Renegade 45XL DBM. Freightliner Cascadia. Just went south Florida to the mountains in colorado 2300 miles. No tornados, but 50+MPH crosswinds for 100 miles in Oklahoma. Just steer into the wind and great tracking. Not glitzy like Newmar (traded 2024 London Aire for Renegade). But, the fit and finishes on the inside are extraordinary. Padded vinyl walls…no cheap wallpaper. Great heat, AC, floor heat-fast response. 7 1/2’ ceilings throughout. Firefly displays are way ahead of competition. Totally intuitive. It’s like driving a half ton SUV. Renegade XL is a beauty and a beast.

There’s just one and only one, RENEGADE hands 🙌🏽 down

I have a Newmar Super Star 4061and love it. Verona is you no comparison to my coach !

Showhauler all the way

Showhauler is the #1 in my book , but if I had a choice of chassis I’d pick the Volvo with a 16 valve ISX engine and transmission !

I like your ranking: 1) Mufasa - the Showhauler 2) Newmar Superstar 3) Renegade Verona When you made this video 2+ years ago, if you had compared the Renegade Ikon, the Newmar Supreme Aire, and Mufasa, I think the rankings by brand would have been the same.

Now that Renegade has discontinued the Ikon, it may be a good idea to check with Show hauler to see if they would build to the previous Ikon specs. It's a personal thing but the Ikon has it all, including a hefty price tag. Good isn't cheap and cheap isn't good.

Show Hauler Show Hauler Show Hauler all the way. Not anyone else can compare their Quality and workmanship PERIOD

I'll always go with the show hauler, one of these days hoping to get one. I use to like the 5th wheel, but I saw the show hauler and it is my absolute favorite!!!!

When build quality matters (when doesn't it), Show Hauler, all the way. 40,000# towing capacity - Holy Smokes!

If I had to rank it would be 3) Newmar Supreme Aire, 2) Renegade Ikon, and 1) is a tie between Showhauler and 1492 Coachworks. I like a Super C with tandems and a commercial chassis.

I'd love having a Renegade Explorer, bath and a half, fireplace and just at 40ft....sweet

1492 Coachworks hands down.

Newmar for us, we pick up our 4059 next week!!!

Showhauler by far is the best build quality!

My favorites are Ikon & Supreme aire

The Verona !!! Definitely !! Thanks guys.

You missed the Renegade Classic CMR 45. It is way better than all of them. Hands down. We are with 10 years experience with Airstream and 5th wheels, and we have 6000 miles with this rig. There is no comparison with even a Prevot.

I like the Renegade

Showhauler all day

Show hauler is the one to have

my dream motorhome is Renegade Ikon.

I'd add 1492 Coachworks, sister company to Outback Conversions. Custom/custom, choose your chassis, and quality components throughout. They are the only Super C using the same slides as Newell Coach, for instance.

I love the Renegade Verona and the New Mar I love the best but I love the Show Hauler too! It’s a tough decision. But I do think the New Mar is the best. I’m a New Mar fan! Thank you Izzy and MJ!

Show Hauler #1 in my book. Maybe in a couple of years, I can find and trade-in. LOL. That's the order in which I would list them too.

I like the Verona with out the slide. It's still over my budget. The set up looks great.. It's the first one you had viewed.

I have to agree about Showhauler is at the top of the list. Not really a Super “C” fan, so would I can not really judge. Now as for quality, NEWMAR by far, but there is a price difference. Keep up the good work, love your videos.

2 year wait on the showhauler is worth it. I'd take showhauler because that tank could survive just about any accident on the highway.

Hi there, we love your channel and insights into the RV world. We have a comment on your comments about the RVs built on the S2 RV chassis not being a "true" Super C because it isn't on a "True" Truck Chassis. We owned a 2015 Jayco Seneca, it was built around the Freightliner M2 Business Chassis, would this be considered a "True" Super C? We put 50k miles on it so we think we got to know the rig pretty well. We now own a Renegade Valencia which as you know is built around the Freightliner S2 RV Chassis. (according to you guys, not a true Super C) This chassis has a higher towing capacity, more horse power and a lot more torque than our old Seneca. Plus we get 100 gal of fuel versus the 75 gal on the M2 chassis, one side fuel fill which that in and of itself is worth the change, rear air breaks, and air ride. We probably could have bought a Verona but for the extra 70k, we didn't think we were getting much more other than towing capacity and if you do not need the added 20k towing why would you spend the 70k. And one of our biggest "turn offs" on the Verona was the M2 Chassis which the Verona was build on. Going back to dual fuel tanks was not an option . Anyway, we see quite a few other posts ragging on you guys about "True" Super Cs, we figured we would chime in. We love our Valencia and building these on the S2 chassis to us was a HUGE plus.

I agree with you, the Showhauler all the way....

Showhauler all the way then renegade ikon or classic and 1492 coachworks haven't seen the new tiffin yet watch out newmar

Great review guys. Those other 2 rigs are super nice. However, our Newmar Superstar 3746 is soooo beautiful! We wouldn't trade it for the world.

We have a Renegade Verona 34 VQB, discontinued model, but we wanted a short one. Don't need a washer or dryer or king bed.

Even though it’s not in my budget the Showhauler is #1. 👍👍👍👍to y’all

Renegade IKON

My favourite super c hasn’t been designed yet and, isn’t available (c’mon Newell 🤭), if I had to pick it would be Showhauler though. However, I would want to challenge them by asking for improvements that I don’t see in the market yet. So here’s a question for you two guys (maybe a subject for one of your future videos), what improvements would your viewers like to see that aren’t yet available in the market? For instance, a set of vertically stacked solar panels that cantilever out over the awnings. How many solar panels could you fit on a roof if you designed it this way rather than laying them down like a carpet whilst restricting access etc… And don’t even get me started on why all the equipment fitted on the roof penetrates it to fix it, actively encouraging water damage. 😖😳🧐. There are definitely better manufacturing designs and processes! 🤭😉👍🏻

IKON By far!!

ShowHauler, 4WD, no slides. Find me in semi-remote places in Canada and wonder how in the hell did he get there?

Favorite Renegade Explorer 40ERB

Renegade Ikon of course !

Have been enjoying your videos for a while now. I have a deposit on a 2023 MY Renegade Verona 36 VSB, so for our budget, preferences, and priorities it's our #1 choice. Can't argue with the Showhauler as your #1 but doubt you could buy one for under $600,000 once options added. After years of research, even in these times of inflated prices, for the best value I believe the Verona line is hands down a great choice for Super C buyers without an unlimited budget. IMO Newmar's newest entries don't merit #2 ahead of Renegade. Thinking it is a very niche market perhaps for Class A owners who have soured on their rig's drive quality? Lots of glitz and more up to date interior for sure, but lots of extra weight on the same Freightliner chassis and Cummins engine as the Veronas. Not a fan of that over the cab window which will let in lots of heat. Biggest concern is the full wall slide that could compromise the structural integrity of the rig with a hole that large. Maybe you can address this in a future video? Also don't think it is a good idea having plumbing on the slide side. A lot more $$$ mainly for fancy. BTW, am a bit confused about which way YOU are going. First it seemed Super C (the Explorer or Classic?), then back to the Class A for the space, and now maybe the Showhauler (because this KZfaq business is doing so great :) ?

I have to go renegade…

I would likely go with a Showhauler if looking for a Super C. I really considered one a few years back, but the one I like aren't made anymore. They were made by HaulMark RV but discontinued them a year or two ago.

1492 Coachworks gets my vote.

Showhauler All the way

ShowHauler!

Showhauler is a no brainer.

I like my Fake Super C, Renagade Valencia 38RB

As you already probably know from my millions of comments, Showhauler wins by a landslide!!! I agree with your top three, 100%!! If I ever hit the lottery the first thing I’m buying is a Showhauler!

SHOWHAULER ALL THE WAY

I need a bed 80 inches long. Explorer and verona are 75 inches. Leaning towards a Renegade Classic.

1492 Coach Works. Equal to Showhauler.

Favorite Renegade is the Verona LE 40LRB, love it. Like the Super Star too but way out of the budget. Show Hauler, no doubt the best, but way way out of the budget.

Totally agree, with those prices compared, it really is a no brainer. Your money is buying much more in a Show Hauler.

The Newmar and Verona LE are on the M2 chassis they’re under powered. I show hauler is the best but the Renegade icon is the best. My opinion only.

Again, you nailed it I would love any of the three. $$$ dictating what I get. But the show hauler is beautiful....

Why wasn't the Ikon in the list?

Verona VBR 2 baths!!… did like the bedroom mirrors in the Newmar 😅 since we pull race trailers the 40K pulling would be nice… for passing 18 wheelers in cruise control going up hill.

I just found your Channel and have been binge watching! Very nicely done. I like that you stay true to your mission and haven't gone the way of becoming a "advocates" for many causes that the other two largest RV channels have become. It's mostly advertisements on their merchandise they sell now. Very disappointed they went that way. I get enough junk mail in my mailbox for that. I want to know what kind of RV's are out there and your thoughts on them. You do a good job and both have fun personalities!

My #1 is 1492 they use all aluminum they don’t match fiberglass with metal also backup systems #2 showhauler #3 newmar

SAME order you had em in hands down. if your in it for the long term showhauler for the win lol

Showhauler has stuff king aire don't have... pretty awesome

I love showhauler...but you have to go check out 1492 Coachworks!

Hey guys, just a quick FYI - the Freightliner S2RV is a Class 7 chassis as the GVWR tops out at 33,000 lbs. You're right, Showhaulers are no joke!

#1 is 1492 coach works

None of those would be my favorite due to their prices! No way would we spend half a million or more in something that travels the roads with so many crazy drivers. Insane!!

Newmar supreme aire because of the rear door in the bathroom.

Nice review, Your top 3 falls inline with mine, I will say Newmar Supreme Aire and the Super Star still retain the OEM air ride cab, all the other super C builders will remove the cab air bags and put rubber blocks in place of the bags. That's very innovative and hard to accomplish and still keep the interior aesthetics.

I'm interested in the Renegade 34VQB.

1492 Coachworks is a step above Show Hauler. Much of the same mindset for construction, function and accessibility of systems for maintenance. Quite a few areas where they use higher end components and more heavy duty construction that pump the price up though.

Nice video, but I don’t think you are comparing like with like in your ranking. The Verona is Renegade’s “production model”, but they also do custom units like the Showhauler (although slightly less custom than they used to) so those would make a better comparison.

1492 coachworks my beat like but price is out of my range.

Show Hauler was my #1 UNTIL the new name in the game 1492 Coachworks. Just when you thought it couldn't get more "tank" like, wow!

The 2022 Tampa RV show was in January if I'm not mistaken.

Look them up

They all nice and yes to the black out wheels. Thanks for sharing👍👍

Renegade classic for us and ikon. Build quality and customization. We have a 2017 classic upgrading to a new 2023 classic dual axle which is in build to receive later this year. Show haulers are great as well . The pinnacle is the 1492 coach however out of our price range.

I agree with Wes Alexander, Show Hauler for sure. I will also say that there is a new company that you all need to look into, which is 1492 Coachworks. They make all of their Super C's custom. So you have the ability to build it the way YOU want. No floor plans at all since it is all custom from the ground up.

Nope nope nope lol, have ta disagree..... Newmar Supreme Air all the way!!!. Not even sure how you picked Super Star over it, or Show Hauler. But respect for your opinion 😊

Impressive talk!

1942 Coachworks

Dynamax Dynaquest XL

I was super interested in the Blue Bird Wanderlodges….until I started seeing these Super Cs. Care to comment and compare the 2? Thanks.

Would you install Liquid Springs on a SupetC ??

Will the upscale Class A RV parks allow a SuperC to camp at the park?

Showhauler

It seems like a true super c would have at least a 13 liter engine. What size is in those M2 106 chassis?

I’m looking at a 2022 Newmar Superstar 4059 with 6K miles on it. This would be my first RV, and would appreciate any feedback/advice.

Check out the 1492

These Super C’s aren’t really comparable. You should’ve compared a Renegade Classic/XL or Newmar Supreme Aire with the Showhauler.

Renegade IKON. Since they only build 12-14 per year, they must be twice as good!

Izzy or mj how would you compare your #1 showhauler 45 footer to a 1492 coachworks 45'? Maybe do a video on th top model 1492 for comparison

Out of Oklahoma City

I like the entire Renegade line. We currently have the Renegade Valencia on the S2 RV chassis. The S2RV chassis is a class 7 chassis with more than a 26000 lb GVW, so not sure why you keep saying it isn’t a true super c. I’ve had this discussion with you before on a previous video.

You are comparing apples to oranges. The Renegade and Newmar models you showed are on the lighter M2-106 chassis. The Showhauler is on the heavier Cascadia chassis. So no wonder it came out on top! Renegade makes at least three Super C models on the Cascadia chassis, the Explorer, the XL, and the Icon. Newmar probably does as well.

1942 or showhauler. It’s not even a question

Show Hauler is too bland for me . We are looking at the Verona Le. In my eyes the fit and finish is hard to beat.

The drivability of the showhauler sucks. If you like to make Austin Power turns this is the rig for you.

Thor now has Mega C segment…lol

Newmar Superstar is horribly over priced, it is not represented of a very good value IMHO