good conclusion. Only the "just buy it" is missing

This is absolutely absurd!! I have no words for what an absolutely ripoff this PC is. Not to mention the garbage cooling for that price! So glad reviewers like this exist! Calling out these companies hopefully forces them to make changes for the better.

They manage to hit every prebuilt checkbox there is on the list.

I just wanna know if you replace that shi.t-tier intel CPU with 7800X3D thermals might be better overall. Why anyone would buy such a costly system and not go AMD...

@@Djuntas how can you increase your carbon footprint with an AMD CPU?

lol 100%. Maybe Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta 120mm radiator would have a chance. Anything else i doubt.

​@@bismuth7730 Yeah that things a beast, I have one mounted to my top rear exhaust fan mount in between my GPU and CPU waterblock and it works well way better than anticipated lol.

@@samvega827 you have a rad before the GPU and another rad before the CPU? Sounds very interesting!

@@bismuth7730 It make sense. If his exhaust is at the standard ATX place (alongside IO panel, at the back).

yea fr lol. what a joke when i seen that shizz

Yeah, I had to switch from mostly corsair, to none. And the worst thing is that people complain and then the corsair shills call you stupid, cause they apparently haven't seen any bugs.

paying more for worse amirite

@@Skelterbane69lol that's the exact reason i haven't updated iQUE in over 3 years.. only version that wasn't complete arse at the time and didn't have the insane cpu usage bug so i refuse to update it.

I'm determined to avoid Corsair, because they did something I really didn't gel with way back and now that they're everywhere, I see it as a some sort of a challenge. Granted, not a particularly difficult one, but a challenge nonetheless.

u cant name a better RGB and fan (not 3rd party) software :D

what a statement!! i mean the fan blows over it so it counts right? i mean people went nuts over "my vram is going 100+ despite gddr6x goes up to 110?, amd having 95 max temps but everyone going nuts and crazy over having 80 degree load temps? its almost like "specs" dont matter at all to the general consumer besides "it make my pc go brrrrr"

It will, because it's a 600w design running at 450w and much lower in games.

well.. the power connector will melt before vrms die so... well calculated by Corsair

@@mikeymaiku yet another reason, plus the $1,000 price increase that ive always gone 1 tier down from the highest end stuff

@@mikeymaiku They only mentioned longevity. Which is going to get you a further distance, sprinting until you are exhausted or walking until you are exhausted? Using equipment within specification range instead of at the edge of the specification is going to provide a better experience. Equipment starts throttling at higher temperatures, even before getting to the maximum specification. An example would be a cpu at 95c throttling pulling 330w at 4.9ghz, but the same one with different cooling and settings would run at 80c pulling 300w but at 5.1ghz. Also, the reported temperature is not always the actual temperature, its may be close but reporting is usually lower. The sensor is usually for one of the hottest components, not all of them individually. Sometimes they are next to the hot component, not inside it, and even if they are inside the hot component the sensor itself requires space that relocates the heat generation, potentially moving the hotspot entirely. More heat does not mean more better. The measurement in the video was over 86c for components that would easily be lower just by adding the cheapest heatsink with some thermal glue. This is a product that costs over $4700 with a prebuilt fee around $1600 that cannot even run at stock performance because of cost shaving choices. That is unacceptable to me.

Nah temps are in check . very far from the 12vhp cable issue.

just set hardware lighting for what you can and disable iCue at startup and/or use OpenRGB / Signal RGB for the rest

@@zombl337og All good until they remove saving to hardware for your specific device in a new version...

@@itIsI988 its a policy on STEAM, and their massive

Might as well be just an indicator for Corsair support to know if you've been inside the case should it ever come to an RMA. It doesn't explicitly say 'warranty void'.

Basically now it just means they're going to be arses and make you jump through every hoop

I am personally interested how then provide a way to show user did actually break the thing by opening and not just lie in OEM perspective without making users butthurted whiners like over the arranty void stickers over screws? I understand OEM is just so much easier say redline if you go deeper than this its warranty void.

@@XantheFIN Look at it the other way around. If the sticker is untouched it can be more or less ruled out by the OEM that it is physical user abuse thus speeding up handling of warranty cases. If sticker is broken it's not necessarily an issue, just an indication that the user has been 'in' there and will need further inspection which could otherwise have been skipped.

Too bad the world is not just us and eu

Right? It's like they looked at what the market will bare for pricing and took all their R&D time to figure out what corners they could cut instead of making it good.

They saw what Alienware/Dell were doing and excepted the challenge. I don't know what they were thinking.

​@@benjaminfrohnsthey were thinking about big profit margins

I don't mind worst case scenario testing methods

Intel gave them a better bulk deal.

​@@fajaradi1223 If the goal is to test what you get away with in a R&D-lab, sure. But they shipped it like this to Roman, even if it is just an early pre-release sample. At that moment you shouldn't push the electrical power beyond what it can handle and then you want to get the optimal performance with whatever electrical power budget it has. If you look at the review of Anandtech for the 14900k then you can see that the peak power for the 14900k is 428 Watt, for the peak power for the 7950 X3D is 147 Watt, the peak power for the 7800 X3D 82 Watt. Pick a targetgroup (gamers, productivity, mix) and pick one of those 2 Ryzen CPU's and you can cut 346 or 281 Watt. That will help a lot for both noise and the GPU while you basically don't sacrifice any performance if you pick the 7950 X3D. By the way, I think that Intel deserves some fierce criticism from the reviewers for clocking these CPU's too high, as did AMD when they launched their regular Zen4-CPU's. One more reason why the X3D-CPU's are more attractive, the balance between electrical power + noise and performance is much better. Let regular PC-users (gamers or productivity) use two systems without doing any benchmarking, one with the reasonable tuning and the other clocked too high and I dare to put 1 kg of gold on the far majority of them preferring the first system.

So they can charge more

@@IVEdge That could be but of course Corsair also looks at how easily they THINK that it sells and there is this issue that small (compared to the OEM's) PC-sellers like Corsair depend on companies which deliver certain components in bulk. I don't know in detail how this works in the desktop-market but in the laptop-market for years many companies (like for example MSI) had no other option than Intel+NVidia because the companies which they bought from refused to sell systems with AMD in it. I suspect that part of this is the economy of scale (lower price when you buy more) and part of it is the perceived reputation which AMD had.

Almost every choice they made is baffling. 21.7 liters is crossing the line into "MFF"

I think at this point it's only done to make those not informed, and to scare less informed people, into not servicing their products.

I fully anticipate seeing Northridge Fix working on these weird naked VRM models shortly.

Weird thing is there's plenty of people who won't bat an eye at paying such a premium for a pre-built PC.

Yeeeee hard pass 😂

$4600 sure let me just get my wallet 🤣

4600 usd to get scammed

Not a bad price for a mini supercomputer.

even the 240mm is a joke for a 260w+ cpu like cooling a 7lt v8 with a 200mm pc fan

Come on, it's Corsair we're talking about here : If it ain't got RGB in it, it will be cheaply built. If it have RGB in it, it will be less (but not hat much) cheaply built...for a premium.

They're already toasty.

Thats why you use non-glass panels. If you cant see it, it doesnt exist 💯

Hopefully it will break just after warranty expiration

Corsair corps looking at GPU blocks thinking "Can we just put a CPU AIO and be done with it? That big thingy is expensive and unnecessary" Well, when these cards start claiming warranty completely burned, they will learn.

I think it might work with white lights, but the unicorn barf looks pretty tacky. But either way it looks like the lights are the least of this system's problems lol.

could work with a warm orange tone similar to incandescent bulbs

I guess you can't tell the difference between real walnut and what I assume was glossy laminate. The unaligned grain on the left panel here is not great, admittedly.

@@concinnusputting wood on the front of cases is stupid. A computer is a tool, not a piece of nerd jewelry.

@@Akkbar21 I feel bad for you, that you can't see the value in making everyday objects more attractive. Should cars be ugly, since they're just for transportation or winning races? Go enjoy your Consulier GTP then ig.

@@concinnus Yes, because slapping in two pieces of mismatched wood on the front of a product with zero other tie-in reaaaally makes it prettier. They didn't bother to match the grain nor the shading. Man, soooooo pretty. Amazing. Meanwhile, my LS460 and my S550 has/had way more matching wood. And actually tied it into the design, rather than just slapping it in and pretending it made it luxury.

The 70s are coming back The eighties are next!

This is for niche people who love their casing to look like a mini antique wardrobe with RGB . So far, Apple has built MacPro with a trash can and cheese grater chassis, now Corsair wanna build a wardrobe case , next maybe we will see someone build a case that resembles a toilet bowl.

To some extent I'd give that a pass myself - if you are selling a computer to somebody that knows nothing about computers keeping it simple and biasing your prebuild to the side of relatively cranked up cooling at all times. I know from experience a system that was 'silent' most of the time but could end up sounding very loud if you ever stress it a bit causes panicked phone calls from the family, "What have I done wrong? Why has it suddenly got loud! It never did that before". So having it be a little more consistent might be a good idea.

That PC's fan curve was set to hit 100% at under 45°C. I don't think it'd be very pleasant listening to fans hit 2,400RPM

@@foldionepapyrus3441 You would hope someone spending 5000$ on a computer knows a little bit about this stuff... You would hope.

Then the bean counters said: "just gonna send it" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Especially when they use lower power targets

that MSI 760 motherboard has a clock generator. It was selected to not overclock the cpu, but turn it down.

Yes. stock radiator is only 27mm wide. Can go much wider.

even adding spacers between fans and radiators so the part under the fans motor gets cooled would improve cooling. On that top aluminum hunk I yanked out the steel mesh insert in it and was able to space up the fans.

The air cooler is 1,5 Celsius degree worse

@@federicocatelli8785 I saw the temp difference, but wanted to know if there was any noteable performance difference

won't fit. I tried.

@@Jumbo51515 rip