The Time a NASCAR Team Used DRS! | The Story of the Harry Gant Powered Spoiler!

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F1 cars are known for using DRS (drag reduction system(s)) in certain zones on track to aid in overtaking, but did you know that a NASCAR team built a working DRS system in 1992? In this video, we take a break from today’s NASCAR Cup Series stars like Kyle Busch, Joey Logano, and Ross Chastain and uncover one of the most daring cheats in NASCAR history. Andy Petree and Dean Jones (who were both featured on the Dale Jr. Download) worked together to build an electronically controlled spoiler for Harry Gant’s car for the Daytona 500! While they weren't they only ones with an adjustable spoiler (Jimmy Spencer and Jimmy Means' cars had them too that weekend), theirs was one of the more complex designs in the field. Did it work? How did Harry finish? Did they get caught? Watch the video to find out!
00:00 Intro
00:30 Setting The Stage for the 1992 500
01:42 Realization of the Powered Spoiler
02:55 How it Worked
04:16 Daytona Qualifying
05:10 Busted! (For Something Else)
05:32 How it All Ended
06:28 Outro
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@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Edit #2: As some of you have pointed out, I mixed up the Busch Clash with the Twin 125s. That was an honest error on my part, my apologies. To those of you commenting about the Stapleton42 video on Jimmy Means: I had this video already made before that one was uploaded and didn't see it until a couple days ago. The spoiler he showed off and says he "never got caught" for is apparently a different design than the "springy" one I talk about in this video. There's a newspaper article from 1992 that talks about him getting caught for the "springy" one linked in my sources in the description. If you haven't already, check out Andy Petree and Dean Jones' interviews on the Dale Jr. Download (also linked in the description) Really interesting stuff! Thanks for watching!

@1PADRAIG Жыл бұрын

Take a look at Stapleton42 video with Jimmy Means he build one with brake cylinder

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

@@1PADRAIG I actually just saw that one yesterday. That was a great video! Thanks for watching!

@rickyrudd28texacohavolinef2 Жыл бұрын

¿Pat, this video? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJ5-qNGaqLzRmH0.html

@jeffjames4064 Жыл бұрын

Yes I know cheating is wrong. But kudos to those guys for upholding the spirit of NASCAR.

@willstikken5619 Жыл бұрын

It is only cheating if the rules explicitly say you can't do it AND you get caught breaking the rules...

@scootergeorge7089 Жыл бұрын

@@willstikken5619 "Smokey" Yunick could not have said that any better. Kudos!

@SonicBoone56 Жыл бұрын

Meh, finding loopholes in motorsports is hardly what I'd call cheating. It's just exploiting the rules. A lot different than other sports.

@NeurodivergentSuperiority Жыл бұрын

@@SonicBoone56 Exactly, there is a big diffrence between cheating and finding loopholes

@NeurodivergentSuperiority Жыл бұрын

@@willstikken5619 And this makes the diffrence between a loophole and a cheat

@danfarris135 Жыл бұрын

It would be a great read if someone would be able to put all the cheating stories into one book. I have been following Nascar since the early 70’s and am still amazed at some of the stories coming to light. That is the innovation that kept Nascar moving forward. Keep the stories coming.

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

I would love that! Thanks for watching!

@SonicBoone56 Жыл бұрын

It makes sense that a series that intentionally limits cars to being a dinosaur in technology (up until just recently) would have tons of people finding ways to incorporate better tech into it. F1 had loophole exploits too, but it just wasn't as ridiculous. Probably because of the entirely different structure of the series. I think a book about exploits in racing as a whole would be worthy of a book.

@jacekatalakis8316 Жыл бұрын

The reason it wasn't discovered that Gant shot by with essentially a flat spoiler, was that Gary Nelson was turned around checking something and had his back to the track, so didn't see it I never knew about the car being too low, only the deck lid part, but Leo Jackson gave the okay after being told you know the cheat is in there, you know something is off with the car, if you can't find it, they won't find it so they ran it. I forget if it was Andy Petreee or Harry who told that story but that's the part that sticks out to me. Jimmy Means is on the Scene Vault pocast with a lot more cheating stories, all of which are just as good. Never knew the Miller team tried the pins either, it makes me wonder about how many others Gary Nelson found out that weekend. Also for a tweaked spoiler, see Mike Skinner in the Truck race at Daytona when when he won with half the spoiler either laying back or pushed forward, I forget which.

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

I'll have to check out that podcast with Jimmy Means, sounds really interesting! Thanks for watching!

@ryansheehan9462 Жыл бұрын

The Daytona truck win was Michael Waltrip not Mike Skinner

@jacekatalakis8316 Жыл бұрын

@@ryansheehan9462 Duh, not sure why I thought Skinner

@darrellgrant7615 Жыл бұрын

Harry Gant and that Skoal Bandit car was one of my all time favorites as a kid. Couldn’t wait to get old enough to chew some Skoal 😂

@Big88Country Жыл бұрын

In NASCAR, it's not cheating if ya don't get caught! Also, if ya do get caught it's known as an engineering mistake.

@MM126.90 11 ай бұрын

Sorry, I accidentally put a hydraulic spoiler on the car with mislabeled controls in the radio box. My bad.

@Big88Country 11 ай бұрын

@@MM126.90 HAHAHA!! Yeah man!!

@beantaz3862 Жыл бұрын

I think the biggest risk he took was the fact he stole it off his wife's car.

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

🤣 You're probably right!

@Hybris51129 Жыл бұрын

Goes to show that when you start down this path *every* detail has to survive being checked. They got the looks down but not the angle. I will say the copper lowering rings were surprising though.

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Finding out about those really surprised me too! Thanks for watching!

@f87115 Жыл бұрын

Yes amazing, give a convict long enough and it can come up with anything

@immikeurnot Жыл бұрын

A lot of teams did this in NASCAR. Some did it through moveable spoilers, and others did it through forcing the entire end of the car lower. There's an interview with a former privateer who talks about how he'd rigged a hydraulically lowered spoiler.

@mrbigw100 Жыл бұрын

Another good one was a team had 400pounds of buckshot in there chassis so it would pass weight but when they went out on the track a door would open up and release the buckshot pellets out making the car lighter and because of the banked track the pellets would roll down to the bottom of the track and the nascar officials suspected something because they kept finding pellets on the tracks but they never could find anything because the door to release the pellets was in the jack hole and when they jacked the car up the jack would cover the door up 😂 this is a video of dale jr saying this story kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q7J-h5uQv9HbkXk.html this is another good video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nsyhapBiyra7XYE.html of a lot of ways they also cheated

@bradkroboth5490 Жыл бұрын

Sounds like DW n Jr Johnson

@RezaMaulanaRezaMaulana98 Жыл бұрын

This is a great video and this brings back memories of when half of Michael Waltrip's wing brace broke in half in the 2011 Daytona Truck race, resulting in him effectively having half of a DRS on his Truck. I didn't know Harry Gant once tried a full-on DRS system before Waltrip's half-DRS case XD

@tamezzodiac2862 Жыл бұрын

I know Larry and his guys also created a duct that would close in the front when the engine wasn't in a need for cooling and would automatically open and close to reduce drag on the Davey Allison machine. It never ran more then a test, but Larry said they could've used it but I'm pretty sure they were scared of it in many ways like if it gets stuck shut so they assumed it was too risky.

@Torsion Жыл бұрын

This channel is fantastic! Hope it blows up soon so you start getting credit for your hard work

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, that means a lot!

@tovko2000 Жыл бұрын

It did

@jxheim 9 ай бұрын

I've never watched a NASCAR race but I love watching these videos

@EWNOREVERSE Жыл бұрын

Got to hear this story directly from Andy and see the actual spoiler a few years back, wild to think of the engineering work and technology that went into it for the year.

@noUGames 11 ай бұрын

Named Mr. September...he won 4 of the 5 Cup races in September (finished 2nd on 9/29/91 at NWS) & won both Grand National races that month too

@RAD-RC Жыл бұрын

Funny this came out a day after Stapleton42 made a video about the DRS spoiler that WASNT caught and ran until this one was lol. That one was hydraulic however.

@johnjones928 Жыл бұрын

Gant and Co would save fuel by drafting off of lapped team mates, or so they would have you believe. The car actually had a few extra yards of 2" I.d. fuel line hidden under the regulation tank, the drafting pantomime was to hide the fact he had gallons more fuel in the car than the rest and was able the finish with one less stop.

@Jfunkey Жыл бұрын

That cheat is brilliant enough to convince someone that it was one of Smokey's. Absolutely genius on the team's part.

@moncorp1 Жыл бұрын

Means also had an operable air spoiler that there's a video of somewhere on yt. He actually still has and shows how they fed the air tube through the rear lid strut to get to the spoiler. He also shows how they rigged their carbs to get away with some stuff too. Still has all that stuff in his garage.

@rancherogt8037 Жыл бұрын

YT channel Stapelton42 did a video about Jimmy Means the other week and he shows them a spoiler he used with a hydraulic cylinder hid in the deck lid that pulled the spoiler down.

@vampiricdust7068 Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile: You got a guy wall boosting on the final lap like it's his Gamecube.

@thedrummingfitz742 Жыл бұрын

At that point in time there were a lot of teams tweaking and cheating up the decklids for the superspeedways. Actually they would build the whole rear of the car to hide the rear spoiler and let air cut over it at speed. But it would look normal and pass inspection while standing still.

@THROTTLEPOWER Жыл бұрын

Great vid, Harry Gant was one of my favorite drivers!! 33

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Harry's a true wheelman for sure!

@THROTTLEPOWER Жыл бұрын

@@themotorsportstory Exactly!

@modelsbyhand Жыл бұрын

I remember this win streak! I always wondered what they did, thanks for the explainer.

@CarsSimplified Жыл бұрын

Clever stuff! Your presentation of it was great, too!

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, appreciate you watching!

@initialdoge8528 Жыл бұрын

I miss back when nascar engineers were like Williams in Formula 1

@leftoverlegend6024 Жыл бұрын

I like the style you present things and you have a very nice and easy voice to listen to, rock on my guy.

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

That means a lot, thank you!

@revelare_xvii6269 Жыл бұрын

Imagine what the next gen cars could do with a full on DRS system.

@E180TEKNO Жыл бұрын

incredible i love all this anecgdote of past on the winston cup story i love ! thank you great vidéo !!!

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Appreciate that, thanks for watching!

@jok3yjesu339 Жыл бұрын

There was a racer back then, that used hydraulic slave clydiners to do this same thing but never got caught, it's on Stapletons youtube channel

@tangydiesel1886 Жыл бұрын

Sprint cars use "drs" on their wings. They flatten out at speed, and pop up when turning.

@EthanTowsley Жыл бұрын

Great videos!

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Thanks ;)

@daviddavid5880 Жыл бұрын

Ok, I think cheats should get stomped, but that crushable copper dome trick was seriously clever. Hat off.

@wizzard5442 Жыл бұрын

That copper washer trick was ingenious thinking.

@kg0173 Жыл бұрын

Aincent NASCAR did it way back and I thought it was the phenominal innovation of Fromula 1.

@robertrossman3703 Жыл бұрын

When NASCAR hired Gary Nelson, they eliminated half the cheating n the sport. There wasn’t anyone better at cheating than him.

@terrylessmann2274 Жыл бұрын

Hire a thief to catch a thief.

@cameronmorris3551 Жыл бұрын

I had an idea for NASCAR to use the DRS system on the tracks that they run and I had a list dedicated to this idea. For Superspeedways I feel this would be too dangerous so they don’t use it for Daytona, Talladega, and now Atlanta. However they’ll be able to use it everywhere else, with road course being three laps before being able to activate it, short tracks being 10 laps and 1.5-2 mile tracks being 5 laps. For short tracks you would have to be at least half a second behind the car in front to be able to use it and everywhere else you have to be within a full second. I personally would love to see this but I very highly doubt that’ll ever happen.

@jonlongwill232 Жыл бұрын

Good story minus one slight error-qualifying set the field for the Thursday Twin 125’s. The Busch Clash was an All Star race based mostly upon pole winners from the previous season.

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Thanks for clarifying! That was an honest error on my part.

@feelincrispy7053 Жыл бұрын

Being a husband 101 You never ever steal parts off your daily car, you always steal parts of your wife’s car. That way you look like a good husband when you pay for and fix the wife’s car after it somehow stopped working. Now that’s the true genius

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Haha, this guy gets it! Thanks for watching.

@HAWGGY85 Жыл бұрын

Never heard this story. Thanks!

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@gitchegumee Жыл бұрын

Creative engineering

@jwalster9412 Жыл бұрын

The only Nascar team that had more than just. A hammer.

@jamesbraun9842 Жыл бұрын

Ironically Gary Nelson was behind the bumper gate and the Greg Sacks R&D car.

@lestercombs1871 Жыл бұрын

Great story

@headbrown5629 Жыл бұрын

Good summary of Andy's side of the story

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Funny how stories like this do seem to change a little depending on who gets interviewed. Appreciate you watching!

@alskooper3319 Жыл бұрын

I’m skeptical about the trunk lid actuator having sufficient power to return the spoiler to a normal position with aero load on the trunk lid. Interesting story nonetheless.

@JJj-sb5pz Жыл бұрын

Awesome car

@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance Жыл бұрын

Suck on that, F1. Also, Harry Gant didn't just get the name Mr. September by winning all four NASCAR Cup Series races in September 1991; there were also two Busch Series (now Xfinity Series) races scheduled that month, and Gant would win both of them.

@nikl1604 Жыл бұрын

Stapleton 42's youtube channel talked to Jimmy means about this and Jimmy still has the spoiler

@JoeKyser Жыл бұрын

I heard the story on Dale's podcast

@robertfrancis6967 Жыл бұрын

Jimmy means did his with hydrochloric actuators he still has the trunk and showed it on Stapleton42 KZfaq the other day n he never got caught the other fella you mentioned at the beginning did

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Here's an archived newspaper article from 1992 that talks about Jimmy Means getting caught: greensboro.com/nascars-nelson-finds-teams-cheating/article_fe334adf-ed18-537e-8f19-a39fd4423e66.html I was surprised when I saw the Stapleton42 video that he said he never got caught. Not saying he's lying, he might've tried it a different year and not been found out. Thanks for watching!

@RLRSwanson Жыл бұрын

@@themotorsportstory Apparently there's at least two different spoiler things Jimmy Means did, the flexible one in your video that he got caught with and the hydraulic cylinder deal he still has and shows in Stapleton42 the video that he didn't get caught with. Jimmy goes over the story of how they did the flexible one in the new shop tour video Stapleton42 posted and pretty much how they also got caught. Anyhow, it's interesting how your video and the ones on Stapleton's channel flesh each other out.

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

@@RLRSwanson That makes sense! Thanks for the comment!

@RLRSwanson Жыл бұрын

@@themotorsportstory No problem. I realized that the spoiler that you mention isn't the one with the hydraulic actuation, when I got to the part of the shop tour video, where Jimmy and Mitchell are looking for the super thin aluminum brake calipers and Means tells the story where Jimmy Spencer had been caught first and how he had made the spoiler profile so that it had the correct angle only for the first three inches from the decklid. Then he describes how the spoiler sunk in an inch (I think that's what I heard) when Gary Nelson slammed his hand on the trunk lid.

@VashSpiegel 8 ай бұрын

Honestly, some of these cheats should make it onto mass production cars.

@balzonyr4head Жыл бұрын

Andy talks about it on the Dale Jr podcast, it was awesome

@justinbish3830 Жыл бұрын

Jimmy Means did something similar utilizing hydraulic pumps instead.

@NealB123 Жыл бұрын

Do a vid on David Pearson's lead helmet. That's a great story which Pearson fully admitted was true years after his retirement.

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the idea and for watching!

@MrJohnnyDistortion Жыл бұрын

What's the short story on that?

@NealB123 Жыл бұрын

@@MrJohnnyDistortion He always left his helmet on the passenger side floor during pre-race inspection and weigh-in and the NASCAR officials never complained. So they packed a helmet with lead weights and started leaving it in the car instead. They removed the helmet prior to the race and he ran a car that weighed at least 50lbs less than the competition.

@MrJohnnyDistortion Жыл бұрын

@@NealB123 But that lead helmet trick wouldn't have benefited them any unless weight was illegally shaved off somewhere else.

@NealB123 Жыл бұрын

@@MrJohnnyDistortion It was. They lightened the car by the same amount. That was the whole point so they could run an underweight car.

@mrj3217 Жыл бұрын

Nascar needs either a push to pass button or a DRS system to help the passing.

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Definitely would be interesting! Thanks for watching!

@connorbingel7134 Жыл бұрын

Sprint cars have been using a form of DRS for decades by the way

@irepairofpc31familykartrac51 Жыл бұрын

Oh, it was straight up cheating but man that was a great idea. Great job. 😊

@rustyshaklferd1897 Жыл бұрын

Again all new technology peer reviewed (let’s say) if the rule book doesn’t mention it then it’s legal. Fancar off the top of the head. Chapparell, lotus too if I recall and a thousand other ideas.

@trope5105 Жыл бұрын

cant remember the drag racer, larry millen maybe, i cant remember. but it was around the late 90's, and it was a night drag race, and it was the last run of the night for the top fuel funny cars, and half way down the track, larry dunn it might have been actually, anyways, one of the panels on his spoiler just collapsed, and he set the world record for spped in a funny car that night! i dont think they ever busted him for anything, but it seemed sketch, n still does to me.

@gregorygolden1296 Жыл бұрын

Smokey would be proud.

@virgilio6349 Жыл бұрын

It's the same funny NASCAR story. Nascar bans something, team finds loophole to give car advantage, nascar finds out and bans it, rinse and repeat till nascar bans wheels...

@greggv8 Жыл бұрын

Jimmy Means did a similar cheat and still has the special decklid. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJ5-qNGaqLzRmH0.html Another trick he explains was how they'd fill the inner liner of one tire with water before the weigh in then take advantage of the rule allowing changing of one tire before the start of the race to replace it with one filled with air. For one race they figured they'd be extra cheaty and filled both right side tires with water, counting on an early caution to pit and change the tires. No caution was happening until their driver clipped the wall, bringing out a caution. He did little damage to his car and with two tires full of water replaced he was able to win the race. I suspect that post-race weighing of the cars put an end to that trick.

@acehigh79 Жыл бұрын

And yet means wasn't ever competitive lol

@rebelscumspeedshop8677 Жыл бұрын

Let's be clear on this. There were other teams doing the same thing at the same time. They were just using a hydraulic system rather than an electrical system.

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Never said there weren't. This system was the most interesting to me and there was more info about it out there, so I thought it was deserving of its own video. Thanks for watching!

@MrRebelMan360 Жыл бұрын

NASCAR would be better if they allowed these kind of “cheats” to be legal

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

I can see both sides. Sometimes having rules can breed even more creativity when people search for loopholes. Thanks for watching!

@jxpd7898 Жыл бұрын

NASCAR, the only sport where technology only advances when teams cheat, probably.

@DominikKaskader Жыл бұрын

NASCAR was fun...

@rustyshaklferd1897 Жыл бұрын

I’m racing if you aren’t cheating you aren’t trying. That’s a sport, a game. Life has different rules

@moparman2nd Жыл бұрын

Insert Slapshoes 1992 references here

@Zantrop64 Жыл бұрын

motorsports : what's the most intelligent way to pull a dumb cheat

@guyh.4121 Жыл бұрын

Not Cheating but Over Engineering.

@LeftyLucyRightyTyty Жыл бұрын

Couple coments about "Cheating" ..."If you ain't cheatin', you ain't racin'"..."It ain't cheatin' if you don't get caught". "If the rule book doesn't say you can't do it, it's not cheatin'"....until next week when Nascar makes a new rule. I personally consider the term "cheating" to be a word used by the ignorant and uninformed..."Creative Improvisational Engineering" is more accurate. EVERY crewchief is responsible for making thier machine as fast as humanly possible. I worked for a crazy man in that regard. He INSISTED there be a few things technicaly wrong with the car to distract the officials from what was REALLY wrong. Also, even if the rule book says you can't do something you try your damdest to do it....there is the "Liberal Interpretation of the rule" discusions with the officials...that usually ended with the official saying " Don't bring it back next week".

@ShainAndrews Жыл бұрын

You used the word four times....

@DS-mo6md Жыл бұрын

someone who may actually appreciate my powered boss 302 spoiler on my van project.. it has a weather boot thats also black so it wont be so obvious and I didn't care about hiding it.. but this is for some stability when highway driving or driving fast as high tops dont like cross winds . I wish the action were a bit faster but its the only way to get a static load of like 250 lbs or so. I'm working on a screen and arduino as a custom gauge to show me the position lol kzfaq.info/get/bejne/es-Tl9OBmqjHpGQ.html&ab_channel=DS

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Awesome project! Having the screen sounds pretty neat once you get it figured out. Thanks for sharing!

@DS-mo6md Жыл бұрын

@@themotorsportstory thanks! yeah it's a little ridiculous but conversion vans are meant to be. Under the cb console on the ceiling Winnebago designed a motorized trap door that lowers a hidden radar detector.very James bond. but yeah the larry shinoda spoiler for boss 302 was rumored by bud Moore and shinoda to create 250 lbs of force at full attack.. obv that's trans am speed of over 100 mph but I'm sure at 70 mph will help take some yaw out and stabilize it a bit from the 8 foot height. And in the end a fun party trick .. but action could be quicker lol

@olekaarvaag9405 Жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJ5-qNGaqLzRmH0.html I just saw this video the other day, where Jimmy Means talks through some ways they cheated. He talks about the same kind of DRS system, but controlled with hydraulics. I don't know anything about Nascar, but I found the video interesting nonetheless.

@tedsmith6137 Жыл бұрын

I will correct your statement that the spoiler was an "electronic" system. Since it was just a driver operated switch, it is electric, not electronic.

@aftermarketmarket489 Жыл бұрын

If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying!

@acehigh79 Жыл бұрын

Only sports this applies to: racing and pro wrestling lol

@Lookin4LoveInAllTheWrongPlaces Жыл бұрын

Rule makers Rule breakers. Is what it is.

@Armi1P Жыл бұрын

Cheat every way possible, true american spirit

@lostwill86 Жыл бұрын

Wasn't just Harry's team

@ashtonpadilla5269 Жыл бұрын

Cheating is only possible when there are rules preventing innovation. Undue the rules, it's an equal playing field.

@Eduardo_Espinoza Жыл бұрын

Wish this banned tech can be used on actual stock cars, since what's the point?

@georgew.5639 Жыл бұрын

I don’t sanction cheating. But what’s missing from motor sports is innovation. It’s innovation along with other things that made nascar great. This is where the slogan, win on Sunday, sell on Monday came from. Now it’s all about the driver who is driving a cookie cutter identically designed car. Much like the IROC series which is no more. Go figure.

@N1lav Жыл бұрын

NASCAR has Dwonforce?? TIL

@sepg5084 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, for some reason the concept of DRS is too "modern" for stock car racing that it is banned 🤦 Now they have a generic car for all teams, making "Stock car" in the name a misnomer.

@watson9897 Жыл бұрын

I got Harry Gant's autograph 40 years ago. I thought it was the coolest thing. I've got no clue where that piece of paper is today and don't really care. Nascar is dead to me.

@D3Vlicious Жыл бұрын

Slight error, DRS in Formula 1 started in 2011, not 2001.

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Did you watch the video?

@MrJohnnyDistortion Жыл бұрын

It's not cheating if there isn't a rule against it.

@Formaldehydex Жыл бұрын

Don’t you think it is time to stop glorifying blatant cheating? NASCAR is a complete and total joke. It is no more a sport than pro wrestling is.

@howabouthetruth2157 Жыл бұрын

There were at least 3 nascar teams who used their own version of a powered adjustable rear spoiler. And that's just the ones that we know of, for now. Everyone was cheating in some ways or others. The simple fact of the matter was: if you weren't cheating somehow, you weren't winning races or finishing in the top 10.

@themotorsportstory Жыл бұрын

Right. People who pretend cheating wasn't happening in racing (especially NASCAR) are only kidding themselves. Thanks for watching!