Renegade 45XL DBM. Freightliner Cascadia. Just went south Florida to the mountains in colorado 2300 miles. No tornados, but 50+MPH crosswinds for 100 miles in Oklahoma. Just steer into the wind and great tracking. Not glitzy like Newmar (traded 2024 London Aire for Renegade). But, the fit and finishes on the inside are extraordinary. Padded vinyl walls…no cheap wallpaper. Great heat, AC, floor heat-fast response. 7 1/2’ ceilings throughout. Firefly displays are way ahead of competition. Totally intuitive. It’s like driving a half ton SUV. Renegade XL is a beauty and a beast.
@JABECO20162 жыл бұрын
There’s just one and only one, RENEGADE hands 🙌🏽 down
@robertroney16903 ай бұрын
I have a Newmar Super Star 4061and love it. Verona is you no comparison to my coach !
@robertroney16903 ай бұрын
One very important item you didn’t mention. The Super Star has a air suspension cab as well as air ride seats.
@boomersD9CAT13 күн бұрын
@@robertroney1690I’m looking at a used 2022 Newmar Superstar 4059. 6K miles on it, and this would be my first RV. Would appreciate your feedback, and thoughts on this style of RV ?
@dannybarrington4659Ай бұрын
Showhauler all the way
@MsEnzoh26 күн бұрын
Showhauler is the #1 in my book , but if I had a choice of chassis I’d pick the Volvo with a 16 valve ISX engine and transmission !
@raoulroberts20242 ай бұрын
I like your ranking: 1) Mufasa - the Showhauler 2) Newmar Superstar 3) Renegade Verona When you made this video 2+ years ago, if you had compared the Renegade Ikon, the Newmar Supreme Aire, and Mufasa, I think the rankings by brand would have been the same.
@WilliamPainter-io9uoАй бұрын
Now that Renegade has discontinued the Ikon, it may be a good idea to check with Show hauler to see if they would build to the previous Ikon specs. It's a personal thing but the Ikon has it all, including a hefty price tag. Good isn't cheap and cheap isn't good.
@HEMIDAD2 жыл бұрын
Show Hauler Show Hauler Show Hauler all the way. Not anyone else can compare their Quality and workmanship PERIOD
@nepatswin6 ай бұрын
#1 is 1492 coach works
@Christopher-li6gg2 жыл бұрын
I'll always go with the show hauler, one of these days hoping to get one. I use to like the 5th wheel, but I saw the show hauler and it is my absolute favorite!!!!
@wesalexander26932 жыл бұрын
When build quality matters (when doesn't it), Show Hauler, all the way. 40,000# towing capacity - Holy Smokes!
@EndlessRVing2 жыл бұрын
Definitely!!
@johnjacobjingleheimerschmi72682 жыл бұрын
If I had to rank it would be 3) Newmar Supreme Aire, 2) Renegade Ikon, and 1) is a tie between Showhauler and 1492 Coachworks. I like a Super C with tandems and a commercial chassis.
@garytucker87392 жыл бұрын
I'd love having a Renegade Explorer, bath and a half, fireplace and just at 40ft....sweet
@rick1023632 жыл бұрын
1492 Coachworks hands down.
@petepeterson80512 жыл бұрын
Newmar for us, we pick up our 4059 next week!!!
@Eric-xp1kl Жыл бұрын
Showhauler by far is the best build quality!
@caniacstevehenderson71152 жыл бұрын
My favorites are Ikon & Supreme aire
@vincemiracle103 Жыл бұрын
The Verona !!! Definitely !! Thanks guys.
@michaeliversen7433Ай бұрын
You missed the Renegade Classic CMR 45. It is way better than all of them. Hands down. We are with 10 years experience with Airstream and 5th wheels, and we have 6000 miles with this rig. There is no comparison with even a Prevot.
@patrickarrigo62882 жыл бұрын
I like the Renegade
@dannybarrington46598 ай бұрын
Showhauler all day
@EndlessRVing8 ай бұрын
🙌
@marcogarcia90803 ай бұрын
Show hauler is the one to have
@EndlessRVing3 ай бұрын
👍
@glenninman79492 жыл бұрын
my dream motorhome is Renegade Ikon.
@1hasbeen5312 жыл бұрын
I'd add 1492 Coachworks, sister company to Outback Conversions. Custom/custom, choose your chassis, and quality components throughout. They are the only Super C using the same slides as Newell Coach, for instance.
@EndlessRVing2 жыл бұрын
Have heard of them but never seen one in person.
@sherriweber71052 жыл бұрын
I love the Renegade Verona and the New Mar I love the best but I love the Show Hauler too! It’s a tough decision. But I do think the New Mar is the best. I’m a New Mar fan! Thank you Izzy and MJ!
@aaronmay52782 жыл бұрын
Show Hauler #1 in my book. Maybe in a couple of years, I can find and trade-in. LOL. That's the order in which I would list them too.
@EndlessRVing2 жыл бұрын
🙌 Thanks Aaron!
@oliviagraceson63182 жыл бұрын
I like the Verona with out the slide. It's still over my budget. The set up looks great.. It's the first one you had viewed.
@williamlambert28652 жыл бұрын
I have to agree about Showhauler is at the top of the list. Not really a Super “C” fan, so would I can not really judge. Now as for quality, NEWMAR by far, but there is a price difference. Keep up the good work, love your videos.
@mike47692 жыл бұрын
2 year wait on the showhauler is worth it. I'd take showhauler because that tank could survive just about any accident on the highway.
@jessf58552 жыл бұрын
Hi there, we love your channel and insights into the RV world. We have a comment on your comments about the RVs built on the S2 RV chassis not being a "true" Super C because it isn't on a "True" Truck Chassis. We owned a 2015 Jayco Seneca, it was built around the Freightliner M2 Business Chassis, would this be considered a "True" Super C? We put 50k miles on it so we think we got to know the rig pretty well. We now own a Renegade Valencia which as you know is built around the Freightliner S2 RV Chassis. (according to you guys, not a true Super C) This chassis has a higher towing capacity, more horse power and a lot more torque than our old Seneca. Plus we get 100 gal of fuel versus the 75 gal on the M2 chassis, one side fuel fill which that in and of itself is worth the change, rear air breaks, and air ride. We probably could have bought a Verona but for the extra 70k, we didn't think we were getting much more other than towing capacity and if you do not need the added 20k towing why would you spend the 70k. And one of our biggest "turn offs" on the Verona was the M2 Chassis which the Verona was build on. Going back to dual fuel tanks was not an option . Anyway, we see quite a few other posts ragging on you guys about "True" Super Cs, we figured we would chime in. We love our Valencia and building these on the S2 chassis to us was a HUGE plus.
@johnstanczak50752 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, the Showhauler all the way....
@earlbrewer12002 жыл бұрын
Showhauler all the way then renegade ikon or classic and 1492 coachworks haven't seen the new tiffin yet watch out newmar
@EndlessRVing2 жыл бұрын
🙌
@nialcastle3826 Жыл бұрын
Great review guys. Those other 2 rigs are super nice. However, our Newmar Superstar 3746 is soooo beautiful! We wouldn't trade it for the world.
@jeffphillips74002 жыл бұрын
We have a Renegade Verona 34 VQB, discontinued model, but we wanted a short one. Don't need a washer or dryer or king bed.
@jameskennedy6732 жыл бұрын
Even though it’s not in my budget the Showhauler is #1. 👍👍👍👍to y’all
@troybramblet15962 жыл бұрын
Renegade IKON
@richt.49002 жыл бұрын
My favourite super c hasn’t been designed yet and, isn’t available (c’mon Newell 🤭), if I had to pick it would be Showhauler though. However, I would want to challenge them by asking for improvements that I don’t see in the market yet. So here’s a question for you two guys (maybe a subject for one of your future videos), what improvements would your viewers like to see that aren’t yet available in the market? For instance, a set of vertically stacked solar panels that cantilever out over the awnings. How many solar panels could you fit on a roof if you designed it this way rather than laying them down like a carpet whilst restricting access etc… And don’t even get me started on why all the equipment fitted on the roof penetrates it to fix it, actively encouraging water damage. 😖😳🧐. There are definitely better manufacturing designs and processes! 🤭😉👍🏻
@scottcameron10122 жыл бұрын
IKON By far!!
@DempsterDave Жыл бұрын
ShowHauler, 4WD, no slides. Find me in semi-remote places in Canada and wonder how in the hell did he get there?
@glengreenwood54243 ай бұрын
Favorite Renegade Explorer 40ERB
@DJL625 Жыл бұрын
Renegade Ikon of course !
@michaelliner19052 жыл бұрын
Have been enjoying your videos for a while now. I have a deposit on a 2023 MY Renegade Verona 36 VSB, so for our budget, preferences, and priorities it's our #1 choice. Can't argue with the Showhauler as your #1 but doubt you could buy one for under $600,000 once options added. After years of research, even in these times of inflated prices, for the best value I believe the Verona line is hands down a great choice for Super C buyers without an unlimited budget. IMO Newmar's newest entries don't merit #2 ahead of Renegade. Thinking it is a very niche market perhaps for Class A owners who have soured on their rig's drive quality? Lots of glitz and more up to date interior for sure, but lots of extra weight on the same Freightliner chassis and Cummins engine as the Veronas. Not a fan of that over the cab window which will let in lots of heat. Biggest concern is the full wall slide that could compromise the structural integrity of the rig with a hole that large. Maybe you can address this in a future video? Also don't think it is a good idea having plumbing on the slide side. A lot more $$$ mainly for fancy. BTW, am a bit confused about which way YOU are going. First it seemed Super C (the Explorer or Classic?), then back to the Class A for the space, and now maybe the Showhauler (because this KZfaq business is doing so great :) ?
@historicworldchallenge2 жыл бұрын
I have to go renegade…
@historicworldchallenge2 жыл бұрын
Love my Jersey peeps
@roydavis22422 жыл бұрын
I would likely go with a Showhauler if looking for a Super C. I really considered one a few years back, but the one I like aren't made anymore. They were made by HaulMark RV but discontinued them a year or two ago.
@jamesscaggs3969 Жыл бұрын
1492 Coachworks gets my vote.
@dannybarrington4659 Жыл бұрын
Showhauler All the way
@jims3672 жыл бұрын
ShowHauler!
@jeffreycarter30662 жыл бұрын
Showhauler is a no brainer.
@CraftingN112DR2 жыл бұрын
I like my Fake Super C, Renagade Valencia 38RB
@loriw26612 жыл бұрын
As you already probably know from my millions of comments, Showhauler wins by a landslide!!! I agree with your top three, 100%!! If I ever hit the lottery the first thing I’m buying is a Showhauler!
@dannybarrington46592 жыл бұрын
SHOWHAULER ALL THE WAY
@peterhowson5872 жыл бұрын
I need a bed 80 inches long. Explorer and verona are 75 inches. Leaning towards a Renegade Classic.
@ronaldbrown4746 Жыл бұрын
1492 Coach Works. Equal to Showhauler.
@Tom.and.Missy.Northam2 жыл бұрын
Favorite Renegade is the Verona LE 40LRB, love it. Like the Super Star too but way out of the budget. Show Hauler, no doubt the best, but way way out of the budget.
@spencerduncan2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, with those prices compared, it really is a no brainer. Your money is buying much more in a Show Hauler.
@denniscaling17962 жыл бұрын
The Newmar and Verona LE are on the M2 chassis they’re under powered. I show hauler is the best but the Renegade icon is the best. My opinion only.
@rayjansen6712 Жыл бұрын
Again, you nailed it I would love any of the three. $$$ dictating what I get. But the show hauler is beautiful....
@jasonrobertson54792 жыл бұрын
Why wasn't the Ikon in the list?
@mikewebb31888 ай бұрын
Verona VBR 2 baths!!… did like the bedroom mirrors in the Newmar 😅 since we pull race trailers the 40K pulling would be nice… for passing 18 wheelers in cruise control going up hill.
@bradlangley78152 жыл бұрын
I just found your Channel and have been binge watching! Very nicely done. I like that you stay true to your mission and haven't gone the way of becoming a "advocates" for many causes that the other two largest RV channels have become. It's mostly advertisements on their merchandise they sell now. Very disappointed they went that way. I get enough junk mail in my mailbox for that. I want to know what kind of RV's are out there and your thoughts on them. You do a good job and both have fun personalities!
@EndlessRVing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Happy you’re here. 😁
@michaelkatzenbach9478 Жыл бұрын
My #1 is 1492 they use all aluminum they don’t match fiberglass with metal also backup systems #2 showhauler #3 newmar
@michaelrajca60432 жыл бұрын
SAME order you had em in hands down. if your in it for the long term showhauler for the win lol
@pauldonathan53164 ай бұрын
Showhauler has stuff king aire don't have... pretty awesome
@ericraleigh73632 жыл бұрын
I love showhauler...but you have to go check out 1492 Coachworks!
@brianz96342 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, just a quick FYI - the Freightliner S2RV is a Class 7 chassis as the GVWR tops out at 33,000 lbs. You're right, Showhaulers are no joke!
@nepatswin6 ай бұрын
#1 is 1492 coach works
@juliebolduc8022 жыл бұрын
None of those would be my favorite due to their prices! No way would we spend half a million or more in something that travels the roads with so many crazy drivers. Insane!!
@markbivens2776 ай бұрын
Newmar supreme aire because of the rear door in the bathroom.
@thecasualrver2 жыл бұрын
Nice review, Your top 3 falls inline with mine, I will say Newmar Supreme Aire and the Super Star still retain the OEM air ride cab, all the other super C builders will remove the cab air bags and put rubber blocks in place of the bags. That's very innovative and hard to accomplish and still keep the interior aesthetics.
@Jimmy_Jim_Jim_12342 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in the Renegade 34VQB.
@unishow2 жыл бұрын
1492 Coachworks is a step above Show Hauler. Much of the same mindset for construction, function and accessibility of systems for maintenance. Quite a few areas where they use higher end components and more heavy duty construction that pump the price up though.
@davidhannan20232 жыл бұрын
I’m looking at 1492 also now, and now they have the same slides as Newell!! They are also all aluminum like Newell. 1492 CoachWorks is a Newell in a “true” Super C!
@EndlessRVing2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see them at a show.
@rvcruising2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but I don’t think you are comparing like with like in your ranking. The Verona is Renegade’s “production model”, but they also do custom units like the Showhauler (although slightly less custom than they used to) so those would make a better comparison.
@user-zw1nf8ur9x10 ай бұрын
1492 coachworks my beat like but price is out of my range.
@thyhangman2 жыл бұрын
Show Hauler was my #1 UNTIL the new name in the game 1492 Coachworks. Just when you thought it couldn't get more "tank" like, wow!
@kdub16662 жыл бұрын
The 2022 Tampa RV show was in January if I'm not mistaken.
@johnbarton2276 Жыл бұрын
Look them up
@tedlov062 жыл бұрын
They all nice and yes to the black out wheels. Thanks for sharing👍👍
@dwaineomyer55562 жыл бұрын
Renegade classic for us and ikon. Build quality and customization. We have a 2017 classic upgrading to a new 2023 classic dual axle which is in build to receive later this year. Show haulers are great as well . The pinnacle is the 1492 coach however out of our price range.
@johnhickey82072 жыл бұрын
I agree with Wes Alexander, Show Hauler for sure. I will also say that there is a new company that you all need to look into, which is 1492 Coachworks. They make all of their Super C's custom. So you have the ability to build it the way YOU want. No floor plans at all since it is all custom from the ground up.
@EndlessRVing2 жыл бұрын
We are hoping to see 1492 at a show. We have heard they are excellent coaches
@johnhickey82072 жыл бұрын
@@EndlessRVing Maybe try contacting them about a tour f their show coach and factory tour. They have a youtube channel that you can look at as well. Keep up the great content. Love your videos.
@EndlessRVing2 жыл бұрын
@@johnhickey8207 they are located in Oklahoma. That is a long way from NJ lol
@shawnkurtti39028 ай бұрын
Nope nope nope lol, have ta disagree..... Newmar Supreme Air all the way!!!. Not even sure how you picked Super Star over it, or Show Hauler. But respect for your opinion 😊
@EndlessRVing8 ай бұрын
Show Hauler is the top dog. Well, along with 1492 CoachWorks. 👍
@davidoverholt2512 жыл бұрын
Impressive talk!
@johnbarton2276 Жыл бұрын
1942 Coachworks
@johnbarton2276 Жыл бұрын
1492 ciachworks
@waprapa2 жыл бұрын
Dynamax Dynaquest XL
@SammifromMiami2 жыл бұрын
I was super interested in the Blue Bird Wanderlodges….until I started seeing these Super Cs. Care to comment and compare the 2? Thanks.
@EndlessRVing2 жыл бұрын
Blue birds are great but if you need parts you can have issues.
@nobrand7957 Жыл бұрын
Would you install Liquid Springs on a SupetC ??
@EndlessRVing Жыл бұрын
On the front yes it can be done
@nobrand7957 Жыл бұрын
Will the upscale Class A RV parks allow a SuperC to camp at the park?
@EndlessRVing Жыл бұрын
If they are class A only no they would not
@jmprues2 жыл бұрын
Showhauler
@707SonomaComa10 ай бұрын
It seems like a true super c would have at least a 13 liter engine. What size is in those M2 106 chassis?
@EndlessRVing10 ай бұрын
On the Verona 8.9 liter
@boomersD9CAT13 күн бұрын
I’m looking at a 2022 Newmar Superstar 4059 with 6K miles on it. This would be my first RV, and would appreciate any feedback/advice.
@EndlessRVing12 күн бұрын
We offer consultations you can reach out to us via email or our website
@boomersD9CAT12 күн бұрын
@@EndlessRVing Thank you very much ! I’m going to contact the seller today, and try to set up a time to look at the RV. If it looks like I can make a deal with the sellers, I will email you guys, and have the agreement subject to inspection.
@anthonyharmon62112 жыл бұрын
Check out the 1492
@jlwrycha10897 ай бұрын
These Super C’s aren’t really comparable. You should’ve compared a Renegade Classic/XL or Newmar Supreme Aire with the Showhauler.
@billjordan3639 Жыл бұрын
Renegade IKON. Since they only build 12-14 per year, they must be twice as good!
@superiortrans-1697 Жыл бұрын
Izzy or mj how would you compare your #1 showhauler 45 footer to a 1492 coachworks 45'? Maybe do a video on th top model 1492 for comparison
@EndlessRVing Жыл бұрын
We have not seen 1492 coachworks in person as they do not attend shows. We have read they make a quality unit.
@superiortrans-1697 Жыл бұрын
@@EndlessRVing Thank you.
@anthonyharmon62112 жыл бұрын
Out of Oklahoma City
@GrampsArcade2 жыл бұрын
I like the entire Renegade line. We currently have the Renegade Valencia on the S2 RV chassis. The S2RV chassis is a class 7 chassis with more than a 26000 lb GVW, so not sure why you keep saying it isn’t a true super c. I’ve had this discussion with you before on a previous video.
@ski3435 Жыл бұрын
You are comparing apples to oranges. The Renegade and Newmar models you showed are on the lighter M2-106 chassis. The Showhauler is on the heavier Cascadia chassis. So no wonder it came out on top! Renegade makes at least three Super C models on the Cascadia chassis, the Explorer, the XL, and the Icon. Newmar probably does as well.
@EndlessRVing Жыл бұрын
Newmar is only on M2 and we were comparing super C’s that were at the show :)
@PRESA25 Жыл бұрын
1942 or showhauler. It’s not even a question
@adriangleprin6949 Жыл бұрын
Show Hauler is too bland for me . We are looking at the Verona Le. In my eyes the fit and finish is hard to beat.
@EndlessRVing Жыл бұрын
Look beyond the shiny cabinets and floor at the build behind what you don’t see. Showhauler is at the top.
@glennlacewell5766 Жыл бұрын
The drivability of the showhauler sucks. If you like to make Austin Power turns this is the rig for you.
@EndlessRVing Жыл бұрын
The build quality does not 😉
@jarredholt50372 жыл бұрын
Thor now has Mega C segment…lol
@patriot8087 Жыл бұрын
Newmar Superstar is horribly over priced, it is not represented of a very good value IMHO