in the Mini direction.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

I am quite smitten with the sub mini! And I definitely want a sealed sub option.

@atanasioivanov5232 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the very interesting informations. Can‘t wait to pair it with my Arc. I love the round design and the smaller size !😊

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Yeah, sound aside, it is a great form factor.

@pedrorodrigues7047 Жыл бұрын

Excelent video Peter, thanks. Curious to see how Sub mini’s larger drivers will perform against Gen 3’s smaller drivers but with more space and ports. Looking forward for your tests as always 😊

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Good question and those are the points I am wondering to myself.

@param5756 Жыл бұрын

fantastic video and great details, as always Peter. As soon as I heard about the sub mini.. I thought peter is going to compare the volume and driver area of the sub gen 3 and the mini.. and Lo and behold! I've already checked the weight of my sub gen 3 from the previous videos and it checks out. :)

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Cool! Thanks for your support all along!

@RolandoNispiros Жыл бұрын

Awesome info and comparison Pete. I just got my mini today and so far sounds great. I’ll give it awhile to break-in.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

It sounded superb right out of the box! My own "non-review" unit came too and I managed to squeeze some time to make a full review of that with the Beam Gen 2 and One setup, all new!

@RolandoNispiros Жыл бұрын

@Peter Pee yes I am very happy with my set up of Sonos One, Beam 2, and now Mini Sub. So clean and crisp for our medium sized living room.

@tyson00001 Жыл бұрын

very detailed vid! keep up the work! you've my sub

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub there!

@girian Жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter for another great video. I love the setup of your videos and the depth of information you share. You definitely pulled me into the Sonos eco system ;)

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Damn, I really need to apply for the job of a Sonos salesman.

@gledsonr30 5 ай бұрын

I don't know if the Sonos sub mini is inferior to its gen 3, but I can say that I have the sub mini connected to my arc, positioned next to my sofa and it even makes the sofa vibrate during explosion scenes. very good and I don't regret buying it. It has fantastic value for money. I bought mine for $343.00 during the year-end holidays. I even leave mine set at -1 because I live in an apartment and it even vibrates the furniture inside the room.

@Flo_W. Жыл бұрын

I‘m looking forward to see you do the frequency response sweeps of the mini and compare it to the gen 3 as well as the overall sound of both compared! Maybe the future best setup will be with one of each subs to combine their strengths and maybe cancel out some weaknesses?! 🤔 I would be absolutely thrilled if you tried a mixed bass setup for one of your future videos. Greetings from Austria and as always: great content, keep it up!!!

@tavey Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the great information you give. Question, I have a Gen 3 can I add the mini to be a 2nd sub to my system? Also will you be doing a video on the latest update 4.20??

@kyenstravels Жыл бұрын

HI Peter, I have always enjoyed your detailed and easy to understand videos but am not sure why you need to spend most of the video justifying why your channel is different! It’s rather cringey to keep hearing le. Believe in your channel approach and strength! Discerning viewers (like me hehe ) can easily tell without any scientific tests. LOL.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Oops! Ok, feedback taken. :) Thanks for sharing and appreciating!

@RaviJohnR Жыл бұрын

100% agree. Peter, you have a niche of your own and your content speaks for itself. By over-pitching yourself you are diluting your own messaging.

@Chimera_Photography Жыл бұрын

It’s for new subscribers. Not everything is about you 😂

@DavidSusiloUnscripted Жыл бұрын

Agree!! 3 minutes of self promotion is very cringe indeed.

@FXh0mer Жыл бұрын

I was thinking of commenting the exact same thing but didn't want to come across as rude. The truth is every time I watch these reviews, I automatically think "Wow this is some in-depth stuff, that no other reviewer does". I can safely assume that most of Peters viewers think the same way too, so it doesn't need to be mentioned tbh. Glad someone mentioned it. Even more respect to Peter for taking it in the right spirit! Keep up the awesome work!

@chrisnewbury9071 Жыл бұрын

Nice work. It will be really interesting to know that amplifier output draw comparison between the 2 subs. Having the air compression behind the mini with the larger driver area...

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Spot on Chris... Questions in my head...

@pyroken2417 Жыл бұрын

Well done!

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thanks Pyro!

@StBernardFan Жыл бұрын

Great video again! Thank you! Going to weigh my Sub Gen3 soon…

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thanks Keith!

@wilsonzhang4952 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your detail video. I just got a two questions. I recently got the Arc and want to add rear speaker. Would the seal speaker a better choice like Sonos ones SL or the port speakers like the Ikea frames. Leaning toward the frame to save space but if the difference is big then I will go with the ones SL. Thank you

@Don-bc5pd Жыл бұрын

Great vid Peter

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

I loved this video too!

@1dahsherif Жыл бұрын

Thank you Peter, Informative & your enthusiasm & attention to detail is appreciated. Can't wait to hear your future forensic analysis between the Sonos Gen 3 & The Sub mini, or in real terms ; is smaller Bigger, or is Sonos blinding us with Science. Btw: have they fixed the Bass problem on the Gen 3 yet? 😊

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Not yet David... On the one hand I really need them to fix it... On the other hand... I need a break from making these videos! :D haha.

@6058jeremysmith Жыл бұрын

Peter you are extremely smart and very thorough in your videos

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Aiyoh, shy la. Thank you!

@povictor Жыл бұрын

Waited more 5 years and I’m going to buy it. I don’t care what they say it’s good to pair with. It will be good for the Arc and Beam and everything in the line.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Haha... spoken like a true wireless audiophile!

@alexbonamy7511 Жыл бұрын

Love it !!!

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@PHX9494 Жыл бұрын

can’t wait for a comparison

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

I can’t wait too!

@tyson00001 Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Woohoo! Thanks for this!

@fraktalfox Жыл бұрын

Peter my man, you scienced the shit out of the subs and slapped some math like a boss 🔥

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Haha, obsession can drive strange behaviour.

@hadouken2123 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info regarding cone surface area. I am very curious about how the mini will sound in the end. It reminds me a bit of the SVS SB3000 micro Subwoofer which I always found awesome…!

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Yes! You are right! I have the SVS SB3000 micro and I really REALLY want to pitch the two of them together!

@kevanray Жыл бұрын

I want to see this battle! This would be such a wonderful study.

@hadouken2123 Жыл бұрын

@@PeterPee whaaaat XD

@BjarneQwinten Жыл бұрын

Peter, without your channal we were lost 😍😍😍. Bjarne from Denmark Europe

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Wow that's high praise! Thank you!

@gregw1989 Жыл бұрын

great content

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thanks GW!

@xxcessus Жыл бұрын

I can see that Sonos is attempting to bring more into its eco system with the sub mini and I applaud them for this. I feel with the beam in a average sized room the sub mini will be adequate and performance will be good enough for the vast majority of users. The sub gen 3 though will definitely in my opinion be better for those action movies where there are explosions and action scenes, especially in a larger room. I currently have the arc and two SL’s for rear speakers and feel that given the size of my room the sub mini will suffice, if only to release more from the arc. Having said that I do feel the sub gen 3 is the better buy for the long term.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

We'll see how it goes in the long run. Most Sonos products do retain value quite well. Actually, the champ of value retention is the Sonos One!

@bennettfoley6415 Жыл бұрын

I've held off on buying the sub gen 3 because of the cost and the concern of disturbing my neighbors below. Excited to see how the sub mini performs because I really want the mini so that my arc will not have to perform all the bass itself.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

And a sealed sub might actually do that trick for you... I seriously think so.

@SkyRL25 Жыл бұрын

You should have got the beam also 😂

@vnorrant Жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, Thks for sharing some details, specially the surface cone. I guess more surface means more power to move them. I would be curious to know the power of the amplifiers.. Another point you did not mentioned: the Mini is not meant to be laid on his side! Stand up only! Contrary to the Sub that can be set in both positions …

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Huh! I did overlook that! You are absolutely right!

@bellmountaincastle Жыл бұрын

I have the Sub Mini now for already 3 days and I can confirm that the Sub Mini ist an excellent sub for Music and for Moves. I use it in my 40 M2 Living Room togehter with the sonos arc an two One and I#m very happy with the performance. The sub mini boosts the bass of the whole system and takes the bass work away from the arc and improves the clarity and the sound of the arc.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

That’s fantastic. Glad to hear that the sub mini is performing even in such a large space.

@chips84 Жыл бұрын

@@PeterPee i can confirm. Ir works good with sub mini and arc.

@rannzen1 Жыл бұрын

Danke!

@PeterPee 11 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@duranv2117 Жыл бұрын

Hi Peter. Thanks for the great video. Can the sub mini be added as a second sub in a system that already has a gen 3 sub?

@_monoaural1993 Жыл бұрын

No, it can't. Not even 2 Sub Mini can be paired. But 2 Gen. 3 instead can be paired. Crazy

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thanks for helping with that question!

@duranv2117 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the response. Was really hoping they could. It might better balance the bass profile to get the best of both music and movie bass performance 😢

@_monoaural1993 Жыл бұрын

@@duranv2117 I'm pretty sure, it has to do avoiding problems by Not mixing ported with sealed devices...

@kjw7228 Жыл бұрын

Great info as always,, thank you. I just wanted to add , the mini may have a driver cone surface advantage, but without comparing the max end to end linear excursion of the drivers on both units, it may not yeild any meaningful advantages

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Great point! Because the excursion of a ported sub usually ends up to be higher. There is less pressure to fight in a open ported design!

@sl9902 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the info , you definitely know sonos. I watched the video but wasn't sure weather or not the sub mini is sealed o right not. Is the sub mini actually Sealed?

@philipchin9043 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video Peter! I learned quite a bit from this video especially in the great details on Sonos tech! I find Sonos Sub mini is overpriced in HK and Singapore by a big margin but I was unable to get a good explanation from the distributor in HK! I have noticed that most retail prices for Sonos products when compared with US Retail prices was around 20% premium in HK, a margin I am willing to pay for considering HK is a smaller market. However, Sonos sub mini are priced at 40% premium after tax and duties (which is 0% in HK) are applied in the aforementioned 2 locations. I wonder if you may have an explanation on why such jump in price just for Sub Mini? BTW, fyi, Singapore @S$869 = US$616 , is also under the similar price premium over US/UK/Australia, i.e. US @US$429/UK @£429/Australia @$699. The premium is enough to cover buying from the US direct and ship over with freight. The worse is that it makes me think twice if I should continue to invest in Sonos. The concern I have is that the huge price premium may reduce Sonos' market share here in HK and drive the distributor to struggle which may risk Sonos supporters without support!

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

The pricing in HK and SG is indeed marked up quite a bit unfortunately.

@Mrkas09 Жыл бұрын

I have Arc - do you think new Sub mini would pair well since the soundbar is not a sealed design and doesn't it really matter or play a significant role compared to pairing Arc with last gen sub vs new sub mini?

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

The Arc is a sealed design. But really, I think it doesn't matter that much. I think I might have not been super clear in my video but the difference will be small when it comes to design consideration.

@_monoaural1993 Жыл бұрын

Nice review. Thanks a Ton. One Thing o don't get. How is the Sub Mini compensating the Fact, that it is sealed ?

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

We are not going deep into sub design. Sealed subs usually require a slightly more powerful amp than an equivalent ported sub if you want the same level of output. But ported subs require amps with high damping factor to STOP the cone when the bass notes stop else they end up sounding flabby and sloppy. At this point, we don't have much other info cos we haven't tested it yet.

@enrell Жыл бұрын

Hi Peter. I have been waiting for this Sub Mini to complete my collection , however i got more confused as i watched your videos. I have a Beam Gen 1 with One SL for surround. I am using them to watch KZfaq and movies. Based on your research, the Sub Gen 3 would be a better choice for me as you mentioned its good for movies. Should I go for the Sub Gen 3 instead considering my requirement and also from pricing-point, it is about $200 difference to the Sub Mini. Your advice is very much appreciated. Thank you !!

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

I have not heard the sub gen 3 and sub mini together at the same time before. I was just commenting based on use case. If you are really into movies, a ported sub would be great. But it’ll be best if you wait for my review. When I have a chance to test both subs side by side.

@enrell Жыл бұрын

@@PeterPee Thank you for the reply. Will wait for your review. Have a good weekend!!

@darwinortiz7 Жыл бұрын

I have the bean (Gen 2) and a par of SL. This is exactly what was missing from my current setup. I did the preorder, I hope I did not make a mistake

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

I think you might find this to be the second best decision after buying the beam.

@bill2614 6 ай бұрын

I have the mini. Its more than sufficient for my living room. It measures 16 ft x 42 ft. At times to much base and I have to turn it down. I think for the average household it is more than adequate for music and movies. I'm quite impressed with it. I have it hooked up with the arc. Excellent results. Thanks for your informative reviews

@daves7104 Жыл бұрын

This was great, thanks mate! Would you suggest the mini would be good enough for a smaller lounge room where music is more my poison rather than action movies. I'm a musician and love a variety of many types of music.. so thinking to add a sub to my arc. Any response is greatly appreciated 👍🏻

@epade Жыл бұрын

Hello Peter, do you mind sharing where to buy your wall absorbing panels? they look great, thanks

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

I bought it off a local seller on a marketplace called Carousell. But he is not a dealer and only has a few pieces. I’m still looking for more!

@epade Жыл бұрын

@@PeterPee thanks man

@veselinva Жыл бұрын

Hope we will be able to connect 2 sub minis in the future!

@GayleGrantDocGrant 3 ай бұрын

Hi Peter, love your reviews..do you have one for best setup specs using an Arc, 2 Fives and a Sub Gen 3? Thanks!!

@mauricioharker5163 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter... when finishing the embargo for new analisis about Sonos sub mini?

@kamilkotlar2670 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. I'm wondering if it's worth it to pair Sub Mini with my Beam + Bookshelfs setup (because of some discounts, the Sub Mini is actually as pricy as my whole current setup in my country) - and if yes, how to convince my wife it's worth it? :D

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Bring her to the store and ask for a Beam test, with and without the sub, and play your wedding song.

@kamilkotlar2670 Жыл бұрын

@@PeterPee Amazing idea! But haven't seen Sonos in any showroom in Czechia, yet.... people here are used to stick with TV speakers and if they buy a sound system, it's some entry-level Samsung/Sony/LG/TCL soundbar.

@nevenmiskulin Жыл бұрын

Not happy Peter! If this performs better than my Gen 2 i will freak out😀

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Haha. I actually… have that same concern….

@kushaljain9401 Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thank you Jain!

@Gobin4th Жыл бұрын

Will mini perform better for music's with Arc + one sl as surround?

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Not sure yet. I need to test it to know.

@Thegorgonit Жыл бұрын

Best of the best Peter! Amazing video as Always! When will you get your hands on the sub mini? After the release?

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

I will get it before the public release! It gives me a bit of time for the testing and making the video to share!

@domdp Жыл бұрын

I recall alot of the beam gen 2 vs Arc reviews early on where like “it’s an Arc killer!” now a year later we know it’s no competition - apples to oranges just like this sub mini apples to oranges to the sub gen 3

@hadouken2123 Жыл бұрын

Well I would not call the beam 2 an arc killer but it is a nice little soundbar that sounds surprisingly well with music in my opinion. Regarding music, even better than the arc but that is my personal opinion.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I guess that is part of the initial hubris surrounding a new product launch. Let's really test this new sub and see how it performs!

@domdp Жыл бұрын

@@PeterPee yes sir!

@haziqazlin8152 Жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, as a fellow singaporean, im sure you’re aware of the size of the living room of a bto 4-room HDB. In your own opinion, do you think the sub gen 3 kinda “overkill” in regards to the small size of the living room? Given the square feet of the living room is relatively small, i do think the sub mini would suffice the entire living room. Weighing options now 😅

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

There you go! The review is out! The sub mini might actually suffice for your case! New 4 room flats built within the last 10-15 years no problem for the sub mini.

@Jannik-K Жыл бұрын

Hey Peter, great video. To collect some data :) My Sub Gen 3 weighs also 13kg

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this info!

@garydavies2061 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Peter, in a future review can you set up with a Arc to see the result please.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Definitely on my todo list!

@hollas5948 Жыл бұрын

Peter: My Gen 3 Sub weighed in @ 29.2 lb. FYI.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the help! Yeah. That confirms what I measured too.

@josephralphlorenz Жыл бұрын

Ok so the sub mini has more surface area. I would like to know what the excursion of each driver is compared to the gen 3. Do you have any information about driver excursion for both models?

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

No. This is not publicly announced information. I made a video on that before...Let me find it.

@brycebettencourt2078 Жыл бұрын

Does anyone know when the embargo is up?

@fazoole3379 Жыл бұрын

Mr. pee, if I buy the sub mini to add to my arc do I have to retune it with true play again ? Thank u

@soguy Жыл бұрын

I have Arc and two One SLs. Do you think it is worth considering adding the Sub Mini? Mostly for music...

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

I actually think it's worth even getting the Sub Gen 3, the bigger one. I am a big proponent of subwoofers so....

@taylorcampbell985 Жыл бұрын

Hey did you happen to review Sonos 14.15 update? Did they bring back the sub volume?

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

I have not gotten round to that but no, it won't have fixed the sub volume with trueplay. The current workaround fix is just to turn off Trueplay for the moment.

@m0r0ntia Жыл бұрын

Very Interesting! Lee Stelling

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thanks Lee!

@Yowzoe Жыл бұрын

Hey, newbie question here. Just getting into SONOS and I have two Roam portables which I use mostly in my kitchen. What is the technical hurdle to pairing them with a Sub Mini?

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

You can't. Sonos doesn't allow pairing any sub with the portables including roam and move.

@bobbymoody7 Жыл бұрын

Just wish you can add more than one with the mini

@kjw7228 Жыл бұрын

Peter. I just weighed mine. G2 sub is 32.6lb , G3 is 29.0

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Fantastic! Thanks for your help! And so you have both! :)

@kjw7228 Жыл бұрын

@@PeterPee yes. Believe it or not I have one of each!

@inukaka3741 Жыл бұрын

I weighted my Sub Gen1. Yes. Gen 1. It is 14.80kg. Hope this help

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Hey that’s cool! Nice cos I never had a gen 1 to weigh before!

@wnorful Жыл бұрын

Slightly off topic, but looking for the 14.15 update review? I have an arc with sl surrounds and gen 3 sub, sound seems to be very well balanced.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Is your trueplay turned off? Actually, you know what, sound is a strange thing... we might have all gotten used to it!? Gasp!

@RyanMok-mh9nk Жыл бұрын

Hi Peter If i use ARC+sub mini for movie is it good ?

@arniesilverberg764 Жыл бұрын

Which side of my mortar board should I place the tassel??

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Haha... Arnie, all of us on this channel are graduated from Sonos' rabbit hole, and then some. So maybe wear it on both sides now.

@arniesilverberg764 Жыл бұрын

@@PeterPee 20 products purchased or gifted to date. I am now approaching the center of the earth. Wifie does not wish to hear the word SONOS any longer.

@arthurbell9389 Жыл бұрын

It will be interesting to see how well it performs, generally a sealed cabinet is able to get lower bass freq than a ported cabinet, if it has a combined woofer size of 12" I'm not that surprised they say it can get to 25hz however I think it will have huge drop off at that frequency due to having such a small enclosure. To get down to a true sustained 20hz at high spl levels takes a very large enclosure and at least a 12"+ woofer and 100-300w+ power design, I think the cheapest 20hz sub I can think of is the yamaha sw300 (I'm sure there's cheaper unknown branded ones but the yammy is £300ish). This is how I'd compare subs if it's similar price but obviously the sonos tax is real :)

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Oh yes, the Sonos tax is real... but that's also because of the software... that adds to the value that they are expecting consumers to pay for.

@arthurbell9389 Жыл бұрын

@@PeterPee I'm not a hater of sonos products I do really Like some of them but with the full end arc setup it doesn't seem worth it compared to the other brands high end units that come with included 2.2 rears and subwoofers. I think being able to add two subs is good and something you can't generally do on the other brands but when you add it all up you could have purchased a serious separate system that would blow it to pieces. I guess you'd be looking at 2000-3000£$€ for the arc, the large sub and two rears. And they don't have atmos rears yet. (although I hear possibly soon might) if they add atmos rears and overhead atmos speakers then it would justify the price a bit more for the unique options at least.

@Dando-1983 Жыл бұрын

I think the Sub mini will be amazing, get bass in a family home without all the complaints of being over the top.. I think it will be great with the BeamGen2. Looking forward to your review videos

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

I am dying to try it out!

@Dando-1983 Жыл бұрын

@@PeterPee can’t wait until you do and your in depth analysis.. graphs etc.. you’ll get me excited for the sub mini I’m sure ^__^=

@kwongwing110 Жыл бұрын

Hello, I’m looking for Sonos, I’m quite interesting on sub mini, but is it perfect for arc or beam? Thank you

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

I would guess it's perfect for the Beam. Arc, I need to test it out but I am sure it will sound better with any sub!

@vincentbeernaert1163 Жыл бұрын

Hi Peter which one should go better with the playbar. The sub gen 3 or the sub mini?

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Depends on room size. Big room go for sub gen 3. Smaller than 250 SQ feet probably good with sub mini.

@vincentbeernaert1163 Жыл бұрын

@@PeterPee thanks a lot I

@dwight33 Жыл бұрын

Peter, will I be able to pair with an existing Sub3??

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

No cannot.

@93ChayZ 3 ай бұрын

I found the sub mini perfect to pair with our BEAM Gen2+Era100’s for our master bedroom system. It’s perfect for our tv shows.

@TemujinScott80 Жыл бұрын

I really believe we will be impressed with the mini’s performance

@RichyDutchfly Жыл бұрын

Thanks ! Very informative! When is the embargo off and can we expect you to speak “freely” 😁 ?

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Soon! Actually I am noob in this. I don’t even know if I am supposed to talk about the embargo! Haha.

@RichyDutchfly Жыл бұрын

@@PeterPee thanks! Well I guess telling when the embargo date ends isn’t a forbidden thing 😂 but hey… I don’t know the Sonos rules ! Really looking forward to it.

@opulencehub Жыл бұрын

i wish you would do these detailed videos with other Soundbar brands but i know that you dont have the budget even tho youre channel is the most precised Soundbar reviews i have ever seen you dont have that much views i wish u would have the views that u deserve.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Thanks Labi, that gives me some confidence that at least my videos are helpful even if not many people are watching them. So it at least helps those who are!

@tuareg67 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Peter! Impatient to know opinion, Peter, new firmware 14.15 😜

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Actually haven’t gotten around to 14.15 yet but apparently it’s either to sort out the sub mini pairing or the iOS 16.0 launch.

@jassoncurtis3009 Жыл бұрын

what type is the sonos playbar?

@patricktan5408 Жыл бұрын

Hi Peter. This may sound unnecessary but do you have info of the packaging dimension of the sub mini?

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

No I don't have the exact... I am recalling from a mental image.... About 40cm high, and 28cm x 28cm base... 2 handle cutouts by the sides near the top...

@patricktan5408 Жыл бұрын

@@PeterPee thanks for the info.

@Laptopdog78 Жыл бұрын

Great content Peter. I am just disappointed that you said the mini could be more of a music sub, rather than a movie sub, because if i did get the mini, it would be mainly for movies………hope your reviews will tell a different story.

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

These are just speculatory at the moment, based on whatever info is out there. And yes, it could change when I test it. And also note the the difference in theory may not translate to difference in actual use.

@malifacto Жыл бұрын

So, if there is more area but it’s sealed vs the sub does that mean they will probably sound similar?

@PeterPee Жыл бұрын

Hard to tell... Cos we don't know the amplification power as of now. And sealed vs ported sounds very different depending on many factors, including the port size and design.

@malifacto Жыл бұрын

Can you do a ported vs sealed sub video at some point unless you’ve already done such a video..